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Title: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 03:17:16 pm
yet again as i said before for abusing polls i will post every single one of you.. there is no such thing as delaying as the flags came up both times.. there people are just mad and will never learn.. i recommend 24hr bans as this as already happened serveral times.. and will admin plz get on and turn them off.. thanks

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Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 03:21:52 pm
I was around for this incident, The pollers were warned that rage polling could get them banned and the second poller blatantly admitted he didn't care.

Until there is a rule that HA/HX have to dismount then player should not take it upon themselves to legislate new rules, it's beyond ridiculous.

As usual Rohy was still engaging, dehorsing cav and getting kills, and MOTF was working properly so there isn't even the excuse that there's no alternate victory condition.

Just rohy getting shit for playing his class by players who think they can make new server rules whenever they please, normal day in CRPG.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 03:24:39 pm
He delayed five rounds in a row.  There were 30 people in that game.  They got fed up with it.  I polled once.  Another Player Polled. 

The Poll passed because people got fed up with some guy making us wait an extra 3 minutes every round for the same outcome we all knew was going to happen.

He knew he had no chance of winning and just kept delaying. 

Frankly, he deserved to be kicked and the community thought so too.  Hence, why the poll passed.

It was one thing if he did it only once or twice.  But he did it five times in a row.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 03:29:17 pm
"ill get voted off and post about poll abuse spook"

From that text you can also see that he knew he was going to get kicked from the poll because he knew what he was doing deserved it.

if 15+ people vote you out because you're delaying, chances are you're delaying.  If an admin was there, they would have asked him to stop doing what he was doing.  I was on the guy's team and still initiated the poll with a x2 going.  That should pretty much tell you everything you need to know.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 03:35:08 pm
btw i knew i woudl get voted off because im like the most hated person in crpg.. anything i do everyone votes me.. so you do not know what you are talking about.. 2nd i wasnt even on for 5 rounds, i was on for 3.. oh and there wasnt 30 people on there was 24.. and the most ive killed to win a round is 15 and there was 8 left.. and i was on top of my team so i was obvsiouly doing something.. just admit your poll abusing and take your ban and dont do it again.. thanks
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Malke on May 14, 2012, 03:37:30 pm
Oh hey, I was there aswell! I can honestly say that I do not like Rohypnol, and I do not endorse the way he plays. He was actively engaging the enemy, though some consider it delaying because there is just no way he will kill a full team when we are only down one. It is pretty fucking annoying, not to mention Rohypnol is just a douchebag but that's another problem. I don't think anyone should be banned for this or anything but there should be a rule against this sort of stuff. Rohypnol thinks very highly of himself and he let's everyone know, that might also contribute to most of the people on the server wanting him kicked.
So, I was not really for the kick. I understand why they did it though, and I hope that the admins think hard about the potential player loss if players like this are set on the loose. Make some sort of rule against this sort of crap!
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 03:38:18 pm
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In this image PK_IncrediblySkillful flat out admits Rohypnol wasn't delay, but rather simply using a playstyle that the server didn't agree with. He wasn't breaking any rules other than the rules that people made up for their own lack of ability to remain alive/ kill rohypnol. Again, there is no rule stating that an HA must dismount, only that the player must actively be engaging which Rohypnol always does because he's actually pretty good at being an HA. I'm not a big fan of sitting around chasing the guy but i realize that i'm not a dev so i can't just make up my own rules on the fly as i go.

These were both ragepolls.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 03:41:12 pm
I agree with Spook,  ROH consistently logs on Trolls and Delays.  Its one thing when there are around 5 people still left but today there were between 9-12.  Roh does not actively participate in the battle untill the end, generally hiding in a cornor picking off stragglers.  The effect of this is that it unbalances his team which is why he is in a position to delay so often.  During the course of a battle players work together getting kill together and saving each others lives.  when roh plays most the players who have good kdr's and do this end up on the other team.  Thus the players on his team get slaughtered and he ends up delaying the round againt impossible numbers.

