since you call yourself Kalam I am going to assume you have been reading Steven Erikson.
The enitre Crippled God Series : Steven Erikson (http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0765322889/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878009&sr=1-1)
speaks for itself.... its great. nothing more needs to be said
Anything by K.J Parker (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=kj+parker)
I have read everything he has published so far, and I think he is a very level author when it comes to presenting a tory. He definately doesnt play favorites, and likes to show his readers how ugly he thinks human nature can be.
Here is a HUGE list of favorites....
I read too much. seriously.
Series:
The Sun Sword 6 books total. Michelle Sagara West
Book 1 is: the broken crown (http://www.amazon.com/Broken-Crown-Sun-Sword-Book/dp/0886777402/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878136&sr=1-2)
Awesome series. The first book is a little slow, but very necessary to the overall plot and understanding of the different factions, and WHY they are fighting
Series ends the plotline very well. Leaves many many story lines still open and waiting to be finished. But those will be in a different series. This one is about the sun sword.
Starts AND finishes very strong. Good reading.
Perdido Street Station (http://www.amazon.com/Perdido-Street-Station-China-Mieville/dp/0345459407/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878205&sr=1-1) China Mieville
One of the best Fing novels you will read
Very good steampunk/horror book. Once the scientist gets the butterfly, its pretty much not put downable. I like the spider.
The Scar (http://www.amazon.com/Scar-China-Mieville/dp/0345460014/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878245&sr=1-1) China Mieville
Same universe, different char
Fantastic novel. Love the possibility engine. Uthor Doul. UTHOR DOUL!!!!! Floating cities are awesome. The end.
Dont really bother reading the third book (the Iron Council) not even the same caliber. Some cool ideas about golems, but not cool enough to read again.
Pandora Star (http://www.amazon.com/Pandoras-Star-Peter-F-Hamilton/dp/0345479211/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878277&sr=1-1) Peter F Hamilton
Judas Unchained (http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Unchained-Peter-F-Hamilton/dp/0345461673/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b) Peter F Hamilton
Bad. Ass. Series. Man vs aliens. There are more books in this universe, but they get all existential like the ender books did after the first one. These 2 are a must read. This dude has such a good grasp on science fiction, its a shame these are the only 2 out of the 7 books of his I have read that I am recommending. The second book ends really well, and is totally action packed. Both space and personal combat. Its great. Good wrap up. I love the wormhole transitions, and the progress to space travel (re-progress, I should say).
His other series that I read was the Neutronium Alchemist books. Awesome plot lines, and some of the best ideas for realistic space combat I have ever read. WORST. ENDINGS. EVER. EVAR!
Seriously. The Stephen King of shitty endings. If you are going to be writing about Sci FI, then dont give me a deus ex machina. I would bet all my future paychecks that he couldnt figure out how to end this meandering beast, so he shot it with a godlike event horizon with superpowers and called it a day. What a copout. Read at your own peril.
The Snow Queen (http://www.amazon.com/Snow-Queen-Joan-D-Vinge/dp/0446676640/ref=pd_sim_b_1) Joan D Vinge
The Summer Queen (http://www.amazon.com/Summer-Queen-Joan-D-Vinge/dp/0765304465/ref=pd_sim_b_1) Joan D Vinge
Not really advanced reading, but some really cool ideas. I loved the biotechnology, and some of the ideas about nanoware getting out of control.
Snow Crash (http://www.amazon.com/Snow-Crash-Bantam-Spectra-Book/dp/0553380958/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878520&sr=1-1) Neal Stephenson
Read this book. Its really outdated in terms of actual technology, kinda like how Tron relates to modern computing. But really entertaining. Well worth the read
Series:
First Law 5 books Joe Abercrombie
Book 1 is: The Blade Itself (http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Itself-First-Law-Book/dp/159102594X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878616&sr=1-1)
Read all the books by Joe. They were very entertaining. Even though First law only has three books, there are 5 books in the setting so far. I liked them all. You will like the Bloody Nine. I did. Cool setting, cool sword fighting, subtle magic. Very good combination.
Series:
The Prince of Nothing 5 books. So far. R. Scott Bakker
Book 1 is: The Darkness that Comes Before (http://www.amazon.com/Darkness-Comes-Before-Prince-Nothing/dp/1585676772/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878874&sr=1-1)
Let me preface this by saying I absolutely HATE Khellus. Very good series. The Mandate Schoolman is my favorite character. When you finally see what he is capable of . Its awesome. The three book series ended in a way that made me rage and want to do evil things to bad people. It makes for GREAT reading. Its not over yet after this series. He is only half way through the second series in this cycle. It starts with The Judging Eye (the Aspect Emperor), and the second book comes out this month. Continues where the first series ended.
The use of magic in this series is compelling. And the way normal people look at magicians makes for a really cool setting. Not to mention the sci-fi aspects only hinted at throughout this entire series. The ark from heaven?? The spear of light?? Yeah . Judge for yourself. I loved these books.
Series:
The Crossroads 3 books Kate Elliot
The Crown of Stars 7 books Kate Elliot
I have liked everything that I have read by Kate Elliot. Nothing spectacular, but 2 very solid series by Kate. I like the crossroads better, but the crown of stars kept me interested the entire time. I could write a ton about these books, so you will just have to read them.
Books 1 are: Spirit Gate (http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Gate-Crossroads-Book-1/dp/B0014E3MWO/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297879017&sr=1-1), and Kings Dragon (http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Dragon-Crown-Stars-Vol/dp/0886777712/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297878966&sr=1-1)
Banewreaker (http://www.amazon.com/Banewreaker-I-Sundering-Jacqueline-Carey/dp/0765344297/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1297879045&sr=1-1) Jacqueline Carey
Godslayer (http://www.amazon.com/Godslayer-II-Sundering-Jacqueline-Carey/dp/076535098X/ref=pd_sim_b_1) Jacqueline Carey
Fantastic mini-series. Probably the only thing she has written worth reading. A little similar to LOTR, but WELL worth the reading. This series is great, and so tragic.
