Wololo... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukgxZ8pEApo)
Cant get enough of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg_n7U2yI-I&feature=related)
I bet that this thread is made by a ranged player. Archer?(click to show/hide)
Well, I guess you can call this game a beta. So, many things are wrong of course right now. The only thing I'd complain about is not the massive lobbying, but rather the fact that devs actually seem to give a fuck about the QQ. And im not talking about constructive criticism.
What some people want to forget, is that the fact that 2h and cav complain about ranged would only be "normal", that is, not worthy of the dev attention, if and only if range complained about their own "counter". Atm I don't see a wide consensus among ranged players that say... shields, should be nerfed.
In other words, if there was not balance problem, then either everybody would be lobbying, or everybody would be fine. There is an imbalance in lobbyism, which quite clearly shows that something is wrong.
No the problem is that Devs dont play the game themselves for a long time now and that they listen to their "circle of thrusted" people and take little or no regard of what community is saying.
To me, the problem seems to be that a lot of players choose one play style... and then never switch it up. I'm sure we can all think of people who have been 2h for over a year, without variation. When that playstyle gets messed with, even indirectly, these people blow up the forums with complaints. A perfect example of this; Kesh and every change in archery over the last year.
Another great example; the massive amount of QQing over the removal of hilt-slashing with 2h swords. The 2h sword animations have always been superior in reach and speed. But, when there was an effort to balance them with other weapon types with a nerf to the right swing speed there was an incredible amount of lobbying by all the try hard 2h heroes. Even though this "nerf" brought them into balance; there was enough biased lobbying that the developers reverted it.
If, over the year plus I've been playing, I had only played one playstyle and it was messed with; I'd be a raging on the forums as well. Fortunately, I get bored really easy and I like to experiment. I've tried almost every play style within every class possible. This may have given me a less biased point of view.
Some people just aren't happy unless their preferred playstyle is the ultimate playstyle.
Solution?
Force people to play a gen as the class they most complain about! :D
Personally, I'm tired of hearing people complain about cavmy old friends, and archermy old friends, and xbowmy old friends, and pikemy old friends, and horsexbowmy old friends... as if grinding out a MW longsword, going 21/18, being capable of blocking, and spamming your superior animations is the pinnacle of skill in this game. But whatever, the balance in this game just gets better and better. More and more content is added all the time. Let the scoffers scoff and be damned, as long as the game keeps improving like it is.
I dont think any archer thinks that shields that give anti-ranged-godmode is balanced in any way. But as 90% of mad kids seem to play 2h or other melee classes a constructive discussion will never take place on that matter. Threads will be flooded by retards who only can recognize the moments they fought these "10 PD, 10 Ath, over 9000 WPF" archers that can oneshot and kite 10 shielders at once. There is simply no point in starting a conversation about this. I mean even in Meows opinion it would be appropriate that melees would play at least one gen as an archer so they will at least get the basics there, which they are obviously lacking.The funny thing is that Archers really get powerful if they loom. its like 6 heirlooms boosting damage.
All we can do is wait and hope that devs will test what they patched into the game themselfes, which I cannot imagine when a patch lead to archers needing 10+ arrows to kill a guy in the past.
This is, at least my reason to not open rage threads. I dunno though why other range players dont rage as much in general.
That would explain things ...
The funny thing is that Archers really get powerful if they loom. its like 6 heirlooms boosting damage.
To see the real power an archer can have you would need to play with looms.
Right of course, yet there is still nothing a +6 archer can do against a shielder but run.
You've never seen a good archer? Good archers tend to wait for the shielder, spin around and shoot him in the side before the shield bumps him, just saying.
You've never seen a good archer? Good archers tend to wait for the shielder, spin around and shoot him in the side before the shield bumps him, just saying.
I dont think any archer thinks that shields that give anti-ranged-godmode is balanced in any way. But as 90% of mad kids seem to play 2h or other melee classes a constructive discussion will never take place on that matter. Threads will be flooded by retards who only can recognize the moments they fought these "10 PD, 10 Ath, over 9000 WPF" archers that can oneshot and kite 10 shielders at once. There is simply no point in starting a conversation about this. I mean even in Meows opinion it would be appropriate that melees would play at least one gen as an archer so they will at least get the basics there, which they are obviously lacking.
All we can do is wait and hope that devs will test what they patched into the game themselfes, which I cannot imagine when a patch lead to archers needing 10+ arrows to kill a guy in the past.
This is, at least my reason to not open rage threads. I dunno though why other range players dont rage as much in general.
That would explain things ...
That's not good archers, that's lame archers who take advantage of game mechanics, and can't kill at range, so they need to shotgun.
I'll never respect thoses kind of archers.
So your point is that there is some kind of law of nature that says the humans behind melee chars are simply more childish/less able to construct an objective argument than those that play range ? I don't think we need to go further then.
Hehe, of course I dont think there is some law forcing these people to do so. That would be silly.
But as 90% of mad kids seem to play 2h or other melee classes a constructive discussion will never take place on that matter.
That 2H killed you, OP.