Furthermore for the 20mins a day he logs on as roh he does nothing but troll other players.  The following is an example of this

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and if his possie is on they tend to get in on it

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I've seen Roh delay like this against numbers 30+, how is this not delaying?

Roh's actions and behavior are detrimental to the C-RPG community, at the moment he presents an aragent attitude giving the impression to everyone else that he can do what ever he wants and be a jerk about it.

There is a reason that these poll's pass.  Please listen to the majority!

Oh, and I love ROH.  We go way back, so this isn't personal. 
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Black Wind on May 14, 2012, 03:48:11 pm
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In this image PK_IncrediblySkillful flat out admits Rohypnol wasn't delay, but rather simply using a playstyle that the server didn't agree with. He wasn't breaking any rules other than the rules that people made up for their own lack of ability to remain alive/ kill rohypnol. Again, there is no rule stating that an HA must dismount, only that the player must actively be engaging which Rohypnol always does because he's actually pretty good at being an HA. I'm not a big fan of sitting around chasing the guy but i realize that i'm not a dev so i can't just make up my own rules on the fly as i go.

These were both ragepolls.

Well c-RPG is a community game no? Many people play this in countries across the world. Asia, NA, EU, AUS etc etc.

This wasn't delaying as he was engaging, but it was a hopeless battle against more than 50% of the opposing team (sometimes more than 75%). This was a waste of everyones time, as there was seemingly no range on that other team.

As it's a community game, and the majority of that community was getting fed up with the horse crossbower making an attempt to preserve his 6:1 KDR for boasting rights. I think it's justified, don't you? In my opinion, (and evidently the opinion of >51% of the NA community), would happen to agree with me.

It's not hard to see why people get frustrated at him. Every minute in a vain attempt to preserve his KDR, of which, nobody else sees (he screenshots and puts it on the forum to expand his e-peen), wastes one minute of every other player in the servers life, that they can't get back. How selfish.

Thanks.

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I wasn't angry at ROH, and I understand that what I did was wrong, but I thought it was in the best interest of the community, as did the majority (my poll passed).

Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 03:50:34 pm
btw i knew i woudl get voted off because im like the most hated person in crpg.. anything i do everyone votes me.. so you do not know what you are talking about.. 2nd i wasnt even on for 5 rounds, i was on for 3.. oh and there wasnt 30 people on there was 24.. and the most ive killed to win a round is 15 and there was 8 left.. and i was on top of my team so i was obvsiouly doing something.. just admit your poll abusing and take your ban and dont do it again.. thanks

Yeah there were definitely more than 24 people there, and even if it was only 12+ people like you're implying, that's still 12+ people who thought you deserved to be kicked for what you were doing.  You were also there longer than 3 rounds so don't even try lying.  I get legitimately poll abuse kicked all the time and you don't see me throwing a fit and asking people to be banned over it.Also, I have no record of ever being accused or convicted of poll abuse. EVER.  That should pretty much tell you what you need to know.  God knows people would try to get me on that charge if they could.   We all asked you to stop doing what you were doing and you kept going right on after it.  Nobody wants to have to keep doing master of the flag every round because some guy would rather ride around on a horse wasting everyone's time with no hope whatsoever of actually winning.

It'd be one thing if you had a chance of winning.
It'd be another thing if you only did it a couple times.

But you kept doing it over and over and over, long after people started asking you to stop.

The fact of the matter is you wouldnt have been polled and directly kicked if you didn't actually deserve it.

30thLevelWizard tried to poll kick me after for mentioning I get legit poll abused all the time and it only got 22% so that defense of ".. but im the most hated person in CRPG" definitely isnt go fly.