Once I'm done with the Engineer Trilogy, I think I've only got the Fencer trilogy left.
HOLY SHIT I WENT TO THE BLOG OF MY FAVORITE BOOK AND THE SECOND IS COMING OUT!!!!
In descending order of how bushy their beards are
The Name of the Wind Book I - Patrick Rothfuss BEST AUTHER IN TEH WORLD (http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/books.asp)
The Wise Man's Fears Book II - Patrick Rothfuss March 2011 (http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/index.asp)
I recommend everyone to read these and anything that comes from him^^^^
Raymond E. Feist and his incredibly long series of 28 books, I'm only on 22 (http://www.crydee.com/raymond-feist/book-series)
The Sword of Truth Series - Terry Goodkind Currently on #6 out of 12 books (http://www.sword-of-truth.com/books/the-sword-of-truth)
I just finished The Clumsiest People in Europe, Or: Mrs. Mortimer's Bad-Tempered Guide to the Victorian World (http://www.amazon.com/Clumsiest-People-Europe-Mortimers-Bad-Tempered/dp/1596911506/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1297919275&sr=1-1) by Todd Pruzan
It's the funniest excerpts from a series of kids books written by a cranky British woman in the 1840's. She basically had something nasty to say about people in every country in the world.
HOLY SHIT I WENT TO THE BLOG OF MY FAVORITE BOOK AND THE SECOND IS COMING OUT!!!!
In descending order of how bushy their beards are
The Name of the Wind Book I - Patrick Rothfuss BEST AUTHER IN TEH WORLD (http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/books.asp)
The Wise Man's Fears Book II - Patrick Rothfuss March 2011 (http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/index.asp)
I recommend everyone to read these and anything that comes from him^^^^
Raymond E. Feist and his incredibly long series of 28 books, I'm only on 22 (http://www.crydee.com/raymond-feist/book-series)
The Sword of Truth Series - Terry Goodkind Currently on #6 out of 12 books (http://www.sword-of-truth.com/books/the-sword-of-truth)
Warriors of the Steppes, by Harold Lamb. These are collections of Harold Lambs short stories featuring Khlit the Cossack, aka the Wolf of the Steppes. If you've never read them, I highly recommend them, starting with Wolf of the Steppes.
check out Robert E. Howard as well, especially his Conan stories, they were fantastic.
Will probably read all of Isaac Asimov's books again for fun next.
If you never read a Terry Pratchett book, do yourself a favor and read one, you might just get hooked.
Oh, Arty, if you want unique WWII fiction, my favorite is "The Berkut" by Joseph Heywood. I'm not gonna spoil it for you, but it's a pretty neat tale.
Just finished the Darth Bane trilogy by Drew Karpyshyn. A very good series even though not very medieval.
I think it's pretty much a given the fat bastard is going to keel over and die from a heart attack before he ever finishes the series. I love/hate him as well, but he's probably going to "pull a Jordan", as the people say.
Good old Silmarillion 8-)
honestly?? Gotta love Tolkien.... but that is probably the most boring read on the planet. There are law books I would rather sift through than read that history text again. heh. its a good reference for LOTR, however.
and.... Just started The Crippled God. last book in the Malazan series.
One of the things I loved the most about Martin was that his characters throughout the 4 books actually change with each of their experiences. I really hated Jamie and Tyrion, and now they are probably the most interesting guys in those books. I also like how he isnt afraid to just butcher a main character and get rid of them because they lost a fight. sometimes at random. things arent always fairytale perfect. thats why I like him... just wish he would finish already.
honestly?? Gotta love Tolkien.... but that is probably the most boring read on the planet. There are law books I would rather sift through than read that history text again. heh. its a good reference for LOTR, however.Well, personal favourite of Tolkien, only a real nerd can endure Silmarillion ;) Tough I would still recommend Children Of Hurin over Silmarillion for a newb
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss, truly excellent book, definitely one of the best fantasy books I have ever read.Did you read Wise Man's Fears yet?
Did you read Wise Man's Fears yet?
I love it.
But I feel like it's lacking something that the first one had.
It's coming!!!http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-update.html (http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-update.html)
Also a miniseries and an RTS. Woohoo!!
I need to read more, again.
Reliving my teenage years right now with a healthy dose of Terry Pratchett.
"The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head." - Hogfather
Take that Credulous believers :P!
Finally I would like to share in the rage at G.R.R Martins massivley delayed next novel. The man knows how to write some damn fine fantasy but I hope the fat cunt will hurry up and finish it before he dies of old age. The HBO series did make me blow my load in a nerdgasm of epic proportions though. Sean Bean strikes me as the perfect cast for Ed Stark and I look forward to this and the next book with equal anticipation.
And, when is the HBO series going to air? And how the hell can they air it when his series is likely still 10-12 years from being finished? He says he has at least 2 more books for the series, and this last one took ALMOST SIX DAMN YEARS TO COMPLETE.
A series I did enjoy immensely and hasn't been mentioned yet is The Dresden Files (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Files) by Jim Butcher. It's a fantasy/hard-boiled detective fiction mix, but I feel the best way to describe it is with a picture:(click to show/hide)
Granted, while he doesn't actually ride around downtown Chicago on a zombified Tyrannosaurus Rex all the time, it does measure adequately what one can expect in terms of awesomeness levels.
I might be stating the obvious, but: The Hichhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams!
Amazingly funny book. Also plenty of extra stuff around that book, like bbc radio drama's. A must read. I bet many of you already read it. :)
And ofcourse Terry Pratchett's Diskworld series. Sadly, i'm almost done reading those. Especially the later ones are very witty, a breeze to read and ful of hilarious moments, satire and good storytelling. Nice and light reading.
When younger, aside from the mandatory Lord of the Rings and various other books, i remember enjoying The Wheel of Time by 'Robert Jordan'. But looking back, those books did get slightly boring after part 10. And i also remember reading stuff by Eddings i enjoyed. But ignore that. Read the Hichhiker's Guide if you haven't! It's a classic.
