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Title: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Keshian on December 11, 2011, 03:36:48 pm
Increasingly there is more rage and less fun with strategus and I believe a lot of it stems with making setting up  fo a battle take 10x as much time as it did with strat 1.0, which dealing with all the tedious micromanaging of caravans and crafting and high troop upkeep and slow travel time just to fight one abttle that it just doesnt feel worth it when you finally get to fight a 1000 v 1000 peasant battle.

So when were battles in Strategus most enjoyable for you?


P.S. Me personally - loved Strat 1.0 with constant large battles everyday and ranged and cav and good armor on both sides with many many tickets.  Strat 2.0 in the beginning almost as fun with rounceys and weaker armor and limited amounts of ranged gear could be afforded.  Strat 3.0 haven't really had  a "fun" fight so far and am getting pretty bored.  I personally think Strategus should stick to where it was strong - its absed on one of the ebst combat systems out there, so focus on that, don't try to keep going in some odd direction with this hugely elaborate and mind-numbingly boring amount of micromanagement of a Civilization game, while the opportunity to make use of the combat engine gets shuffled to the side for the most part as well as the opportunity to have a wide variety of classes and gear.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Bjarky on December 11, 2011, 03:46:54 pm
hmmm, i actually have to say v1 was the most enjoyable for me in terms of battles.
we had alot of fun battles, cus we could afford it, plus there was room for RP battles too  :D
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Aseldo on December 11, 2011, 06:29:26 pm
I wasn't around for version 1(well I was but I was too newb to understand it and not in a clan) so I have to say version 2 was the best :)
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 11, 2011, 06:54:49 pm
I have played all strat iterations to date. And, to date, I like strat 3 the best. Why?....

Well Firstly, I find that my 100 man army goes 10 times further than it EVER did in strat 1/2. In strat 1, large armies were the norm, in strat 2, army sizes got reduced, but were STILL fairly large. we had several 4k man armies battling near the end of strat 2. Strat 3, has had 1 4k man battle. I like that. Army sizes shouldn't be these huge masses and 1 hit wonders. Should be smaller armies, and it is.

2, ability to make money is a plus for me. It takes time, and coordination. Both of which are much harder in grand organizations. A small group, such as mine has more than half of it's group active meaning we can do way more even though we are small. Many disagree with trading, but it adds a necessary risk mechanic into the game. Before you could just have someone sit in city and just earn gold. He never had to leave and risk attack and you had steady gold streams. Now, you have to risk the money. If it doesn't pay off, then you will find that you're losing money.

Now item costs, I think that they are a tad(tad) expensive. I believe that items should be adjusted based on  wanted use. 1h/shields should be amongst the cheapest to equip then pole then archer/xbow then 2h then cav. This would mean that price per ticket of a 1h should be lower than equivalent 2h. Mail armor should be 1/3 of army for a decent sized faction.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Casimir on December 11, 2011, 07:39:51 pm
There are way more than one 4k armies around anders
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Lt_Anders on December 11, 2011, 07:47:28 pm
Quote from: Casimir on December 11, 2011, 07:39:51 pm
There are way more than one 4k armies around anders

Oh i know that. I've seen a few. But, those armies aren't ment for battles against villages, and shouldn't be. The emirin battle shows clearly that battles shouldn't be large like that. In v2, 4k army battles were almost standard, but now that's a MASSIVE gold sink and not practical.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Knute on December 11, 2011, 07:49:44 pm
I haven't taken part in many battles during any version but the most fun experience I had was a town defense (Curaw?) in strat 1.0. 

ATS were attacking and the battle seemed to seesaw back and forth until I think they won.  The roster on both sides was completely full and the attackers were decked out in their faction uniform (red surcoat over mail and barbutte) and had better weapons than the defenders so after recovering a section of the wall the defenders would pickup dropped huscarls (?) and form double row shield walls in the towers.  The walls were really crowded and people were falling off left and right, defenders would jump down and break ladders sending the attackers flying, it was awesome. 

I think the server might have been 200 or 150 slots and completely full too.  Also my character John_Justus was a 1h shielder/horse archer hybrid with like 180 wpf in each, so it nice to have the option to play as both a shielder and archer during the battle.

edit: Just to add, I never heard anyone in strat v.1 saying "Hey, this would be better if we were all armed like peasants".  :)
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 11, 2011, 08:44:34 pm
I think your avatar is adorable, Knute, please keep it.

