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Title: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:08:48 pm
This game does have decent amount of population, but now i see why that it only stays at this lvl of pop.  I just got ban from all servers for tking a teammate cuz he started to wack me and killed my horse lol from NA servers...I probbaly think it was an admin abusing his powers but idk (i hit the guy once and he died).  Just started playing this game and now i am being turned away from it.  Now i gotta play on laggy servers but not that bad on EUs around 120-140 ping.  But now I cant play with my friends so GG bad admins if anyone does have the power to unban.  Unban Ahrims please... Kinda gay that I get wack around then kill that player to make him stop and I get perma ban from the NA servers...just saying probably happens a lot more than what some people think.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 14, 2012, 11:10:13 pm
Post here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/board,63.0.html

Likely it was a temporary ban that will wear off shortly.

In the future, do not revenge TK, use the "i" chat to report or take screenshots. Read this entirely: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2606.0.html
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Miwiw on May 14, 2012, 11:12:27 pm
The Admins aren't even strict...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:18:27 pm
Yea I know right? Banned a new player who got one tk = perma banned
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 14, 2012, 11:20:01 pm
Yea I know right? Banned a new player who got one tk = perma banned

Did the message actually say Permanently banned? Usually it is a temporary ban, the only time you will see "permanent" is on non-official NA servers (since they don't have the advanced ban controls.)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Rhalzo on May 14, 2012, 11:20:46 pm
Yea I know right? Banned a new player who got one tk = perma banned

Intentional TKs =/= Accidental TKs, just saying.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:22:50 pm
Idk but i am just guessing, didn't see the message anyone.  When i try go into server just kicks me as soon as i go in and says Banned from this etc.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 14, 2012, 11:33:59 pm
sorry if I'm wrong but this stinks, at least your thread title and reason for post is ridiculous. Just try to play friendly, calm down if something goes awry and speak with people and you should have no problems.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: MrShine on May 14, 2012, 11:34:21 pm
Idk but i am just guessing, didn't see the message anyone.  When i try go into server just kicks me as soon as i go in and says Banned from this etc.

Tears linked you to the area where bans/unbans happen etc.

If it was your first offense on a official server I'm sure the ban was temporary and you'll be back playing tomorrow if you'd so choose.

In the meantime read the rules and you'll learn that intentional team kills and wounds are never permitted.  Admins aren't all-seeing, it's very possible they heard someone attacking someone else only to turn around and see you kill them. 

If you are being attacked by someone report them with 'i' chat, which sends a private message to admins on the server.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:37:36 pm
Yes, because I do have tears =(, I am just warning, because if there was other NEW people who were trying this out and than just get ban within one day of playing. They would just throw this game out probably lol.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:43:36 pm
This is also my pvp vid i made within 5 mins (yes i am the rabbit)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:45:19 pm
This is it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 14, 2012, 11:50:13 pm
Go and whine elsewhere,you broke a rule,you got banned

Simple enough.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 14, 2012, 11:55:24 pm
I am playing another game lol =) GET GLAD
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Grumbs on May 15, 2012, 12:03:02 am
Yea I know right? Banned a new player who got one tk = perma banned

Admins are very lenient here for repeat offenders, but they do come down hard on intentional TK's, no matter who "starts" it. Reason for this is it takes out the drama side of it and makes it a simple TK or team wound = temp ban, no one cares who hit who first or whatever
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 12:05:03 am
-Dude Gets banned for being a douchebag/breaking rules

-Makes topic on forum where he says he's innocent, or brings in drama like "this game has low pop because.."

-Blames admins

-Makes up stupid excuses

-Is NA

Seems legit.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lord_Panos on May 15, 2012, 12:37:06 am
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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 12:46:42 am
-Dude Gets banned for being a douchebag/breaking rules

-Makes topic on forum where he says he's innocent, or brings in drama like "this game has low pop because.."

-Blames admins

-Makes up stupid excuses

-Is NA

Seems legit.

Don't think I was douche bag unless u were the one hitting me lol
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 12:51:36 am
Carebears don't get mad
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Joker86 on May 15, 2012, 12:54:56 am
Don't think I was douche bag unless u were the one hitting me lol

Well. The admin couldn't know you were a new player. We have players who retire regularly (reset their character), have alternative characters and so on, so a low level doesn't tell you anything.

You defended yourself by teamattacking him, which is forbidden for a good reason, because it allows admins to see who is the aggressor. If you teamattack back and he watches you in that moment, it's your own fault. Do you know the expression "Ignorance is no excuse in law."? That's what happened to you.