A series I did enjoy immensely and hasn't been mentioned yet is The Dresden Files (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Files) by Jim Butcher. It's a fantasy/hard-boiled detective fiction mix, but I feel the best way to describe it is with a picture:
Reading Jack London - The Scarlet feber and other novels atm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Plague
I might be stating the obvious, but: The Hichhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams!
Amazingly funny book. Also plenty of extra stuff around that book, like bbc radio drama's. A must read. I bet many of you already read it. :)
And ofcourse Terry Pratchett's Diskworld series. Sadly, i'm almost done reading those. Especially the later ones are very witty, a breeze to read and ful of hilarious moments, satire and good storytelling. Nice and light reading.
When younger, aside from the mandatory Lord of the Rings and various other books, i remember enjoying The Wheel of Time by 'Robert Jordan'. But looking back, those books did get slightly boring after part 10. And i also remember reading stuff by Eddings i enjoyed. But ignore that. Read the Hichhiker's Guide if you haven't! It's a classic.
Just finished the fourth Song of Ice and Fire book. All in all, he seems to be writing like an excellent GM should run a gritty role-playing game...draw out the hate with multiple intrigue plots thrown in and build up an extreme distaste for multiple characters that could all be the antagonist, depending on how your favourite characters go.
After reading quite a few books (K.J Parker, I'm looking at you) that didn't have any characters that you could really hate, this was wonderful.
I can only hope this doesn't result in a full party wipe.
It's an excellent series- everything I wanted and more.
Ever since I started reading Joe Abercrombie I can't read anything else :(Abercrombie? Mh, I think i've heard of that name before...
Just finished the fourth Song of Ice and Fire book. All in all, he seems to be writing like an excellent GM should run a gritty role-playing game...draw out the hate with multiple intrigue plots thrown in and build up an extreme distaste for multiple characters that could all be the antagonist, depending on how your favourite characters go.Yes, Martin is truly an excellent writer. I can't wait for July to come so we get his next book :)
After reading quite a few books (K.J Parker, I'm looking at you) that didn't have any characters that you could really hate, this was wonderful.
I can only hope this doesn't result in a full party wipe.
It's an excellent series- everything I wanted and more.
Abercrombie? Mh, I think i've heard of that name before...(click to show/hide)
It seems this last book was pretty much all about futility, and the human struggle. No one accomplished anything at all that was worthwhile.Right, though IMO the futility of Abercrombie is somehow very cheerful and full of life. and yeah, its one aspect that was present in the other books as well, but it became very central in this book. For memorable characters GRRM is the better choice.
Just started reading Richard Morgan's "Altered Carbon" a sci-fi/cyberpunk noir and a good one so far at that.
I'm anxious to read it, which is what I'm gonna do now. :)
If you like Harold Lamb check out Robert E. Howard as well, especially his Conan stories, they were fantastic.
Atm, reading Pandora's Star by Peter F. Hamilton. It's big. And pretty good so far.
Pandora Star was one of his best, and Judas Unchained has an awesome ending. So you will like that arc, but most of Hamiltons stories have terrible endings. I LOVED the Neutronium Alchemist series until the last 100 pages or so..... meh. He is a great author though.I loved his Greg Mandel books(Mindstar Rising being the first). Which is why I continued on with him.
William Gibson, Distrust that Particular Flavor.Oh man, oh man new Gibson. Is it enjoyable? I haven't read it.
This thread deserves a bump.
I'm having a hard time deciding if I should read the Engineer Trilogy or Song of Ice and Fire next :(
Personally, I think that unless someone lights a fire under Martins ass the series will have to end before he finishes his books.
LA Noire inspired me to read some hard-boiledIf you like sci-fi, I highly recommend reading Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan. It's a hard-boiled cyberpunk noir. It's one of my favourite books. Total badass.
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At half of 4th book now. Epic.
I'm currently reading Conqueror (About Genghis Khan and his dynasty) series by Conn Iggulden, I'm at the fifth and final book Conqueror. I truly recommend this series, it's really, really good!
Full list of Conqueror series:
Wolf of the Plains, 2007
Lords of the Bow, 2008
Bones of the Hills, 2008
Empire of Silver, 2010
Conqueror, 2011
At half of 4th book now. Epic.
Nice. I'm nearing the end of the first part of book 5. Preferring 5 over 4 as it has the new, slightly random, character chapters which became a bit annoying in 4 but they are much better in 5. That and the story line is just better. Though still can't get over Ygritte and Jon Snow and that was book 3!
Great series. Also recommend the Emperor series by him which is based on Julius Caesar. They go under my most read books. The detail he goes into is fantastic.
What do you think about the whole 4 dedicated to half the characters and 5 to the rest? Not sure I like the division in stories.
Also, I just finished the new book by Ken Follet, The Winter of the World, and I quite like it, I recommend the Century Trilogy (Fall of Giants and WotW released, third one to come in a couple of years). The first one is around WWI, the second one about WWII and the years around it (rise of fascism, evolution of Communism, Spanish Civil War, etc and consequences after it), and the third one will be around the Cold War.
What I like about these books (and in general Ken Follet) is how he follows families from different places, ways of thinking, social classes, and makes them interact in pretty plausible ways.
I dislike it, that's why I'm stuck, since I Can't read bout my favorite chars :( guess I'll go through it soon
I've read the first, Fall of Giants. It was ok, he used perhaps a few to many random coincidences that wouldn't be particularly feasible in order to tie the story together more. For me it's his Cathedral based series that I really enjoyed. Pillars of the Earth and World Without End (I think that's it). Again he's one of those authors that meticulously researches things, especially for those books.I know why you mean with the too many coincidences, and I think it is just a license that he uses for completion, which I feel acceptable. I am not really bothered by them, as he tries to justify them as much as he can. Of course it gets a bit suspicious, but after all it is not real life...
Ken Follet, The Winter of the World.
Warhammer 40k: Horus Heresy. 15 books of pure sci-fi goodness. Surprisingly great :)Think i can get them in e book format somewhere? Spend atleast a few hundred bucks on miniatures way back, love that shit.