You deserved to get poll kicked, and I'll stick up for every person that made the poll along with me because it was the right thing to do.  That is all there is to it

Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 03:51:18 pm
whoa wait... what does this have anything to do with the poll abuse.. and this was like a week ago.. when people start complaining and throwing remarks my way you best im going to say it back.. if they are mad and just tryin to get at me which is 100 percent of the time the case.. im going to make them even more mad.. oh yeah you are totally right.. i kill nothing but peasents and people that are no good at all.. i guess its probably why i have killed  you over 1million times.. don't say you have nothing against me if you are saving up screenshots form over a week ago.. trying to pick the right time to post them, when buddy its still the wrong its.. this is a poll abuse thread

simply i got to back myself up sometimes.. and its nice to have people like ycla around to help and realize you guys are full of bs and rage just because you are on the other side of it.. come on guys stop crying and playing against the rules.. spook was this a legitimate poll or not.. i mean really.. no.. yet again this is not about how i play this game.. its about you abusing the rules.. which is what you did and you should be punished for it.. should i become admin so all this nonsense can stop?
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 03:56:35 pm
The majority of the community doesn't make the rules or all ranged, horse or ground, would be banned, polearms would have no stagger, shields would probably not exist, and in fact this game would probably simply be 2hers online.

As most people have mentioned in their own words Rohypnol was actively engaging which is to say he was fighting which, under the current definition is not delaying. As for the claims that he hides till the end of the round that might be true on occasion but as for today as a cav i watched rohy zoom right past me shooting at my horse within 30 seconds of the start of most rounds. He's not hiding anywhere he simply pimps his arabian and rockets across the field dodging most anything that comes his way.

Annoyance with his playstyle still does not give the general community the right or the power to change the rules of the game and kick a player for playing within the bounds of the rules. If that's the case then when i can convince a majority of players that a plate + crushthrough weapon is "damaging our fun" can we votekick him too? How about ground archers? Maybe a pikeman, definitely that because they're my worst nightmare as cav (a good one at least).

Devs make the rules, admins enforce them. Nowhere along the line did i read that this had become a democracy where players have the go ahead to make and enforce their own policies at whim, nor should it be that way. Hate that horse archers don't have to dismount? Well make a thread about it and ask for a rule change- don't just enforce your own rules that aren't even close to being policy. This is getting ridiculous and the end result isn't going to be an action against rohypnol it's probably going to be them turning off bans so that they don't have to read this shit every single day. You think Rohy is a "troll" wait till you see what servers are like when there are no admins and polls aren't on. It ain't pretty.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 04:03:49 pm
I'm pretty sure griefing is against the rules.

but lets get technical for you so there isn't any wiggle worm to try pulling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Griefing
Griefing is the act of chronically causing grief to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their gameplay.


And yes that was clearly a legit poll considering how many people voted against you.

This wasn't a game of 10 people. 

It wasn't even a game of only 20 people.

You deserved to be poll kicked.  You admitted you knew it was going to happen in the very screenshots you posted.  Now you're trying to act like it was unwarranted and out of the blue?

Give me a break...
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 04:09:37 pm
dude you give me a break.. now you are trying to say im doing griefing.. when thats clearly not true then you come up with some other bogus excuse to try and justify yourself.. you are diverting from the abuse of polls.. you could be a really good politician.. good game dude.. im done talking to you.. let the admins do what they think is right.. maybe you will stop being so delusional
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 04:09:49 pm
The point is that he delay's 2-3 minutes on average most rounds that he plays.  It's one thing during the battle to have have an op player doing his thing.  But when that guy is the only one left and he's riding around in circles not winning just waiting for the flags to save his kdr. THAT IS DELAYING! 

The point is that 99% of the time he doesn't try to win battles (by preventing the other team from reaching the flag and killing those at it) he focuses on the stragglers while the folks at the flag take it.  He may be engaging but he is not actively trying to win the battle, and all the while 50-75% of the other players have to sit around and wait. 
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 04:12:52 pm
The point is that he delay's 2-3 minutes on average most rounds that he plays.  It's one thing during the battle to have have an op player doing his thing.  But when that guy is the only one left and he's riding around in circles not winning just waiting for the flags to save his kdr. THAT IS DELAYING! 