Just get over it, it's most likely a short time ban. Play the game tomorrow, stick to the rules and have fun. There is nothing more to say.

Carebears don't get mad

You do want carebears, otherwise you wouldn't mind posting. And some of us do care that new players keep on playing the mod. But what we can NOT do is tell you that the ban was unjustified and wrong, and that you were right to kill him, because that's not true. Rules are rules.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 12:58:31 am
I think people who are just posting random stuff should reread thread and look at what I am saying (reading first sentence or Title of thread doesn't count)... It has little to do about me. I am just saying my case and what a lot of players experience.  BTW some fail trolls i see ererere.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 12:59:32 am
I think people who are just posting random stuff should reread thread and look at what I am saying (reading first sentence or Title of thread doesn't count)... It has little to do about me. I am just saying my case and what a lot of players experience.  BTW some fail trolls i see ererere.

Joker86 is spot-on. It is impossible for Admins to tell who started it if they come back at the wrong time, as it would look like you are the aggressor.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Joker86 on May 15, 2012, 01:02:53 am
I think people who are just posting random stuff should reread thread and look at what I am saying (reading first sentence or Title of thread doesn't count)... It has little to do about me. I am just saying my case and what a lot of players experience.

Well, actually even there you can't really argue about it, because new players are supposed to read the rules before they connect to a server. I know people want to start the game finally after downloading and everything, but the minute or two is worth the effort. When I start a new shooter I like to know whether it's allowed to shoot into the spawn, whether there are forbidden weapons and so on, because I know such things can easily lead to a kick/ban, and are fairly common. So actually, in before counterargument: yes, you CAN expect new players to read rules first.

BTW some fail trolls i see ererere.

Welcome to cRPG forum. A place with shitloads of good humour and trolling.... not...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:04:03 am
Joker86 is spot-on. It is impossible for Admins to tell who started it if they come back at the wrong time, as it would look like you are the aggressor.

little spot on. agreeing with carebears is what kills most of the games like CoD - now look at it, counterstrike - Age of Conan-MMos etc etc good debate
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 01:04:54 am
"I broke the rules that are identical to most vanilla M&B multiplayer servers and almost every game on the internet. I killed my teamate and go in trouble. Your game is gay and no one likes it. Here's a youtube video of me owning lol."

-a mental child
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Rusty_Shacklefjord on May 15, 2012, 01:05:15 am
The admins on cRPG are tyrants, more or less.

I've talked to multiple people that were turned away from this mod for the exact same reason as the OP. They join, play a few games, then are banned with no explanation, never to return.

It's something about the community's culture, I guess, that makes people think that it's okay to mete out harsh bans for extremely minor offenses. Only the popular kids get to be admin, and the popular kids all know the rules. So, they expect everyone to be act just like they do, and if you're just a little uncouth or unpopular you're mercilessly banned.

Meanwhile these badmins, worse for the community than any incidental teamkiller could ever be, are allowed (and even encouraged!) to continue acting in this way. It's ridiculous.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:06:29 am
little spot on. agreeing with carebears is what kills most of the games like CoD - now look at it, counterstrike - Age of Conan-MMos etc etc good debate

Age of Conan were probably funniest/best trolls forums I ever seen in a game
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Nagasoup on May 15, 2012, 01:09:05 am
This is something I can relate to... once I was banned for revenge tk as a newb too, when someone was intentionally teamwounding me to provoke revenge tk...

New players without any previous offences should NEVER be banned for revenge tk, a lot of times these are people tking in self defence against trolls, and banning for revenge tk is EXACTLY what those trolls want.

What is a new player to do against assholes who use technicalities in the rules to try and get you banned?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:10:02 am
Would now be a bad time to mention that the vast majority of c-RPG players have never been banned?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:14:16 am
Would now be a bad time to mention that the vast majority of c-RPG players have never been banned?

I bet you most of the player base was lost to being banned. lol Unlike the ones who just gave up, I am just posting my view and it is upsetting some people cause they are the ones who probably played this for awhile like the kids who play counterstrike 1.6 for 10 years.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:16:31 am
I bet you most of the player base was lost to being banned. lol Unlike the ones who just gave up, I am just posting my view and it is upsetting some people cause they are the ones who probably played this for awhile like the kids who play counterstrike 1.6 for 10 years.