I voted for Strat V2 and not around in V1 (barely missed it). To be fair, I have not played V1 and I gave up after a half dozen battles in V3 had the same gear, so not much experience there.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on December 11, 2011, 10:25:50 pm
Knock 30% off the cost of gear, that would go some way to elevating the grind. Also double the movement speed.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Slamz on December 11, 2011, 11:51:42 pm
Quote from: dangah on December 11, 2011, 10:25:50 pm
Knock 30% off the cost of gear, that would go some way to elevating the grind. Also double the movement speed.

chadz did say he was going to reduce the cost of crafting by 50%.  Said on Nov 25th.  Presumably in the next update of Strategus.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Casimir on December 12, 2011, 03:58:56 am
Best battle innstrat 1.0 was defence of Uxhal, pure str polearm was finally useful that strat...
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:43:13 am
Hmm, Strat 3.0 village defense.
Because Strat 1.0 and 2.0 had these boring "let us wait until the defenders start an attack" and "we shot everything to pieces" tactics.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Keshian on December 12, 2011, 07:01:27 am
Quote from: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:43:13 am
Hmm, Strat 3.0 village defense.
Because Strat 1.0 and 2.0 had these boring "let us wait until the defenders start an attack" and "we shot everything to pieces" tactics.


???? Aren't you with Chaos now??  Isn't village defense this strategus - lets not show up and let you cap all the flags in the first 3-4 minutes of the battle, nowhere near as fun as when everyone would show up on village defense ion previous strat versions.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Xant on December 12, 2011, 07:20:09 am
I like that battles matter more now. Losing - or winning - means something when you can't pump out another well equipped army immediately. Makes the battles more fun, too.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 07:24:29 am
Most things where best in strategus 1.0. Now everything takes to much time and effort really. Just see as we had to pull out from some fiefs this time around because we could not afford defending our own fiefs.
Same as the Greys did in Toshdar today, no equipment.

Basicly 1.0 best in all areas, and less chance of cheating. specially that you cant have 100 friends farming for you. You had to play cRPG to get gold.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: ManOfWar on December 12, 2011, 08:25:02 am
Quote from: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 07:24:29 am
Most things where best in strategus 1.0. Now everything takes to much time and effort really. Just see as we had to pull out from some fiefs this time around because we could not afford defending our own fiefs.
Same as the Greys did in Toshdar today, no equipment.

Basicly 1.0 best in all areas, and less chance of cheating. specially that you cant have 100 friends farming for you. You had to play cRPG to get gold.

I miss 1.0

Now Strategus has turned into ECONOMY MANAGER SIM
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Canary on December 12, 2011, 08:33:41 am
Quote from: Keshian on December 12, 2011, 07:01:27 am

???? Aren't you with Chaos now??  Isn't village defense this strategus - lets not show up and let you cap all the flags in the first 3-4 minutes of the battle, nowhere near as fun as when everyone would show up on village defense ion previous strat versions.

Our Mala goes by Malaclypse (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=5362).

Also - there is definitely nothing fun about our village attacks on either side, it is true. The downside to being uninvolved with a large-scale conflict that's happening is that people seem to think signing up against you will cause your favor to tip to the other side I guess. Either that or everybody just likes us so much they don't want to piss us off or cost us gold or something... anyhow fighting against two random dudes for every village is pretty dang boring, and I assume those two dudes aren't having much fun watching their village getting stolen from underneath them either.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Malaclypse on December 12, 2011, 08:39:06 am
LLJK's attack on Tismirr in 3.0 is one of the best times I've had so far in strat. As long as I sign up on the LLJK side against a neutral village, I will almost always get to face a stocked roster.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Phazey on December 12, 2011, 11:58:32 am
I honestly think the whole trade system isn't an improvement. It increases micromanagement dramatically and many of us don't want that.

All i want is a big, epic strategus battle once or twice a week. That's enough for me. If i wanted a trading game, i'd go play Eve or something.

Not saying it's bad, just saying it's not what i want from strategus.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Thovex on December 12, 2011, 12:07:45 pm
Quote from: Phazey on December 12, 2011, 11:58:32 am
I honestly think the whole trade system isn't an improvement. It increases micromanagement dramatically and many of us don't want that.

All i want is a big, epic strategus battle once or twice a week. That's enough for me. If i wanted a trading game, i'd go play Eve or something.

