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cRPG => Game Admin Feedback => Topic started by: EyeBeat on January 17, 2012, 06:03:09 am

Title: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on January 17, 2012, 06:03:09 am
Here is my admin thread.

If I ever have to actually ban someone.  I will try my hardest to update this thread with full reasoning why the banning took place in order to differ myself from other admins.

Most of you will be kicked several times before that actually happens.  This is the same way I admined on the ScotTFO server and the LLJK server back in the day.  So nothing has changed.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on January 27, 2012, 12:26:22 pm
Good to see were getting more NA admins

You ever going to place a poll up?
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Darkkarma on January 28, 2012, 10:47:12 am
Glad to see you be at least a little proactive by making your own feedback thread, eyebeat. Good luck!
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: isatis on January 28, 2012, 08:50:01 pm
Eyebeat (not that aweful eyebeatwomen) is very mature

gotta love his admin!

(or be banned else)

only good comment so far! you pro!

Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Rikthor on January 29, 2012, 08:47:43 pm
Confirmed sperg and scoreboard.jpg poster. -1
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 29, 2012, 09:03:24 pm
Needs more poll.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Smoothrich on January 30, 2012, 08:56:19 am
eyebeat if anything has way too much pole in him
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Darkkarma on January 30, 2012, 08:59:49 am
We have the same problem with Eutheran in Chaos, smooth.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on January 31, 2012, 10:09:13 am
I think i have to delete this to put up a poll.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: [ptx] on January 31, 2012, 10:14:17 am
No, you should be able to add a poll to this.

-edit: above your own OP, a button to the right - Add poll
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on January 31, 2012, 02:29:15 pm
No, you should be able to add a poll to this.

-edit: above your own OP, a button to the right - Add poll
Ah there it is!
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: PieParadox on February 01, 2012, 06:13:38 am
WOOOO EYEBEAT IS ADMINS
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: AreTreble on February 29, 2012, 02:29:29 am
EyeBeat kicked me from the server today. The reason was that I did not apologize to him after he reported me for teamwounding (I said, facetiously that I wasn't sorry). Is this a new server rule? I thought this was why the reporting system was put in place.

The tw was blantantly accidental and not only was I reported but one round later Eyebeat kicked me from the server. I know I must have hurt his feelings, but I don't believe that warrants a kick from the server. I call foul play on this one, and I'd like a second opinion--ideally by a global admin.
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Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Dach on February 29, 2012, 02:59:45 am
Treble, I won't judge eyebeat on the reason you mentionned...

but, stating that your TW was intentionnal.... it's like reporting yourself to the police for the thing you just stole...  :rolleyes:

intentionnal TW is againt the rules, be glad you only got a kick for it.  :wink:
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: AreTreble on February 29, 2012, 04:00:18 am
Treble, I won't judge eyebeat on the reason you mentionned...

but, stating that your TW was intentionnal.... it's like reporting yourself to the police for the thing you just stole...  :rolleyes:

intentionnal TW is againt the rules, be glad you only got a kick for it.  :wink:

The reason for the kick was because, and I quote EyeBeat: "No reason to say you are not sorry for tking someone" (i.e. being a mean face). The admin knows the tk was not intentional which is why my quip was very clearly facetious. Its more like having the police arrest you for not being polite to them after they already ticketed you.

Your comment would be applicable had the tw actually been intentional, but as I stated earlier, it was Very clearly an accident and not the cause of the kick.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: Smoothrich on February 29, 2012, 05:17:10 am
He didn't mean for not apologizing, but for teamkilling and then going NOT EVEN SORRY, HEH, PUBTRASH, IT WAS INTENTIONAL which is basically trolling and sort of admitting to doing it intentionally.

I know you didn't and I understand the circumstances that made you do the quip but you were only kicked so I think it can be chalked up to miscommunication.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on February 29, 2012, 02:24:56 pm
If I actually went on chat and bitched about it and made a big deal about it I probably would of not of kicked you after you said that.

There really is no reason to TW someone or get them killed while they are attacking someone else and claim that it was on purpose without provocation. 

Next time just say nothing at all.  It was pretty obvious you were just trying to stir the pot.

Here is a screenshot of what happened.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/505765945403669908/AB406CD4F5E4F69DCABA8615C3285AA100B52B22/

You got kicked and we were both at 1x.   :rolleyes:

Your comment would be applicable had the tw actually been intentional, but as I stated earlier, it was Very clearly an accident and not the cause of the kick.

Also no it was not very clear at all.  I was not looking at you when you tked me.  I was focusing on the enemy.
Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: AreTreble on February 29, 2012, 06:11:21 pm
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There really is no reason to TW someone or get them killed while they are attacking someone else and claim that it was on purpose without provocation. 

I suppose if admins took half the things people said in general chat seriously, there would be many more kicks happening. But they don't, unless it has to do with them. The provocation was being reported for intentional tw'ing when I thought it was obvious that it was not because we were fighting together against one enemy. I was mistaken. Clearly Eyebeat thought I intentionally teamwounded him while we were fighting the enemy (it was unfortunate that he died in one hit).


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Also no it was not very clear at all.  I was not looking at you when you tked me.  I was focusing on the enemy.
I suppose since you truly believe I tk'ed you on purpose with one teamwound hit while we both fought together against one enemy, then your kick is justified. (Even though you already reported the TW using the report system)


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You got kicked and we were both at 1x.
I had a x2 from valour (ironic).

tl;dr
guy accidentally wounds teammate while they fight a common enemy. said teammate dies from one friendly-hit and reports guy for team wounding.
guy, having already received punishment where due for his mistake, expresses self with a comment to show his disdain for the fallen teammates retaliation.
teammate kicks guy from server.

Title: Re: [NA] LLJK_EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on March 01, 2012, 12:48:07 am
expresses self with a comment to show his disdain for the fallen teammates retaliation.

Correct.  I would hope you wouldn't do that to anyone.  Not just admins.
Title: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: Orbas on March 26, 2012, 10:59:46 am
Hello fellow players, gather around and listen to a tale of immature and slacking admin abuse.  It was a dark night, early in the morn.  I was angry at the fact I had been poll abused for no reason, yet listing a ban request went unheard.  Then to jump on to a battle server to find out my team was incompetent, I burst out with an outrage of explicits.  Not directed towards any one, or any clan, just my team, angry at them for allowing ourselves to be beat so bad and not even an outrage, just a one liner of anger.  Seconds later I was muted by Eyebeat_Women, oh excuse me, Eyebeat_TheWanderer *i guess eyebeatwomen wasnt appropriate for an admin, who woulda thunk?*.  He then said the next round that it was a warning and I should take caution of my actions.  A warning for what you might ask?  I do not know myself.  A warning for using harsh language?  If that was the case why is the entire CRPG community not muted and warned for their terrible language?  Not only did he not mute me, but  fellow archer, Warkittenz.  When Warkittenz passed on a generous message for me, asking Eyebeat to unmute me and place his lips upon thy sheathed sword.  Does that warrant a mute also?  Since he was passing on a message for me since I was muted round after round?  The map changed, I tried to speak, but I couldn't.   It appears that the admin so responsible of muting me for unrighteous causes in the first place had gone AFK, and there was no way to ask for forgiveness, so I had to forfeit my x5 *and i know you all hate that* and rejoin the server to ask him why he craved so much unsheathed wood upon his rectum but alas, he did not answer me, for he was still AFK giving his fingers deep upon the womb that so gave him birth.  So I question!  I question why such rights have been bestowed upon such a foolish boy who cares not for what he can do for you, but for what he can punish you for, no matter how minute or insignificant it may be. I wish you take time to head my words and seek justice for what wrong has been done.

  *let me wrap this up in Layman's terms,  I know all you admins ride eachothers cocks to the point you chaff, but for real, get off the D bro, and if infact, i think Eyebeat just wants an excuse to explore his bundle of sticksry aka "admin rights" on me me since i have pwnd him so many times when others couldnt, but i guess Eyejustbeathimtogood and he couldnt take it anymore so as soon as he THOUGHT he had a right to use admin powers on me, he did.  But he was wrong.  Search your souls, and god damnit, if this shit aint wrong, ill rape you all and call it a day.  Sleep tight community, for i love you deeply!*
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ammeron on March 26, 2012, 11:14:58 am
agreed, eyebeat is honestly just a hot headed nerd, hes typically a pretty good admin but if someone pisses him off personally *nothing to do with in game rules i might add* he treats them totally unfair out of nerd rage.  or maybe his fingers are still wet from his mothers uterus so he slipped and accidently muted me, i guess we'll never know.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 26, 2012, 11:17:22 am
agreed, eyebeat is honestly just a hot headed nerd, hes typically a pretty good admin but if someone pisses him off personally *nothing to do with in game rules i might add* he treats them totally unfair out of nerd rage.  or maybe his fingers are still wet from his mothers uterus so he slipped and accidently muted me, i guess we'll never know.

agreed, see: him trying to get me permabanned because of reasons not related to in game (yeah try and say that it was for another reason how ever much you want nerd but everyone knows otherwise)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Orbas on March 26, 2012, 11:27:59 am
agreed, see: him trying to get me permabanned because of reasons not related to in game (yeah try and say that it was for another reason how ever much you want nerd but everyone knows otherwise)

I love you BADPLAYER, do not let my injustice go in vain
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Kreczor on March 26, 2012, 02:48:48 pm
agreed, see: him trying to get me permabanned because of reasons not related to in game (yeah try and say that it was for another reason how ever much you want nerd but everyone knows otherwise)
You know, I kind of liked eyebeat before he went power crazy. Before he became admin. Before he posted on our SA thread about how I should stop playing this game. He's an asshole. A blatant jerk.
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Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: EyeBeat on March 26, 2012, 10:09:15 pm
Hello fellow players, gather around and listen to a tale of immature and slacking admin abuse.  It was a dark night, early in the morn.  I was angry at the fact I had been poll abused for no reason, yet listing a ban request went unheard.  Then to jump on to a battle server to find out my team was incompetent, I burst out with an outrage of explicits.  Not directed towards any one, or any clan, just my team, angry at them for allowing ourselves to be beat so bad and not even an outrage, just a one liner of anger.  Seconds later I was muted by Eyebeat_Women, oh excuse me, Eyebeat_TheWanderer *i guess eyebeatwomen wasnt appropriate for an admin, who woulda thunk?*.  He then said the next round that it was a warning and I should take caution of my actions.  A warning for what you might ask?  I do not know myself.  A warning for using harsh language?  If that was the case why is the entire CRPG community not muted and warned for their terrible language?  Not only did he not mute me, but  fellow archer, Warkittenz.  When Warkittenz passed on a generous message for me, asking Eyebeat to unmute me and place his lips upon thy sheathed sword.  Does that warrant a mute also?  Since he was passing on a message for me since I was muted round after round?  The map changed, I tried to speak, but I couldn't.   It appears that the admin so responsible of muting me for unrighteous causes in the first place had gone AFK, and there was no way to ask for forgiveness, so I had to forfeit my x5 *and i know you all hate that* and rejoin the server to ask him why he craved so much unsheathed wood upon his rectum but alas, he did not answer me, for he was still AFK giving his fingers deep upon the womb that so gave him birth.  So I question!  I question why such rights have been bestowed upon such a foolish boy who cares not for what he can do for you, but for what he can punish you for, no matter how minute or insignificant it may be. I wish you take time to head my words and seek justice for what wrong has been done.

  *let me wrap this up in Layman's terms,  I know all you admins ride eachothers cocks to the point you chaff, but for real, get off the D bro, and if infact, i think Eyebeat just wants an excuse to explore his bundle of sticksry aka "admin rights" on me me since i have pwnd him so many times when others couldnt, but i guess Eyejustbeathimtogood and he couldnt take it anymore so as soon as he THOUGHT he had a right to use admin powers on me, he did.  But he was wrong.  Search your souls, and god damnit, if this shit aint wrong, ill rape you all and call it a day.  Sleep tight community, for i love you deeply!*

The initial mute was for racist remarks made by martian.  And here is a screen shot of warkittens politely asking me to unmute you.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577825802895346424/33277E6DBE8C3F339BD5A3A4D8E4CAFFA3D5592F/

Neither of you got kicked or banned.  Just muted.

Also good thing I didn't catch you mute dodging.  I went to go watch Spartacus instead  :P.

agreed, see: him trying to get me permabanned because of reasons not related to in game (yeah try and say that it was for another reason how ever much you want nerd but everyone knows otherwise)

Nah you just get banned and unbanned super fast all the time.  Maybe now you will stop playing like an asshole since you know the next one is going to count.