Anyone got any recommendations for a good book I could read while I'm on vacation and away from technology?
Anyone got any recommendations for a good book I could read while I'm on vacation and away from technology?
Anyone got any recommendations for a good book I could read while I'm on vacation and away from technology?
I am in the middle of Hyperion. Very good book imho if you like sf with some religion element.
Anyone got any recommendations for a good book I could read while I'm on vacation and away from technology?Ape and essence, one of the best I've ever read, Galapagos is also pretty neat. If you got a decent amount of time on your hands consider Crime and Punishment.
Anyone got any recommendations for a good book I could read while I'm on vacation and away from technology?
S.M Stirling: Emberverse Series. Starts with Dies the Fire (http://www.amazon.com/Dies-Fire-A-Novel-Change/dp/0451460413/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371774967&sr=8-1&keywords=dies+the+fire), about, well no technology. Fitting, I'd say. :wink:
That's an enjoyable series.
Except, you know, Astrid Larsson. Man, does that character stir feelings within me that no other fictional character does. I can't stand her. At all.
Though, in general, I'm not a fan of a lot of his characters. They're well-rounded, developed characters- I just don't like them. I think it says something about his writing that he can create characters that evoke such strong emotions, though.
Also have you read the: Some time Later with Rudi as the star rather than the Protectors era?
I'm currently reading a Kalam message shitting on my thread:
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Still trying to finish a Dance with Dragons, 600 pages in right now
I see not much has changed
Never read that many pages in all of my life (probably all the books I've ever read combined, and I've read a lot of books).
should I start to read something again???? But what???????
You should read the black book, if you can find it. It's also called the unburnt book by some (they claim it's called the black book because the original was thrown in the fire and saved before it really started to burn, but the cover was already charred). The copy I've read was from the library in Leipzig, but the friend who lent it to me told me every big library in the world should have one, they just don't want to admit it to everyone.
You should read the black book, if you can find it. It's also called the unburnt book by some (they claim it's called the black book because the original was thrown in the fire and saved before it really started to burn, but the cover was already charred). The copy I've read was from the library in Leipzig, but the friend who lent it to me told me every big library in the world should have one, they just don't want to admit it to everyone.
havent read many books in my life but i did recently get around to (finally) read and also finish "a brief history of nearly everything" by bill bryson who is simply epic,
Own it, good reading. :wink:
personally think perhaps the best reading ever tho i felt nanosize when done... we are just a tiny but important piece in a scheme of astronomical proportions :D
I never quite understood why people say this. Of course humanity's place in the universe is insignificant enough that we might as well not exist... but why should that matter? Specifically, why should that matter to us? "Scheme of astronomical proportions"? What scheme? Whose scheme? If you're not religious then there's no reason to consider that "scheme" important in any way, and if you are religious, then you probably subscribe to the notion that the rest of the universe is pretty much irrelevant and God only really cares about us anyway. The way I see it, the movements of all those galaxies and clusters don't matter at all insofar as they don't appreciably affect human life.
darwin bullshit
You know, that philosophy makes you sound like an "if it feels good" type of person. Follow that thread and as long as it doesn't affect you, why does it matter? If you could get away with anything in the world without consequence to you, go for it, because why does it matter otherwise?
lol wut?
ive recently started WH40k hobby and have finished reading Conquest for Armageddon and Crusade for Armageddon, now reading Ultramarines omnibus. good reads, i'm into Sci-Fi as of lately. :)
u heard me :)
Because morality has nothing to do with astronomy. It's a human invention and only exists with reference to human life and experience.
Finished the Wheel of Time, pretty interesting but a bit overextended at the end. Enjoyed it a lot.
Now, getting on with a collection by Pérez-Reverte that I bought, including the Adventures of Captain Alatriste (rereading them), The Siege, and The Fencing Master. A very interesting look at the end of the Spanish Empire, during the 17th century, ending with the War of Spanish Succession.
Love the wheel of time :D the ending could have been a bit better but i loved it over all :P
bought the Hunger games trilogy the other day and halfway through the third book. not too bad considering i watched the film first and instantly thought Battle Royale O.o
No, it was completely wrong. But it seems you're having some difficulty understanding me, so I'll try to be more clear, if only to give you a reason to be a bit less obnoxiously smug.
I was pointing out that it was absurd for you to try to draw conclusions like that from what I wrote because there's absolutely no connection between me considering the rest of the universe essentially unimportant as far as humanity is concerned, and my moral character. If anything, it's evidence for the opposite, because unlike all those faraway stars and nebulae, morality is something that very much does affect our lives. The fact that it's man-made doesn't make it any less important, rather the role it plays in our society makes it essential.
Maybe you should read up on secular humanism a bit.
It's a human invention and only exists with reference to human life and experience.
If its a human invention in your mind, it can also be discarded as such. Whereas as a concept inherent to the universe it can not. Even a dog understands the concept of fairness and empathy and shame from actions they know are wrong. It isn't a human invention. While you may not have any desire to consider morality as unimportant to you as a personal choice, the framework in which you consider it to exist still allows that choice to be made, whereas I cannot, because in the framework I consider it to exist, it can never be discarded as "an invention of humans". The difference is that I can choose to do something immoral, and it would be immoral, and you could do something against the concept of morality and not consider yourself immoral at all by choosing to ignore it as a "human invention".
If its a human invention in your mind, it can also be discarded as such. Whereas as a concept inherent to the universe it can not. Even a dog understands the concept of fairness and empathy and shame from actions they know are wrong. It isn't a human invention. While you may not have any desire to consider morality as unimportant to you as a personal choice, the framework in which you consider it to exist still allows that choice to be made, whereas I cannot, because in the framework I consider it to exist, it can never be discarded as "an invention of humans". The difference is that I can choose to do something immoral, and it would be immoral, and you could do something against the concept of morality and not consider yourself immoral at all by choosing to ignore it as a "human invention".
I believe it's closer to a species survival thing, as we're one of the most social races. A society only works if it's members work with each other.
This discussion has enough meat in it to become another topic.