Not saying it's bad, just saying it's not what i want from strategus.

Exactly my mind.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 12:27:00 pm
Quote from: Keshian on December 12, 2011, 07:01:27 am

???? Aren't you with Chaos now??  Isn't village defense this strategus - lets not show up and let you cap all the flags in the first 3-4 minutes of the battle, nowhere near as fun as when everyone would show up on village defense ion previous strat versions.

The xp gain is not that great, that is why no one shows up. But equipment wise you have a cahnce to fight back now.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 01:33:17 pm
Quote from: Mala on December 12, 2011, 12:27:00 pm
The xp gain is not that great, that is why no one shows up. But equipment wise you have a cahnce to fight back now.
That is totally wrong, last 3 defenses we did had the AI bought 5000 head wrappings and a total of 10000 hats for 500 population. So no chance to fight back as it is now. Add as well the 50ish vs 13 defenders and you get a free fief.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2011, 01:51:19 pm
I enjoyed the Nordmen battles in Mijayet at least as much as I did any of the battles in Strat 1 or Strat 2, but it's certainly true that there's less going on these days than there was in the first Strat. However, I blame the player base for that rather than the game itself. It's not that the capability to fight battles isn't there because of the trading system or whatever, it's just that most of the clans aren't doing anything interesting.

So where's the "all of them" option anyway? Or is that supposed to be represented by "none"?
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 01:55:39 pm
So the low defender numbers is the fault of the ai?
The only reason that strat1 battles/sieges had more players was that you got a way more xp than in battle mode.

Lately i had not much time for strat battles and the ones i have fought it was always a peasant army of defenders against another peasant army and not knights and heavy fighters like in strat 1 (and the hordes of archers).
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2011, 02:07:28 pm
Quote from: Mala on December 12, 2011, 01:55:39 pm
So the low defender numbers is the fault of the ai?
The only reason that strat1 battles/sieges had more players was that you got a way more xp than in battle mode.

Yeah, I always figured there were two reasons people weren't turning up: fear of reprisals and lack of rewards. The latter should be at least somewhat fixed now, haven't tested it to see if it's worth playing yet but going by what chadz said it's at least greatly improved from what it was after the start of Strat 3.

Quote from: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 01:33:17 pm
That is totally wrong, last 3 defenses we did had the AI bought 5000 head wrappings and a total of 10000 hats for 500 population.

I never saw this in any of the battles I played, defenders always had reasonable-quality gear with correct amounts. You should post a thread in Strat Issues about this if you haven't already, with all the relevant details. Dunno, might be a new issue caused by some change chadz made more recently.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Darkkarma on December 12, 2011, 02:15:34 pm
Any of the many, many Sumbuja defenses in version 2. Both before the gold wipe and after. I wasn't really around for strat version 1.0 and 3.0 somehow managed to still turn into a world war within weeks despite the map being split to half NA and half EU.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: [ptx] on December 12, 2011, 02:28:07 pm
Strat V1, early village battles and some of the first battles of the 22nd-Templar bloc war. Just good, proper fighting. Then people discovered massed ranged spam.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 04:03:37 pm
Quote from: Mala on December 12, 2011, 01:55:39 pm
So the low defender numbers is the fault of the ai?
yeah it is basically, no payment and shitty gear, who wanna join ?

if the AI payed as they did before (i rather support a 200 gold for village pr defender kinda rule) so the players actually can get strat gold from a battle and if AI use there gold in a better way. buying 10000 hats and 5000 dresses with 500 population is kinda game breaking.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: okiN on December 12, 2011, 04:25:45 pm
Quote from: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 04:03:37 pm
buying 10000 hats and 5000 dresses with 500 population is kinda game breaking.
Quote from: okiN on December 12, 2011, 02:07:28 pm
I never saw this in any of the battles I played, defenders always had reasonable-quality gear with correct amounts. You should post a thread in Strat Issues about this if you haven't already, with all the relevant details. Dunno, might be a new issue caused by some change chadz made more recently.

Whenever I played on AI defence they had good gear, and in Mijayet we used it to kill an attacking army of 1k. Likewise when we conquered Aab by capturing flags we got some very nice gear that the defenders weren't able to use. If there's some new problem, report it.