How is hacking other peoples accounts and stealing looms not related to the game?\

You know, I kind of liked eyebeat before he went power crazy. Before he became admin. Before he posted on our SA thread about how I should stop playing this game. He's an asshole. A blatant jerk.
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Thanks for the feedback.  I will try to improve.  Despite your personal attacks on me on the said forum.
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 26, 2012, 10:14:32 pm
How is hacking other peoples accounts and stealing looms not related to the game?

Badplayer was hacking and stealing looms, what now? Suddenly my level of caring has increased...
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: EyeBeat on March 26, 2012, 10:15:50 pm
Badplayer was hacking and stealing looms, what now? Suddenly my level of caring has increased...

Badplayer = Hellowrold.

Everyone knows this.
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: Kreczor on March 26, 2012, 10:24:07 pm
Thanks for the feedback.  I will try to improve.  Despite your personal attacks on me on the said forum.
I don't recall this at all. If I did you know I'm sorry, I don't mean shit like that :(
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Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: ammeron on March 26, 2012, 10:26:00 pm
And here is a screen shot of warkittens politely asking me to unmute you.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577825802895346424/33277E6DBE8C3F339BD5A3A4D8E4CAFFA3D5592F/


i felt it was as polite as the situation warranted.
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: Orbas on March 26, 2012, 10:41:41 pm
The initial mute was for racist remarks made by martian.

Racist remarks?  My ass!  Funny you have a picture of Kittenz asking for an unmute from me but you have no picture of "racist remarks" you claim I made.  Also, I was told that mutes were automatically dropped when the map changed.  I assumed you were muting me for an entire map as my "warning" so when the map changed and I was still muted I left and came back.  A warning is usually "Hey guys, knock it off, next time its a mute"... in my book at least.  Not just go ahead and flex an e-peen and not even say why, then leave to go play with your tally whacker.  I checked out the picture, and I see you threatening a ban, so the chain of power goes, warning or in this case, mute, to ban?   No kicks or nothing?  Whats also kinda funny that you cant see in that picture is that you didn't mute Kittenz until AFTER he said "that was from Martian btw" so it looked to us like you only muted him because he was speaking on my behalf, not because of what he said for me.
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: BADPLAYERold on March 26, 2012, 10:56:24 pm
Nah you just get banned and unbanned super fast all the time.  Maybe now you will stop playing like an asshole since you know the next one is going to count.

How is hacking other peoples accounts and stealing looms not related to the game?\

lol sure bro thats the reason right, like I said everyone knows the reason you tried to get me banned again is cause you are angry about things I said to you previously not related to cRPG. sad that you take personal grudges so far but can't say i'm surprised really, once a mad nerd always a mad nerd.

Badplayer was hacking and stealing looms, what now? Suddenly my level of caring has increased...

badplayer is hellowrold

get with the times bro.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Digglez on March 27, 2012, 08:09:39 am
I ran over a raccoon today.  If he was wearing a headbandage or one of those cones I would have thought of Eyebeat
Title: Re: Eyebeat Needs Removal
Post by: EyeBeat on March 27, 2012, 12:58:27 pm
Racist remarks?  My ass!  Funny you have a picture of Kittenz asking for an unmute from me but you have no picture of "racist remarks" you claim I made.  Also, I was told that mutes were automatically dropped when the map changed.  I assumed you were muting me for an entire map as my "warning" so when the map changed and I was still muted I left and came back.  A warning is usually "Hey guys, knock it off, next time its a mute"... in my book at least.  Not just go ahead and flex an e-peen and not even say why, then leave to go play with your tally whacker.  I checked out the picture, and I see you threatening a ban, so the chain of power goes, warning or in this case, mute, to ban?   No kicks or nothing?  Whats also kinda funny that you cant see in that picture is that you didn't mute Kittenz until AFTER he said "that was from Martian btw" so it looked to us like you only muted him because he was speaking on my behalf, not because of what he said for me.

You sound upset.  Tell me more about it.

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lol sure bro thats the reason right, like I said everyone knows the reason you tried to get me banned again is cause you are angry about things I said to you previously not related to cRPG. sad that you take personal grudges so far but can't say i'm surprised really, once a mad nerd always a mad nerd.

Elaborate more.  I don't understand.  I am just trying to do my job.

I ran over a raccoon today.  If he was wearing a headbandage or one of those cones I would have thought of Eyebeat

Raccoons surprisingly enough are extremely hard to kill.  I had to drown one we caught because it wouldn't die from just beating/stabbing it.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Meow on March 27, 2012, 01:07:57 pm
lol sure bro thats the reason right, like I said everyone knows the reason you tried to get me banned again is cause you are angry about things I said to you previously not related to cRPG. sad that you take personal grudges so far but can't say i'm surprised really, once a mad nerd always a mad nerd.

get with the times bro.

I like how some people seem to think insulting makes them look cool.
Obviously people who accessed other people's accounts to steal heirlooms are walking on thin ice on their second key as well.
So no matter what the grudge is, having an eye on you seems like a good idea.
Calling him out for having other reasons to get you banned won't make you previous actions go away.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on March 27, 2012, 02:17:08 pm
Obviously people who accessed other people's accounts to steal heirlooms are walking on thin ice on their second key as well.

Not that it would really matter.  Dude has more time on his hands than anyone I know.  He will just buy a third key. 

Destroying the looms before they get traded would be a better solution.

I know if I was in this situation I would make damn sure I wouldn't intentionally tk and tw anymore. 
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Digglez on April 02, 2012, 08:33:11 am
Told you several times in admin chat that myself & clanmate were intentionally tk'd by xUndercoverCopx, who was up to 3/5 TW reports, and you didnt do anything.  His score was even -2 at the time on the scoreboard.

-1
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on April 02, 2012, 10:01:12 am
Told you several times in admin chat that myself & clanmate were intentionally tk'd by xUndercoverCopx, who was up to 3/5 TW reports, and you didnt do anything.  His score was even -2 at the time on the scoreboard.

-1

Oh well didn't see the messages I guess.  Sorry?
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ammeron on April 04, 2012, 06:59:14 am
well hes probably pretty used to me calling him a butthurt nerd, he even cares enough to make up nicknames for me, its so cute! :D so he probably just thought i was trolling him again, but then he found out it was from you and i was contributing to ur horendous racists remarks! "HEH" then action had to be taken! 

also i dont think someone who thinks this is funny should be an admin
http://uglytruthnews.com/2012/02/22/rihanna-and-chris-brown-together-again/

also i love u badplayer
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on April 05, 2012, 10:22:46 pm
well hes probably pretty used to me calling him a butthurt nerd, he even cares enough to make up nicknames for me, its so cute! :D so he probably just thought i was trolling him again, but then he found out it was from you and i was contributing to ur horendous racists remarks! "HEH" then action had to be taken! 

also i dont think someone who thinks this is funny should be an admin
http://uglytruthnews.com/2012/02/22/rihanna-and-chris-brown-together-again/

also i love u badplayer

I only gave you a nickname because I adore you.

I volunteered to be admin so I can make sure players like you can have a fair environment to play CRPG in. 

Together we can make this mod grow.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: FF_GeorgeWashington on April 09, 2012, 02:44:38 am
I only gave you a nickname because I adore you.

I volunteered to be admin so I can make sure players like you can have a fair environment to play CRPG in. 

Together we can make this mod grow.

I volunteer to take his place as admin.  I'm for the people, by the people, and of the people.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: obitus on April 09, 2012, 04:26:05 am
I volunteer to take his place as admin.  I'm for the people, by the people, and of the people.

Is that why you purposefully teamkilled SnSkank when he was 15 - 0 and told him to "eat shit and die"?
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ammeron on April 09, 2012, 07:51:57 am
Is that why you purposefully teamkilled SnSkank when he was 15 - 0 and told him to "eat shit and die"?

OH MY GOD 15-0?!?! HE RUINED HIS KD!!! THIS IS TREASON, HE SHALL BE HUNG FOR THIS!
oh and yes, george washington needs another term in office!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on April 09, 2012, 11:18:36 am
I volunteer to take his place as admin.  I'm for the people, by the people, and of the people.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on April 09, 2012, 11:34:23 am
visitors can't see pics , please register or login


Eyebeat glad I'm on your side :p
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: papageorgio on April 09, 2012, 11:26:32 pm
I volunteer to take his place as admin.  I'm for the people, by the people, and of the people.

Here is how GW's quote should have been. "I am for the tking of people, by me, and of the snitching on the people" Would have been a lot more truthful.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on April 10, 2012, 11:47:24 pm
Here the free bump :D now lets get a topic going on here
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ammeron on April 16, 2012, 12:41:05 pm
great story:
    So i was on my cav alt the other day playing on NA1.  Having fun rolling an x5, when i accidently bump eyebeat while hes fighting someone cuz i was trying to help him and kill them, but he whirls around so much with his elite spammitar that he ran to the opposite side and i hit him, nothing really happened he just reported me and raged about it as usual.   Few rounds later the round is basically over its like 10v1 and im searching for the last guy.  I was riding strait for him and then eyebeat who was in front of me, decides to juke to his right and make me run him over, and then he says i intentinally bumped him.  The next pass i make to try and kill the last guy eyebeat fucking swings his sword at my horse, literally in the open NOBODY around except us two, im on his team and he tries to tk me out of revenge. im sorry if i thing thats out of line but WHAT THE FUCK!??!?! if ur team wounded ur supposed to repoted it to an admin not revenge tw am i correct? and an ADMIN IS REVENGE TEAM WOUNDING? ARE U KIDDING ME?!  oh oh best part is yet to come, then i equip screen a guy and tk him at the end of the round, and he proceeds to kick me and then laugh about it when i relogg, god absolutely flawless eyebeat i dont know how you do it
+1 on my part for this admin
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on April 16, 2012, 12:43:06 pm
great story:
    So i was on my cav alt the other day playing on NA1.  Having fun rolling an x5, when i accidently bump eyebeat while hes fighting someone cuz i was trying to help him and kill them, but he whirls around so much with his elite spammitar that he ran to the opposite side and i hit him, nothing really happened he just reported me and raged about it as usual.   Few rounds later the round is basically over its like 10v1 and im searching for the last guy.  I was riding strait for him and then eyebeat who was in front of me, decides to juke to his right and make me run him over, and then he says i intentinally bumped him.  The next pass i make to try and kill the last guy eyebeat fucking swings his sword at my horse, literally in the open NOBODY around except us two, im on his team and he tries to tk me out of revenge. im sorry if i thing thats out of line but WHAT THE FUCK!??!?! if ur team wounded ur supposed to repoted it to an admin not revenge tw am i correct? and an ADMIN IS REVENGE TEAM WOUNDING? ARE U KIDDING ME?!  oh oh best part is yet to come, then i equip screen a guy and tk him at the end of the round, and he proceeds to kick me and then laugh about it when i relogg, god absolutely flawless eyebeat i dont know how you do it
+1 on my part for this admin

You're so mad.

Keep running me and others over on purpose and you will get kicked again.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Rainbow on April 17, 2012, 01:07:01 am
I dont like how eyebeat always chases me around all map trying to kill me stopping me from shooting his teamates.  I'm not sure if this is bannable or not but if it is make it so!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: TugBoat on May 02, 2012, 04:32:34 am
Eyebeat has a lot of "No"s on his thread. I find this interesting considering most mods have a majority of Yes's.

I'm sure Eyebeat is going to have his typical smart ass passive aggressive response to what I have to say instead of some real reasons, but this is my two cents and why I gave him a 'NO'.

I was on NA 1. I have a great record. No bans. No intentional TKs, no harassment, nothing.

This noob was getting beaten by two guys who were charging at him. I was attempting to help him by horse bump/slashing the guys chasing him. The guy unfortunately kept rotating out in front of me, causing me to bump him, and report me. I did this a couple of times, where he reported, and then I ran off deciding the guy didn't want help.

Eyebeat then said, "boatclan watch your teamwounding. This is your only warning."

I think that as an admin, your job is to enforce server rules and to do it in a mature fashion.

This morning I was intentionally TK'd twice. Dextaa was on and admin'ing, but due to the fact that he didn't see it nor did he have any proof, he was unable to do anything. That's fine.

I accidentally team wounded, not team killed, a guy on my team while trying my best to help him. Eyebeat did not witness this, and if he did it was obvious it was not intentional.