I think you are mistaking "upsetting" with "not giving a shit." There is no way for an admin to tell who has a new character on the spot, it takes time to dig through the database. Accept your 24 hour ban, give it time, read the rules and understand them.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:18:56 am
I think you are mistaking "upsetting" with "not giving a shit." There is no way for an admin to tell who has a new character on the spot, it takes time to dig through the database. Accept your 24 hour ban, give it time, read the rules and understand them.

I am just saying my view lol =) you don't sound like your upset.  I am saying the other posts some of them are lol.  If someone didn't give a "shit."  They wouldn't even read this post lol =)//\\  If it is 24 hour I would already be unban but i am not ererere
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:20:16 am
I bet you most of the player base was lost to being banned.

 :lol: Seriously?

About those people I'd say: Good Riddance.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:21:02 am
If it is 24 hour I would already be unban but i am not

Ban Date    14.05.2012 05:26:46
                                                                   Scheduled Unban    15.05.2012 05:26:46 -----> so its a 1 day ban.


It is a 24 hour ban.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Jarlek on May 15, 2012, 01:21:52 am
So new people who teamkill and gets banned gives up cRPG? Ok.
I want to have as many new players as possible, but I'll gladly pass up those who teamkills.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:24:18 am
:lol: Seriously?

For those people I'd say: Good Riddance.

Than I say, Good Job banning probably your best pvp players,  Only reason why I tried this game cuz friend told me about it but he got ban haha.  same with most of his group Sonny.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Joker86 on May 15, 2012, 01:24:42 am
I bet you most of the player base was lost to being banned.

Now what is your solution to this?

Admins always checking how old a character is before kicking/banning someone, and if the player is new, they are supposed to say "Oh, well, he is new, he can't be expected to read the rules, so I will just pretend that I didn't see how he broke the rules?"

Sorry, if there are new players who log on, break the rules and then GTX, I say it's not loss for our community.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:26:22 am
Than I say, Good Job banning probably your best pvp players

Aha, so in your opinion being a good "pvp" player should bring you above every rule?

Nice.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:28:53 am
Bring you above every rule? lolol And looking? You can kinda tell who is new or who isn't and if someone is spamming tking then its like yea banned him.  But one tk whole time playing.  And if you read the rules before you first played a match.  Then please tell me haha =) I play games for fun.  I was just trying this one out.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:30:16 am
Well, Ideally it would be a warning and a kick first, and then a ban if the name seems familiar for a singular TK. Different admins do have different ideas on that though. I can see some of your point.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:31:07 am
You can kinda tell who is new or who isn't

Well. The admin couldn't know you were a new player. We have players who retire regularly (reset their character), have alternative characters and so on, so a low level doesn't tell you anything.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:33:22 am


Yea lets just banned a guy the first time he tks, no warning, not a kick.  Just give him a banned.  Seems to make sense =).
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:34:09 am
Yea lets just banned a guy the first time he tks, no warning, not a kick.  Just give him a banned.  Seems to make sense =).

Okay, quote please where I said ANYTHING about that.

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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:37:18 am
"Well. The admin couldn't know you were a new player. We have players who retire regularly (reset their character), have alternative characters and so on, so a low level doesn't tell you anything. "

What i meant to quote, Now defend your answer what ever you were talking about?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:38:36 am
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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:38:54 am
I ban is good idea if you get one TK.  Now lets take look at the cRPG pop.  O snap
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:39:52 am
Now lets take look at the cRPG pop.  O snap

Servers full at primetime, your point being?

I swear you live in some fantasy dream land or something.  :lol:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:40:09 am
If you're just trollin than your pretty bad at it, if not than you're a CoD player?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:40:27 am
http://www.c-rpg.net/statistics.php
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:42:19 am
full at prime time? So far maybe 120 out of 200. Yea that's cool but that's only on two servers than rest are like 10-50 maybe.  Get out of your fantasy.  So upset that I am making fun of your main game.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:43:20 am
http://www.c-rpg.net/statistics.php
Tracks:
Player signup since latest reset (13. 7. )
Unique Serials Active per Hour (Average)
Unique Serials Active per Day


The NA division of c-RPG is pretty small to be honest compared to the EU division.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:45:13 am
Stats look pretty good out of 500 players on avg 200 per day.  That seems like A lot of players. Also most game companies lie about their player base./ even websites to look better. Example of some people who do that.  IGN, AoC, CoD, WoW, Counterstrike etc
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:46:06 am
If you're just trollin than your pretty bad at it, if not than you're a CoD player?

No, I am trying to find sense in what you write, it's a damn hard job dude.