I believe it's closer to a species survival thing, as we're one of the most social races. A society only works if it's members work with each other. This discussion has enough meat in it to become another topic.
I don't really want to get into the whole objective vs subjective argument at length here, I've gotten kind of tired of it and anyway it's a topic that's been discussed to death already by better minds than the pair of us. Still, I'll ask you one thing: if you don't believe moral codes come from humanity itself, why have they varied so wildly over the ages and across cultures?
I think this is true of the core impulse to develop morality that people tend to possess, but to a huge degree the actual moral codes people follow are still social constructs, an even vary from person to person.
Are you saying you're a scientologist?
@ Rumblood.
Religions usually dont require you to read. You just have to join the religious comunity and attend the rituals and partake in the offerings (of money) normally. Only if you want to ascend in your religious group you are required to read (or memorize) some of your religions textes to counsel and teach and educate your fellow cult members or to recruit some new followers.
On the other hand if you want to study a religion you are required to read something about it - or go undercover into the comunity. But then you dont have to believe, you have to argument.
There is a difference.
I never quite understood why people say this. Of course humanity's place in the universe is insignificant enough that we might as well not exist... but why should that matter? Specifically, why should that matter to us? "Scheme of astronomical proportions"? What scheme? Whose scheme? If you're not religious then there's no reason to consider that "scheme" important in any way, and if you are religious, then you probably subscribe to the notion that the rest of the universe is pretty much irrelevant and God only really cares about us anyway. The way I see it, the movements of all those galaxies and clusters don't matter at all insofar as they don't appreciably affect human life.
I've never met a scientologist either, that's why I was curious to know if you were one. If you're not, which is kind of a letdown, I do wonder why you'd recommend Dianetics to anybody. Why do you consider it more persuasive or valuable than the rest of scientologist literature? And why are you defensive of their weirdo new-age sci-fi religion in general?
I find it ludicrous that people think that they have grounds to criticize any religion without having read their literature to understand their tenets.
You should read the first chapter as it pertains to the discussion.
Hey i have been trying to get into this lately, do you know with what should i start? For now i just read the lexicanum a lot and i know quite a bit of the lore
Hey i have been trying to get into this lately, do you know with what should i start? For now i just read the lexicanum a lot and i know quite a bit of the lore
Reading the eye of the world
Feel like maybe GRRM has ruined typical fantasy for me, maybe I'm just getting too old tho.
Reading the eye of the world
Feel like maybe GRRM has ruined typical fantasy for me, maybe I'm just getting too old tho.
My wife tells me to "grow up" if she sees me reading. How ridiculous is that...I can see where she's coming from by telling me to grow up about playing video games (even though I disagree, I don't think there's an age limit for doing what makes you happy).
I have no words...
My wife tells me to "grow up" if she sees me reading. How ridiculous is that...I can see where she's coming from by telling me to grow up about playing video games (even though I disagree, I don't think there's an age limit for doing what makes you happy).
My wife tells me to "grow up" if she sees me reading.
I've started rereading the greatest run on Batman ever starting with The Black Glove by Grant Morrison :oops:
It was a great run. I'm always surprised when DC allows something like that. Hoping Snyder gets something similar.
I re-read this book every year roughly. Doesn't take long but it's quite satisfying. Anyone recommend any other Vonnegut books like it? It's nearly Christmas time and the family is asking for gift ideas.
im not reading anything currently, but i got 2 books lined up ready for reading...
(please dont laugh at me) a Halo book, Glasslands by Karen Traviss, Its just a tradition for me whenever a new book is released to read it, no matter how bad, I have every book in the series sitting on my shelf. I just like Halo, i guess
The second is The Black Company by Glen Cook, its the first book in a Fantasy series about a mercenary company, supposed to be very Dark and Mature, i was trying to find some good Gritty fantasy novels and heard this was a good read
Rising Sun - Michael Crichton (http://www.amazon.com/Rising-Sun-Michael-Crichton/dp/0099233010)
I had to read it for a class a few years ago and it was pretty enjoyable. The fact that the novel has an agenda (other than entertaining the reader) is also very interesting.
There are few great novels that don't have an agenda, I think. That's what great writing has, right? Beyond the syntax, diction, character, and plotting, it's usually an observation or persuasion concerning the world from someone else's point of view.
Whoever recommended The Way of Kings (http://www.amazon.com/Way-Kings-Stormlight-Archive/dp/0765365278/ref=la_B001IGFHW6_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384027686&sr=1-5) by Brandon Sanderson to me, thank you.
That was an amazing conclusion.
Ultimate hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
Btw, is there any medieval themed books you guys could recommend?
Alamut?Asssassins Creed, eh? I'll give a try, thanks.
Ultimate hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
Btw, is there any medieval themed books you guys could recommend?
Atm im empty of books again, suggest me something :D
(I read almost everything that I can get hands on, nearly doesn't matter what genre or author :) )
I'm particularly searching for a good book in WWI setting that's not the typical frontline hero action kind of book.
Here's a mystery set in and after World War I. Maisie Dobbs (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/462033.Maisie_Dobbs) by Jacqueline Winspear.
Many. Here are the first few that come to mind.
Gentlemen of the Road (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/587638.Gentlemen_of_the_Road?from_search=true) by Michael Chabon. A buddy adventure set in medieval eastern Europe.
The White Company (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93063.The_White_Company?from_search=true) by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. A classic romanticizing the English longbowman and a free company.
The Archer's Tale (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68531.The_Archer_s_Tale?from_search=true) by Bernard Cornwell. Modern take on the same.
The SI love youtone (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/151723.The_SI love youtone?from_search=true) by Jack Whyte. Dark Ages Arthurian cycle.
The Whale Road (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/395168.The_Whale_Road?from_search=true) by Robert Low. A story that follows a group of vikings, in the style of Glen Cook.
The Folly of the World (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13528370-the-folly-of-the-world?from_search=true) A dark tale set in Holland during St. Elizabeth's flood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elizabeth%27s_flood_%281421%29).