Rather than recognizing that it was an accident, which it was, or even rather than speaking in a mature fashion, he decided to throw his ePeen around and word it as rudely as possible.

IF he were doing his job correctly, he could have said nothing, or at the very MAXIMUM said "be careful of team wounds" instead of saying "last warning"

Saying last warning makes me think if I accidentally poke someone with a pitchfork and get reported this asshat is going to kick me. Someone needs to teach this dude how to admin correctly or remove his nerd raging ass. He's not active, and the majority of players feel he's doing a bad job. You have enough good admins to not need him.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 02, 2012, 10:43:35 am
Eyebeat has a lot of "No"s on his thread. I find this interesting considering most mods have a majority of Yes's.

I'm sure Eyebeat is going to have his typical smart ass passive aggressive response to what I have to say instead of some real reasons, but this is my two cents and why I gave him a 'NO'.

I was on NA 1. I have a great record. No bans. No intentional TKs, no harassment, nothing.

This noob was getting beaten by two guys who were charging at him. I was attempting to help him by horse bump/slashing the guys chasing him. The guy unfortunately kept rotating out in front of me, causing me to bump him, and report me. I did this a couple of times, where he reported, and then I ran off deciding the guy didn't want help.

Eyebeat then said, "boatclan watch your teamwounding. This is your only warning."

I think that as an admin, your job is to enforce server rules and to do it in a mature fashion.

This morning I was intentionally TK'd twice. Dextaa was on and admin'ing, but due to the fact that he didn't see it nor did he have any proof, he was unable to do anything. That's fine.

I accidentally team wounded, not team killed, a guy on my team while trying my best to help him. Eyebeat did not witness this, and if he did it was obvious it was not intentional.

Rather than recognizing that it was an accident, which it was, or even rather than speaking in a mature fashion, he decided to throw his ePeen around and word it as rudely as possible.

IF he were doing his job correctly, he could have said nothing, or at the very MAXIMUM said "be careful of team wounds" instead of saying "last warning"

Saying last warning makes me think if I accidentally poke someone with a pitchfork and get reported this asshat is going to kick me. Someone needs to teach this dude how to admin correctly or remove his nerd raging ass. He's not active, and the majority of players feel he's doing a bad job. You have enough good admins to not need him.

Take your hatred out on me
Make your victim my head
You never ever believed in me
I am your tourniquet
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MmfQ7gSaJgM#t=72s)

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Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: TugBoat on May 02, 2012, 08:36:37 pm
I did not call you gay. I would like to see some logs of that, actually.

Also I do not believe you got more than one complaint about team wounding. You could show me a screen shot or any logs of that too if you have it.

My problem is not with your verbal warning, but how you chose to give the warning.

My point is that the wounding was obviously not intentional, you did not witness it, and I am not someone who gets into trouble on any server, so you making your "warning" seem like a threat from an angry prepubescent nerd is the kind of thing that I did not like.

I also do not hate you, I just don't like how you handled the situation.

Anyways your admin feedback speaks for itself, I'm not going to argue any further since you seem more content to troll than take your job seriously.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 02, 2012, 09:24:17 pm
your admin feedback speaks for itself, I'm not going to argue any further since you seem more content to troll than take your job seriously.

You would act the same way if you were dealing with someone that complained so much about a verbal warning that was justified.  Not a kick.  Not a ban.  A verbal warning.

I kind of find it rediculous.  But at least it makes my day less boring.

All NA admins soon will have chat log access.  It will make my job even easier and hell I would probably be able to ban/kick more often.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: TugBoat on May 02, 2012, 09:37:19 pm
I'm not complaining about the warning, I'm complaining about how you said "last warning" as if I were a frequent offender that would be banned next time I accidentally wounded anyone. The wound was said in an asshole'ish manner over an accident, you're clearly an asshole nerd rager who shouldn't have the ability to kick or ban anyone, especially since you lie about what was said.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 03, 2012, 02:00:21 am
I'm not complaining about the warning, I'm complaining about how you said "last warning" as if I were a frequent offender that would be banned next time I accidentally wounded anyone. The wound was said in an asshole'ish manner over an accident, you're clearly an asshole nerd rager who shouldn't have the ability to kick or ban anyone, especially since you lie about what was said.

The kick would of came before the ban by the way.  Either way the warning worked as planned!

Keep insulting me man I got thick skin. 

Meanwhile I will keep an eye out and admin the servers for all of us to have a better c-rpg experience.   8-)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: TugBoat on May 03, 2012, 04:44:37 am
No, it didn't work. What part did you not understand about the wounding being an accident? I can't stop doing something that was an accident to begin with? You didn't do shit but make yourself look like a power hungry idiot to the entire server at the time. It was obvious to everyone that I didn't wound anyone on purpose so you had no purpose saying anything. Accidents happen, you prevented nothing, helped nothing, did nothing.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 03, 2012, 11:06:19 am
No, it didn't work. What part did you not understand about the wounding being an accident? I can't stop doing something that was an accident to begin with? You didn't do shit but make yourself look like a power hungry idiot to the entire server at the time. It was obvious to everyone that I didn't wound anyone on purpose so you had no purpose saying anything. Accidents happen, you prevented nothing, helped nothing, did nothing.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree then.  Accidents happen once.  Not a whole bunch of times.

When I tw or tk someone on accident I usually apologize.  You never did.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on May 05, 2012, 01:46:59 am
Seems you get a lot of hate post/ rage ingame idk what everyone problem is.


Keep up the good work, anyways
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 05, 2012, 01:50:51 am
Seems you get a lot of hate post/ rage ingame idk what everyone problem is.


Keep up the good work, anyways

Meh, it will catch up with you eventually unfortunately.  Gran pappy gets the same amount.  The hate gets to high levels when you are not in a big clan or are solo.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Rumblood on May 05, 2012, 04:19:47 pm
I got much early hate, made some adjustments, and now it is primarily from enforcing the rules (and too much pink text which goes in hand with that  :P )
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Kreczor on May 06, 2012, 04:40:54 am
You're pretty cute irl
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 06, 2012, 05:50:08 am
You're pretty cute irl

 :oops:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Kreczor on May 06, 2012, 05:51:03 am
u wanna buy my looms big boy? ;)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on May 06, 2012, 06:16:04 am
u wanna buy my looms big boy? ;)
No thanks... I heard you were selling some though.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Kreczor on May 07, 2012, 01:31:24 am
No thanks... I heard you were selling some though.
I'll take all your paychecks for the next three years. That's for my 500k.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 07, 2012, 07:10:36 pm
This EyeBeat_Women guy or whatever he goes by now kicked me from NA 1 last night for running him over on accident one time. I was trying to avoid being shot by an archer i couldn't even see him until after i had already run him over, i had to turn really sharp to avoid being hit with an arrow and unbeknownst to me eyebeat was there. He knows full well it wasnt intentional, he saw  me hit him and that my character was facing the archer who was to my rear and facing away from eyebeat meaning i couldn't see him, if your cav with a sheild and your being shot at you keep your sheild towards the archer as long as you can to prevent yourself from being shot even while turning away from the archer. Despite the fact that the team bump was obviously accidental i got no warning no nothing he just kicked me. Hell he was even shot and killed by the exact same archer because he was so angry and has so little self control he couldnt wait till the end of the round to kick me he had to do it right then. How he doles out the second harshest punishment for running him over one time on accident which technically inst even against the rules is beyond me.

Then when i came back and confronted him about it he claimed i was team killing people in spawn and teamwounding or something and said he would ban me if i did it again. I hadn't team killed anyone the entire time i had been on (an hour maybe) and i had only accidentally run over him once. I was wondering what this guy was smoking but then i looked at this thread and saw it was full of nothing but people complaining about him using his admin powers to get revenge against people he felt had personally wronged him because he cannot  control his temper. Admins are not supposed to use kicks as there own personal M button. People get run over and team wounded on accident a hundred times in a game, it happens, and 95% of the player base is mature enough to not hit m or even say anything to the person who did it.

Why is someone whose in that bottom 5% of maturity and self control an admin?  Also from querying the ban threads as well as eyebeaets statement in his OP saying he would post about any bans he gives out in this thread, it would seem that eyebeat has never actually banned anyone in his 6 months as admin, which is a strong indicator he is not actually doing his job. I can also never recall him doing anything productive/positive in terms of getting people to stop doing things in a game, i had actually forgotten he was an admin due to his inaction. Others in this thread have complained of him not doing anything about complaints about other players. So again, why is an admin who cant control his temper and make rational decisions who only uses his powers to get revenge against other people he doesn't like, who contributes nothing as an admin, still an admin? Judging from the pole and his feedback he is the worst admin in CRPG, so why is he still an admin? If you don't get fired for being the worst admin in CRPG what do you get fired for?


The Official Rules as posted by CMP:

No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round.
NOT OK: poll-kicking someone who involuntarily hurt you.

If you cannot tell the difference between intentional and unintentional team bumping you should not be an admin, there was no way what happend could possibly have been preceived as being intentional. Chasing after a team mate and hitting them 4 times killing them is intentional team killing/team wounding, running over someone you cannot see to avoid being killed/wounded is not. The rules also say your not allowed to kick someone for involuntarly hurting you, poll kick or otherwise (admin kick) so you are in fact the one who broke the rules and should be punished.

EDIT: Also eyebeat origonally got admin by claiming he had a job that made him only able to play from 3am-7am and that there was alot of bad activity going so an admin was needed. This incident happend at 10 or 11pm on a weekday and ive only seen eyebeat on during prime time hours, and ive seen him on quite a bit. I would have to assume he lied his way into an admin position, no admins are going to be up at 3am-7am to verify that hes actually on during that time, and again if hes on at 10pm all the time then hes obviously not at work. Given how overly desperate he was to become admin and how frequently he was harassing the people in charge (which mostly didnt help as the other admins knew he wasnt a good guy and not good admin material) to make him admin its not much of a stretch to think he lied his way into his position. Yet another reason to fire him as an admin.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 08, 2012, 03:52:39 am
I like most admins have extremely little patience for those people that tw or tk right out of the spawn. From my angle it looked like you did it on purpose. Also that was not the only time you twed myself or someone else on that map.

Every person I have banned (not kicked) does not post in this thread for a reason. Hell I banned one last night.

The only people that have a problem with how I admin are the ones that get warned or kicked once.

But I would like to say that I saw a drastic improvement as far as you not team bumping in spawn after that kick. Thank you Lemmy for continuing  to play by the rules.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 08, 2012, 05:08:34 am
I like most admins have extremely little patience for those people that tw or tk right out of the spawn. 

We were not in the spawn, we were outside the village near the center of the map. If we were in the spawn it would be the first few seconds of the match, how could an archer run across the map and shoot me and you in the head in the first 3-4 seconds of match. Not only that what admins are you talking about, i basically never see someone kick a guy or ban them without confirming that they intentionally did something wrong.

From my angle it looked like you did it on purpose. Also that was not the only time you twed myself or someone else on that map.

From your angle, i was right infront of you with my character turned in the opposite direction so i couldnt see you, you got run over a second after i made the sharp turn to avoid the arrow how could you not see that as being unintentional (not to mention you were behind me to begin with how would i know you or anyone was there). So again to the point i made in my post if you cant tell the difference or dont have enough self control to atleast inquire about what happend before acting impusivley you shouldnt be an admin. But who am i kidding you and i both know it wasn't intentional, even someoen whose only been playing a month can easily tell if a tk/tw was intentional or not its pretty obvious.

 Also who did i TW, can you name a single person, i didnt hit anyone with my morning star, you were the only one i bumped. Not only that it was the second round and you werent on my team the first round, so how did i team bump you before that on that map? If i TW someone odds are they are going to die i hit harder than probably anyone in the game with my build, especially you with your pure agility build and no armor. And you have access to the logs, why dont you show who i tked here.

Every person I have banned (not kicked) does not post in this thread for a reason. Hell I banned one last night.

You said YOUwould post in this thread regaurding bans, not other players. The fact that you havnt followed up on that suggest you havnt banned anyone, and who did you ban i was on last night same as you and i didnt see you ban anyone.


The only people that have a problem with how I admin are the ones that get warned or kicked once.

As you say in your OP your kicks are "warnings" which makes no sense. A warning is a warning a kick is a punishment, this indicates you have no self restraint and just impulsively kick people. And yes the only players who have a problem with how you admin are the ones you kick, that's because you don't actually do any admining, you just kick players who you think wronged you personally which is an abuse of power so they complain about it.