The point is that 99% of the time he doesn't try to win battles (by preventing the other team from reaching the flag and killing those at it) he focuses on the stragglers while the folks at the flag take it.  He may be engaging but he is not actively trying to win the battle, and all the while 50-75% of the other players have to sit around and wait.

lies.. cry
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 04:19:54 pm
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If that definition of griefing were used a lot of people clamoring for this to be an accepted practice would be gone constantly on forced vacation. Have we played so much CRPG that we've forgotten that the kind of trolling that goes on on a constant basis in CRPG would be grounds for perma-ban on most private servers in other games. Case in point Spook, you spend much of your time on the game randomly insulting and being as offensive as you possibly can be interspersed with an occasional bout of strategy and/or compliments when your team is winning. The amount of vitriol that you spew on an almost daily basis would get you kicked constantly if we instituted the "make rules as you feel like" idea that seems to be the basis of this thread.

There's a reason that there is a set of rules handed down from the devs and there's a reason that those are the rules enforced by the admins. Polls are a nice privilege that we get to moderate the servers when admins aren't around (which by the way for mornings on NA is pretty much every day- could you guys pick an admin that actually logs in mornings please?) but if we abuse that privilege they're just going to take it away again and then we all get to suffer through Trollfield: Call of Dickery like we used to back in the day.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Malke on May 14, 2012, 04:20:37 pm
Haha, one thing I have noticed from this. On the server you do nothing but talk shit while here where admins will read this you act like the helpless victim. It's hilarious.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 04:24:19 pm
Pretty sure the definition of griefing is right there for you to see and that is exactly what you were doing.  The community agreed. 

This wasn't some triviality like talking smack or using harsh language that might scar the mind of a 9 year old who had never stepped outside his parent's home.
You were intentionally disrupting the game with your antics, repeatedly, every round you were there.  Even when asked to stop.

And you knew you were doing it; just like you knew you were going to get kicked for it.

And now you're trying to get people banned because you wanted to play nothing but Equestrian Hide and Go seek Simulator instead of CRPG.

Sorry, but there were 29 other people in that game who wanted to play CRPG instead of watch you ride on a horse for half the of the round; every round.

80% of the time you can't even get an AFK poll kicked on the server.
But somehow little old innocent you made well over the grade despite being totally faultless of any wrongdoing whatsoever...  yeah, I'm sure that will definitely hold up to scrutiny.

You knew you were griefing.  Just like you knew you were going to get poll kicked for it.

The screens you posted tell the tale.

The polls exist for a reason.  If an admin was there, they would have put an end to it.

Instead, the community did their job like the polls were designed to do.

Remove griefers, leechers, and the AFK.

It was a victory for democracy and a breath of fresh air considering 75% of all the polls we do see are overzealous, unwarranted, and tainted by personal bloodlust.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 04:32:38 pm
I find it funny that you find trash talking a triviality, but playing one's class a kickworthy offense.

I also find it interesting that you make constant appeals to the majority. So, is the case now that you only have to make a poll appeal popular enough regardless of the actual rules. That would be an interesting day because then on the days when half the server is complaining about Spook's complete inability to go 2 maps without personally attacking half the server we'd see him kicked on a consistent basis. Again, i find it interesting that you're fighting so hard for an interpretation of polling that has no basis in the rules as written and moreover would only work against you if it were ever actually implemented.

"Well let the community decide" is all well and good when it's against someone that you are annoyed with personally but when it turns around and bites you right back i can only imagine the shouts of "wait that isn't in the rules, that's not that important! It's just a triviality!"

Funny though i think that may be i'd rather have a hard fast set of rules than a group of people deciding on the fly based on their whim of the day.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 04:36:21 pm
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If that definition of griefing were used a lot of people clamoring for this to be an accepted practice would be gone constantly on forced vacation. Have we played so much CRPG that we've forgotten that the kind of trolling that goes on on a constant basis in CRPG would be grounds for perma-ban on most private servers in other games. Case in point Spook, you spend much of your time on the game randomly insulting and being as offensive as you possibly can be interspersed with an occasional bout of strategy and/or compliments when your team is winning. The amount of vitriol that you spew on an almost daily basis would get you kicked constantly if we instituted the "make rules as you feel like" idea that seems to be the basis of this thread.