The Mongoliad: Book One (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12853147-the-mongoliad?from_search=true) Written by a group of writers interacting with fans. It's fairly unique in that, and is designed to give medieval martial arts an epic to feature in.
If there's something more specific you're looking for, I'm sure we can narrow the search.
Hey i have been trying to get into this lately, do you know with what should i start? For now i just read the lexicanum a lot and i know quite a bit of the loreI failed to read this thread, but randomly saw this post.
Hello again, looking for books because I'm going on a 3 week vacation. Quoted this post because I'm looking for similar stuff, sadly most of the books mentioned above are not to be found in our library here :(
Looking for more or less historical fiction, for example like the Iggulden books of Julius Caesar (Emperor series) / Ghenghis (Conqueror series), which was some fiction and some facts, which I found pretty cool. Anything from ancient romans to late medieval is great, but everything else is also acceptable (like WW2).
If it's a series even better because I'll have a lot of free time.
Thanks
Reading The Brothers Karamazov.
Recently finished "The Road"by Cormac McCarthy. I thought it was a pretty good book (I love the post-apocalypse settings for books/games/movies), but I didn't think it was great by any stretch. Not as good as all the "hype" I've heard for it. The "feel" of how desperate and bleak the world is, is passed on to the reader very well.
I've read through "Can You Survive the Zombie Apocalypse?" by Max Brallier about a half dozen times or so now. It's pretty damn good. It's a choose your own adventure type of book. I don't necessarily like how sometimes you choose to do something and it includes having the character choose to do 10 other things you had no control over (or wouldn't have foreseen happening based on the choice you were making before). But it's entertaining none the less.
I finished the "De-Textbook" by writers at Cracked.com and I thought it was an awesome book (mainly for "muricans" since a lot of is has to do with our history and what we were taught that was flat out lies or propaganda, and also things that were left out of our history). But it has a lot of good information about people in general. The only (very minor) criticism I had about the book was one section about the myth of curing a hangover by popping aspirin before you start drinking. I'd never heard that before. I have heard (and believe) that it helps to pop some ibuprofen before you pass out at night (after a long night of drinking) along with a large glass of water. I know the water and helping fight dehydration is the main thing, but I would have liked to know if taking some ibuprofen before bed as well helped at all.
Aspirin is a blood thinner. I'm no biochemist, but if I had to guess, I'd say it may make you feel better (in the same way alcohol makes you feel warmer while cooling you down) by improving circulation. Any NSAID, such as ibuprofen, shouldn't be taken with alcohol. There's almost no chance that it will be lethal, but it might exacerbate things like liver damage or pancreatitis.
Recently I've "discovered" audiobooks, but not read by 1 lector, but with each role displayed by different actor, up to 100 actors. Sadly there's only a few such audiobooks in poland, game of throne among others.
I'm reading Cormac's "The Road". Pretty good. The minimalist leanings are nice, particularly when he gets poetic with his descriptions of things. Very apt metaphors, and the language gets nice and rhythmic at times. Sexy.
Some of his "experimental" tendencies are not sexy. No quotation marks and almost no dialogue attribution are occasionally cause for confusion, and the dialogue's terseness word-wise contradicts its relative length line-wise. I almost get the impression of characters woofing or barking at each other, back and forth.
Woof.
Bark, bark.
Woof?
Meow.
Also, some of his sentences are just straight up run-on's. It comes off as excessively artistic. Special snowflake writing. "I don't need your stupid rules! Fuck English!"
But I'm just a gumpy asshole who likes sticking to the rules unless there's a damn good reason for breaking them :D I highly suggest the book, though, if only for its poetic leanings.
Bookstore in my City had a great sale this month. Bought the whole Elric of Melibone saga By Moorcock. Will update if its good
i usually read books to entertain myself, just to relax nothing more. need cool horror stories possibly, if not books are fine too, just to spend free time. NIED SUJJESTIONS
I've just preordered The entire Lovecraft's Collection from 1897 to 1936 :shock:hes awesome .. almost a bit to much for me XD !! but just almost i love the way he writes :shock:..
Bookstore in my City had a great sale this month. Bought the whole Elric of Melibone saga By Moorcock. Will update if its good
Dostoevsky's Crime & Punishment, The Gambler
Kafka's Trial
Bulgakov's Master and Margaritha
Márquez's Hundred years of solitude
Kudera's Unbearable Lightness of Being, Immortality
Irwine Welsh's Trainspotting
Huxley's Brave New World
Badbury's Fahrenheit 451
Absolutely great series recommended to everyone.
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Here is a brief introduction to who the protagonist is (as quoted from Wikipedia), which is pretty much enough to give you a good idea and encourage you to go and read these:(click to show/hide)
Also, Jonathan L. Howard, the author, is the writer behind the storyline of the Broken Sword series. I never played a Broken Sword game but those of you who have might be interested in checking out these published works of his.
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Vlad Taltos series, on the other hand, is great.
Finished Ender's Game just now. Unsure what the hype is about. Seemed awfully mediocre literature in every way. :/
Charles Bukowski, Factotum and Post Office finished already, just started Women. Looks like his all books were tribute to drinking and fucking. And giude how to get kicked from a job. Good reading nonetheless.chinaski is king
Can anyone teach me how to read? Would pay with straw hats.
rereading Pratchett right now (I mean everything), love that old bastard and his stupid jokes
Picked up Dune. Lets see if I have time to finish it.
Finished Zones of Thought trilogy (http://www.goodreads.com/series/52585-zones-of-thought) by Vernor Vinge - great books, especially the first one.
Now doing Hyperion (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77566.Hyperion?from_search=true).
Finished Zones of Thought trilogy (http://www.goodreads.com/series/52585-zones-of-thought) by Vernor Vinge - great books, especially the first one.
Now doing Hyperion (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77566.Hyperion?from_search=true).
Currently reading White Fang by Jack London, its brilliant.
That first book from Vinges trilogy is truly great. Sense of wonder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sense_of_wonder) is one of reasons I like sci-fi and this book made me feel it.