But I would like to say that I saw a drastic improvement as far as you not team bumping in spawn after that kick. Thank you Lemmy for continuing  to play by the rules.

I never team bumped anyone in spawn on that map, name one person, post some evidence or anything. A decent admin has evidence as cause for what they do. Everyone knows i do not charge out of spawn i walk my horse out, and again i did not run over you in the spawn we were out in an open field near the village. I didn't change the way i played after you kicked me because i know you had absolutely no grounds to ban me as you had no evidence as i did nothing wrong. You can kick me from the server for no reason, but if you ban me you have to have actual evidence, which you have none.

Ive been playing this game for a year and i have literally never been kicked or banned for horse bumping, I bump you one time and what a coincidence you kick me claiming i was team killing when i had never team killed anyone and i hadn't run over anyone in that map but you. I come to this thread and its filled with people complaining about you doing the exact same thing to them as well as you having the lowest vote rating of any admin in CRPG.

You are full of shit and only use your Powers for your own benefit. The way you were begging to be an admin was a huge red flag that you were power hungry and wanted to use it to abuse people, other admins saw it but you kept begging until the powers at be allowed you to be an admin. I ran you over on accident and you were pissed off because, due to my experience and all of the comments in this thread made by those who know you it would seem you are hot headed and cant control your actions. Its not my fault your a 3/36 agility build who wears no armor and therefore takes damage from horse bumps, thats your fault and you have to deal with it, not take out your frustrations on me. If you cant control yourself like an adult (i dont care if your 15 or however old you are its no excuse) you shouldn't be an admin.

EDIT: Also eyebeat what are you doing in this thread at 11pm, shouldnt you be at work? I mean thats how you got admin by telling the people in charge you work nights and can only play 3am-7am so you were supposed to be the earily morning admin casue there wasnt one. You should go to work quickly before they fire you from your non existent job.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 08, 2012, 07:13:27 am
Lemmy thank you for your long descriptive posts and constructive criticism.

Since you are so interested in personal life...  I just now went on lunch at work. I work at factory that builds cars and trucks. So far we have built 330 if you are wondering. I have 5 more hours to go before I am off. Then an hour drive home.  Posting all this from my blackberry.

I understand you are still upset about getting kicked and I am used to players feeling that way when I make a decision to use administrative powers that include them.

You seem very passionate about crpg like myself. I had to make a decision based on everything I saw and experienced so you will have to live with it.

Though this may sound very negative I will try to end on a positive note.

Other than what we have discussed I think you are a very good player.  Keep it up and just try to watch where you are going.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: genric on August 08, 2012, 08:14:35 am
I also check out Strategus at work because crossing bridges is a nightmare and I don't want to find out 8-9 hours later I failed and have to wait to next day to finally correct it.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 08, 2012, 09:39:35 am
I also check out Strategus at work because crossing bridges is a nightmare and I don't want to find out 8-9 hours later I failed and have to wait to next day to finally correct it.


That would also happen to me. Makes me miss the old days.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 08, 2012, 06:24:35 pm
Lemmy thank you for your long descriptive posts and constructive criticism.

Since you are so interested in personal life...  I just now went on lunch at work. I work at factory that builds cars and trucks. So far we have built 330 if you are wondering. I have 5 more hours to go before I am off. Then an hour drive home.  Posting all this from my blackberry.

I understand you are still upset about getting kicked and I am used to players feeling that way when I make a decision to use administrative powers that include them.

You seem very passionate about crpg like myself. I had to make a decision based on everything I saw and experienced so you will have to live with it.

Though this may sound very negative I will try to end on a positive note.

Other than what we have discussed I think you are a very good player.  Keep it up and just try to watch where you are going.

Talking to you is like talking to a customer support representative or a member of congress whose at a hearing on corruption charges. I have asked you to justify your actions and you cannot. You claimed i was team killing people in spawn, i asked you to post logs and name the person(s) i tked and spawn and you cannot do it, because it didn't happen. You were never in spectator mode, you were never on my team until that round, you hadn't seen anything, i ran you over one time on accident and you got angry about it and kicked me just as you have done to several other people in this thread for other equally stupid shit.

As a final note here are chadz criteria for a good admin:

Maturity - Your name was eyebeat_women, also your signature.

Intelligence - You supposedly work at an automotive factory.

Cool-Headedness - You raged and kicked me in two seconds without warning or without even thinking about your actions, your are the exact opposite of a cool-headed person, and everyone in this thread, including many of your LLJK brethren seem to agree.

You know, I kind of liked eyebeat before he went power crazy. Before he became admin. Before he posted on our SA thread about how I should stop playing this game. He's an asshole. A blatant jerk.

lol sure bro thats the reason right, like I said everyone knows the reason you tried to get me banned again is cause you are angry about things I said to you previously not related to cRPG. sad that you take personal grudges so far but can't say i'm surprised really, once a mad nerd always a mad nerd.

get with the times bro.
You get the idea.

Charm - I strongly dislike you.

Hopefully when Espu gets back from vacation, or wherever he is he will read whats been posted here. Your rage driven power trip needs to come to an end.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 08, 2012, 07:29:23 pm
NA drama. :D

A+ would read again.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Shadowren on August 08, 2012, 07:54:24 pm

Cool-Headedness - You raged and kicked me in two seconds without warning or without even thinking about your actions, your are the exact opposite of a cool-headed person, and everyone in this thread, including many of your LLJK brethren seem to agree.
You get the idea.

Quote from CMP "If you ever get kicked, consider that a serious warning - you are obviously doing something wrong. If you are unsure what it is, re-read these rules and/or ask the admin in question what the kick was for in a civilized manner. If you're a hot-headed type, perhaps take a few minutes to cool off before going back to shout at the admin. Same goes for all interaction with the admins, act properly and you will most likely be received better."

Had to point that out  :D


Read this ----->http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/





Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 08, 2012, 09:24:59 pm
Quote from CMP "If you ever get kicked, consider that a serious warning - you are obviously doing something wrong. If you are unsure what it is, re-read these rules and/or ask the admin in question what the kick was for in a civilized manner. If you're a hot-headed type, perhaps take a few minutes to cool off before going back to shout at the admin. Same goes for all interaction with the admins, act properly and you will most likely be received better."

Had to point that out  :D


Read this ----->http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/

When i came back i said this was ridiculous and asked him to tell me the name of one person i tked, he couldn't answer, and how does the aftermath change anything about how what he did was wrong (and if you had actually read my posts you would know i quoted the rules, obviously ive read them). This guys actions and his history suggest he abuses his powers, admins are not infallible (running over one person one time on accident is worthy of a serious warning?). If someone who gets admin can do whatever they want with no repercussions, that's a problem, especially when some of the people whose responsibility it is to ensure fair play blindy defends him not because he is deserving of it or in the right, but purely because he is an admin and nothing else. Favoring one person over the community (who through there votes have voted him worst admin in CRPG) just because that person is an admin isn't good, and it doesn't make you look very impartial.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: TellYouWhat on August 08, 2012, 09:46:22 pm
Intelligence - You supposedly work at an automotive factory.
I'm glad you think employment determines intelligence.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 08, 2012, 11:32:55 pm
I'm glad you think employment determines intelligence.

I am a team leader does that make me any more intelligent?

Also Lemmy you quoted Badplayer a person that is permabanned as a credible source.

Lemmy is this enough text to get you to insult my personal life again?
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on August 08, 2012, 11:40:20 pm
found the hidden gif in your gif  :wink:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 08, 2012, 11:50:28 pm
I am a team leader does that make me any more intelligent?

Also Lemmy you quoted Badplayer a person that is permabanned as a credible source.

Lemmy is this enough text to get you to insult my personal life again?

great story:
    So i was on my cav alt the other day playing on NA1.  Having fun rolling an x5, when i accidently bump eyebeat while hes fighting someone cuz i was trying to help him and kill them, but he whirls around so much with his elite spammitar that he ran to the opposite side and i hit him, nothing really happened he just reported me and raged about it as usual.   Few rounds later the round is basically over its like 10v1 and im searching for the last guy.  I was riding strait for him and then eyebeat who was in front of me, decides to juke to his right and make me run him over, and then he says i intentinally bumped him.  The next pass i make to try and kill the last guy eyebeat fucking swings his sword at my horse, literally in the open NOBODY around except us two, im on his team and he tries to tk me out of revenge. im sorry if i thing thats out of line but WHAT THE FUCK!??!?! if ur team wounded ur supposed to repoted it to an admin not revenge tw am i correct? and an ADMIN IS REVENGE TEAM WOUNDING? ARE U KIDDING ME?!  oh oh best part is yet to come, then i equip screen a guy and tk him at the end of the round, and he proceeds to kick me and then laugh about it when i relogg, god absolutely flawless eyebeat i dont know how you do it
+1 on my part for this admin

Ok if badplayer is not reputable to you heres another person complaining about you abusing and raging with your lack of self control with reporting, raging, attempted revenge tking, greifing, and finally kicking the guy. If you would like more just look in this thread yourself thers no shortage of these kinds of complaints.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 01:02:50 am
As an outsider, while I don't know what happened, all I see is EyeBeat ignoring all of the seemingly valid points Lemmy has brought up(except for maybe the employment comment). Instead of addressing completely irrelevant points, focus on the serious allegations(because they are very serious) that have been made against you.

And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make a big fuss over a kick if something wasn't fishy about it, just an observation.

Continue by all means. :)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 09, 2012, 04:08:06 am
As an outsider, while I don't know what happened, all I see is EyeBeat ignoring all of the seemingly valid points Lemmy has brought up(except for maybe the employment comment). Instead of addressing completely irrelevant points, focus on the serious allegations(because they are very serious) that have been made against you.

And I'm pretty sure I wouldn't make a big fuss over a kick if something wasn't fishy about it, just an observation.

Continue by all means. :)

You are right. Maybe I should just give up being an admin.

No when I am working 12 hour days I have little time to look up logs and junk.

In the meanwhile I'll just sit here and take the verbal abuse about my real life since that was totally called for because I kicked someone for teambumping. NOT BANNED.  But kicked.

Bjord I deserve all of that right? 
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 05:16:14 am
You are right. Maybe I should just give up being an admin.

No when I am working 12 hour days I have little time to look up logs and junk.

In the meanwhile I'll just sit here and take the verbal abuse about my real life since that was totally called for because I kicked someone for teambumping. NOT BANNED.  But kicked.

Bjord I deserve all of that right?

Your trying to use my inane comment as a "red herring" to distract people from the actual issue at hand (the main focus of your last two posts was on that comment, not the issue at hand). And yes if you are abusing your admin powers you deserve to be called out on it, you deserve to be held accountable for your actions whether you believe it or not. You deserve to be punished by espu (the guy who moderates the admins), and given your track record you giving up admin or it being taken from you would not be a bad thing. If you don't have time to look up data in a log to justify an action you took as an admin (you do its just an excuse because nothing is there), then obviously you don't have time to be an admin.

Also your red herring attempt reminded me of one of my favorite south park clips:

Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 09, 2012, 07:14:34 am
Red herring?

Ummmm
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 08:28:44 am
No, EyeBeat, I did not say you deserve taking verbal abuse. Don't be ridiculous. I simply said you should answer Lemmy and answer him properly. Even now you have yet to do so, I can but wonder as to why but you are not doing yourself favours. And he simply asked if there were any concrete evidence of him teamwounding, he has the right to know. Any other admin is also required to state the reason as well as evidence(in the form of logs) when somebody asks for it. It's for both the admin's sake and the players' sake. If you don't have the time to check the logs, I can only think of one solution.

If you feel unappreciated regarding your duties in an online community, why don't you quit? You're not doing yourself a favour by forcing tough decisions on yourself, so why do it if you feel that your efforts to enforce rules are a constant source of negative attention? The game is fully enjoyable without the ability to kick, ban and mute people. Of course, being an admin is an admirable thing, but as I said: What's the point if you are taking shit from everyone because of it?

I know I wouldn't be an admin for the same reason, it's a big responsibility(and not a means of power). Don't have time to play the game? Nobody is forcing you to work another 12 hours. :)

Also, Lemmy, even if you feel wronged, don't be such a dick about it. The employment comment was unnecessary.

Just my opinions as unbiased outsider.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on August 09, 2012, 12:52:30 pm
I have answered Lemmy.

I was using the tilde to watch him coming from behind me in the first 20 seconds of the match.  He steered and ran me over slowly.  This was not the only time I was team bumped by him.

It looked horribly intentional so I kicked him. 