There's a reason that there is a set of rules handed down from the devs and there's a reason that those are the rules enforced by the admins. Polls are a nice privilege that we get to moderate the servers when admins aren't around (which by the way for mornings on NA is pretty much every day- could you guys pick an admin that actually logs in mornings please?) but if we abuse that privilege they're just going to take it away again and then we all get to suffer through Trollfield: Call of Dickery like we used to back in the day.

1. I do get kicked constantly and I'm not even putting the entire game on hold for my own personal antics.
2. I got banned yesterday for 20 hours because I offended a few 12 year olds with harsh language that made them feel bad (yeah, everybody knew that one was legit bullshit).  But I still took it and got over it.

This guy put the entire game on hold repeatedly, over and over, and is trying to act like a fucking saint about it.   It's ridiculous.

Do you see me crying on the boards, trying to play the martyr card, when I get hit with the insane amount of bullshit (some deserved, mostly not) that I do?  No. You don't.   And  I can assure you right now that I deal with this type of stuff 10 X more than everyone in this topic put together, and the most I'm ever doing is putting on a clown show in chat; not actually forcing everyone to sit around watching me disrupt the game to pad my KDR that is going to wipe when I retire anyway.  Also, there is no other player  who compliments players and their team more than I do. Just for the record.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 04:38:44 pm
I find it funny that you find trash talking a triviality, but playing one's class a kickworthy offense.

I see horse archers playing all the time who don't do the type of garbage that Semen was pulling.  Why aren't they getting poll kicked?  Why aren't we seeing a rash of ban topics from outraged horse archers unjustly kicked for "just playing their class"

Oh wait, its because there's a huge difference between playing your class and outright delaying for the sake of delaying, repeatedly, as often as you can.

You don't have a case.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 04:46:32 pm
lies.. cry

Roh that's exactly how you play, and you know it.  Funny, I took you for a lot of thing but not a liar.  Guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 04:53:50 pm
yet again this is a poll abuse thread.. if you got an issue with other things besides of what happened and you have PROOF.. then post about it.. otherwise shut up..
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Black Wind on May 14, 2012, 04:59:45 pm
And in the next episode of Neighbours, will Steve run off with Hollie? Who knows?! Will this drama ever end?
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Aderyn on May 14, 2012, 05:03:08 pm
stfu u nerds this is bannable offence as shown in previous banthreads. Stop pollabusing because you can't wait for 1minute.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31618.0.html

and

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31568.0.html
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 05:06:29 pm
yet again this is a poll abuse thread.. if you got an issue with other things besides of what happened and you have PROOF.. then post about it.. otherwise shut up..

I can't speak for anyone else here Roh, but every thing I have posted is directly related to the title of this thread.  Defending the legitimacy of my claims is as well, telling people to shut up however is not.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 05:14:41 pm
plz don't go all elementary on me.. only reason you are here is because you strongly dislike me.. look at what aderyn posted.. there is more proof its against the rules
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 06:03:47 pm
stfu u nerds this is bannable offence as shown in previous banthreads. Stop pollabusing because you can't wait for 1minute.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31618.0.html

and

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,31568.0.html

there was a similar poll against aderyn earlier and i pressed 2 because he wasnt actually delaying.  he was fighting and not dragging the game out every single round he was there.  the poll was highly unsuccessful anyway because people knew that.

just because other people have jumped the gun in the past doesnt mean that every case where a horse archer gets poll kicked is illegitimate.  That's just silly.