I read many books from Simmons, but not single one really got me.(rating them as just very good) From Hyperion I liked most part one of first book. (Something with priest)
One of my favourites childhood books.
Currently reading Shogun from James Clavell. My third book from him, still very good read, but I like Tai-pan and King Rat better.
Witch you post books that seems really cool about anthropology, shaman, vodoo and stuff like that, gonna read them soon! :D
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so apparently, Metro 2034 was translated to English, some time November of last year. yet no one told me
so i bought the book a week ago...just gotten find a good time to read it
Conn Iggulden, Genghis Khan series. Good so far.
Just finished the 4 first books of "A song of fire and Ice", and I`m totally amazed, even though the 4th books was a bit boring compared to the 3 prequels!90 years* :)
Today I started reading the "Hedge Knight" which is a book that takes places 200 years~ before the events of a song of fire and ice!
Good reads!
I can't figure out why people like Ender's Game. :/
I read it, the writing felt overly simplistic and the story itself very cliche, didn't even bother with the rest of the books in the series.
Enjoy and also read the Julius Caesar series from him.I've read the first Genghis Khan book. It was excellent. If you just glance at a random page it might look dry, but could hardly put it down. Does the quality remain the same? 2100~ pages of the same would be ecstatic.
I've read the first Genghis Khan book. It was excellent. If you just glance at a random page it might look dry, but could hardly put it down. Does the quality remain the same? 2100~ pages of the same would be ecstatic.
Just finished the 4 first books of "A song of fire and Ice", and I`m totally amazed, even though the 4th books was a bit boring compared to the 3 prequels!
Today I started reading the "Hedge Knight" which is a book that takes places 200 years~ before the events of a song of fire and ice!
Good reads!
Omfg, it took you this long. Dunk and Egg series is also great, although that series lack epicness, it is warm and heartfelt and beautiful and quite different than Song of Ice and Fire.
It took me 1 month to finish all 4, I read them everywhere, in my bed, at my work, at the shitter, literally EVERYWHERe :mrgreen:
So you were reading those 4 books everywhere and it still took you a whole month to finish reading them? :? It's not like you've read a dozen books, just... 4 :? But okay I guess! :wink:
Dunk and Egg series is actually Hedge Knight and two sequels. :mrgreen:
gonna give a go to the book you suggest!
I can't figure out why people like Ender's Game. :/
I read it, the writing felt overly simplistic and the story itself very cliche
That's not too old. Aliens, hive minds, etc - none of those are ideas that originated there. And it's not like the book is about hive minds anyway.
Yeah. Card is no Heinlein. I recently wondered if my dislike of Card was due to his personal life, but then I remembered that I read Ender's Game before I knew anything about him. Tried to re-read it and you know what? Not that great. He's not bad, but there's no reason for him to occupy the place in science fiction/YA that he currently enjoys.
It took me 1 month to finish all 4, I read them everywhere, in my bed, at my work, at the shitter, literally EVERYWHERe :mrgreen:
gonna give a go to the book you suggest!
Working my way through these at the moment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wheel_of_Time
Thoroughly enjoying it.
The main character is a Homo sapiens girlShe's Cro-Magnon. Don't you know ANYTHING
She's Cro-Magnon. Don't you know ANYTHING
Witch do you like to read books with pretty pictures?
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I have a huge nerd boner for anthropology and early human history. I read lots of nonfiction books on the subject (PM me if you are looking for some titles to grab your interest on the subject) and finally forced myself to read the Clan of the the Cave Bear series by Jean M Auel. I wish I had started reading the series sooner. I rarely touch fiction and in general will drop a novel for well-written history stuff in a heartbeat.
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Clan of the Cave Bear is fiction, but it reminds me more of a National Geographic documentary on human ancestry than anything else. The main character is a Homo sapiens girl who loses her family and is adopted by a Neanderthal clan. This was published in 1980, but holds up very well as "fantasy anthropology" shit. Auel did a LOT of research on the subject, and large portions of the text are dedicated to social rules/interactions of Neanderthals and prehistoric/hunter-gatherer herbal medicine. Heavy prose about prehistoric flora/fauna should fill out your anthropology nerd needs.
I've had this series and Dune on my "to read" list for years. Maybe I'll read the core novels of Dune next time I have a craving for fiction...
Thanks, I`m gonna "buy it" :mrgreen:
I have to admit that I avoided Stephen King, because when I was younger, I had read the "It" and I was bored to death, funny how things change when you grow up!
First few books ok, then turns into neolithic soft porn fest. Keep reading lol.
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep by Philip K. DickThinking about reading this next. Read some excellent excerpts once and I consider Blade Runner one of the best sci-fi movies.
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Finished Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep the other day. It was excellent, best sci-fi I've read since Asimov and Clarke short stories (looking forward to Minority Report and A Scanner Darkly). Just begun the Hyperion Cantos, have heard a lot of good about them.
No one reads anything, but if they do read, they do not really understand what they’ve read, and if they do eventually understand something, they forget about it immediately.
True dat :(
Ships that pass in the night, and speak each other in passing,
Only a signal shown and a distant voice in the darkness;
So on the ocean of life we pass and speak one another,
Only a look and a voice, then darkness again and a silence.
Qui dicebas in corde tuo: in caelum conscendam, super astra Dei exaltabo solium meum, sedebo in monte testamenti, in lateribus Aquilonis.
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Looking for graphic novels/comic book series. Stuff I've read recently, past year or so:
Star Wars: Legacy
The Authority
The Invisibles
Sandman (Neil Gaiman)
Orbiter
Descender
Transmetropolitan
Crossed
Preacher
The Multiversity
New 52 Future's End
Saga
Black River
Two Brothers (and some other stuff by the duo that writes it)
And honestly a ton of other stuff I'm not mentioning or have forgotten, sorry. Looking for one-offs or series, old or new, to check out. I hope you've got some recommendations Kalam.