I have been TKed and TWed on accident hundreds of times and accepted it.  Any admin on here can attest to that.

I have seen admins lose their job.  But not for kicking someone for a legit reason.  I have seen them lose it for blanket  banning clans and banning people for a personal reason.  I go by the books.  I have never had a problem with Lemmy.

As far as logs are concerned they should not matter because I kicked the player based on what happened to me. 

However once they are updated I will take a look.

You guys will have to deal with it and move on either way.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Meow on August 09, 2012, 12:59:21 pm
No, EyeBeat, I did not say you deserve taking verbal abuse. Don't be ridiculous. I simply said you should answer Lemmy and answer him properly. Even now you have yet to do so, I can but wonder as to why but you are not doing yourself favours. And he simply asked if there were any concrete evidence of him teamwounding, he has the right to know. Any other admin is also required to state the reason as well as evidence(in the form of logs) when somebody asks for it. It's for both the admin's sake and the players' sake. If you don't have the time to check the logs, I can only think of one solution.

If you feel unappreciated regarding your duties in an online community, why don't you quit? You're not doing yourself a favour by forcing tough decisions on yourself, so why do it if you feel that your efforts to enforce rules are a constant source of negative attention? The game is fully enjoyable without the ability to kick, ban and mute people. Of course, being an admin is an admirable thing, but as I said: What's the point if you are taking shit from everyone because of it?

I know I wouldn't be an admin for the same reason, it's a big responsibility(and not a means of power). Don't have time to play the game? Nobody is forcing you to work another 12 hours. :)

Also, Lemmy, even if you feel wronged, don't be such a dick about it. The employment comment was unnecessary.

Just my opinions as unbiased outsider.

Can you please keep your wannabe justice guy bullshit out of this thread?
You have no idea what he does as an admin, obviously 90% of the stuff in all feedback threads are people who are pissed at the admin in question which is the whole purpose of this forum but obviously you completely missed that.
Most likely for the same reason you miss 90% of all other theads because you don't read but just post, stop that now.

Also espu has nothing to do with NA admins so stop trying to scare people with your misinformation.


Thanks.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 06:57:57 pm
I was using the tilde to watch him coming from behind me in the first 20 seconds of the match.  He steered and ran me over slowly.  This was not the only time I was team bumped by him.


chadz most important rule of all: Common sense.

Why would i run towards the village, then turn around sharply and bump you? When you turn that sharp to avoid being shot your moving at a very slow speed and inflict minimum if any damage. If i really wanted to hurt you i wouldnt have passed you and then turned and hit you, i would have simply run over you at full speed. If i wanted to do it discretly i would have waited until you were in a crowd and ran you over. I also would add that why would i apologize for something i did to hurt you intentionally, but i wasn't able to finish typing it out before you kicked me in about 2 seconds flat, not to mention i had to put atleast some distance between me and the archer to be safe. ANd you saw that archer firing at me, he shot you in the face seconds after it happened (the logs will show this).

And agai you were right infront of me and my character was looking at the archer away from you so i could not see you, you know that. Also why would i run over you, someone i had no relationship with and did not know? Also everyone on NA1 knows i do not intentionally tw or tk people, i have been playing for a year and have a very good reputation in game, you also know this. And how could i be tking and twing everyone left and righ as you claimed, and still (if i remember correctly) have the best score of any player in the game, tking and twing really hurts your score. Also thanks for kicking the best player (me) from our team, leading to the team getting slaughtered and losing their multiplier because you cant control yourself, but that is somewhat beside the point. There was no reason to believe what i did was an accident and atleast inquire about it like any other admin would. But even then, i cannot remember an admin kicking someone for team bumping, and its been along time sense ive seen an admin tell someone to watch the teambumps.

If you cant use common sense you should not be an admin.

Also in the game and the logs will show this, you claimed i was team killing people and team-wounding in spawn (and somewhat suggested it in another quote in this thread), but in this quote you acknowledged the fact that it was 20 seconds in the game, and obviously we were not in spawn, i could run across the map on my horse in 10-12 seconds let alone 20. And you are an agility build with no armor, you run pretty fast.

When was the other time i team bumped you, did you think it was an accident if it did happen, and how does an accidental team bump affect your decision later on something else that you think was intentional (you kicked me for "intentional team bumping", not supposed recklessness)? If you thought it was intentional why didn't you say something to me? You may think kicking someone without warning or cause is something your allowed to do because punishments are at the discretion as admin (again common sense applies here and kicking someone wihtout warning for one team bump is not common sense). But what shadow said as a kick being a severe warning, obviously that suggests its something you would not do without first giving a lesser warning(s), this is what decent admins do.

It looked horribly intentional so I kicked him.

I basically addressed this in my first response in this post, but yeah again, if you cannot tell the difference between an intentional and unintentional horse bump/tk/tw you should not be admin. Even the newest players can tell the difference why cant you? This thread also has others as i have posted complaining, in part beause of your supposed lack of ability to distinguish the two, but again i assert that you do know the difference, you just cant control your temper.

I have been TKed and TWed on accident hundreds of times and accepted it.  Any admin on here can attest to that.

The other posts in this thread would suggest that you have a hard time accepting it, using the M key which is something only the most immature members of the community do, and even demanding apologies from people. Stuff happens, let it go.

As far as logs are concerned they should not matter because I kicked the player based on what happened to me. 

You have claimed  in game and i believe on here that i was team kiling/team wounding *people* as in mulitple people and that was why you kicked me, but here you admit that your kick was solely because of what i did to you, one allegedly intentional horse bump, which was obviously not intentional. If you kick someone from the server, a harsh penalty, for one horse bump that is an obvious indicator you have an anger issue and have a hard time controlling your actions, and or no common sense whatsoever. I did one thing, to you, given that scenario its up to your discretion and your "ability" to forgive others for things you think they did to you that mattered, and nothing else. If i had done that to anyone else they wouldn't of even mentioned it, i did that to you and you react by kicking me from the server without explanation or warning. An admin should have the most self control, not the least.

I wouldnt be surprised if i had hit someone prior to that atleast one time, but everyone, especially cavalry does it on accident, and if someone doesnt even report you for it then i doubt they think it was intentional or have a problem with it. Unless it was overly excessive, and again if i was runnign over half my team out of the spawn or tking people like crazy i would have a hard time having the top score, especially given it was only the first few rounds.

However once they are updated I will take a look.

Its somewhat surprising that logs are not automatically updated as they occur or atleast daily. But i dont know how the developers manage these things.

I have seen admins lose their job.  But not for kicking someone for a legit reason.  I have seen them lose it for blanket  banning clans and banning people for a personal reason.  I go by the books.  I have never had a problem with Lemmy.

This quote is moreso for meow but ill addres eyebeats comments here breifly.

Again common sense eyebeat, your dealing wiht someone who as far as you know is a good player and has never really done anythign wrong, and you immediatly kick without looking into the situation, surely if something that occurs a hundred times a game and is an accident 99% of the time and the person who did it has never done anything wrong, then there must be a good enough chance of it being accidental that you would at least ask me about it before acting so harshly and definitively. Also according the the rules "admin disgression" there technically are no rules (only what is typical), which i see as a huge problem. What is typical for a situation like this is to tell someone to knock it off first or ask if they did something intentionally, not instant kick for a horse bump then accuse that person of team killing other players in spawn in admin chat once they get back in and confront you about it. People do tend to notice team kills and i would image most players knew your statement was BS, but its still not a good thing to have happen to you.

Anyways to Meow, are you the person responsible for managing NA admins? If so at what point is an admins competency or ability called into question, and how do you determine that their ability should be called into question? It is highly unreasonable, to only punish or remove admins for doing things, as eyebeat said, like blanked banning clans which is outrageous and farfetched. As far as banning players for a personal reason, im not sure how you prove that, if it is in fact you who are responsible for managing the NA admins. At any rate badplayer, and i think krezcor, people who know eyebeat best have accused him of doing just that already. I would be hessitant to discount badplayer, hes not a good person but he very bluntly tells it like it is and expresses his beliefs, one of the reasons people don't like him, and of course stealing all those peoples looms, but he was somehow allowed to continue playing.

Not to mention when talking about players who actually know eyebeat and would be punished by him for personal reasons, your talking about his former LLJK clan members, the LLJK goon squad is the most infamous clan of trolls in CRPG history, eyebeat, as well as many other members of that clan has reason to be discounted and not taken seriously, but they are his former clan mates and know the most about him, so their thoughts on him need to at-least be considered, especially seeing as eyebeats attitude on this thread is seemingly a facade to trick others into thinking he is calm and fair in order to help himself keep admin, according to many people who know him and people who have delt with him he is angry and has issues controlling his anger. Changing his name from eyebeat_women to whatever it is now is one small example, although he still has his signature that ends in a depiction of sexual acts (fingering), which i didn't know was allowed here much less from an admin, but i digress.

So ya at what point is an admin punished or removed, its overly absurd to only remove an admin for doing somethign so bad as blanket banning, even the worst admins can easily avoid doing that, and its hard to prove personal biased to some extent, even smoothrich is still an admin and if you cant see hes biased from his endless sea of anti hospitaller posts well i dont know what to say about that, also ive heard about him back in the day not punishing his fellow LLJK goon squad members for their antics and i wouldnt be surprised if he was hard on hospitaller in the present.

Not to mention your do not play on NA and do not *really* know who  i am, who eyebeat is, or really anyone else on NA. So i would be interested in hearing about that, also are there any actual rules that admins are held to? I see a list of rules for players, but not for admins. If your not the one responsible for NA i apologize and would appreciate if you could tell me who is.


EDIT: Also shadowren do you really need to follow me around and downvote all of my posts and upvote the posts of those who are against me in whatever thread im in(if there actually is an agrumenet/debate taking place that thread). I know your mad about me leaving hospitaller still (i think?), but if hoosby and spaniard can stop harrasing me about it i should hope you can to, thank you.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Molly on August 09, 2012, 07:09:56 pm
You're making a fool out of yourself, Lemmy. Hope you realize that soon enough.

You got kicked... OH NOES!

Clanmate of me got banned for 24 hours for being extensively spectating and he didn't even posted once. Grow a pair... -.-
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 07:14:47 pm
You're making a fool out of yourself, Lemmy. Hope you realize that soon enough.

You got kicked... OH NOES!

Clanmate of me got banned for 24 hours for being extensively spectating and he didn't even posted once. Grow a pair... -.-

please read:
Can you please keep your wannabe justice guy bullshit out of this thread?
You have no idea what he does as an admin, obviously 90% of the stuff in all feedback threads are people who are pissed at the admin in question which is the whole purpose of this forum but obviously you completely missed that.
Most likely for the same reason you miss 90% of all other theads because you don't read but just post, stop that now.

Also espu has nothing to do with NA admins so stop trying to scare people with your misinformation.


Thanks.

And yes i have a problem with someone abusing their powers, and from what others have said its a reoccurring problem. If this were counter strike were there are blenty of badmins and plenty of servers, i wouldnt of said a thing, i would have left and went to a differnt server and not come back to that one. We dont have that luxory in CRPG, so its especially important that the admins in the one battle server that is actually populated most of the time are doing what they are supposed to.

Also i was banned once along time ago for 30 minutes for tking a guy who was intentionally greifing and teamwounding me as well as several other players in an attempt to get us to take a swing at him so he could report us and have us kicked/banned. This guy has/had done this many times to other players and was eventaully kicked from his clan for it as far as i know. At any rate i accepted it because i knew that i did technically break the rules. The reason i am not accepting this is because i know i did not break the rules yet i was punished anyways because eyebeat cannot control his temper.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on August 09, 2012, 07:27:56 pm
Ehhh the Cat not in charge of the NA admins (through he always there to give advice and help).
Shik is in charge of the NA admins.

Not too sure why your still going on in the incident, through Eyebeat may have been his faults (He is human) it's not really needed to it drag out. (Seems like you got a history with him maybe? Since your digging this deep.)

With the logs they normally take 3 or more days to update to the site.


I believe I had more admin abooze problems than eyebeat, with the short amount of time of me being a admin compare to him.

I also see you brought up the LLJK incident too as an ex-lljk member never really had a problem with eyebeat.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Molly on August 09, 2012, 07:32:13 pm
I read Meow's post. So? It was obviously directed to Bjord and you. I was merely expressing my opinion about your unusual rage about being kicked (not even banned) once. And I stand to it.