The dude deserved it.  He knew he deserved it.  It's been pretty much proven that he knew he deserved it by his own admission that he knew he'd be kicked.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 06:10:48 pm
plz don't go all elementary on me.. only reason you are here is because you strongly dislike me.. look at what aderyn posted.. there is more proof its against the rules

Jeez Roh, guess you do have a tendency to make everything about you.  But no, I'm here because your actions are damaging this community and the game.  Like I said before, I love you bro, but I'm sick of your behavior and attitude. When These poll are cast they pass over and over again.  The Majority of the community is sick of it.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Neux on May 14, 2012, 06:16:19 pm
It's really an issue of disrespecting the other players in the server.... Majority of players that are some type of HA or HX will stop and get off horse when they are last... Because they respect that other people's time is important, and that other people want to play.. not sit around waiting for some jerkoff to finish padding KDR.

Rohypnol has always shown nothing but disrespect for other players and yet admins continue coddling him like this.

It is pathetic, really.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 06:22:39 pm
Honestly it seems at this point like its more about trying to bait people into submitting a poll to kick him after he tries to piss everyone off by griefing for as long as he can get away with it.  Then he rushes onto the forum so he can try to get someone banned for it.  At least that's what it seems like based on how his behavior was in game, the pictures he posted, how soon he wanted to take this to the forum, and how he's acted in this thread.

The dude deserved to be poll kicked.  The large majority of people who were actually there and saw what he was doing realize this. 
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Spook Island on May 14, 2012, 07:06:52 pm
yet again as i said before for abusing polls i will post every single one of you.. there is no such thing as delaying as the flags came up both times.. there people are just mad and will never learn.. i recommend 24hr bans as this as already happened serveral times.. and will admin plz get on and turn them off.. thanks

I think this quote is pretty much damning evidence to the point I just made.

The guy is going out, essentially fishing for bans, actively seeking to cause as much of a disruption to the game as possible (for as long as he can) till everyone gets fed up with it and eventually someone launches a poll to get rid of his griefing B.S. (which is what the polls are there to do).  As soon as the first poll flies, he starts saying "I'll get voted off..." because that is exactly what he is trying to do.  That is exactly what he wants.  Because 1. He knows what he is doing is wrong and 2. Because he's personally stated, more or less, that it is now his mission to get everyone banned who disagrees with the idea that he is free to grief as much as he wants as long as he hides it under the guise of "playing his class." 

I was on his team.  We weren't winning.  He didn't have any bonuses from wins.  He had nothing to lose from getting kicked.  I had a bonus from valour at one point and even still opted to get rid of him because he was ruining the game intentionally for everyone to plainly see. He had no bonus to lose.  I'm sure he'll probably end up lying and say "yeah, but I had valour, too!" to cover his tracks a little better, but I feel it's pretty clear at this point what the guy has been exposed for what he is; a professional griefer who is trying to skirt and exploit the system for personal gain to cause as much mischief and headaches as he can get away with.


When you break it all down from a logical perspective.  The polls are there for a reason.  To kick leechers, people who are afk, and griefers.  Guess which is the most important out of those 3? 

The vast majority of people who were there opted toward kicking him out of the game.   There were 2 polls against him that I remember.  The first one got 50%.  It was a no brainer that he was going to get another the next time he did the same routine.  If myself or PK didn't poll him, someone else would have after the next round when he pulled the same stunt, or the one after that.  The polls are there to protect the community from people like Rohy when the Admins aren't there to help us.  They are our last line of defense against griefers.  If we're going to start banning people for doing the right thing and getting rid of obvious griefers, you' might as well just remove polls altogether and hand the key to the city back over to game griefers who would prefer to turn the server into their own little twisted circus.

At the end of the day, that poll was perfectly justified and ROHY is quite simply  manufacturing drama so he can try to get people banned for fun and amusement.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: bigsean on May 14, 2012, 08:31:00 pm
As Aderyn pointed out garbage pollbans have resulted in admin bans, but the precedent for pollkicks is to let them slide. Generally, if >50% of the server wants you gone then it's really a community issue, unless say a certain player abuses it repeatedly.

see: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,30991.msg458291.html

At one point i'd agree with rohyp about admin action on pollkicks but at the end of the day, no damage is really done. And finding out exactly what went down, whether you were engaging or delaying, is exhausting for a little pollkick.