Also, CoD player lol, how is that even relevant to the discussion?
If that was an insult, try harder. lol

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full at prime time? So far maybe 120 out of 200. Yea that's cool but that's only on two servers than rest are like 10-50 maybe.  Get out of your fantasy.  So upset that I am making fun of your main game.

Just how many players do you want? The servers always have people on them, just because "hurr durr it's only 2 servers full", it's more than enough.
Ah, did I miss the "making fun" part? You should get out of your fantasies man.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:47:20 am
Stats look pretty good out of 500 players on avg 200 per day.  That seems like A lot of players. Also most game companies lie about their player base./ even websites to look better. Example of some people who do that.  IGN, AoC, CoD, WoW, Counterstrike etc

Where are you seeing 200 a day?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 01:49:39 am
Your permanent 24 hour ban has clearly lost us a professional PVPer. I'm sure everyone will lament the loss of such a skilled and friendly player.

Just kidding, you are picking fights with anyone who posts in this thread, even people that side with you. You talk down to everyone that responds to you.

You're either trolling (and won't admit it) or just a mental child like I posted a few pages ago. Keep it up, pull our strings puppet master! Make us dance!

edit: you said you are done playing this shitty game that has no players. good news for both parties then, eh?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:52:24 am
This exact second there are a total of 297 active players on all c-RPG servers. This is not prime time for either NA nor EU. I think that is a pretty healthy number, and over the course of the day you can easily make up the numbers the statistics site tracks.

Back when the Independent NA Community tracker was up, it cataloged an unbelievable amount of players and unique CD Keys for just the community servers alone, and chadz and the crew had zero control over it.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:55:25 am
There is avg of at least in the 200s per day dude,  Also to the guy who is failing trying to troll me, wipe your ass of that stench.  Get at me brah because I am qqing so hard.  I am trolling a little but not really.  I didn't say I am a good pvper.  My friend (who told me to look at this game) and their clan were probably best pvpers from what I look at in these forums of this game.  But yea I just say how it is, if you don't like it then good for you.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 01:56:23 am
This exact second there are a total of 297 active players on all c-RPG servers. This is not prime time for either NA nor EU. I think that is a pretty healthy number, and over the course of the day you can easily make up the numbers the statistics site tracks.

Back when the Independent NA Community tracker was up, it cataloged an unbelievable amount of players and unique CD Keys for just the community servers alone, and chadz and the crew had zero control over it.

but your website makes lies for numbers, and you dont have as many player as CoD, WoW or Counterstrike...

here is a video of me owning at a game much better than shit piece of shit crpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYZEHmOWSQ

Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 01:58:11 am
My friend (who told me to look at this game) and their clan were probably best pvpers from what I look at in these forums of this game.

Oh...
An entire clan being banned? Hmm...
Only clan that comes to mind is when Haven had half of their userbase banned for exploitation using the "report" feature for free multies. In that case, well deserved.

There are no other notable clans that were skilled enough to even bother mentioning that were mass banned.

Luckily I've seen most of everything on NA, and no they were not the best PvPers (though some were pretty good like Allers), nor were they undeserved bans.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 01:58:34 am
but your website makes lies for numbers, and you dont have as many player as CoD, WoW or Counterstrike...

here is a video of me owning at a game much better than shit piece of shit crpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYZEHmOWSQ

You are an example of and upset player like this other guy who says I am crying lol.  I can play other versions of this game. haha,  You are totally misreading everything what you just posted right there.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Joker86 on May 15, 2012, 01:59:24 am
Stats look pretty good out of 500 players on avg 200 per day.  That seems like A lot of players. Also most game companies lie about their player base./ even websites to look better. Example of some people who do that.  IGN, AoC, CoD, WoW, Counterstrike etc

Those companies have a monatery interest behind those statistics. A mod team which doesn't earn any money except of voluntary donations and has to run a server from it doesn't need neither tweaked statistics nor tens of thousands of players, who would pay for the servers?


Let's keep it as simple as possible:

- New players are expected to read the rules before connecting, even if they only "try out" a game
- Admins can't tell whether you are new or not, and even if they could, there is no difference
- teamkilling someone on purpose doesn't neccessarily need a ban, but a ban isn't too harsh either. It's a question of personal evaluation of the admin.
- if players teamkill on purpose, get banned and GTX, it's no loss for the community

I understand that in this moment you didn't know what to do, and it was a reflex to kill the attacker, but on the other hand you must understand that you still have to get punished. because if there was an exception made for you, other people would want exceptions, too, and personal investigation of every teamkill by the admin, making effective administration of the servers impossible. There is no way to prove you don't know something, but if not knowing the rules would be a valid argument, you could break any rule you want and say you didn't know about it, because nobody can verify or falsify that. That's where "Ignorance is no excuse in law." origins from.