And calling the kick absurd while posting one wall of text after the other about it is ironic... btw, yes, I actually read all of it.
All the effort you put into all those posts... to which achievement? You really think you gonna get Eyebeat removed over one kick?
Besides, reading this I can't stop getting the impression of you being the "madman" and Eyebeat being the "calm and relaxed" guy. That is kinda not working in your favour...

Anyway, it is not my business and I know that but this is such an unusual behaviour that I couldn't resist to comment on it and maybe put the whole thing into some perspective. I mean... it's about one single kick, right?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 07:34:31 pm
Ehhh the Cat not in charge of the NA admins (through he always there to give advice and help).
Shik is in charge of the NA admins.

Not too sure why your still going on in the incident, through Eyebeat may have been his faults (He is human) it's not really needed to it drag out. (Seems like you got a history with him maybe? Since your digging this deep.)

With the logs they normally take 3 or more days to update to the site.


I believe I had more admin abooze problems than eyebeat, with the short amount of time of me being a admin compare to him.

I also see you brought up the LLJK incident too as an ex-lljk member never really had a problem with eyebeat.

Ok then my questions in my previous post are directed to shik not meow. I have no history with eyebeat, never in the same clan, never even part of the same "faction" in strat. And no offense to you but arent 20% of the posts in this thread you posting "playfully" with eyebeat, you seem to be his biggest fan. Im dragging this on for the reason stated above, we only have one server. This is not a popular game like counter strike where if the admin is not good i can just go somewhere else and not play there. If we only have one server we need to make sure that the admins are doing what they are supposed to. And why should anyone have objections to admins being held to a standard or being held accountable for their actions, i cant say ive ever seen that happen in CRPG myself, but it should.

I read Meow's post. So? It was obviously directed to Bjord and you. I was merely expressing my opinion about your unusual rage about being kicked (not even banned) once. And I stand to it.

And calling the kick absurd while posting one wall of text after the other about it is ironic... btw, yes, I actually read all of it.
All the effort you put into all those posts... to which achievement? You really think you gonna get Eyebeat removed over one kick?
Besides, reading this I can't stop getting the impression of you being the "madman" and Eyebeat being the "calm and relaxed" guy. That is kinda not working in your favour...

Anyway, it is not my business and I know that but this is such an unusual behaviour that I couldn't resist to comment on it and maybe put the whole thing into some perspective. I mean... it's about one single kick, right?  :rolleyes:

What is ironic about it, why would i write so much and be so upset with what has happend if eyebeat had not infact abused his powers. As i said i was punished once before and i accepted it even under those conditions. If i had got off my horse, ran up to eyebeat, nad hit him 4 times killing him and he banned me, id accept that as i was wrong.

I know that the admin section is basically a trash bin for accusations of abuse. The fact that there is little to no oversight is a severe problem, especially as i had said, one group of admins basically controls all of the active servers. As i said in my post which you claimed you read, his attitude here is probably a facade, and i dont know how mad i would be if i knowling kicked someoen who did nothing that was techniqually wrong, he got his revenge against me. If i were in his position i would feel like i let my emotions get the best of me and maybe even feel a little bad about it, i would also have the ability to admit i was wrong and apologize for it, however eyebeat seems to think he is actaully in some danger and is refuseing to do so fearing reprocusions. I have no problems with genuine mistakes, but lieing about it isnt good, and the fact it was done in the first place due to lack of self control is a problem if your an admin. And again many people who know him paint him as being a "madman", you, someone who doesnt know him at all and never delt with him, think he isnt.

I know what im saying is falling on deaf ears, but that doesnt mean you shouldn't stand up for whats right. And it has little to do with the kick itself, its about why he kicked me, and how he is not held accountable for his actions.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Ganner on August 09, 2012, 07:36:45 pm
After actually being there but not witnessing it:  Let it go man.

I probably would of kicked you too if you ran over me with no other enemies around.  Especially with eyebeat in his cloth, a few horse bumps and hes dead.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 07:49:01 pm
After actually being there but not witnessing it:  Let it go man.

I probably would of kicked you too if you ran over me with no other enemies around.  Especially with eyebeat in his cloth, a few horse bumps and hes dead.

So you'd kick someone with no warning or explanation who had to turn sharply to avoid being shot by an archer(how does the archer not count as an emey? Just becusae they attack you from a distance doesnt mean they arent around or a threat to you) and accidentally ran you over (the vast majority of players wouldnt even hit m). What does damage have to do with anything, intent is all that matters. Not to mention i was going just barely fast enough to actually run him over, if he takes damage from that its not my fault, he chose to play an agility build class with no armor hes gota deal with the downsides of that not take out his frusterations on me.

Also i cannot even remember the last time i saw someone running around intentionally tking people and needed to be kicked. Heuy is gone. Admins are here to support the community, but often times they make a problem out of something that isnt a problem, or overreact, and end up hurting more then they are helping. Sometimes less is more, over-management is not a good thing.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 08:54:30 pm
Can you please keep your wannabe justice guy bullshit out of this thread?
You have no idea what he does as an admin, obviously 90% of the stuff in all feedback threads are people who are pissed at the admin in question which is the whole purpose of this forum but obviously you completely missed that.
Most likely for the same reason you miss 90% of all other theads because you don't read but just post, stop that now.

Also espu has nothing to do with NA admins so stop trying to scare people with your misinformation.


Thanks.

:lol:

I read everything, trust me. The only time I don't is when I'm using my iPod, and when I am I wouldn't bother reading all of those text walls. Maybe instead of calling me a wannabe you could bother to read my post properly and refrain from being prejudicial towards my posts, solely because I am the one making said posts.

If you are able, please give me a good reason why I should not shed light on matters? If EyeBeat is acting on emotion rather than calculation, he either needs a good slap on the wrist or he should resign by himself. Admining a gaming community is not something that should be taken lightly.

Also, calling me a wannabe is pretty uncalled for, don't think you should just insult me for no further reason other than on the assumption that I "don't read just post". Interesting, though. I'd like to learn this technique of not reading and still posting on-topic.

Just a valid opinion, Meow: If you're going to have a position in a community that has authority, don't start insulting people. It gives others idea that it's okay to bash someone for no more of a reason than contempt.

That goes for all admins.

EDIT: I am not saying that Lemmy is right or EyeBeat is right, I am just lifting valid points that should be at the very least contemplated over. I have nothing against the two, and any personal opinion of the two players had no affect on my post. Justice guy is an awesome super hero name though. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Smoothrich on August 09, 2012, 08:58:48 pm
chadz most important rule of all: Common sense.

So ya at what point is an admin punished or removed, its overly absurd to only remove an admin for doing somethign so bad as blanket banning, even the worst admins can easily avoid doing that, and its hard to prove personal biased to some extent, even smoothrich is still an admin and if you cant see hes biased from his endless sea of anti hospitaller posts well i dont know what to say about that, also ive heard about him back in the day not punishing his fellow LLJK goon squad members for their antics and i wouldnt be surprised if he was hard on hospitaller in the present.


Haha.  I don't mind your posting here since it can be frustrating to feel wronged/experience injustice especially when you realize that people can either ignore it, dismiss it, or twist it into things being your fault, but at least in this circumstance there's not much to be said or to do except report what happened and move on.  Now if this was a real life issue like whistleblowing on a criminal or some really damaging/hurtful corruption or abuse then it needs to really be pursued with this sort of drive, but over a videogame kick eeh.  If there are more incidents for you or anyone to report they can be documented here but I think this matter is done for now.

As for me, I see no rules in the admin handbook telling me I can't say Hospitallers were awful to play strat with and to make fun of some of their posting, plenty of terrible posting to laugh at on these forums.  However I don't really care what clan someone is in or w/e if people break rules or grief bad they get warned/kicked/banned. I've always been pretty lenient really, but some of the longest bans I've given out are to LLJK players who I banned repeatedly in the past and/or got to give verbal warnings to over TS instead of just pink text in game.  Annoying LLJK griefers/trolls would ruin my gametime just like anyone else's.

I mean really if I am using admin powers its because someone is ruining the game for others by doing stupid shit like team killing at spawn or extreme racism in chat, that is literally all being a (non shit) admin for this game comes down to, and I think the admins do a good job in general for the servers.  Not many servers to choose from and a pretty small player base for this game, so I hope all us admins do what we can to keep civility on the servers and player retention high for chadz google ad income!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 09:01:49 pm
Haha.  I don't mind your posting here since it can be frustrating to feel wronged/experience injustice especially when you realize that people can either ignore it, dismiss it, or twist it into things being your fault, but at least in this circumstance there's not much to be said or to do except report what happened and move on.  Now if this was a real life issue like whistleblowing on a criminal or some really damaging/hurtful corruption or abuse then it needs to really be pursued with this sort of drive, but over a videogame kick eeh.  If there are more incidents for you or anyone to report they can be documented here but I think this matter is done for now.

Couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Meow on August 09, 2012, 09:28:51 pm
:lol:

I read everything, trust me. The only time I don't is when I'm using my iPod, and when I am I wouldn't bother reading all of those text walls. Maybe instead of calling me a wannabe you could bother to read my post properly and refrain from being prejudicial towards my posts, solely because I am the one making said posts.

If you are able, please give me a good reason why I should not shed light on matters? If EyeBeat is acting on emotion rather than calculation, he either needs a good slap on the wrist or he should resign by himself. Admining a gaming community is not something that should be taken lightly.

Also, calling me a wannabe is pretty uncalled for, don't think you should just insult me for no further reason other than on the assumption that I "don't read just post". Interesting, though. I'd like to learn this technique of not reading and still posting on-topic.

Just a valid opinion, Meow: If you're going to have a position in a community that has authority, don't start insulting people. It gives others idea that it's okay to bash someone for no more of a reason than contempt.

That goes for all admins.

EDIT: I am not saying that Lemmy is right or EyeBeat is right, I am just lifting valid points that should be at the very least contemplated over. I have nothing against the two, and any personal opinion of the two players had no affect on my post. Justice guy is an awesome super hero name though. :mrgreen:

Good job missing my point, now make sure you don't threaten admins with false info again.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lemmy_Winks on August 09, 2012, 09:50:31 pm
Haha.  I don't mind your posting here since it can be frustrating to feel wronged/experience injustice especially when you realize that people can either ignore it, dismiss it, or twist it into things being your fault, but at least in this circumstance there's not much to be said or to do except report what happened and move on.  Now if this was a real life issue like whistleblowing on a criminal or some really damaging/hurtful corruption or abuse then it needs to really be pursued with this sort of drive, but over a videogame kick eeh.  If there are more incidents for you or anyone to report they can be documented here but I think this matter is done for now.

Your right smooth, i probably should have made the first post and moved on and ignored eyebeats first two posts in response, which i viewed as being very dismissive, i felt like i was takling to a customer service rep who couldn't care less about my problem. Thanks for understanding where im coming from, im done with this its wasting too much of my time, its just a video game.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 11:24:14 pm
Good job missing my point, now make sure you don't threaten admins with false info again.
Thanks.

False info? That wasn't me lol. Lemmy was the one saying Espu would come crashing down on him. If that was the point of your post then yes, good for you. However, it didn't concern me. No need to start insulting me.

If you have any problems with me, please tell me. You seem to have something against me, for reason I can probably guess.

Personally, I have nothing against you. I think most of the times you make good decisions, you are useful(for example you helped me with my +3, which I am very thankful for), and I suppose when it all boils down you're a nice guy. So if you ask me, we're all good. If you want that to be mutual, you need only say so. Just remember that in order for that to be true, you also need to cut this treatment where you often single me out(which I think is not a very nice thing to do, I am a person too - treat me like one). One example, like just now, "Wannabe justice guy". It's just pure ridicule.

I'm only a carebear when it comes to stuff that benefits or detriments the community as well as fair treatment of others. Believe it or not I actually view these things seriously as I am pretty fond of this particular community.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 14, 2012, 11:58:02 pm
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-(official)/unban-semenstormbitchyouaint/msg628824/#msg628824
You should of been more clever.

However I agree everyone else should of been banned as well.

That is why I only gave you an hours ban.

Keep the chat clean man!  Love you!

I think that's a bad call only banning one guy, amongst a large group. Ban group or none.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 15, 2012, 12:18:43 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-(official)/unban-semenstormbitchyouaint/msg628824/#msg628824
I think that's a bad call only banning one guy, amongst a large group. Ban group or none.

I guess your way of admining is different than mine.  Agree to disagree I guess?
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 01:19:03 am
I guess your way of admining is different than mine.  Agree to disagree I guess?