I just finished reading Star Wars Battlefront: Twilight Company. It was quick read so a good beach book or one to take on vacation. They create new characters and bring them in contact with background characters from the original trilogy. I've never played Star Wars Battlefront but I'm guessing a lot of the weapons they mention are in the game so that's the tie-in. 8/10
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Also recently finished The Best Digital Marketing Campaigns in the World II. It spotlights a bunch of creative advertising campaigns and lays out how they were carried out and talks about the agencies behind them. It took me a long time to make it through this one because I kept on stopping to look up the agencies mentioned in the book and seeing what they were currently up to. 8/10
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Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie
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Covers the pharmaceutical mechanisms of creating a "zombie" as well as in-depth reasearch on the folklore, social structure, and history of Haiti. It's informative but not dry and boring. If you like pop culture zombies check this out, Haitian zombies are point of origin for our stories of the undead over the last 100+ years.
Holy crap Witchcraft, how do you even find these books.
BOOKS!
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath ~ By H. P. Lovecraft (http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/dq.aspx)
I just finished reading the Hero of Ages by Brandon Sanderson, now I'm just reading Flash Comics and preparing myself to try to slog through the beginning of Clash of Kings again. Last time I tried I got through 4 chapters and quit because I thought it was too boring. Any read any recent good fantasy books lately?
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginI hate it when the author's name is written in letters bigger than the title. "Nerdy" hipster fashion made it so that it's no longer important what you're reading, but rather, who you're reading.
Metro 2035No, it clearly says METPO. Must be some cheap Russian knock off.
I hate it when the author's name is written in letters bigger than the title. "Nerdy" hipster fashion made it so that it's no longer important what you're reading, but rather, who you're reading.
Earlier I had attempted to re-read Crime and Punishment and was surprised at how much more of an impact the murder had on me, and how differently I viewed the protagonist, as opposed to when I originally read it a decade ago.
Did you read it for an assignment originally? There's plenty of books I had to read in school that I didn't care for, but found myself enjoying a lot more afterwards. Reading for your own pleasure vs with a work-related objective can be different.
The question is: who cares? I only care about the inside, fuck covers and publishing tricks.
Could something as simple and seemingly natural as falling into step have marked us for evolutionary success? In Keeping Together in Time one of the most widely read and respected historians in America pursues the possibility that coordinated rhythmic movement—and the shared feelings it evokes—has been a powerful force in holding human groups together. As he has done for historical phenomena as diverse as warfare, plague, and the pursuit of power, William H. McNeill brings a dazzling breadth and depth of knowledge to his study of dance and drill in human history. From the records of distant and ancient peoples to the latest findings of the life sciences, he discovers evidence that rhythmic movement has played a profound role in creating and sustaining human communities. The behavior of chimpanzees, festival village dances, the close-order drill of early modern Europe, the ecstatic dance-trances of shamans and dervishes, the goose-stepping chocolate chip cookie formations, the morning exercises of factory workers in Japan—all these and many more figure in the bold picture McNeill draws. A sense of community is the key, and shared movement, whether dance or military drill, is its mainspring. McNeill focuses on the visceral and emotional sensations such movement arouses, particularly the euphoric fellow-feeling he calls “muscular bonding.” These sensations, he suggests, endow groups with a capacity for cooperation, which in turn improves their chance of survival.http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674502307
A tour de force of imagination and scholarship, Keeping Together in Time reveals the muscular, rhythmic dimension of human solidarity. Its lessons will serve us well as we contemplate the future of the human community and of our various local communities.
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Pretty light enjoyable reading
Dude I love Conn Iggulden, he wrote a bunch of great stories about Ghengis Khan that I'd highly recommend for some light badass reading. Plus it's loosely based on historical facts about Ghengis so it's a win-win.
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Dude I love Conn Iggulden, he wrote a bunch of great stories about Ghengis Khan that I'd highly recommend for some light badass reading. Plus it's loosely based on historical facts about Ghengis so it's a win-win.
plowing through Scott Orson Card's "holy shit he wrote something besides ender's game?" stuff right nowdoes it have pictures
the Maker series is fucking fantastic, just enough alt-history to not make it over the top. low-fantasy set in 1800 Indiana.
also Treason was fucking good (main character's royal house members regenerate battle wounds rapidly giving them great advantage....and then homeboy wakes up with a big set of literal tits, adventure ensues)
Read (partly) Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. Gotta say, I was very disappointed. Characters are awfully shallow cliches (mostly they're just names that exist to surround the equally personality-less main characters), rampant misogyny (don't think 1961 being the year of its writing is enough of an excuse), somewhat poor plot... and then suddenly, out of the blue, there is tons of super bizarre and senseless sex going on, described in a rather awful manner. Not recommended, feels like I wasted my time on this turd.
Read (partly) Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. Gotta say, I was very disappointed. Characters are awfully shallow cliches (mostly they're just names that exist to surround the equally personality-less main characters), rampant misogyny (don't think 1961 being the year of its writing is enough of an excuse), somewhat poor plot... and then suddenly, out of the blue, there is tons of super bizarre and senseless sex going on, described in a rather awful manner. Not recommended, feels like I wasted my time on this turd.
i doubt there are any memes in that book
Recently (almost) read through Rama series by Arthur C. Clarke. Well... Let's just say I agree wholeheartedly with this review. (https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/150933281?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1)
Arthur is great at describing hard sci-fi things in great detail and accuracy, but his stories just don't have much of a plot to them or it's very weak. Characters? They could all just be identical robots for the personality they have. So, once you get past the descriptions of whatever alien artifact he has thought of for some series of his, reading any further is just a complete waste of time. Rama series is thus good for the first book.
i read Rendevouz and Rama II and thought they were pretty poor, to be honest. i'm fucking down with some Clarke but for all the hype even normies have given this series, i couldn't really get into it.
Guns of the South by Turtledove, i avoided for years because i thought it would be a similar cringy white-power wankfest like The Turner Diaries but goddamn it was so fucking good
Author is Swedish and story is set in Scandinavia, but yes :lol:
And currently im listening to Red Rising which others describe as a more adult hunger games. Really quite brutal and depressing, hurts my soul that i didnt know i had. Its good though, enjoying it thoroughly.
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