I understand the situation was... unlucky... for you... but can I expect the same empathy from you, to understand that the admin had to punish you in a way?

Seriously, if you had read the rules you would have spent a short time here in the forum and the rest of the evening ingame. Now you spent a short time ingame and the rest of the evening in the forum. Decide yourself, which is the better option. I seriously hope you learn something from it, because that little patience really pays. In CoD for exaple it's often forbidden to use the grenade launcher. If you do so and get punished, do you have the right to complain, although the rules were listed when logging in?

I go even so far and check the options before I start a new game, just to see which keys are assignet to what, and if I see some known commands like "reload" not being on my favourite reload key (r), I change it. That way, when I start a new game, I don't need to pause it constantly to change the controls. Patience rocks  :wink:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 01:59:52 am
AoC, CoD, WoW, Counterstrike etc

Go back to those games, pal.

Clearly, this one is of too high standards for you.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:01:11 am
Oh...
An entire clan being banned? Hmm...
Only word that comes to mind is when Haven had half of their userbase banned for exploitation using the "report" feature for free multies. In that case, well deserved.

There are no other notable clans that were skilled enough to even bother mentioning that were mass banned.

Luckily I've seen most of everything on NA, and no they were not the best PvPers (though some were pretty good like Allers), nor were they undeserved bans.

Nah I didn't say whole clan I said most from tks, trolling.  You always get people who try to cheat but you can tell it is usually just bad players.  Just saying how it is from reading these forums. =)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:02:41 am
Those companies have a monatery interest behind those statistics. A mod team which doesn't earn any money except of voluntary donations and has to run a server from it doesn't need neither tweaked statistics nor tens of thousands of players, who would pay for the servers?


Let's keep it as simple as possible:

- New players are expected to read the rules before connecting, even if they only "try out" a game
- Admins can't tell whether you are new or not, and even if they could, there is no difference
- teamkilling someone on purpose doesn't neccessarily need a ban, but a ban isn't too harsh either. It's a question of personal evaluation of the admin.
- if players teamkill on purpose, get banned and GTX, it's no loss for the community

I understand that in this moment you didn't know what to do, and it was a reflex to kill the attacker, but on the other hand you must understand that you still have to get punished. because if there was an exception made for you, other people would want exceptions, too, and personal investigation of every teamkill by the admin, making effective administration of the servers impossible. There is no way to prove you don't know something, but if not knowing the rules would be a valid argument, you could break any rule you want and say you didn't know about it, because nobody can verify or falsify that. That's where "Ignorance is no excuse in law." origins from.

I understand the situation was... unlucky... for you... but can I expect the same empathy from you, to understand that the admin had to punish you in a way?

Seriously, if you had read the rules you would have spent a short time here in the forum and the rest of the evening ingame. Now you spent a short time ingame and the rest of the evening in the forum. Decide yourself, which is the better option. I seriously hope you learn something from it, because that little patience really pays. In CoD for exaple it's often forbidden to use the grenade launcher. If you do so and get punished, do you have the right to complain, although the rules were listed when logging in?

I go even so far and check the options before I start a new game, just to see which keys are assignet to what, and if I see some known commands like "reload" not being on my favourite reload key (r), I change it. That way, when I start a new game, I don't need to pause it constantly to change the controls. Patience rocks  :wink:

agrees...but ITS TO LATE!
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 02:03:40 am
Nah I didn't say whole clan I said most from tks, trolling.  You always get people who try to cheat but you can tell it is usually just bad players.  Just saying how it is from reading these forums. =)

Coming from the guy who has read literally every post on these forums (besides half of the moonspeak boards, I only pay attention to parts of the Russian forum, and bits and pieces of the Turkish and Spanish forums), I'm very curious on how much you could have possibly read for being a new guy.

This is pretty amusing, I'll give you that.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:04:19 am
Go back to those games, pal.

Clearly, this one is of too high standards for you.

This game mele combat is great, if the movement was better it would be up there being one of those best competitive games ever made.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:06:31 am
Coming from the guy who has read literally every post on these forums (besides half of the moonspeak boards, I only pay attention to parts of the Russian forum, and bits and pieces of the Turkish and Spanish forums), I'm very curious on how much you could have possibly read for being a new guy.

This is pretty amusing, I'll give you that.