A warning, or kick would have been sufficient. It gets the point across.

In addition, the word "my old friend" and variations, thus far has been gray territory in terms of bans. You just made a statement that it is ban worthy with that and thus other admins have the "legal precedent" for other such actions.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Digglez on October 15, 2012, 03:02:47 am
Quote from: Eyebeat
Everyone stopped after he got banned.  Sometimes an example has to be made.

actually no, there was about 3 or 4 pages of people saying my old friend after that, you did nothing.  you did nothing because you made a bad call in the first place

then you conveniently lock the thread to prevent people discussing your said bad call
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 15, 2012, 08:29:36 am
A warning, or kick would have been sufficient. It gets the point across.

I did warn hence why I did the two hour temp ban.

You were not banned.  Please tell my why you are so upset?    :o

actually no, there was about 3 or 4 pages of people saying my old friend after that, you did nothing.  you did nothing because you made a bad call in the first place

then you conveniently lock the thread to prevent people discussing your said bad call

I thought it was a great call.  Then again maybe that is why you and anders aren't admins...   :D
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Digglez on October 15, 2012, 09:03:35 am
I did warn hence why I did the two hour temp ban.

You were not banned.  Please tell my why you are so upset?    :o

I thought it was a great call.  Then again maybe that is why you and anders aren't admins...   :D

Ya a great call that isnt against any of the written rules, which is obviously why you cant back up anything you're saying.  Good job losing all creditably.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 15, 2012, 03:44:51 pm
I thought it was a great call.  Then again maybe that is why you and anders aren't admins...   :D

Hoh? Actually, I was an admin before. This is why i'm far more picky over the calls admin makes, and more likely to post threads. I choose NOT to be an admin anymore cause it's a shit job and just not worth it anymore.

You know you actually have the worst rating as an NA admin eyebeat? Even smooth has a better rating than you do. This doesn't help things.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 15, 2012, 10:41:58 pm
Everyone stopped after he got banned.  Sometimes an example has to be made.

This is from the "UNBAN SEMENstormBITCHYOUAINT" topic, which you closed to prevent the community from sharing criticism of your ability to exercise good judgment with your authority. I'm curious why an example had to be made, and of what? An example of someone not breaking the rules, which is made by a temporary ban? If you start banning people for two hours for couching, I bet you won't see any more couching--but they stop to avoid the ban, not because they have some moral compulsion to a rule that exists in your mind for a few minutes. The point I'm making here, if it's not nauseatingly clear, is that people stopped engaging in perfectly legal behavior for the same reason that most people will obey any arbitrary rule you make up on the spot if you wield enough authority, like a firearm (or a banhammer).
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 16, 2012, 03:27:57 am
This is from the "UNBAN SEMENstormBITCHYOUAINT" topic, which you closed to prevent the community from sharing criticism of your ability to exercise good judgment with your authority. I'm curious why an example had to be made, and of what? An example of someone not breaking the rules, which is made by a temporary ban? If you start banning people for two hours for couching, I bet you won't see any more couching--but they stop to avoid the ban, not because they have some moral compulsion to a rule that exists in your mind for a few minutes. The point I'm making here, if it's not nauseatingly clear, is that people stopped engaging in perfectly legal behavior for the same reason that most people will obey any arbitrary rule you make up on the spot if you wield enough authority, like a firearm (or a banhammer).

I am sorry you disagree with my decision for the 2 hour ban.

Please do not scroll "bundle of sticks" in chat after I said "Hey stop posting "bundle of sticks" and scrolling the chat" in the admin chat.  I just picked the one that scrolled it the most.  Afterwards everyone stopped.

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The thread got closed because the ban was well over with.

All feedback should be posted in this thread.

Looking forward to your reply.

You know you actually have the worst rating as an NA admin eyebeat? Even smooth has a better rating than you do. This doesn't help things.

I am well aware.  I am also well aware many of those votes were not because of how I use my admin powers but because of angry players/clans that dislike me for uncovering some actions that they took part in to the higher powers that be.  I love this mod and am all for the longevity of it or else I wouldn't of donated 100 dollars towards it.  Scrolling "bundle of sticks" over and over in chat is something I think should be dealt with.

If you think otherwise then I guess we agree to disagree. 
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Lt_Anders on October 16, 2012, 05:33:32 am
Smooth has more votes, but you have a worse: I hate you rating. You actually have a YES from me.

Either way, agree to disagree.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 16, 2012, 06:10:12 am
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Deal with it? Why even have this thread or forum if players just need to accept abuse from the administrators? This sort of callousness doesn't jive with any sort of authority if you want a healthy community. You haven't even tried to come up with a good response to your criticism over the ban case I referred to in my previous post.

I love this mod and am all for the longevity of it or else I wouldn't of donated 100 dollars towards it.

Everyone here loves it, or we wouldn't play it for hours upon hours. Your (now pharisaic) donation doesn't actually indicate that you love it more or less than any other player here, and it certainly doesn't entitle you to make up rules.

Scrolling "bundle of sticks" over and over in chat is something I think should be dealt with.

If you think otherwise then I guess we agree to disagree.

Personally, I would prefer never to hear or see that word used again, as it's been spoiled by religious fanatics, but you're an administrator, and your job is to deal with players who break the rules. Your job is not to create new rules, or to selectively apply the rules; nor is it to punish people for not following your directions (unless those directions are founded in the rules).

If a pandemic of "bundle of sticks" spam is overwhelming the cRPG community, then players who exhibit consistently problematic behavior should be removed, or the rules should be slightly refined, perhaps explicitly banning the use of that and other words which strongest association is bigotry. However, this seems to be an isolated case, and the only consistently problematic behavior here is your repeated refusal to even consider that you may have made a poor choice. Even a single argument other than, "It made them stop breaking the non-rule," or, "Deal with my actions; do not question them," would indicate to the members of this community that you take your responsibility seriously. Right now, it looks like you take your authority seriously, but not your responsibility.

Please do not scroll "bundle of sticks" in chat after I said "Hey stop posting "bundle of sticks" and scrolling the chat" in the admin chat.

Can you point me to the rule that even suggests that all requests from administrators must be fulfilled, however unreasonable? Here are the closest ones I can find, because they deal with language:

Quote from: cmpxchg8b
  • No offensive behavior anywhere
    • Remember that this is the internet. Don't be insulted if someone calls you an idiot.
...
  • No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)

However, the behavior for which one player was banned doesn't even come close enough to fall under the umbrella of either rule, so you can't hide behind administrative discretion here. I mean, I guess you can, but the principle of discretion should be wielded as a weapon to handle cancerous behavior, not a shield against rational criticism.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 16, 2012, 06:15:33 am
Pretty sure scrolling the chat is not a "non rule".

I mean I can explain to you why you were banned for 2 hours again if you like using different words if you would like me to.

I am trying to figure out what you are trying to get out of this.

If a cop pulls over a car for going over the speed limit.  And the car in front of that car was speeding as well but gets away...  Do you think the cop is not going to issue the ticket still?

Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 16, 2012, 07:18:29 am
Pretty sure scrolling the chat is not a "non rule".

Really? Do you have even a shred of evidence to back that claim? Your word is not law; you are an enforcer. If there is some secret list of rules, then let us know that the cognoscenti haven't deemed the community worthy of this information. I just read the rules twice to make sure I didn't miss anything. If you can point out which portion of that post you used to justify the punishment, you'll at least have the start of a valid defense against criticism. Right now, the best you've got is a red herring (see below).

I mean I can explain to you why you were banned for 2 hours again if you like using different words if you would like me to.

I am trying to figure out what you are trying to get out of this.

I wasn't banned, but I'm just about as fed up with your systematic disregard for reason. We all know why you banned the player who disobeyed you; you've repeated yourself several times. The disagreement is over the validity of that reason. I assert that it's completely invalid, and I've written my justification. Your response to me and everyone else who has criticized you over this has been one form or another of unjustified denial.

If a cop pulls over a car for going over the speed limit.  And the car in front of that car was speeding as well but gets away...  Do you think the cop is not going to issue the ticket still?

Are you really going to unload this whopper of a red herring in your own feedback thread? First, there was no "getting away" here; everyone else who violated your imaginary rule was still connected to the server, and still subject to your selective punishment. This alone completely voids your analogy. Second, you stated more than once that you were just making an example of him, and that it stopped everyone else, and that his ban was sufficient to modify the behavior of the other players to your arbitrary model. This is, again, completely different from the police scenario you just described. Third, traveling faster than the speed limit is a clear violation of a clearly-defined law. Speeding laws are incredibly well-defined, almost to the point of absurdity. On the other hand, I have not seen a single hint from you that you were enforcing a rule that exists or has ever existed here. Fourth, the issue here is not that you selected one player for punishment--although that is a pretty serious issue, as I've already seen one suggestion of a personal vendetta--but that you made up a rule and enforced it. If several players start wounding their team intentionally, and you ban one, causing the rest to stop, and you decide not to ban them--note that they are all clearly violating a clearly-defined rule--then the discussion here would be different, because you would actually be in a gray area; however, your analogy would still be a red herring for the former reasons.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: oralroberts on October 16, 2012, 08:32:30 am
  I would like to say that I said "bundle of sticks" once in the chat...  and the exact sentence was "what is this bundle of sticksry"  and that was amongst all of the people spamming bundle of sticks over and over again.  Then you said ok i'm going to ban after you read the chat log.  Once that happened I was kicked and banned for an hour.  I don't really care about the ban now but it seems you're getting your story mixed up a bit eyebeat.  I have several witnesses on this occasion too.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: oralroberts on October 16, 2012, 08:35:32 am
also to say again.  I wasn't calling anyone a name in anyway.  so i wasn't insulting nor is that racism of any sort.  I used the word in harmless fashion....  And I was the only one banned out of however many were in the server....  seeing that everyone of them spammed "my old friend"...
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Muki on October 16, 2012, 08:52:45 am
please learn to edit in stald of double posting, never know when a forum mod will hit ya :)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 16, 2012, 11:07:39 am
I wasn't banned, but I'm just about as fed up with your systematic disregard for reason.

Oh.   :rolleyes: 

In that case deal with it.  :D
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 16, 2012, 04:34:08 pm
In that case deal with it.  :D

With reasoning skills like yours, you could get Mother Theresa convicted for first-degree murder while defending her against charges of copyright violation. You're not accountable merely to the person you abused; you answer to the entire community over which you have been granted authority. If you won't even spend thirty seconds considering that your dogmatic attachment to a convoluted misconception of authority might be misplaced in a community of intellectuals, why do you still have any responsibility or authority here at all? You willfully neglect the most basic of your responsibilities and use your authority as a rationale for your failure of a defense.

I take the time to voice my concerns carefully and concisely because I have a vested interest in the long-term livelihood of this community. Too many of my favorites have slipped out of existence through systematic neglect of responsibility and abuse of authority (by administrators), and, until now, I had seen no sign of the same in this one. It doesn't matter whether you can't respond or won't; either condition is completely inappropriate for someone in your position. Rolling your eyes and regurgitating the same tired anthem does not indicate any comprehension of any of your criticisms; nor does it excuse you from answering for your childish behavior.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 16, 2012, 08:38:47 pm
With reasoning skills like yours, you could get Mother Theresa convicted for first-degree murder while defending her against charges of copyright violation. You're not accountable merely to the person you abused; you answer to the entire community over which you have been granted authority. If you won't even spend thirty seconds considering that your dogmatic attachment to a convoluted misconception of authority might be misplaced in a community of intellectuals, why do you still have any responsibility or authority here at all? You willfully neglect the most basic of your responsibilities and use your authority as a rationale for your failure of a defense.

I take the time to voice my concerns carefully and concisely because I have a vested interest in the long-term livelihood of this community. Too many of my favorites have slipped out of existence through systematic neglect of responsibility and abuse of authority (by administrators), and, until now, I had seen no sign of the same in this one. It doesn't matter whether you can't respond or won't; either condition is completely inappropriate for someone in your position. Rolling your eyes and regurgitating the same tired anthem does not indicate any comprehension of any of your criticisms; nor does it excuse you from answering for your childish behavior.

No one got abused.  Is this enough of a reply to make you type a whole bunch of stuff again?  :lol:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 17, 2012, 12:01:35 am
No one got abused.  Is this enough of a reply to make you type a whole bunch of stuff again?  :lol:

We all appreciate your attempt to appear smug; you get an A for effort, and trying is all that matters!

