OP is a bundle of sticks
Most of the time I just read over it because of the context of the word in use. "Thats so gay"... "You're such a my old friend". I don't like it but it unfortunatley has been accepted as a social norm so I take it with a grain of salt. There have been definite instances where it has gone way beyond that directed right at me that can get under my skin but I typically still don't say anything.
I'm probably just super overly flamboyantly sensative.
Just stop qq'ing about what other people say or think and get on with playing your game. If they really hurt your sensative self that much then tell them to stop or you will report them to an admin. They will either stop or get muted for a while.
I suggest turning your efforts to ya know actual LGBT support groups, community outreach, writing to congressional representatives, actual things in the real world to fight discriminatory speech and actions in the hearts and minds of rednecks, bigots, and god-fearing homophobes across the country.. instead of lobbying for cRPG justice. for our servers are just a microcosm of society at large
What do you suspect the purpose of this post was? I have ignored it for a long time on Warband and I just dont want to completley ignore the severe instances of homophobia anymore. Those who stand for nothing fall for everything.
Look here. You can't control what people say or think. That's just life. As an adult you will learn to ignore what you don't like and instead focus on what you do like.
Look on the brightside. Being called a my old friend or a homo certainly beats the treatment you would recieve in the middle east or africa. I would take being called names over being stoned to death or hung anyday.
Stop being a bitch and man up...
who cares if people are offended
i am just going to go burn crosses on peoples lawns, draw swasticas on the cars and doors of jewish families, call the cops on every black person i see doing anything, and beat gay people to death
no big deal lol
who cares if people are offended
i am just going to go burn crosses on peoples lawns, draw swasticas on the cars and doors of jewish families, call the cops on every black person i see doing anything, and beat gay people to death
no big deal lol
who cares if people are offended
i am just going to go burn crosses on peoples lawns, draw swasticas on the cars and doors of jewish families, call the cops on every black person i see doing anything, and beat gay people to death
no big deal lol
I sometimes get reports from some spotters about people like this.
I log in, connect, mute them, disconnect and go about my daily business IRL.
People who discriminate (and mean it) do not deserve to right to speech in my opinion.
Well, as long as you think you have a moral highground on everyone frank. Limiting free speech because YOU think something is wrong is ignorant as fuck.
So there's a user that chose "rainbow" as nickname, complaining about the abusive use of the word "my old friend" ingame ?
Tbh, the word has less to do with homosexuality than with a cowardly behaviour.
Sounds much like the arguments Redditors were making, in that freedom of speech gave them the right to post child pornography on Reddit and it was fascism to expect their administrators to actually.. remove child porn. Let alone report them to the FBI like they should. Not surprised that you are on the side of hate crime and kiddie porn though.
Maybe you have some other links to unfunny white trash comedians to post your talking points for you?
But I thought I had the freedom of speech to say anything? Except.. what offends you?
Sigh... if someone calls you a my old friend it's not his intention to offend gay people, most of the time people are not even serious if they say that. Really, if you kill someone in a "my old friendgy" way and he insults you in spec chat afterwards it should make you smile. :D
Sadly we're at a point where you get in trouble for using racial slurs but not for using the word my old friend. In my opinion, if you get in trouble for using racist words, then you should get in trouble for using that word also. Some admins use it too. CHAOS loves that word :PThe term my old friend is such a broad term and has several different meanings and feelings behind it, while most racial epithets do not. And steve hughes said it best, it really is subjective.
Sadly we're at a point where you get in trouble for using racial slurs but not for using the word my old friend. In my opinion, if you get in trouble for using racist words, then you should get in trouble for using that word also. Some admins use it too. CHAOS loves that word :P
This is the internet. People talk shit on the internet. If you start getting offended by things that people say on the internet then oh my Science you are fucking things up for yourself. You would not be able to read about 80 percent of the internet anymore without sending emails or making threads about getting offended all the time. Don't make it too hard on yourself.