Well being that it is a school week, not much to do.  Play some games here and there, it's always fun to read forums for me at least and for this being my 2nd day banned gives me time to go back and read.  listen to my friend talk to me in vent and cyber me about the good times in this game.

Yes this is amusing =)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 02:07:39 am
This game mele combat is great, if the movement was better it would be up there being one of those best competitive games ever made.

I can only agree.

However, you must've felt how hard it is to get the directional combat mechanics at first.
For it to become real competitive and successful, it has to have a less steep learning curve.

That means either two things. It has to be dumbed down, or Directional melee attack systems have to be in more games, which might lead to dumbing down again.

And I don't think it would do any good.
Most people are used to smash skill bars and faceroll the keyboard only, so this wouldn't be welcome in a bigger game.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:11:50 am
I can only agree.

However, you must've felt how hard it is to get the directional combat mechanics at first.
For it to become real competitive and successful, it has to have a less steep learning curve.

That means either two things. It has to be dumbed down, or Directional melee attack systems have to be in more games, which might lead to dumbing down again.

And I don't think it would do any good.

Well idk if you looked at Age of Conan, the movement in the game was great, was fucking awesome.  But company failed and cared to pvers and now look at that game.  Pretty much dead.  But yea usally most games are getting dumb down for the stay to home everyday farther. 

If you took Age of Conan movement and had the mele combat system like this.  Game would be great./ AoC mele system was great to but company failed so hard. (Funcom)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 02:13:06 am
Several posters including the very first reply told you why you got banned, let you know it wasn't permanent, tried to help you avoid future punishment, etc...

You've ignored every single one of them and just spewed nonsense. Posting three times in a row. Claiming that your friends/clan/friend's clan got mass banned BUT PLEASE DONT REVEAL THEIR IDENTITIES! Your fan-made mod of an independent studio's game has less players than Call of Duty! =)

You are not even capable of lucid conversation.  :?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:15:47 am
Several posters including the very first reply told you why you got banned, let you know it wasn't permanent, tried to help you avoid future punishment, etc...

You've ignored every single one of them and just spewed nonsense. Posting three times in a row. Claiming that your friends/clan/friend's clan got mass banned BUT PLEASE DONT REVEAL THEIR IDENTITIES! Your fan-made mod of an independent studio's game has less players than Call of Duty! =)

You are not even capable of lucid conversation.  :?

You still fail at what I am trying to get though...O well =)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Joker86 on May 15, 2012, 02:19:16 am
agrees...but ITS TO LATE!

Why? It's not too late for anything. But I would suggest that you stop posting for ten minutes, sit down, eat and/or drink something tasty, and try to decide whether you are upset and pissed off or not. If you decide that you are pissed off, ask yourself if this could influence your actions.

Currently I see the following thing: you log in to a server, get attacked, defend yourself and get banned. That's mean, I give you that.

But what you are doing now doesn't help you a single bit, you just make yourself unpopular on the forums. You see that your arguments get invalidated, and you rage more and more. That's the reason why you can't stop writing here, you want to "save" the situation, but it's already lost. I suggest that you calm down, accept that something unlucky happened, you raged, now you released some air, it's time to say okay "I give up, tomorrow I will keep on playing."

 :wink:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:22:49 am
Why? It's not too late for anything. But I would suggest that you stop posting for ten minutes, sit down, eat and/or drink something tasty, and try to decide whether you are upset and pissed off or not. If you decide that you are pissed off, ask yourself if this could influence your actions.

Currently I see the following thing: you log in to a server, get attacked, defend yourself and get banned. That's mean, I give you that.

But what you are doing now doesn't help you a single bit, you just make yourself unpopular on the forums. You see that your arguments get invalidated, and you rage more and more. That's the reason why you can't stop writing here, you want to "save" the situation, but it's already lost. I suggest that you calm down, accept that something unlucky happened, you raged, now you released some air, it's time to say okay "I give up, tomorrow I will keep on playing."

 :wink:

If I was raging, you would know.  I am playing a game atm.  And I am about to get a drink, but for now I am going to respond to you.  And because I made this post its getting people active in this little talked that no one probably really talked about.  It gets off track but back on and you proved my point.

