We used to have no upkeep for newer players. People abused it.There still is no upkeep for newer players. You have to start paying upkeep in the mid-20's or after you respec. Basically it doesn't do much. :lol:
Put on chaos banner.
Isn't this the basis for pretty much any multiplayer online game? You start off, you don't have anything nor is anything you get worth a damn until you gather levels and experience of the game in general. The players you speak of that wear the good armor and can afford the upkeep on them is because they have been around a while and have suffered the agonizing leveling through many generations and been able to sell/trade gear and heirloom points.Ideally, that shouldn't be the case. The benefit for having played a long time should largely be the practice you get over that time period. The straight-up bonuses you get should be minimal. For weapon looms, this is already the case (fully loomed armor + gloves still give a large bonus, however).
Ideally, that shouldn't be the case. The benefit for having played a long time should largely be the practice you get over that time period. The straight-up bonuses you get should be minimal. For weapon looms, this is already the case (fully loomed armor + gloves still give a large bonus, however).
We used to have no upkeep for newer players. People abused it.
just play in cheaper armor until you build up a buffer of 40-50k gold, it won't take that long
Thing with the helmet is you always get hit in the body, every round, but you might go several rounds without taking a head hit. Depends I guess. I wouldn't use more than ~40 head armour though as a new guy. As you get much lower it starts becoming questionable whether its worth having one at all imo, you're going to die from the head hit anyway I guessI love people with a shit ton of body armor but crappy headgear, one 1h leftslash to the face and they are done. Oh wait I'm 2h now, dangit.
(remember alot of time is wasted on not getting a gold/xp tick)Not really, you know you get a double tick in the first minute? One at 6:30 and one at 6:00. Compensates for the bulk of the time wasted. Average multiplier is close to 2 according to popular studies. So thats 8.33 hours for 50k. 50k nets you a decent gear set + a decent buffer. 25k gear and a 25k buffer. Want to compare that to the time it took to get decent equipment in the 2010 version of cRPG?
just play in cheaper armor until you build up a buffer of 40-50k gold, it won't take that long.
Thanks for all of those with helpful tips. Something I should have mentioned earlier is that I am not in plate or a "high-end" armor I am currently wearing the Byrnja, (may be misspelled), a nordic footman's helmet and carrying a broad short sword, which is a bit expensive along with a heater shield. I have purchased other equipment to try out, but those have been sold back. The real issue I suppose, is the fact that I am getting charged upkeep nearly every round. I have gone a few rounds in a row with little or no upkeep but then "BAM" I get hit with a very large upkeep for multiple games in a row. I've dropped my gear down to basic leather and sword for quite some time in order to stockpile a bit of gold but I know that I am not helping my team in any way which bothers me probably more than it should. It seems that I may have a bit of bad luck with team placement having recently lost 12 games in a row at 1x and then finally getting to 3x for one game. Overall, I am loving this mod and am addicted to it so much that one of my Eve accounts went two days with an empty training que. :P
Thanks again to those with the constructive replys.
For the 140 WPF reducing upkeep chance, is this affected by your armor weight or just the base stat on your char page?What 140 wpf reducing upkeep chance?
What 140 wpf reducing upkeep chance?
Break chance reduced with wpf in a linear fashion I think, whether you have 139 or 141 wpf doesn't matter much.
Weapon WPF. I believe ~140 after weapon modifiers puts your weapon break chance at 2%. Bare in mind every minute in game there is a chance of breakage, so keeping this figure low will help. Armour has 4% chance
1wpf is about 11% where as 140 is 2.5% so it does make a difference.
As a new player I was stoked to have finally saved up enough gold to buy a weapon that wasn't a shoddy noob sword and a suit of armor that helped absorb some of the teamwounding that I seem to receive on a regular basis. I was horrified after the first game when I was docked nearly 1,500 gold for upkeep, more than half of the gold I currently had left. I thought to myself, this is just chanced based and most likely wouldn't happen again for a while, right? It turns out, I was wrong. The second game wearing the same gear I was hit for almost the same amount as the first game emptying my coin purse of all gold except for 37. I was devastated, all of my hard earned gold had been depleted on upkeep costs for my new gear. Now the common answer to this seems to be peasant gear, which really is not a solid solution to the problem that newer players face with upkeep. The second answer seems to be to sell your first heirloom point. This answer of course does not help with trudging through the first painful 31 levels.I'm feeling charitable. Put up a straw hat for 50,000 gold and I'll buy it. PM me your player name if interested.
At first I thought that the upkeep was needed to keep everyone from using the best gear they could afford at all times. Now I see that it really only hinders newer players. The reason for this is that many of the veteran players have a fairly large amount of gold at their disposal so the upkeep may affect them but to a lesser extent. They can continue wearing higher priced gear and continue paying the higher upkeep due to having the larger amount of gold. The result of this is that the newer players with the less skill, lower levels, and mediocre to low gear are even more of an easy target and for the most part, "cannon fodder".
Is it possible to reduce the amount of upkeep for first generation players so that we can remain semi-competitive until our skills improve?
Is it a bug that I incur upkeep nearly every game, most of which are very large and teetering on the verge of being obscene?
I'm feeling charitable. Put up a straw hat for 50,000 gold and I'll buy it. PM me your player name if interested.
Just be happy you missed the real pain of being a peasent before upkeep and gold per tick :-)
Just be happy you missed the real pain of being a peasent before upkeep and gold per tick :-)Don't be happy about it. Seriously, you missed some real fun.