As much as people may dislike it, at this point the word has assumed an entirely different use in internet culture than the original meaning may have had. When people call someone a my old friend, they don't generally mean it as a demeaning slur towards homosexuality in general. They usually mean that X person is being a coward/baddy/unintelligent for Y reason.
How is my old friend a bad term to use?
my old friend, a colloquialism for cigarette
my old friend, a junior boy who acts or acted as servant ("my old friendging") to a senior boy at a British independent school
I am unable to see the problem with the word.
The term my old friend is such a broad term and has several different meanings and feelings behind it, while most racial epithets do not. And steve hughes said it best, it really is subjective.
And there is no such thing as free speech on a gaming server, the owner of it has every right to regulate it in whatever way he wishes. If chadz wants to ban people for saying "pudding", there is nothing stopping him.
With that said, there is nothing stopping you from boycotting the server and seeking out other pudding-friendly alternatives.
If I start screen shotting these things is it a waste of time or will there be consequences?
girlfriend deciding to google you and finding out you have 1000+ posts on an internet horses mod forum, mostly of you trolling, then decides to break up with you over it.
Thank **** most of us use forum names instead of our real ones :P xD
Oops, sorry for double post :o
I believe calling someone things like "bundle of sticks" and "homo" should be bannable because if you can't come up with anything more creative to insult someone with you should be shown the door.
Every single one of us has a handy dandy mute button. Don't like what people are saying? Use it.You know what would make that handy dandy mute button more effective-making it so the person you muted stays muted until you choose to unmute said person,rather than those you have muted becoming unmuted everytime they or you relog/disconnect. :idea:
I know racism is a strict no-no; however, i'm curious if calling me a "my old friend" is a bannable offense. I've had multiple people go on and on about me being a my old friend and i've never really paid it any mind. If I start screen shotting these things is it a waste of time or will there be consequences? I'm always chill in games and know I don't deserve any of that silliness. Let me know.my old friend
I have ignored it for a long time on Warband and I just dont want to completley ignore the severe instances of homophobia anymore.What do you have against homophobes? Don't homophobes have the right to be themselves? That is very intolerant of you.
What do you have against homophobes? Don't homophobes have the right to be themselves? That is very intolerant of you.
It sounds to me like you are intolerant of intolerant people.lolz.
Most serious GFs will learn your gamer tags.
Too young to be living with a girl atm, thankfully :P
Pretty much this.
The word has evolved and the homosexual community does not have a lock on it. Similar to "What up mah niggah?".
The key is intent. That is open to interpretation.
It could be interpreted that by using the name "Rainbow" your intent is to garner troll harassment or insults against homosexuals.
One of my best friends died of AIDS a few years back. He used to get the shit kicked out of him growing up in Mississippi until he learned some Martial Arts and began fucking them up in return. I have a few ties to the gay community, including knowing someone who was at the Rainbow Lounge on THAT day. So I know from some direct sources about the harassment you can receive. I'm telling you this for context in what I am telling you now.
You won't change speech, but we can help you avoid being harassed. We will pursue and prevent those we find griefing other players from doing it. It is about the intent.
If you truly want to minimize the harassment though, I suggest you apply for a name change that doesn't invite (taunt?) the bigoted into attacking you personally.
The level of cognitive dissonance and privilege in this thread is astounding.
In this thread: Watch people defend calling others my old friends as an insult (but it's not about gays) the same way some of their grandfathers defended calling lazy workers friends (well obviously i don't mean he's black, no offense)!
The only time it ever works is when used on a homophobic person...
A gay person being called "gay" should be as offensive as calling a white person "white".
Okay, the only time it should work is when used on a homophobic person.
race is not under anyone's control. A black person being called "friend" should be as offensive as calling a white person "cracker". The only reason a black person would take offense is if they themselves believe it is shameful to be black, which is ridiculous but sadly true in some cases due to our shitty racist society.
yes its the bundle of stickss fault if they don't like being called a bundle of sticks
bundle of sticks, often shortened to my old friend, is a pejorative term and common slur used chiefly in North America against homosexual males. Its pejorative use, broadly meaning a "repellent male" has spread from the United States to varying extents elsewhere in the English-speaking world through mass culture, including movies, music, and the Internet.