Can an adult please join this thread and defend him, since he's clearly incapable (or unwilling, which amounts to the same)? I really want to know whether his action was valid or not; as much as he thinks it's a joke, this is the sort of decision that can deeply affect a community of gamers. Anyone with any evidence at all to support him, please post!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: LordBerenger on October 17, 2012, 12:13:32 am
We all appreciate your attempt to appear smug; you get an A for effort, and trying is all that matters!

Can an adult please join this thread and defend him, since he's clearly incapable (or unwilling, which amounts to the same)? I really want to know whether his action was valid or not; as much as he thinks it's a joke, this is the sort of decision that can deeply affect a community of gamers. Anyone with any evidence at all to support him, please post!

Debate on SA thread instead so that thread can get some shameless free bumps.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 17, 2012, 04:44:03 am
Debate on SA thread instead so that thread can get some shameless free bumps.

I support this!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Mechanix on October 22, 2012, 02:37:18 pm
You just raged pretty hard on an accidental TW that I apologized for.

rofl
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 22, 2012, 03:16:01 pm
You just raged pretty hard on an accidental TW that I apologized for.

rofl

Your own clan mate told you that you were stupid..  Twing out of spawn.

You passed me twice trying to hit me.  I just kept on running.  On the third time you connected.

What did you expect to happen?  Do it again man.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Mechanix on October 22, 2012, 03:46:31 pm
I passed you twice just swinging, not actually trying to hit anyone. I was riding up the hill and you ran right next to me.
My clanmate said I was a retard because I had teamwounded an admin, not because I did it intentionally.

You rage banned me, lol. I apologized right after because it wasn't intentional.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 22, 2012, 04:04:26 pm
I passed you twice just swinging, not actually trying to hit anyone. I was riding up the hill and you ran right next to me.


I never turned or tried to get hit by you.

I never raged because I was watching you the whole time.  The two times you whiffed and missed me. 

I thought to my self "Is this guy really trying to hit me?" 

So I kept running straight not turning using the tilde to watch you.  The third pass came and you hit me in the face with your sword from horse back.

It looked intentional so I banned you for an hour.

If you REALLY didn't mean to intentionally hit me then instead let it be a lesson not to swing wildly and tw people out of spawn.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Mechanix on October 22, 2012, 04:05:52 pm
We resolved it in-game, whatevs.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 24, 2012, 07:42:25 pm
If you REALLY didn't mean to intentionally hit me then instead let it be a lesson not to swing wildly and tw people out of spawn.

That is what the M key is for.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: ednos on October 24, 2012, 09:37:47 pm
That is what the M key is for.

He's an administrator, which means something different to him than it does the others who share his rank (but, consequently, not his attitude). If you scan this thread, you'll find that he claims the mere privilege of authority is justification for its application, and that rules are not really a good means of determining who gets punished--his own intuition, augmented by nothing weaker than his own emotional stream of consciousness, is sufficient guidance for application of administrative discipline. If you don't trust his feelings to be fair and balanced, he will nevertheless disregard you and continue his clearly impartial repression and ask why you don't believe his actions to be just--nay, higher and more noble than mere virtue; for only EyeBeat, and EyeBeat alone, can both believe in rules and ignore them; both enforce rules impartially and selectively; both reject legalistic interpretations of law in favor of a higher moral authority and childishly cling to them as a defense. He transcends knowledge and truth! You will not find a more remarkable or public example of pure and blinding cognitive dissonance in this community. His black turns to white immediately but without seam or hint of gray; he swings the sword of justice to smite innocent and guilty alike in a single series of strokes, and with the same cool smile of indifference. He bears hypocrisy as a badge of honor upon his breast and denies its very presence! Who among us finds reason to query his motives? Not I; for I have glanced upon his countenance and fallen to the ground dazed, disarranged, disoriented. No man of woman born may digest his platitudes or discern his reason.

TL;DR: Why play by the rules when you believe yourself to be above them? Discretion has no meaning. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on October 26, 2012, 03:08:10 pm
That is what the M key is for.

I come down hard on people for twing and tking out of spawn.  There is absolutely no reason for it.  When there is no enemies around you should not be twing or tking.  When I witness it myself I will do something about it.  If I get complaints in admin chat and it is happening on the other team.  I will sacrifice my multiplier go spectator to see what is happening and do something about it. 

He's an administrator, which means something different to him than it does the others who share his rank (but, consequently, not his attitude). If you scan this thread, you'll find that he claims the mere privilege of authority is justification for its application, and that rules are not really a good means of determining who gets punished--his own intuition, augmented by nothing weaker than his own emotional stream of consciousness, is sufficient guidance for application of administrative discipline. If you don't trust his feelings to be fair and balanced, he will nevertheless disregard you and continue his clearly impartial repression and ask why you don't believe his actions to be just--nay, higher and more noble than mere virtue; for only EyeBeat, and EyeBeat alone, can both believe in rules and ignore them; both enforce rules impartially and selectively; both reject legalistic interpretations of law in favor of a higher moral authority and childishly cling to them as a defense. He transcends knowledge and truth! You will not find a more remarkable or public example of pure and blinding cognitive dissonance in this community. His black turns to white immediately but without seam or hint of gray; he swings the sword of justice to smite innocent and guilty alike in a single series of strokes, and with the same cool smile of indifference. He bears hypocrisy as a badge of honor upon his breast and denies its very presence! Who among us finds reason to query his motives? Not I; for I have glanced upon his countenance and fallen to the ground dazed, disarranged, disoriented. No man of woman born may digest his platitudes or discern his reason.

TL;DR: Why play by the rules when you believe yourself to be above them? Discretion has no meaning. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14)

I need more of this.  At least someone gets it.  Unfortunately it is someone I never banned or used my power against. 
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 26, 2012, 09:25:01 pm
Eyebeat is wrst admin cuz he sucks cuz he kills me evrytim and i cry  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: genric on October 27, 2012, 01:34:02 am
Eyebeat is wrst admin cuz he sucks cuz he kills me evrytim and i cry  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Then he bans you
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on November 03, 2012, 09:13:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBNKUda-s6M
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on December 28, 2012, 09:52:45 pm
Bumping my thread so people can complain.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: JasonPastman on January 30, 2013, 02:05:08 am
So eye beat how is amat telling me that he fucked my mother after tking me, "ok."

Is that not a violation of,
"No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)"

Furthermore, Amat has a reputation for excessive team wounding and has been posted on many times, when I "Med" him it was the 3rd that round.

This appears to be a case of a biased admin making decisions based on clan ties.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-amatsuka_of_bird-45100/
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/usa_amatsuka_of_bird/
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-amatsuka_of_bird/
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: oohillac on February 12, 2013, 08:42:20 pm
Still a good admin, hasn't been infected with the popularity-contest bullshit that's got a few other NA admins.  Doesn't change the map to arena, doesn't put away his weapons to hug enemies, doesn't ignore obvious delaying.

+10

The only players who seem to dislike him are the usual trolls/griefers that can't stand the fact he doesn't find them "cool."
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on February 18, 2013, 06:56:31 am
So eye beat how is amat telling me that he fucked my mother after tking me, "ok."

Is that not a violation of,
"No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)"

Furthermore, Amat has a reputation for excessive team wounding and has been posted on many times, when I "Med" him it was the 3rd that round.

This appears to be a case of a biased admin making decisions based on clan ties.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-amatsuka_of_bird-45100/
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/usa_amatsuka_of_bird/
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-amatsuka_of_bird/

I do not favor any individuals based upon my past clan affiliation.  ANYONE FROM LLJK CAN TELL YOU THAT.  Trash talking is accepted in CRPG.  As long as it is by the rules and not in excess.  If I banned everyone that talked shit to me I would not be an admin anymore.

Still a good admin, hasn't been infected with the popularity-contest bullshit that's got a few other NA admins.  Doesn't change the map to arena, doesn't put away his weapons to hug enemies, doesn't ignore obvious delaying.

+10

The only players who seem to dislike him are the usual trolls/griefers that can't stand the fact he doesn't find them "cool."

Thanks for the support.

I am just trying to play this game from the perspective from a new player.  I am not associated with any clans anymore.  I very seldom jump on clan vents and if I do I only stay for like 10 minutes usually to talk about another game.

Most of the people that dislike me is for stuff that happened a year ago and they all overlook the other positive things I tried to do and only focused on the negative things(debatable). 

Since I do not really socialize with other players/clans in this game the only opinion of me that gets passed around is one of the other clan mates I had in the past.  No big deal but I will not be disappointed in the fact I will never have a positive vote on here.  I enjoy this game to much to care about that.     :D

Here is a pic to lighten the mood.

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Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: JasonPastman on February 23, 2013, 01:44:50 am
I do not favor any individuals based upon my past clan affiliation.  ANYONE FROM LLJK CAN TELL YOU THAT.  Trash talking is accepted in CRPG.  As long as it is by the rules and not in excess.  If I banned everyone that talked shit to me I would not be an admin anymore.

You said in the ban thread, "I was on when "this" supposedly happened." "Supposedly,"is the word I take issue with as this did actually happen and use of such a word suggests that I am fabricating these accusations. Furthermore, at the time Amatsuka had been chronically team wounding other players and was warned to stop in the ban thread by other admins. You did not acknowledge this fact either and totally dismissed the thread.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: oohillac on March 05, 2013, 08:29:25 am
Keep up the good work Eyebeat!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Rhodri_of_Wessex on July 06, 2013, 02:36:25 pm
So this Badmin is going around abusing power and tripping around muting people he disagrees with or discussing the possibility of him being a cheat. This guy should be removed from his position before innocent folks start getting abused.

I'm seeing that he has been an issue since last year in 2012 and possibly longer, how the fuck does this clown still have admin powers?!
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Shadowren on July 06, 2013, 10:34:41 pm
Admin abuse u say? Hmm im seeing a pattern here....

http://forum.meleegaming.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=16559
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Darkkarma on July 06, 2013, 10:46:21 pm
Literally the whole first page of post history is him complaining about admins.

The monitor tan is strong with this one.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on July 07, 2013, 01:26:35 pm
So this Badmin is going around abusing power and tripping around muting people he disagrees with or discussing the possibility of him being a cheat. This guy should be removed from his position before innocent folks start getting abused.

I'm seeing that he has been an issue since last year in 2012 and possibly longer, how the fuck does this clown still have admin powers?!

I am seeing you have been an issue.

Seems like you have an issue with authority.  I am sorry you feel this way.  You can still play the game while muted.

EDIT: oh my is he part of the Wessex clan that was on Darkfall back in the day?  Makes sense since the Coalition of the Chillin' destroyed them and I was a big part of that.... :)
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Rhodri_of_Wessex on July 07, 2013, 08:39:50 pm
Goonsquad eh? Makes sense, you act like a nonsensical and irrational fool.


I'm seeing a pattern too, people with Admin who shouldn't have it, plenty of people in the community voicing their discontent towards them and the arbitrary argument that they the actions of Admins are just only because they have power.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Pollux on November 26, 2013, 09:30:19 pm
this admin banned me for fist-bumping a bro. can't say I approve of his regulation.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Soulreaver on November 26, 2013, 09:49:13 pm
That admin deserves to be in top 10 badmins of crpg servers  :).
Only badmin can watch multiple teamkills
(click to show/hide)
and to type something like this
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There is no such rule that forbids me to use ballista! But there is a rule that forbids you to kill other players intentionally.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on November 27, 2013, 04:49:58 am
That admin deserves to be in top 10 badmins of crpg servers  :).
Only badmin can watch multiple teamkills
(click to show/hide)
and to type something like this
(click to show/hide)
There is no such rule that forbids me to use ballista! But there is a rule that forbids you to kill other players intentionally.

There are arguements that go both ways in that situation.  I am trying to be lenient and give you both warnings since both of you posted in the thread and understand what you did was wrong.

However...  No matter what I do I am wrong.  If I ban someone I am too harsh.  If I do not I am too lenient.  I feel like I am at work!   :mad:

These back to back situations prove it.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on June 27, 2014, 11:04:33 am
For the record, I'm nearing my 5th ban.

The partyboy one does not count.

Desire's also should not count. He/she will back me up on that one.

Copy that.  Thanks for telling me which bans on your record count or do not count. 
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: EyeBeat on June 27, 2014, 11:16:07 am
You brought it up.
Yeah I was just reminding you how many you have on record.

That way it is not a surprise later on.
Title: Re: [NA] EyeBeat
Post by: Shadowren on June 27, 2014, 03:44:10 pm
Btw EyeBeat i love your Signature xD