It's fun to go against the odds and try to steal a win, but if you're doing it over and over then the community's gonna get pissed. People say that "if rohyp gets to try why can't I?", and it's actually kind of comforting to know that it actually happens to you too.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Aderyn on May 14, 2012, 08:48:39 pm
Turn off pollkick/ban NOW. Abused pretty much every day. :[
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: ROHYPNOL on May 14, 2012, 08:50:41 pm
spook im laughing at how you keep taking things that i say and trying to misinterpret it in some other way.. like saying i knew it was going to happen.. like as if i want it to happen.. no i say it becuase everyone always tries to vote kick me when everyone knows its against the rules.. plz stop taking my words and twisting them up and saying "see he knew it" .. no  just becuase i know im going to get kicked does not mean that its right.. i know people hate me.. what do you want me to do about it? stop playing how im supposed to.. it is not my fault when i got on this morning LITERALLY no one on the opposite team had any kind of range.. what do you expect me to do.. let you kill me... go ahead plz take more words of mine and say more things like SEE CLEARLY HE KNOWS.. when clearly you are full of crap and trying to hide the fact that what you did IS against the rules.. i play my build like this day in and day out with admins on and everything and only people like you seem to have a problem with it.. and when i post on forums about abuse you have nothing to back yourself up with.. there is NO PROOF you have about anything.. just heresay bs lies.. admins have been on serveral times monitoring me and it has been know over 100 times that what i do is NOT against the rules.. nothing has changed

and what makes you think i get on everyday just trying to get people banned? stop stearing away from the arugment itself, trying to throw the entire reasoning behind this forum post off by saying other stuff about greifing and delaying... when those i guess in your eyes are your personal opinion.. the forum post again is about you abusing polls.. so when you know that you are wrong go ahead and find something that is completly off the subject and not true to throw the entire debate over the post off.. lets start from fresh.. WHY were you abusing polls on someone that was on top of his team and continually killing people and motf was popped everything time? what is this called... abuse.. go ahead now and divert from the arguement which you are CLEARLY doing..
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Gomer on May 14, 2012, 09:21:47 pm
He delayed five rounds in a row.  There were 30 people in that game.  They got fed up with it.  I polled once.  Another Player Polled. 

The Poll passed because people got fed up with some guy making us wait an extra 3 minutes every round for the same outcome we all knew was going to happen.

He knew he had no chance of winning and just kept delaying. 

Frankly, he deserved to be kicked and the community thought so too.  Hence, why the poll passed.

It was one thing if he did it only once or twice.  But he did it five times in a row.
U Mad Bro?
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 09:24:06 pm
You know what, fuck it just turn off polls because people can't handle the most minor forms of responsibility without going all Napoleon with them. Every time i turn around someone is ragepolling for one reason or another and it's just getting completely ridiculous. Take the toy away because the kiddies can't play nice.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: JasonPastman on May 14, 2012, 09:33:28 pm
Turn off pollkick/ban NOW. Abused pretty much every day. :[

I strongly disagree.  I find that the poll kick/ban is used responsibly 80% of the time. When the issue is voted on the results are just 99% of the time.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: OpenPalm on May 14, 2012, 09:35:43 pm
Leave pollkicks ON.  If you piss off >=51% of the server, you deserve to lose your multi.  It's not the end of the world, it's a kick.  Drama queens are everywhere on this server, it's really silly.  Rohy, you got kicked twice, stop whining.  You're not the shit, your class is cowardly, and requires little skill.  Why do you act surprised when the majority of the server doesn't like waiting on your failure-scented ass?  KDR isn't everything.  It just means you manage to run away from unfavorable fights, and pick on those that are weak.  Clearly it doesn't always contribute to your team.  I think if you were winning most of the games with your "delaying" (in quotes because I suppose it's not truly delaying) then NO ONE from your team would have voted to kick you to end the round.  Stop acting like you're picked on and a victim through no fault of your own.

