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In which version were the most enjoyable battles of Strategus for you?

Strategus 1.0
45 (26.3%)
Strategus 2.0
31 (18.1%)
Strategus 3.0
25 (14.6%)
None
27 (15.8%)
Strategus 2.0 ( I never played Startegus 1.0 - before my time)
23 (13.5%)
Strategus 3.0 (I never played Strategus 1.0 - before my time)
16 (9.4%)
Strategus 4.0
4 (2.3%)

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Increasingly there is more rage and less fun with strategus and I believe a lot of it stems with making setting up  fo a battle take 10x as much time as it did with strat 1.0, which dealing with all the tedious micromanaging of caravans and crafting and high troop upkeep and slow travel time just to fight one abttle that it just doesnt feel worth it when you finally get to fight a 1000 v 1000 peasant battle.

So when were battles in Strategus most enjoyable for you?


P.S. Me personally - loved Strat 1.0 with constant large battles everyday and ranged and cav and good armor on both sides with many many tickets.  Strat 2.0 in the beginning almost as fun with rounceys and weaker armor and limited amounts of ranged gear could be afforded.  Strat 3.0 haven't really had  a "fun" fight so far and am getting pretty bored.  I personally think Strategus should stick to where it was strong - its absed on one of the ebst combat systems out there, so focus on that, don't try to keep going in some odd direction with this hugely elaborate and mind-numbingly boring amount of micromanagement of a Civilization game, while the opportunity to make use of the combat engine gets shuffled to the side for the most part as well as the opportunity to have a wide variety of classes and gear.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 03:46:54 pm »
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hmmm, i actually have to say v1 was the most enjoyable for me in terms of battles.
we had alot of fun battles, cus we could afford it, plus there was room for RP battles too  :D

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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 06:29:26 pm »
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I wasn't around for version 1(well I was but I was too newb to understand it and not in a clan) so I have to say version 2 was the best :)

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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 06:54:49 pm »
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I have played all strat iterations to date. And, to date, I like strat 3 the best. Why?....

Well Firstly, I find that my 100 man army goes 10 times further than it EVER did in strat 1/2. In strat 1, large armies were the norm, in strat 2, army sizes got reduced, but were STILL fairly large. we had several 4k man armies battling near the end of strat 2. Strat 3, has had 1 4k man battle. I like that. Army sizes shouldn't be these huge masses and 1 hit wonders. Should be smaller armies, and it is.

2, ability to make money is a plus for me. It takes time, and coordination. Both of which are much harder in grand organizations. A small group, such as mine has more than half of it's group active meaning we can do way more even though we are small. Many disagree with trading, but it adds a necessary risk mechanic into the game. Before you could just have someone sit in city and just earn gold. He never had to leave and risk attack and you had steady gold streams. Now, you have to risk the money. If it doesn't pay off, then you will find that you're losing money.

Now item costs, I think that they are a tad(tad) expensive. I believe that items should be adjusted based on  wanted use. 1h/shields should be amongst the cheapest to equip then pole then archer/xbow then 2h then cav. This would mean that price per ticket of a 1h should be lower than equivalent 2h. Mail armor should be 1/3 of army for a decent sized faction.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2011, 07:39:51 pm »
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There are way more than one 4k armies around anders
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2011, 07:47:28 pm »
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There are way more than one 4k armies around anders

Oh i know that. I've seen a few. But, those armies aren't ment for battles against villages, and shouldn't be. The emirin battle shows clearly that battles shouldn't be large like that. In v2, 4k army battles were almost standard, but now that's a MASSIVE gold sink and not practical.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2011, 07:49:44 pm »
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I haven't taken part in many battles during any version but the most fun experience I had was a town defense (Curaw?) in strat 1.0. 

ATS were attacking and the battle seemed to seesaw back and forth until I think they won.  The roster on both sides was completely full and the attackers were decked out in their faction uniform (red surcoat over mail and barbutte) and had better weapons than the defenders so after recovering a section of the wall the defenders would pickup dropped huscarls (?) and form double row shield walls in the towers.  The walls were really crowded and people were falling off left and right, defenders would jump down and break ladders sending the attackers flying, it was awesome. 

I think the server might have been 200 or 150 slots and completely full too.  Also my character John_Justus was a 1h shielder/horse archer hybrid with like 180 wpf in each, so it nice to have the option to play as both a shielder and archer during the battle.

edit: Just to add, I never heard anyone in strat v.1 saying "Hey, this would be better if we were all armed like peasants".  :)
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2011, 08:44:34 pm »
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I think your avatar is adorable, Knute, please keep it.

I voted for Strat V2 and not around in V1 (barely missed it). To be fair, I have not played V1 and I gave up after a half dozen battles in V3 had the same gear, so not much experience there.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 10:25:50 pm »
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Knock 30% off the cost of gear, that would go some way to elevating the grind. Also double the movement speed.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 11:51:42 pm »
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Knock 30% off the cost of gear, that would go some way to elevating the grind. Also double the movement speed.

chadz did say he was going to reduce the cost of crafting by 50%.  Said on Nov 25th.  Presumably in the next update of Strategus.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2011, 03:58:56 am »
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Best battle innstrat 1.0 was defence of Uxhal, pure str polearm was finally useful that strat...
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 05:43:13 am »
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Hmm, Strat 3.0 village defense.
Because Strat 1.0 and 2.0 had these boring "let us wait until the defenders start an attack" and "we shot everything to pieces" tactics.

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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 07:01:27 am »
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Hmm, Strat 3.0 village defense.
Because Strat 1.0 and 2.0 had these boring "let us wait until the defenders start an attack" and "we shot everything to pieces" tactics.


???? Aren't you with Chaos now??  Isn't village defense this strategus - lets not show up and let you cap all the flags in the first 3-4 minutes of the battle, nowhere near as fun as when everyone would show up on village defense ion previous strat versions.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 07:20:09 am »
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I like that battles matter more now. Losing - or winning - means something when you can't pump out another well equipped army immediately. Makes the battles more fun, too.
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Re: What were the most enjoyable battles for you (strat 1.0, 2.0, 3.0) (poll)
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 07:24:29 am »
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Most things where best in strategus 1.0. Now everything takes to much time and effort really. Just see as we had to pull out from some fiefs this time around because we could not afford defending our own fiefs.
Same as the Greys did in Toshdar today, no equipment.

Basicly 1.0 best in all areas, and less chance of cheating. specially that you cant have 100 friends farming for you. You had to play cRPG to get gold.
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