Considering it is a slur, I don't understand your thinking on this. So with this logic, it is the problem of a black person if I call them a friend and they take offense, or a Hispanic person a spic? I honestly would like your reasoning on this distinction, or a correction for me.
Considering it is a slur, I don't understand your thinking on this. So with this logic, it is the problem of a black person if I call them a friend and they take offense, or a Hispanic person a spic? I honestly would like your reasoning on this distinction, or a correction for me.Whoa whoa, last I checked you weren't black, which means that's racist sir!!!! :p
Considering it is a slur, I don't understand your thinking on this. So with this logic, it is the problem of a black person if I call them a friend and they take offense, or a Hispanic person a spic? I honestly would like your reasoning on this distinction, or a correction for me.
Such witty arguments and retorts, but let's say Rainbow killed himself and his mother decided it was over the harassment by various individuals playing this game and belonging to these forums. You might brush up on how you might be prosecuted. Especially as the LGBT community coalesces around a chance to snuff out yet another remaining form of harassment against them. You don't even need to be convicted for your life to made into a hellish nightmare as you try to defend yourself. This law review discusses what was on the books 3 years ago. I'm certain that many more states, not to mention the feds, have "caught up" to the 20 listed here.
I doubt that you would find explaining to a judge how Rainbow was to blame for being offended by the cyberbullying nearly as amusing. Your opinions don't seem to be keeping pace with the laws being created. Sure, you would probably win as things stand now. But would you want to have to?
http://www.vanderbiltlawreview.org/articles/2010/05/King-Constitutionality-of-Cyberbullying-Laws-63-Vand.-L.-Rev.-845-2010.pdf (http://www.vanderbiltlawreview.org/articles/2010/05/King-Constitutionality-of-Cyberbullying-Laws-63-Vand.-L.-Rev.-845-2010.pdf)
The isolated example of video game server chat is one thing, and I agree anything said in a videogame should be taken with a grain of salt but even in this very game/community there have been multiple instances of people tracking down facebook/whatever else information and crossing the line into real life harassment, which we punish as harshly as we can (permaban from game and forums) without it becoming a legal issue
But you better believe if something went too far such as what turns from forum trolling into tracking down screennames, facebooks, addresses, phone numbers, etc and bigoted shit starts there, some people are susceptible to the anxiety and stress this "lol its just trolling" can cause (not necessarily to the point of suicide, but to the point that its malicious and damaging) and that is very much a crime
people think they are protected and able to lose all pretence of civility when in an online environment, as if all social norms and regulatory behaviour is thrown out the window, and to an extent that is true, in that as long as we protect our anonymity
Such witty arguments and retorts, but let's say Rainbow killed himself and his mother decided it was over the harassment by various individuals playing this game and belonging to these forums...
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Natural selection. And I'm not even trying to be funny.
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This isn't about saying bundle of sticks, and the OP already said that. It is about turning it into a personal vendetta and attack. And yes, we have already had players tracking people down and using real life information to troll and harass them.1+!
Joke all you want, but you start fucking with people's real life and you deserve every bit of shitstorm that comes at you.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, its time to pause and reflect. -Mark Twain
Just let it die. I don't think you need to be all up in people's faces about it either, just like I don't appreciate christians being all up in my face about their issues. You can be gay, you can be christian. The rest of us don't give a fuck and wish you would keep it to yourselves.
I know racism is a strict no-no; however, i'm curious if calling me a "my old friend" is a bannable offense. I've had multiple people go on and on about me being a my old friend and i've never really paid it any mind. If I start screen shotting these things is it a waste of time or will there be consequences? I'm always chill in games and know I don't deserve any of that silliness. Let me know.