I agree with you about the gold payments, though, it'd be nice if the AI fiefs just paid out a flat rate instead of forcing people to apply with 0 gold. Then again gold payments are pretty much fucked right now even for factions.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:23:53 pm
Quote from: Gingerpussy on December 12, 2011, 04:03:37 pm
yeah it is basically, no payment and shitty gear, who wanna join ?

if the AI payed as they did before (i rather support a 200 gold for village pr defender kinda rule) so the players actually can get strat gold from a battle and if AI use there gold in a better way. buying 10000 hats and 5000 dresses with 500 population is kinda game breaking.

I think that is related to the no faction status. i was not able to pay my soldiers before i have created my own faction.
Anyway, are the few hundreds of c-rpg gold that important to you?
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Keshian on December 12, 2011, 06:13:59 pm
Quote from: Mala on December 12, 2011, 05:23:53 pm
I think that is related to the no faction status. i was not able to pay my soldiers before i have created my own faction.
Anyway, are the few hundreds of c-rpg gold that important to you?

Yeah, it does make a difference - thats like 1-3 hours of playing crpg to make strategus gold.  If you have 4-5 guys regularly fighting 1-2 battles a day - yes, it makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Slamz on December 12, 2011, 10:27:59 pm
Quote from: Phazey on December 12, 2011, 11:58:32 am
I honestly think the whole trade system isn't an improvement. It increases micromanagement dramatically and many of us don't want that.

All i want is a big, epic strategus battle once or twice a week. That's enough for me. If i wanted a trading game, i'd go play Eve or something.

Not saying it's bad, just saying it's not what i want from strategus.

So... don't do it?

The average NH member doesn't have to do anything in Strategus.  Sign in every few days and give me your goods and that's it.

Once in a while I hand someone money and tell them what to craft, which they hand me, and then it's back to goods.  Arguably, if there's any problem here it's that most Strategus players DON'T have to do anything.  There's me, who coordinates the goods and a lot of the crafting.  There's Diggles who manages the fief and the armory.  Sometimes we'll have a couple of players outfit with troops and gear for raiding, scouting or defense but otherwise most people are just sitting there, making goods.

If you're one person managing a 30-man clan, then it's time to start delegating.

I think a lot of people are enjoying the new trade system, either as a trader or as a raider.  It certainly looks better to me than having a world of people sitting in fiefs just doing "work" to generate gold, with no reason to move anywhere, ever, but even so, I bet 9 out of 10 Strategus players aren't doing anything other than making goods and sitting there anyway.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Dehitay on December 13, 2011, 12:31:39 am
The previous version of Strat was definitely a hell of a lot funner. But I actually think the trading system is an improvement. It forces people to make targets of themselves if they want to make good money.

However, this version was fucked up by the ridiculously slow economy. First, they increase prices on everything four fold. Then they reduce income. They raise upkeep. After making moving across the map vital to a successful economy, they proceed to nerf movement speed based on troop size. Then that wasn't enough of a fuck over so they nerf movement speed yet again. While I agree holding cargo should make you more of a target, they didn't have to pile this movement nerf on top of the old one.

The sad part about this all is that the entire thing could be made awesome so fucking easily. All you have to do is revert prices back to their old values and double movement speed. You would actually start seeing armies with more than sticks and stones.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Huey Newton on December 13, 2011, 06:01:45 am
1.0 and 2.0 were the best

3.0 blows to date
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: BlackMilk on December 13, 2011, 07:35:22 am
1.0 was ..not before my time but I never really understood what it was about
2.0 was fun
3.0 is meh
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Keshian on April 14, 2013, 06:11:22 am
I think we should revert all of strategus to strat 1.0 with the current balancing of the weapons that has occurred since then and keep the siege equipment.  So much fun to be had - and we will call it - Strategus V
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: arowaine on April 14, 2013, 08:18:47 am
missing strat 4 best one so far many bug according to dupplicate gear broken siege engine best mechanic too! so far best one
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Matey on April 14, 2013, 07:27:29 pm
thread is from december 2011 :P. But yeah I agree arow, 4 has been the best.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Corsair831 on April 14, 2013, 08:05:30 pm
*equips rose coloured glasses +3*
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: partyboy on April 15, 2013, 02:24:57 am
I like when there were no time limits on battles an the Northern Empire took a castle simply by waiting outside of it until all the defenders got bored and left.  Felt like a real siege.  BRING BACK IMMERSION
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Zaren on April 15, 2013, 07:07:16 am
I liked how playing in normal crpg used to benefit you in strat(more than just a few gold). Idk if people liked the "all thine hard work thing" but at least it made playing in the normal servers have an impact and feel related to strat.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Segd on April 16, 2013, 06:37:39 am
Stat 4. Since it's the first strat when I play as xbow(being infantry is very painful :) )
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Haboe on April 16, 2013, 10:56:44 am
I remember 2 awesome days/ nights of battle.