Paularms:
- paulstagger
- insta-stab
Of course not. If 2H players kills me that usually means he's better player than me.
Other classes have special abilities:
Paularms:
- paulstagger
- insta-stab
Lancer:
- press-X-to-win
- bump-stab
- bumping
1Hcav:
- bump-slash
- phantom-reach
- bumping
1H:
- autoblock
- spamitar, niuwedao
- spammy agi builds using buckler
Archery:
- run-like-a-wind
- shotgunning
Xbow:
- camping
HA:
- annoying
Twohanded weapons (apart from smelly CT ones) are pure way of fighting, there are no shortcuts. Every other class has that certain build which will allows a complete idiot to be efficient in this mod. That's what bothers me. I don't mind people like you, Jackie, Bagge and others who I know are very skilled at everything. Problem are complete noobs who get kills because they figured out some stupid build or abuse certain "tricks". That's very MMORPG (WoW) like and it has nothing to do with this game which is very skill rewarding.
And funny how you takl about polestagger when you get almost the same effect stacking agi and spamming left/right with 2h (sound familiar?)
I have serious lag issues (jitter) and in order to fix that I would have to change my internet installations for which I have no time. So in last 8 years or so I'm playing online games on crippled internet connection.
I don't get it, you get more money/exp for winning rounds, not getting kills, why are you all complaining about not being able to kill someone in big battles?e-peen
And believe me fixing internet here where I live is pain in the ass.Well probably if you summarise all the "pain in the ass" you've suffered because of your shitty connection it would be a lot more pain than from one-time effort to fix your internet.
Well probably if you summarise all the "pain in the ass" you've suffered because of your shitty connection it would be a lot more pain than from one-time effort to fix your internet.
I'm casual player
Hahahahaha
Back on topic! :mrgreen:
Hahahahaha
Back on topic! :mrgreen:
If that really bothers you reset my XP to 8 mil, I truly do not care about it.Have you really thought about it, knowing the devs around here?
You grind this game like a champ and have "no time" for something?
Impressive.
Hahahahaha
Back on topic! :mrgreen:
Tbh, I find this quite disrespectful. Be nice Meow. :(
You're the most biased and ignorant person in the world. :lol:
- can't be arsed to put on my headset and talk on TS/VentYou should try it, its definitely not hardcore :lol:
:rolleyes:(click to show/hide)
I still consider my self new to this game but it's pretty obvious when you duel someone who is mature and who is not..Me and saul would duel you and we were soooo confused by you. You were doing chambering practice obviously, but since you were using 1 wpf pole arms, you were soo slow. I mean, if you had really good timing and footwork you could have still pulled it off, but it was so awkward.
and i dont mean shit talking... i mean the style of their combat.
The other day i was dueling this pole spam dude and i have zero wpf in polearm but have been using one this whole gen and i was getting raped, one hit left and i die... then something came over me, i saw he was just spamming a left attack and i was giving him way too much credit... I said aloud "fuck this child" and dodged his attack and two overhead stabs and he died...
Saw other spammers, who must have been kids who realized they get kills by spamming one direction attacks, get raped by more professional players, like CHAOS members.
All in all..... there is historical proof that 2h is OP,
"The slain piled up around the flailing battle-ax of the King, who with his helmet knocked off was bleeding from two woundson his face. "
na: the toddler league
Rather they should be adjusting their play style to fit the game mechanics.
So everyone should become an archer? Make the game with the best medieval melee combat system into a crappy version of medieval Counter Strike?he is a melee player.
So everyone should become an archer? Make the game with the best medieval melee combat system into a crappy version of medieval Counter Strike?
I dare you to name a game that has better bow and arrow combat.
Skyrim?
RotMG has better archery gameplay than both Warband and Skyrim.When will people ever learn to stop using abbreviations on things that are obscure as shit?
Skyrim?
When will people ever learn to stop using abbreviations on things that are obscure as shit?
Actually, my sentence does make sense even if you don't know what RotMG is (http://www.realmofthemadgod.com/). You can just understand it as *any-game-that-has-archery-gameplay*
wait wait wait
you are saying that any game has better archery gameplay than CRPG M&B? So you are saying that the archery gameplay here sucks? That's pretty ignorant, I think. This game has realistic bows and arrowheads, semi-realistic arrow flight speed, flight arch, and freaking air resistance. the arrows stick out of the body part that you hit (not all games have this) and a pretty realistic damage model. Even the sounds are good. The archery gameply in crpg m&b is challenging, dynamic, and FUN.
I know all this and I only played a half-gen of archer. The runner up for best medieval archer combat in a game is Theif...and that game is old as hell and archery is a pretty minor part of it. I do archery regularly in real life, and I'm telling you...CRPG takes the cake man.
However, i heard there was some half-life mod with medieval combat that was supposedly pretty good. Never played that though.
Let's start complaining, shall we.Meanwhile the melee server is 100% melee q_q
Currently of EU4 75% of players are archers.
At the same time on EU1 50% players are cav.
q_q
You must understand that this is not just a game with the best medieval melee combat system. It is ALSO a game with the best medieval archery combat system! I dare you to name a game that has better bow and arrow combat.