"Currently I see the following thing: you log in to a server, get attacked, defend yourself and get banned. That's mean, I give you that."  Pretty much it
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 15, 2012, 02:43:08 am
This game does have decent amount of population, but now i see why that it only stays at this lvl of pop.  I just got ban from all servers for tking a teammate cuz he started to wack me and killed my horse lol from NA servers...I probbaly think it was an admin abusing his powers but idk (i hit the guy once and he died).  Just started playing this game and now i am being turned away from it.  Now i gotta play on laggy servers but not that bad on EUs around 120-140 ping.  But now I cant play with my friends so GG bad admins if anyone does have the power to unban.  Unban Ahrims please... Kinda gay that I get wack around then kill that player to make him stop and I get perma ban from the NA servers...just saying probably happens a lot more than what some people think.

You got a 20hr ban after you TKed me. I hit your horse while we were fighting a guy at a fence and then when you got up you killed me as we were walking away from his dead body.

I hit the horse once by accident and it died, TBH you rode straight into it as I was taking a shot at the dude at the fence. The rule is you don't revenge team wound or team kill. No discusion or shitting around on that, it has to be enforced or shit just gets out of hand.

Also you can press M when some one team wounds you or your horse and if that happens 5 times they get a short ban, so try that next time.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:48:19 am
You got a 20hr ban after you TKed me. I hit your horse while we were fighting a guy at a fence and then when you got up you killed me as we were walking away from his dead body.

I hit the horse once by accident and it died, TBH you rode straight into it as I was taking a shot at the dude at the fence. The rule is you don't revenge team wound or team kill. No discusion or shitting around on that, it has to be enforced or shit just gets out of hand.

Also you can press M when some one team wounds you or your horse and if that happens 5 times they get a short ban, so try that next time.

wasn't you, was guy in full cloth with polearm and you say you shot something? So don't make stuff up pal, only TKED once
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 02:49:56 am
I think people who are just posting random stuff should reread thread and look at what I am saying (reading first sentence or Title of thread doesn't count)

Maybe you should reread the thread and look at what you are saying.

I just got ban from all servers for tking a teammate

Now i gotta play on laggy servers but not that bad on EUs around 120-140 ping.

GG bad admins I get perma ban from the NA servers...just saying probably happens a lot more than what some people think.

I'm permabanned from all servers! Now I have to play on EU, and I have 140 ping!

little spot on. agreeing with carebears is what kills most of the games like CoD - now look at it, counterstrike - Age of Conan-MMos etc etc good debate

What. This looks like something a chat robot would spit out after you ask it "do you like to play video games?"

Age of Conan were probably funniest/best trolls forums I ever seen in a game

And then you quoted yourself and replied to your own statement. I don't even  :shock:

Nah I didn't say whole clan I said most from tks, trolling.  You always get people who try to cheat but you can tell it is usually just bad players.  Just saying how it is from reading these forums. =)

Your friend and his clan were mostly banned for TKs and trolling? But they didn't break a real rule like cheating, and they were the BEST pvp players in the entire population. Which there is none of, since no one plays this game.

You are an example of and upset player like this other guy who says I am crying lol.  I can play other versions of this game. haha,  You are totally misreading everything what you just posted right there.

I'm not frustrated or upset, nor am I spending any effort on this. You make no sense and are ignoring anything helpful that people say to you. Please, I just want you to understand the gravity of the situation!

You are actin' a fool! Chill out! The melee combat is great, and no other game has a similar system! Don't hate all admins for one incident. In the future, let them know when someone is teamhitting you and then justice will be served!


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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 02:56:17 am
Well that picture is a bit disturbing O_o
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:56:37 am
get at me miss piggy?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: MrShine on May 15, 2012, 02:58:47 am
can someone unban ahrims so he can shut the fuck up already?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 02:59:14 am
Maybe you should reread the thread and look at what you are saying.

I'm permabanned from all servers! Now I have to play on EU, and I have 140 ping!

What. This looks like something a chat robot would spit out after you ask it "do you like to play video games?"

And then you quoted yourself and replied to your own statement. I don't even  :shock:

Your friend and his clan were mostly banned for TKs and trolling? But they didn't break a real rule like cheating, and they were the BEST pvp players in the entire population. Which there is none of, since no one plays this game.

I'm not frustrated or upset, nor am I spending any effort on this. You make no sense and are ignoring anything helpful that people say to you. Please, I just want you to understand the gravity of the situation!

You are actin' a fool! Chill out! The melee combat is great, and no other game has a similar system! Don't hate all admins for one incident. In the future, let them know when someone is teamhitting you and then justice will be served!


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Don't be that guy.

You do sound upset, and you're putting a lot effort looking for pics and going back.  Get at my sister!  You point is still invalided. lol to easy
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 03:01:23 am
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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 15, 2012, 03:03:56 am
wasn't you, was guy in full cloth with polearm and you say you shot something? So don't make stuff up pal, only TKED once


It was me, Eyebeat banned you after I told him you TKed me. I didn't have a polearm I had a 2h mace. I was wearing a head cloth and leather jerkin.