The purge of the order of the rose, ten-thousands of naked men being slaughtered during 2-3 battles.


And the night where mercs got attacked. They were naked, yet managed to kill a load of enemy's by looting weps.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on April 16, 2013, 03:01:55 pm
IT LIVEEEEEES!
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Oberyn on April 17, 2013, 04:05:54 pm
Beta strat siege, which I guess doesn't really count since it was just a gold limit and no one was actually on the strat map yet. It was laggy as fuck, no one knew how to siege a castle yet, barely anyone knew how to use ladders properly, but the element of novelty was still enough to make me enjoy it a lot. I felt more invested in that siege than anything related to the Strat map afterwards.

Although for the first half of V1 I was still really into it and all the "diplomacy" and balance of power between the clans, I lost interest after that. When the Templar block collapsed like the paper tiger it was and DRZ muscled into the power vaccuum, the first signs of stagnation and of two opposing power blocks started to emerge, with no room for independent factions to do anything except align with either side or disapear, especially small clans. It was and still is a lot more chaotic than that simple explanation, but I had imagined Strat as a lot more fluid in terms of land grabs and wars of conquest. Not even wipes can eliminate the meta-alliances, which endure version after version. It might be more realistic this way, but like someone said in thread it doesn't take advantage of the best part of cRPG, which is the combat. Too many civ nation building elements.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Visconti on April 17, 2013, 06:03:56 pm
Best battles were in strat 2 by far. You might not have got nearly as much xp as you get now, but the gear was normally lighter and the fights more fun (besides the EU archer spam). So much so that getting up at 4:00 AM for some of the fights just added to the experience. All strat is now is heavy cav spam with plate crutches. Still fun, but not nearly as good.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: BarBeQ on April 17, 2013, 06:24:17 pm
>>>>>>>>
(click to show/hide)

Peasants defending Yalen vs Shiny Knights with tons of siege equipment.
We broke every fucking ladder in split seconds and raped them old school styleez.
As they´ve had lost all their ladders they retreated, it was so glorious.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Casimir on April 22, 2013, 03:08:59 am
Quote from: Oberyn on April 17, 2013, 04:05:54 pm
Beta strat siege, which I guess doesn't really count since it was just a gold limit and no one was actually on the strat map yet. It was laggy as fuck, no one knew how to siege a castle yet, barely anyone knew how to use ladders properly, but the element of novelty was still enough to make me enjoy it a lot. I felt more invested in that siege than anything related to the Strat map afterwards.

Although for the first half of V1 I was still really into it and all the "diplomacy" and balance of power between the clans, I lost interest after that. When the Templar block collapsed like the paper tiger it was and DRZ muscled into the power vaccuum, the first signs of stagnation and of two opposing power blocks started to emerge, with no room for independent factions to do anything except align with either side or disapear, especially small clans. It was and still is a lot more chaotic than that simple explanation, but I had imagined Strat as a lot more fluid in terms of land grabs and wars of conquest. Not even wipes can eliminate the meta-alliances, which endure version after version. It might be more realistic this way, but like someone said in thread it doesn't take advantage of the best part of cRPG, which is the combat. Too many civ nation building elements.

Being as i was forged in the fires of that war, joining the templars as they reached the hight of their power, i have many fond memories of strat 1.  The novelty of it all for me was amazing, granted strat 1 was a buggy, abused, unintuitive mess, but it all seems great with the rose tinted glasses.

The game has become more balanced and user friendly, the players have gotten worse.
Title: Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
Post by: Keshian on April 22, 2013, 05:06:55 am
Quote from: Visconti on April 17, 2013, 06:03:56 pm
Best battles were in strat 2 by far. You might not have got nearly as much xp as you get now, but the gear was normally lighter and the fights more fun (besides the EU archer spam). So much so that getting up at 4:00 AM for some of the fights just added to the experience. All strat is now is heavy cav spam with plate crutches. Still fun, but not nearly as good.

Wholeheartedly agree, really miss having both sides use mid-tier to slightly lower tier gear in the vast majority of fights.  Economic system was actually a lot more balanced back then.