I'll be sure to pass that forward every time somebody mentions anything about there girlfriend or who they are sleeping with or how hot Pamela Anderson is. I don't talk about this in vent nor do I talk about it in game. I made a post to see what I could get away with using the "i" chat. You chose to read this thread and now you are upset it has been "thrown in your face". Lol.O so high and mighty of you!
You can't expect the world to be a sterile environment - it never was one, isn't one now and shouldn't ever be such. Attempting to live in a sterile environment is unhealthy, it weakens your resistance. If anything, the world should be less sterile.
The amount of "dirt" has to be limited, but never eliminated. If what you get in cRPG is too much for you - get tougher, it'll only benefit you. my old friend.
+1Both too true. There's a mute button if you're so pathetically insecure that you let random people from the internet affect you with their opinions.
Anybody who would harm themselves over a comment some anon said in a video game chat box is completely retarded and the human race would be much better off without them. Words are just words. Grow up.
There's this quick easy fix for this, it's called use the mute button and stop QQing.
Seriously if you're actually getting upset over what people are calling you in a game then you have some serious issues, your life must suck.
As I said though, quick fix to this is stop being stupid and lazy and just use your handy little mute option on these persons.
K thanks
I'll be sure to pass that forward every time somebody mentions anything about there girlfriend or who they are sleeping with or how hot Pamela Anderson is. I don't talk about this in vent nor do I talk about it in game. I made a post to see what I could get away with using the "i" chat. You chose to read this thread and now you are upset it has been "thrown in your face". Lol.
You're a fool. I'm the primary person in this thread stickin up for your right to avoid personal harrassment. What I now interpret is that you are trolling people to get those responses. Have fun trying to get a response from me in the future. Don't bother using "i" chat. Post up your "evidence" and I'll take into consideration that you are a troll and doing what you can to evoke those responses. You'll have to prove that it is "personal" and that you didn't do anything "personally" to elicit the response. That's going to be a tough sell after your responses in this thread.
Have fun.
P.S. - I don't think you are gay.
There's this quick easy fix for this, it's called use the mute button and stop QQing.
Seriously if you're actually getting upset over what people are calling you in a game then you have some serious issues, your life must suck.
Lmao at this fat fucking piece of useless shit. Who the fuck are you? You're literally just some lard ass who thinks he's "somebody" in this mod for some reason. OMFG you can manage to maintain some 2-1 KD in battle as a lancer #easymode. And smoothfatfuck aren't you part of LLJK? Last time I checked that clan is literally home to 90% of the trolls in CRPG. Congrats you worthless, obese waste of space. Instead of sitting your fat ass trolling around on the forums, how about you go run some fucking laps down in your parents basement where we all know your stupid ass resides.
show LOVEThats why you always kick and stab me you bastard!?1
Committing crimes and calling you a bundle of sticks are completely different. You should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)
I suppose we're not allowed to be racist. Is it offensive? People are offended by different things. This guy is offended by people calling him a my old friend and using gay terms sarcastically and maliciously. I get offended when people diss on Christianity which is what I believe in. You either allow ALL offensive things or allow NONE of it. And it's not going to be fun with none of it.
You either allow ALL offensive things or allow NONE of it. And it's not going to be fun with none of it.
You either allow ALL offensive things or allow NONE of it.
On the other hand people should be thick skinned and understand the concept of good-natured ribbing. If you take offense to somebody who did not intent harm then YOU are the one at fault. Common sense aint so damn common.
Agreed 100%. This is a pointless thread. "Omg he called me a bundle of sticks". So what, are you gay? If not, why care what some one on the interwebz thinks of you? Even if you are gay, which is completely fine. You should know that sooner or later you will come across small minded individuals that can't accept diversity and therefore you should also know that people like that don't deserve the time of day for your attention or anyone else for that matter. It's just words composed of pixels on a screen for you to visually interpret, so it's up to you how you take it. For my 2 cents, fuck 'em. They don't know you or anything about you, why get so riled over the fact of some trash talk? Just ram your sword down their throat and give them the casual "GG bundle of sticks"