Spook is an idiot who doesn't know when to stop talking.  I suspect he's inebriated for the majority of the time he posts/is on the server. 

Conclusion:  Server is filled with borderline aspies who don't know when to quit.   8-)
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Ylca on May 14, 2012, 09:40:55 pm
It's not the end of the world, it's a kick.  Drama queens are everywhere on this server, it's really silly.  Rohy, you got kicked twice, stop whining.  You're not the shit, your class is cowardly, and requires little skill. 

...and this is the problem with polling. People are voting based on e-honour and perceived slights rather than server rules. It's become a form of mob rule and is abused pretty much daily.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Bobthehero on May 14, 2012, 09:42:23 pm
2. I got banned yesterday for 20 hours because I offended a few 12 year olds with harsh language that made them feel bad (yeah, everybody knew that one was legit bullshit).  But I still took it and got over it.

20, and I took no offense, but I figured the admin would think that'd be enough to ban you, it worked.  :wink:
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Gomer on May 14, 2012, 09:59:05 pm
PEOPLE SHUT THE FUCK UP RAGEPOLLS WONT GET PASSED INLESS THE ASSHOLE RAGED %51 OF THE GODDAMN SERVER. God forbid you have to press 1 or 2... Big fucking deal. I understand your little heads see those flashy mother fuckering messages pop up and pop a lil wood. When it comes down to it just tape your 1 key down and shut the fuck up... Fuckign Comie assholes....
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Smoothrich on May 15, 2012, 12:47:49 am
Polling people who are still engaging the enemy is abuse.  12 hour bans for all.

When will people learn?  No one gives a shit what you think about other people's playstyles, just uninstall the game if you really can't stand to have a horse xbowman cause a round to go 20 seconds longer then your ADD raddled brain wishes it would.  Kick and ban polls are supposed to be there for people teamkilling or auto walking into walls or hiding somewhere in the corner of the map where enemies can't find them, all against the rules.  Playing a high agility, unconventional class that ends up being alive longer then most others.. Deal With It.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Gomer on May 15, 2012, 04:18:08 am
Polling people who are still engaging the enemy is abuse.  12 hour bans for all.

When will people learn?  No one gives a shit what you think about other people's playstyles, just uninstall the game if you really can't stand to have a horse xbowman cause a round to go 20 seconds longer then your ADD raddled brain wishes it would.  Kick and ban polls are supposed to be there for people teamkilling or auto walking into walls or hiding somewhere in the corner of the map where enemies can't find them, all against the rules.  Playing a high agility, unconventional class that ends up being alive longer then most others.. Deal With It.
What he said...
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: BashirKhan on May 15, 2012, 04:19:38 am
I know this has already been settled and all but if i may offer any sort of advise it is this: If he is kicked for playing his class this often then yes something must be done. There is really only one way to ensure that it stops and that is to turn off polls, Because lets face it, Roh will probably be kicked by another poll (which if this many people do dislike him he probably will) and he will make another ban post, and it will work because These Are The Server Rules. Personel beliefs on right wrong, couragous or cowardly simply do not belong here. Until they do fix this problem it will continue to happen and people will continue to break this server rule and poll kick, and then get banned for it.
Title: Re: plz give 24hr bans to spookplanet and PK_incrediblyskillful for abusing polls
Post by: Muki on May 15, 2012, 04:27:18 am
Polling people who are still engaging the enemy is abuse.  12 hour bans for all.

When will people learn?  No one gives a shit what you think about other people's playstyles, just uninstall the game if you really can't stand to have a horse xbowman cause a round to go 20 seconds longer then your ADD raddled brain wishes it would.  Kick and ban polls are supposed to be there for people teamkilling or auto walking into walls or hiding somewhere in the corner of the map where enemies can't find them, all against the rules.  Playing a high agility, unconventional class that ends up being alive longer then most others.. Deal With It.

Locking this Thread seems Smooth already answer it