You sir, paint yourself the fool.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 03:04:13 am
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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Wraist on May 15, 2012, 03:04:22 am
New players without any previous offences should NEVER be banned for revenge tk, a lot of times these are people tking in self defence against trolls, and banning for revenge tk is EXACTLY what those trolls want.

What is a new player to do against assholes who use technicalities in the rules to try and get you banned?

When one joins a game, it tells him to make sure that he knows the server rules, if he didn't read the rules to begin with then that's his fault.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 03:09:38 am
true but if u get ban from that server, you shouldn't be been from almost all of the NA servers that have some people in them at least.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 03:12:14 am
true but if u get ban from that server, you shouldn't be been from almost all of the NA servers that have some people in them at least.

Only the officials are tied. You will still be able to play on the private ones such as the Community servers (which are normally up, but have been offline today).
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: ahrims on May 15, 2012, 03:15:51 am
Well i am done for now peace
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 03:19:55 am
Guys help! He has strings tied to my arms and legs and is making me dance like a puppet! I am being played like a violin! I am upset!

Nothing entertains me, I am an inhuman creature whose life-flame is stoked with rage and misery!

But really dude, keep it up. You're the Thích Quảng Đức (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thich_Quang_Duc) of CPRG. You have lit yourself aflame, and everybody is watching you now. But you didn't do it to protest anything. You did it because "guys, look!"
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: TurmoilTom on May 15, 2012, 03:25:23 am
I just came here to let everyone know I like A_Hot_Elf_Princess' avatar. Honestly, that's the most important thing I have to say in regards to anything in this thread.

Bye.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Sergee on May 15, 2012, 03:29:45 am
shit game shit admins gg
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 15, 2012, 03:31:25 am
I just came here to let everyone know I like A_Hot_Elf_Princess' avatar. Honestly, that's the most important thing I have to say in regards to anything in this thread.

Bye.

What is that from?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: MrShine on May 15, 2012, 03:34:27 am
What is that from?
The bottom of Tom's heart
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 15, 2012, 03:36:12 am
The bottom of Tom's heart

The avi, you silly.  :idea:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on May 15, 2012, 03:40:24 am
The avi, you silly.  :idea:

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Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lt_Anders on May 15, 2012, 04:11:02 am
I know that! But what one. Looks familiar.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: [ptx] on May 15, 2012, 09:09:56 am
Why are people so upset about some random CoD my old friendget? Like, really, who gives a shit that he can't make sense of stuff?
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 15, 2012, 09:39:49 am
Why are people so upset about some random CoD my old friendget? Like, really, who gives a shit that he can't make sense of stuff?
and why are you feeding this thread?


oops.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: [ptx] on May 15, 2012, 09:57:51 am
Hello there.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Vibe on May 15, 2012, 10:13:05 am
lol
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Molly on May 15, 2012, 10:27:20 am
Why are people so upset about some random CoD my old friendget? Like, really, who gives a shit that he can't make sense of stuff?
I actually read the whole thread right now (just cuz I am still waiting on the redownload of broken D3-files -.-) and was wondering the exact same thing...
So much effort to keep some dude who is obviously an asshole. Is the community this desperate... besides we already have our fair share of assholes. I don't need another one but then again it's NA...  8-)
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Camaris on May 15, 2012, 10:27:49 am
feed the troll!!!
would be to bad if another idiot would leave :p
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: wanteds on May 15, 2012, 10:39:59 am
@OP You should have used "i" button to report to admin instead of tking. If you were an EU player you would've gotten away with a warning tho.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Christo on May 15, 2012, 03:31:45 pm
Why are people so upset about some random CoD my old friendget? Like, really, who gives a shit that he can't make sense of stuff?

So much effort to keep some dude who is obviously an asshole. Is the community this desperate...

I was bored last night  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: LordBerenger on May 15, 2012, 04:25:07 pm
http://www.c-rpg.net/statistics.php

What a load of crap  :shock:
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 15, 2012, 07:38:11 pm
What a load of crap  :shock:
Pretty believable when you realize how fast the average player rotates out of a server, not many people stay for a whole hour or more.
Title: Re: One reason why this game has low pop
Post by: Lactose_the_intolerant on May 15, 2012, 10:39:47 pm
To op. go play napoleonic wars and come to report to us about admins there  :rolleyes: