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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Peppovitch on November 28, 2011, 03:17:28 am

Title: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Peppovitch on November 28, 2011, 03:17:28 am
Surely it was just an honest mistake to change your night time and attack your own village. Or did you just know that it was a perfect time for a Fallen scrimmage?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: SeQuel on November 28, 2011, 03:25:17 am
Wut
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 03:27:08 am
something to do with this http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19854.0.html ? just as a guess.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 28, 2011, 03:30:46 am
:P Devestater "It aint rocket science" sums it all up don't it....
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 28, 2011, 03:31:58 am
something to do with this http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19854.0.html ? just as a guess.
Non biest 3rd party view.... Little fishy timings to good....
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 03:34:05 am
im not quite at tears level, but i do check the forums a rather lot.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 28, 2011, 03:36:43 am
We need badmins to kick every 1 out of Disturil asap cuz this is blatant strat delying tactics and badmins do NOT tolerate delaying of any sort on our servers.

*oh and Ban Loki
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 28, 2011, 03:50:17 am
im not quite at tears level, but i do check the forums a rather lot.
And im shure you guys are in the bug report section a lot looking for exploits to abuse a excusesolution to this exploit problem.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Valdian on November 28, 2011, 03:53:47 am
This is Low Real Low and it wasnt  fluk that it happened they knew about the army coming and wanted to Delay simple as that and those that have Decided to use the system like this should be Ashamed that they are wrecking the game by cheating.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 28, 2011, 03:59:30 am
That's Low. That's straight up abusing a glitch/making it impossible for someone to attack you.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 28, 2011, 04:07:14 am
I am not mad and did not expect anything less from Fallen or BRD (yes I am talking about last strat). But, I want to put all of that behind us and move on and play the game like it is supposed to be played. Because this is what the game is about. Battles! Not avoiding them! We are a worthy opponent. Treat us as such! We show you the same respect.
All I have to say is... 
1. I hope Fallen decides to play a fair game.
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI
and let us not forget
3. GOD WILLS IT!!!






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkzOu1JnP0M
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: arowaine on November 28, 2011, 05:01:49 am
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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 28, 2011, 05:10:40 am
/whispers I think he is amused.

 :)
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: SeQuel on November 28, 2011, 05:12:25 am
TROLOLOLOLLOL AND HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!
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I don't understand what's so funny?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Dehitay on November 28, 2011, 05:46:44 am
Actually, I'm just as disappointed with this as Hospitaller/Occitan. And now that this little pattern has started, it may just end up being a common occurance. This is why I wanted that stupid village transfer system fixed way the hell back when it was first obvious as hell what would happen. Now I see this happening when we send 3000 troops over to Dugan
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 28, 2011, 06:16:00 am
God, we're really sorry about that, next time make sure to tell us your plans the day before so we can avoid schedule conflicts like this one.  :shock:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Snoozer on November 28, 2011, 07:59:13 am
God, we're really sorry about that, next time make sure to tell us your plans the day before so we can avoid schedule conflicts like this one.  :shock:
^this is too fucking perfect.

ill be amazed if they get away with this nonsense this is low

you did not see us attack dusteril when the HRE invasion  happened now did you?

and if they do get away with it i am certain this will be a common strategy to get out of fights and drain the enemy of resources

 im certain arowaine is amused that they are still being cheap and pulling these moves but i sadly am not im rather jaded and not surprised what so ever.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 28, 2011, 08:15:28 am
Actually, I'm just as disappointed with this as Hospitaller/Occitan. And now that this little pattern has started, it may just end up being a common occurance. This is why I wanted that stupid village transfer system fixed way the hell back when it was first obvious as hell what would happen. Now I see this happening when we send 3000 troops over to Dugan

Sory m8 soliders don't accept food stamps or welfare checks after the new patch.... IDK how your gona afford that upkeep now... chadz ruinin the game...

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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mannhammer on November 28, 2011, 12:03:27 pm
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19928.0/topicseen.html

Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: joespose on November 28, 2011, 12:09:49 pm
Blame our NA players not EU  :lol:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mannhammer on November 28, 2011, 12:11:38 pm
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19928.0/topicseen.html

I'm a "paranoid", "overzealous", "fascist"  :rolleyes: so it was roundly ignored when I brought this up a month ago.

In all sincerity, good luck getting the devs to fix this.
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But on the Plus side at least they heeded to the poll I posted in that tread and nerfed archery again with the most recent patch. Instead of fixing game breaking gliches  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 28, 2011, 01:05:19 pm
Fallens you vile shits

how dare you

Loki is the plague of this mod
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gash on November 28, 2011, 04:11:20 pm
So you're saying ATS could have kept attacking Bhulaban with 1 troop for a couple of days straight in order to prevent Matey from taking it and it would be considered a game feature?


Get the fuck outta here.


Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: BaleOhay on November 28, 2011, 04:21:37 pm
I am not mad and did not expect anything less from Fallen or BRD (yes I am talking about last strat). But, I want to put all of that behind us and move on and play the game like it is supposed to be played. Because this is what the game is about. Battles! Not avoiding them! We are a worthy opponent. Treat us as such! We show you the same respect.
All I have to say is... 
1. I hope Fallen decides to play a fair game.
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez6wfJWVCeI
and let us not forget
3. GOD WILLS IT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkzOu1JnP0M

How did BRD get lumped in here. We would not have stopped an attack by attacking ourselves. Fighting is the only reason to play strat.. If I remember Matey's attack on the ATS village you guys were the ones playing games by changing your nighttime settings to force the fight to the AM hours. In fact you did it twice. Not as bad as locking yourselves down but also not that much different
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gash on November 28, 2011, 04:27:26 pm
How did BRD get lumped in here. We would not have stopped an attack by attacking ourselves. Fighting is the only reason to play strat.. If I remember Matey's attack on the ATS village you guys were the ones playing games by changing your nighttime settings to force the fight to the AM hours. In fact you did it twice. Not as bad as locking yourselves down but also not that much different

You're full of shit.

We didn't decide to make the hours terrible as part of some lame-ass strategy, The village belonged to Damatacus, who has a weird west-coast-working schedule.  He finishes work at 11pm Western - so that makes it terrible for east-coasters.  I could never make it to those battles because of it.  He then changed it to an hour earlier to try and accommodate more east-coast, but it still wasn't enough for some of us. That's why the battles were at 3 and 2 in the morning.

That's all that happened, quit thinking we actually cared enough to make things harder for you, had it been 3 hours earlier-  there would have been more ATS online.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: BaleOhay on November 28, 2011, 04:53:44 pm
well you got the lame-ass strategy right at least.

If it matters I agree that locking your own village down should not be allowed to happen.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: oprah_winfrey on November 28, 2011, 04:59:37 pm
As far as I have heard, changing your night time settings doesnt effect anything when attacking a fief, its just 24 hours after the battle, except for the bugged battle the next day on the fief you just took. Don't blame ATS, blame Matey.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 28, 2011, 05:04:04 pm
You're full of shit.
Not a nice way for someone who is labeled as "NA Admin"...i kind of loose my trust in admins if they speak like this!

ToTopic:
As Mannhammer said: this is know long time now...Bug? Feature? no idea but its there...just had to chance fief owneship somehow...
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Fallens you vile shits
how dare you
Loki is the plague of this mod

How dare Fallen? Its so ...EVIL!

ps: loki is a real badass!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Keshian on November 28, 2011, 05:23:02 pm
As far as I have heard, changing your night time settings doesnt effect anything when attacking a fief, its just 24 hours after the battle, except for the bugged battle the next day on the fief you just took. Don't blame ATS, blame Matey.

no, Matey atatcked and it got pushed to 2 am even though he attacked at 10:40 pm.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Damatacus_ATS on November 28, 2011, 06:15:18 pm
Even though we are getting off topic of fallen being the pussys that they are. Yes, the battle got pushed back a couple hours because of my night settings, which I set up due to my work schedule. I did not know they would affect the fief. After that first battle, there was some complaining so I changed them to more normal night time hours. That is all.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 28, 2011, 06:18:45 pm
Fallen attacked the village from HRE so they could get control of it.  I'm assuming they wanted to transfer ownership to another Fallen member, and the only way to do that is to attack their own village.

It's also possible they did this as a stalling tactic to get more people heading that direction to reinforce.  This is a known issue and the dev's have acknowledged it.  But like the issue where defenders lose all their gear they have equipped if they win a battle, it's a game breaking issue that completely fucks over strategus.  And like any game breaking issue, has been unresolved since it was reported to the devs.

Go Devs!! YeaH!!!!!

More dedicated developers could have literally taken the concept from this game and created a completely new game on a different game engine and marketed it to publishers and selling it for 15 bucks a pop by now.  C-RPG and Strategus have unlimited potential and a completely open market share if they were interested.  Hell maybe that's why c-rpg and strategus have been so neglected, maybe they are creating a game that will make them some money.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Peppovitch on November 28, 2011, 08:14:18 pm
something to do with this http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19854.0.html ? just as a guess.

Fallen attacked the village from HRE so they could get control of it.  I'm assuming they wanted to transfer ownership to another Fallen member, and the only way to do that is to attack their own village.

Except that they aren't transferring the village.  The owner is the one who attacked it.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Matey on November 28, 2011, 08:19:19 pm
fallen_frank owns the fief he is attacking? you sure? i know its not fallen taking it from HRE, but within faction the only person who can really coordinate and manage the garrison forces and gear is the specific player who runs the fief, if that player isnt very active for whatever reason then the only way to give the fief to another player is to get another member of your faction to attack the fief. with an enemy approaching it would be that much more vital to have an active person in control of the fief; so either they are putting an active person in charge to prepare the defenses, or they are just delaying by using the poor fief ownership system... which it is, only some of them know for sure.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: joespose on November 28, 2011, 08:25:57 pm
Frank doesn't own it. he isn't attacking his own village
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Darkkarma on November 28, 2011, 08:32:18 pm
Not a nice way for someone who is labeled as "NA Admin"...i kind of loose my trust in admins if they speak like this!

That'd better be a motherfucking son of a bitch shit cock of a joke, Mate. :mad:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 28, 2011, 08:46:13 pm
Frank is not the owner of Dusturil, it's some random guy named Glaurung. Loki did not trust me because of my french canadian-ness you see, I could very well be one of them Occitan spies! To prove my loyalty I agreed to transfer the fief to Frank...

And to think you guys would question the honor of the Fallens...
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 28, 2011, 08:52:29 pm
Frank is not the owner of Dusturil, it's some random guy named Glaurung. Loki did not trust me because of my french canadian-ness you see, I could very well be one of them Occitan spies! To prove my loyalty I agreed to transfer the fief to Frank...

And to think you guys would question the honor of the Fallens...

hahaha!

That'd better be a motherfucking son of a bitch shit cock of a joke, Mate. :mad:
You almost mad me cry :(!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 28, 2011, 09:33:17 pm
Seems shady as fuck to me, but you can't really blame them when it's the fault of the fief system in strategus.  Blame the devs for not addressing this sooner.

Peppo - There's been discussions on this in the strategus issues section of the forums...I'd suggest you re-posting something about this (and be descriptive) there as well.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Peppovitch on November 28, 2011, 09:59:45 pm
Seems shady as fuck to me, but you can't really blame them when it's the fault of the fief system in strategus.  Blame the devs for not addressing this sooner.

Peppo - There's been discussions on this in the strategus issues section of the forums...I'd suggest you re-posting something about this (and be descriptive) there as well.

It's true that this is the fault of the devs for not fixing this and allowing a form of fief transfer, but it is also the fault of Fallen for using a broken implement as an exploit. Their action shows how in can be abused. Hopefully this will be the needed wake up call to fix it and make the game better.

Everyone, including the devs should be aware of this problem by now, but I agree that a post in the strat issue section is probably the next step to get it fixed.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 28, 2011, 11:13:40 pm
Frank is not the owner of Dusturil, it's some random guy named Glaurung. Loki did not trust me because of my french canadian-ness you see, I could very well be one of them Occitan spies! To prove my loyalty I agreed to transfer the fief to Frank...

And to think you guys would question the honor of the Fallens...
Then prove it. Have Frank meet me in the NA 3 duel server at 6 est or anytime before the battle. I bet it shows Lord Fallen Frank owner of Dustril has entered. I am calling you out. If you actually believe them about not delaying... You cannot be that intelligent.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 28, 2011, 11:22:13 pm
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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Everkistus on November 28, 2011, 11:23:37 pm
Dear Occitan/Hospitaller,

As a loyal member of the Brigade I am truly sorry for this inconvenience. Next time you plan a surprise attack, please contact us beforehand so we can reschedule our fief transfer. Luckily the battle will be over soon so you can proceed with your offensive.

Best Regards,
Everkistus
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 28, 2011, 11:30:10 pm
was this last strat? anyway. If i am wrong then i will admit. But it still changes nothing. He attacked when we got in view. End of story. Just stop being shitty Fallen! Thats all I ask. I cannot see the point in avoiding playing the game. Just stop from now on. You are breaking the flipping game.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spleen on November 28, 2011, 11:46:56 pm
FINALLY we are being evil, all those smashing wannabe-templar armies without any abusing was so lame...
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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 12:15:55 am
FINALLY we are being evil, all those smashing wannabe-templar armies without any abusing was so lame...
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Sorry that we actually play the game fair and right. This is not role playing. This is not part of the game. So maybe the game will be more fun for you guys if you play with yourselves. The exploiting is getting soooo old! I am sick of the bullshit.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Shadowren on November 29, 2011, 12:25:20 am
Its what happens when u back Fallen into a corner.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 29, 2011, 12:40:38 am
Last comment im gona make.... Nice excuse you exploiting leech that will suck the blood outa cRPG.... Proof? Why would you attack you own fief with 1000troops I understand doing that to change the fief but why do you need to use 1000 troops? Answer that or tell the truth.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Everkistus on November 29, 2011, 12:44:11 am
Last comment im gona make.... Nice excuse you exploiting leech that will suck the blood outa cRPG.... Proof? Why would you attack you own fief with 1000troops I understand doing that to change the fief but why do you need to use 1000 troops? Answer that or tell the truth.
Because we can?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 29, 2011, 12:46:28 am
Because we can?

Why not use a few theres no need to use 1000 troops! Why to pay for the troops maybe? Or delaying?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Braeden on November 29, 2011, 12:48:03 am
Attacking with 1000 troops wouldn't delay any more than attacking with 10, Gomer.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 29, 2011, 12:48:40 am
Because we can?
Btw im not grilling you or anything and im not trolling but I smell fish.... Idk if my sisters legs are closed or not but Im almost shure it's this....
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Everkistus on November 29, 2011, 12:49:29 am
Why not use a few theres no need to use 1000 troops! Why to pay for the troops maybe? Or delaying?
Yes we wanted to pay upkeep so the soldiers can feed their families.

We at the Fallen Brigade are proud of our very good care of mercanaries. If they die on the field their corpses will get send back to their home villages for a proper funeral. Since this is costly, as an alternative we offer a years pay to the widow. No corpses have ever been returned from the battlefield.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spleen on November 29, 2011, 12:51:50 am
No corpses have ever been returned from the battlefield.

But we used all the zombies to ddos you ts, as has been proven (right?).
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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 29, 2011, 12:53:00 am
Yes we wanted to pay upkeep so the soldiers can feed their families.

We at the Fallen Brigade are proud of our very good care of mercanaries. If they die on the field their corpses will get send back to their home villages for a proper funeral. Since this is costly, as an alternative we offer a years pay to the widow. No corpses have ever been returned from the battlefield.

My point exaclty! Btw I was orderd to stop trolling so shhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 29, 2011, 12:54:03 am
We need at least 1/3 of the troops to make an attack. It was simplier to give all of them to Frank instead of doing math? I don't even know why you're asking that...  It's true we could have save some coins, I didn't think about the upkeep being higher.

Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Dehitay on November 29, 2011, 12:58:17 am
Its what happens when u back Fallen into a corner.
I'm not agreeing with what Frank did. I really wish he hadn't. I didn't want anybody at all to start doing this.

But that is a hilarious choice of wording considering what position of the steppe your only fief is in.

We need at least 1/3 of the troops to make an attack. It was simplier to give all of them to Frank instead of doing math? I don't even know why you're asking that...  It's true we could have save some coins, I didn't think about the upkeep being higher.
The village had a population of 300. It wasn't about math at all. It was completely about laziness.
Actually, the whole idea that using a large number of troops to attack when a smaller number could have sufficed doesn't really mean anything. It's obvious laziness and pretty much every clan would do the same unless they were significantly financially responsible
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 01:15:49 am
I'm not agreeing with what Frank did. I really wish he hadn't. I didn't want anybody at all to start doing this.

But that is a hilarious choice of wording considering what position of the steppe your only fief is in.
The village had a population of 300. It wasn't about math at all. It was completely about laziness.
Actually, the whole idea that using a large number of troops to attack when a smaller number could have sufficed doesn't really mean anything. It's obvious laziness and pretty much every clan would do the same unless they were significantly financially responsible
This is enough! Just stop what you are doing from now on and let strat live longer. Or kill it! It is up to you. What you did was shitty but whats done is done. Get back on track or you will end up killing the whole community.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Camaris on November 29, 2011, 01:21:44 am
Before fallen is responsible for killing any community there are some other clans waiting to do it for much longer.
So i guess fallen has to wait to kill crpg until it´s their turn.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gomer on November 29, 2011, 01:23:09 am
This is enough! Just stop what you are doing from now on and let strat live longer. Or kill it! It is up to you. What you did was shitty but whats done is done. Get back on track or you will end up killing the whole community.
This is enough! Just stop what you are doing from now on and let strat live longer. Or kill it! It is up to you. What you did was shitty but whats done is done. Get back on track or you will end up killing the whole community.
Fallen killing the community. It's like mexicans and boareder crossing. We all know they do it but they get pissed if you bring it up almost like they don't but you all know you do and all pay for it.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 01:43:18 am
I really wish you all would stop posting! this is so retarded. we all know what happened. Now drop it and change the tactics if you actually like strategus.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spleen on November 29, 2011, 01:47:32 am
Get back on track or you will end up killing the whole community.

Done - now stop posting yourself, you've been defeated twice!

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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 29, 2011, 02:16:45 am
Play nice gentlemen (and ladies), ruthless is one thing, but victories are hollow if the "spirit of the law" is broken too often. I think we all want a good fight.

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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 02:59:16 am
Done - now stop posting yourself, you've been defeated twice!

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Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have lost the battle against Fallen_Spleen [14]    
Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have lost the battle against Fallen_Spleen [14]    
Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have won the battle against Fallen_Bazinga [14]    
Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have won the battle against Harafat_HRE [7]    
Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have won the battle against Dashbigha [39]    
Moderators    Hospitaller_Devestater    You have won the battle against Dashbigha

LOL! that is the point! We fight battles and not avoid them. Whether we are going to win or lose. So lets get back on track and accept defeat when its imminent instead of stalling and dragging it out like a bunch of fairies. This is seriously the most desperate attempt ever of trying to avoid the truth. I am done with this immature bs on the forums. Hope I can actually see you on the battlefield so we can PLAY THE DAMN GAME... INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 29, 2011, 05:30:26 am
Awesome! Now I know how to make sure nobody ever takes Fisdnar from us!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lt_Anders on November 29, 2011, 05:47:29 am
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BTW THAT"S LAST STRAT as BLACKROSE isn't a clan anymore and was reformed just prior to strat 3.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Miracle on November 29, 2011, 05:59:05 am
BTW THAT"S LAST STRAT as BLACKROSE isn't a clan anymore and was reformed just prior to strat 3.
I don't think the deli caps were out last strat, were they?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 29, 2011, 06:43:19 am
I'm owner of Dusturil guys... This is not some big scheme. Why do you even think it's Frank in the first place...?

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But maybe I thought about all this back in strat 2!!! Yes!!! It's the most logical explanation. There is NO WAY I could be owner of Dusturil right now. It's just impossible.

This is seriously the most desperate attempt ever of trying to avoid the truth. I am done with this immature bs on the forums. Hope I can actually see you on the battlefield so we can PLAY THE DAMN GAME... INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT PLAYING THE GAME.

I should remind you we did not start this thread.

Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Matey on November 29, 2011, 06:44:11 am
not to mention godkindkaolokai or whatever still has blackrose tags to this day.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 07:16:04 am
Matey.... really? Just stfu! This doesn't even concern you! Butt out! I don't know why your fat ass feels the need to post in every thread! Get a life!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Matey on November 29, 2011, 07:46:28 am
Matey.... really? Just stfu! This doesn't even concern you! Butt out! I don't know why your fat ass feels the need to post in every thread! Get a life!

Ow... my feelings...  :cry:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 07:53:09 am
Ow... my feelings...  :cry:
good

now i agree with the rest of the peeps that this just needs to end. All I am asking is for people to stop tearing apart the game. So stop changing your damn night times so that it has to be fought by EU players on NA servers and play it the way it is supposed to. Why use exploits?! Did you honestly feel like you won then? I mean really as a clan? No. Its a fucking exploit and everyone knows it. I am fine with the whole world against us but give us the fucking chance to show up! I mean what fun is it for anyone at that point? We all have real lives too! (except matey)


ps. Matey take a bath. You smell like shit!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 07:53:56 am
Ow... my feelings...  :cry:

I guess correcting mistakes is bad.  We should all live in blessed ignorance.  :rolleyes:


In the spirit of that "the whole world is against us" - ehh, not quite as you are a member of an 8 clan alliance with 7 OFFICIAL allies and many people that merc for you and are unofficial allies.

Frankly we don't know that they were not switching ownership.  Glaurung probably just happened to be the leader of the initial attack, but not active enough to manage a fief under constant attack.  I say give the benefit of the doubt unless you knew for certain - otherwise you accuse people of things that you have no real proof of and get mad at them for something completely innocent affecting you.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Devestater on November 29, 2011, 08:00:50 am
I guess correcting mistakes is bad.  We should all live in blessed ignorance.  :rolleyes:


In the spirit of that "the whole world is against us" - ehh, not quite as you are a member of an 8 clan alliance with 7 OFFICIAL allies and many people that merc for you and are unofficial allies.

Frankly we don't know that they were not switching ownership.  Glaurung probably just happened to be the leader of the initial attack, but not active enough to manage a fief under constant attack.  I say give the benefit of the doubt unless you knew for certain - otherwise you accuse people of things that you have no real proof of and get mad at them for something completely innocent affecting you.

I agree with your first statement if you believe that kesh. I watched it all happen and you of all people should know.

THIS IS GETTING SOOO OFF TRACK! THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE. I AM DONE WITH THIS THREAD. IF THIS IS HOW IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE... STRAT WONT LAST LONG FOR NA.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 08:22:06 am
UIF has always owned NA. They are just letting us build up our civilizations before they systematically wipe us all out once they think it will be a decent fight. They are like the reapers in mass effect.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Loki on November 29, 2011, 09:08:24 am
I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

As for the night-time thing, tough shit, we are primarily an EU clan and that's what night-time was put in place for.

As for your whole "everyone is ganging up on us" arguement, I'm flattered, because it's just been Fallen Brigade and HRE troops so far.  In fact, I've been loaning FCC troops, not the other way around.

So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gristle on November 29, 2011, 09:31:34 am
Now that's bold.

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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Snoozer on November 29, 2011, 10:45:15 am
I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

As for the night-time thing, tough shit, we are primarily an EU clan and that's what night-time was put in place for.

As for your whole "everyone is ganging up on us" arguement, I'm flattered, because it's just been Fallen Brigade and HRE troops so far.  In fact, I've been loaning FCC troops, not the other way around.

So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.
THANK YOU finally you two faced fucks are honest for once you when play dirty

and if you are primarily an EU clan why are you on NA grounds then?TO EXPLOIT THE CLOCK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spleen on November 29, 2011, 10:58:31 am
and if you are primarily an EU clan why are you on NA grounds then?TO EXPLOIT THE CLOCK!!!!!!!

Because we've always been in the steppe and can fight at awkward times with horrible pings and still pull of a show.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: theero on November 29, 2011, 10:59:07 am
and if you are primarily an EU clan why are you on NA grounds then?TO EXPLOIT THE CLOCK!!!!!!!

Intercontinental clan. If that's a too long word for you to understand, it means that WE (meaning us, the Fallens) HAVE (like owning) PLAYERS (people who play cRPG) ON (preposition) BOTH (conjuction) CONTINENTS (a very big amount of land, x2 ). Also, Loki is an americunt :P .
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 11:01:45 am
Rest assured appropriate action will be taken against Loki for his criminal actions. He will be stripped of his stars and titles but mostly his clothes. We believe he will try to resist this, but we are confident of our success as the Brigade finds great pleasure in stripping men of their clothes.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 12:26:00 pm
I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

As for the night-time thing, tough shit, we are primarily an EU clan and that's what night-time was put in place for.

As for your whole "everyone is ganging up on us" arguement, I'm flattered, because it's just been Fallen Brigade and HRE troops so far.  In fact, I've been loaning FCC troops, not the other way around.

So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.

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My Reaction to hearing a Fallen/FCC member cheated during strategus.

Also my reaction whenever a badmin boots a whole team out of a strat battle because their bored   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Casimir on November 29, 2011, 12:40:11 pm
Admittign to intentionally exploiting a game mechanic, doesnt that normally follow some kind of action by the devs?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 29, 2011, 12:44:39 pm
So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.
(click to show/hide)

Because we've always been in the steppe and can fight at awkward times with horrible pings and still pull of a show.

(click to show/hide)

My Reaction to hearing a Fallen/FCC member cheated during strategus.
Get of my lawn!

Cheating would say there is some kind of ...cheat...
It might have been
(click to show/hide)

But hey...this 'feature' has been known loooong

And what action by the devs CAN follow up on this? Maybe fixing the hole thing (what was asked for weeks ago by Mannhammer of the Fallens in the Thread linked somewhere here...)?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 12:46:18 pm
Admittign to intentionally exploiting a game mechanic, doesnt that normally follow some kind of action by the devs?

Like fixing the exploit? We're all for that.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 12:50:29 pm
I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

That is what I call gaining tactical advantage by using available resources, and I do approve it. Well done.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Count_Curtis on November 29, 2011, 01:20:39 pm
we should get all the hospitaller rage, and make a huge cake out of it
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: dynamike on November 29, 2011, 03:51:46 pm
After reading the whole thread and carefully weighing all options I conclude that they are right.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: ManOfWar on November 29, 2011, 03:53:38 pm
I'll openly admit it was solely to delay the attack for at least 24 hrs.  It's a shitty game mechanic, I didn't make it, but I will use it to my advantage.

As for the night-time thing, tough shit, we are primarily an EU clan and that's what night-time was put in place for.

As for your whole "everyone is ganging up on us" arguement, I'm flattered, because it's just been Fallen Brigade and HRE troops so far.  In fact, I've been loaning FCC troops, not the other way around.

So in conclusion, I don't care what you think of me. Fuck you.

Why are Americans in control of a primarily EU clan?  If you are a primarily EU clan why not play on the EU side...
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Rikthor on November 29, 2011, 04:26:48 pm
Why are Americans in control of a primarily EU clan?  If you are a primarily EU clan why not play on the EU side...

They want a taste of American Exceptionalism  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 29, 2011, 05:42:42 pm
People have been talking about no village control in the strategus issues...if you don't post a comment in there (or I'd recommend posting a new thread in there) the dev's most likely will never know about this thread.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 29, 2011, 06:08:13 pm
Why are Americans in control of a primarily EU clan?  If you are a primarily EU clan why not play on the EU side...

Fallens are international.
Lots of Eu players but a bunchload of NA aswell...
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on November 29, 2011, 06:42:03 pm
That is what I call gaining tactical advantage by using available resources, and I do approve it. Well done.

This.

Stop crying because they are smarter than you, you didn't show any usefull or brillant tactic and strategy since 3 versions of strategus and every time someone crush you, you come to this forum to make drama.
Anyway even if you would like to cheat, you couldn't, it requires some thought.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 29, 2011, 06:51:21 pm
If you had a legitimate reason to use an exploit (such as wanting to transfer ownership of the fief) you'd have a leg to stand on.  If you use an exploit just because it can be abused to your advantage then you don't have a leg to stand on.  Sploiters are just as bad as cheaters.  I blame the dev's for not fixing this issue a month ago when it was brought up, but I'd also blame the people using a known exploit for no other reason than to delay an attack on a village.

Same type of people who would use wall hacks in a first person shooter if they were able to do it through an exploit (like console commands) as opposed to downloading a 3rd party program.  Cheating is cheating regardless of how it's done.  Ridiculous to watch people try and defend it.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 07:34:41 pm
Interesting.

Now, correct me if I am wrong - the exploit is a game feature that is used in the manner not intended by developers, correct? Still, it is a game feature. The game mechanics allow you to something. There is no game rule that you are not allowed to such thing. I dare to ask - why such use of the game feature should be penalized.

Sometimes the "exploit" turns into widely used method, sometimes it is regarded "bad" and disallowed either by setting the rule, or by change in game mechanics. But sometimes such feature is adopted as it is regarded useful or interesting from the tactical point of view; possibly with some tweaks. Need examples? See chains of transfers in Strat 2.0, and withdrawals from the battle in Strat 2.0. Technically both could be regarded as "exploits",  one was replaced by sophisticated speed/cargo/transport requirements, the other still remains as viable option.

New "exploits" come up all the time. Nothing can be done about it, as Strat is still under construction. In fact community learns about them quite quickly, it is a small world after all. Now it is devs job to decide - should such feature be removed, changed into a new system or left either in original or altered form. There are known exploits - such as tweaking with night time - that can be used by anyone. The devs have ability to do something about it, if they find it necessary.

Night time is a tool originally intended to be used as protection against having fights in the time that is inconvenient for defender. I cannot imagine less inconvenient situation than just before the attack. Moreover - there is a simple remedy to it: if change of the night time is effective, say, 8 h after it is set, and there is a cool - down period after such change, any sudden change would require foreseeing abilities of Delphic Sibyl and could be painful for defender if used wrongly. However, until such change is made by devs (that apparently are reluctant to change the rules on that commonly known "exploit" for whatever reason they may have), it still is a game feature.

The greatest issue are the exploits that are known to the community. The longer certain feature stays in Strat, the more commonly it is used. In the result such feature ceases to be an "exploit", it simply becomes a regular feature. Considering that devs do not share their plans as to the future game mechanics' changes too often (although that changed a bit recently), it is really hard to say if certain action is "ok" or "not ok", until the rule is set by the almighty devs, or such feature is altered, removed or replaced with something new. Need example? See enormous loots in Strat 2.0. Was it bug? Or was it intended action of devs to speed up the game and see/test  more battles in shorter time?  I have no idea but I suspect the latter. All in all - it resulted in surprising tactical and strategical decisions of players. 

EDIT: There is a difference between the "cheat" and the "exploit" - the first is clearly not allowed, the second, well, you cannot know for sure.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Count_Curtis on November 29, 2011, 08:41:16 pm
Cool textwall man.

Let me also make it clear that fallen are a global clan, cause by the looks of what people are saying, it would seem nobody has brought this to attention yet /sarcasm
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 09:32:11 pm
Cool textwall man.


Hey now, it kept the mongols out of Poland. 
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Erasmas on November 29, 2011, 09:33:50 pm
You must be REALLY pissed off, Kesh...
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Darkkarma on November 29, 2011, 09:36:13 pm
Indeed, staying angry is what we Americans do best!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Keshian on November 29, 2011, 09:38:32 pm
You must be REALLY pissed off, Kesh...

No.  Just poking a little bit of fun.  Didnt even bother reading it, just too many words for a silly subject.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Serfonz on November 29, 2011, 10:08:19 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming&battleid=559
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spurdospera on November 29, 2011, 10:14:03 pm
This thread amuses me greatly, making me to stop doing my studying stuff.

GOOD JOB!

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=battlesupcoming&battleid=559

Going to be something really epic shit ja?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Glaurung on November 29, 2011, 10:18:25 pm
Well shit.  :lol:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 10:19:11 pm
HAHAHAH, this ought to be fun :D
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 29, 2011, 10:37:23 pm
*grml*

middle of the night!


flying carpets burn like every other carpet!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 10:43:30 pm
Will you bundle of sticks mother fuckers stop delaying strat before I go get Breaden to kick you???

This is 2 times u attack ur own village! 2 days in a row! Bitch asses....
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 29, 2011, 10:44:10 pm
What? chadz is attacking us... Read the names. Notice anything famous about those names?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 10:47:52 pm
chadz new strat name is a_dark_force?? why would he help you??... O wait...  :?
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 10:48:54 pm
Will you bundle of sticks mother fuckers stop delaying strat before I go get Breaden to kick you???

This is 2 times u attack ur own village! 2 days in a row! Bitch asses....

lol
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on November 29, 2011, 10:50:11 pm
chadz new strat name is a_dark_force?? why would he help you??... O wait...  :?

I would hardly call it help considering he has two extremely broken magic flying carpet firebomb throwing fireball shooting magic staff characters signed up!  :lol:

Someone better fraps this massacre.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gristle on November 29, 2011, 10:52:05 pm
What? chadz is attacking us... Read the names. Notice anything famous about those names?

Hope you guys bought enough potions of fire resistance. Maybe you'll get to loot some flying carpets if you win!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Vibe on November 29, 2011, 10:55:09 pm
Don't worry, all our looms are crafted with + fire resist

We also got this guy to lead us through the battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 11:11:07 pm
You admin when you all feel like it. Bad mins fail me again  :wink:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 29, 2011, 11:24:15 pm
Will you bundle of sticks mother fuckers stop delaying strat before I go get Breaden to kick you???

This is 2 times u attack ur own village! 2 days in a row! Bitch asses....

learn to read man :D
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 29, 2011, 11:39:06 pm
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :shock:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Warne! on November 29, 2011, 11:40:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4E4iFKMuOg
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Dan lol on November 30, 2011, 12:08:40 am
I can show you the world
Shining, shimmering, splendid
 Tell me, princess, now when did You last let your heart decide?
I can open your eyes
Take you wonder by wonder
Over, sideways and under
On a magic carpet ride
A whole new world
A new fantastic point of view
No one to tell us no or where to go
Or say we're only dreaming
A whole new world
A dazzling place I never knew
But when I'm way up here, it's crystal clear
That now I'm in a whole new world with you
 Now I'm in a whole new world with you
Unbelievable sights
 Indescribable feeling
 Soaring, tumbling, freewheeling
 Through an endless diamond sky
A whole new world
 Don't you dare close your eyes
A hundred thousand things to see (Hold your breath, it gets better)
I'm like a shooting star
 I've come so far
 I can't go back To where I used to be
A whole new world
 Every turn a surprise
 With new horizons to pursue
 Every moment red-letter
I'll chase them anywhere
 There's time to spare
Let me share this whole new world with you
A whole new world
 That's where we'll be
 A thrilling chase
 A wondrous place
 For you and me
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 30, 2011, 12:35:10 am
Warne! love the vid

Dan love the dance


now heres the real music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtByF-u6JbI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtByF-u6JbI)
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 30, 2011, 12:45:08 am
NOT EVEN DARK MAGIC CAN STOP FALLENS!!!!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Native_ATS on November 30, 2011, 12:46:16 am
NOT EVEN DARK MAGIC CAN STOP FALLENS!!!!
spoken like a true my old friend  :lol:
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Camaris on November 30, 2011, 12:47:13 am
i would have done better on that carpet... next time hire me as merc dark force...
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Snoozer on November 30, 2011, 12:49:52 am
i would have done better on that carpet... next time hire me as merc dark force...


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


it would be hilarious now we are out the range of fallen trolololol
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Darkkarma on November 30, 2011, 04:15:47 am
Just heard about the strat battle and suddenly those earlier posts make alot more sense... absolutely outstanding.
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 05:11:48 am
http://raz.z0r.de/L/z0r-de_1691.swf
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Nihtgenga on November 30, 2011, 06:43:42 am
Will you bundle of sticks mother fuckers stop delaying strat before I go get Breaden to kick you???

This is 2 times u attack ur own village! 2 days in a row! Bitch asses....

no words!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Snoozer on November 30, 2011, 07:28:18 am
http://raz.z0r.de/L/z0r-de_1691.swf

does it have some secret meaning?idk it looks nice though i suppose

no words!

lol i think he thought they attacked their village again when in fact they got attacked by THE DARK FORCE!!!!


i assume idk if they did it twice
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Dehitay on November 30, 2011, 07:38:08 am
lol i think he thought they attacked their village again when in fact they got attacked by THE DARK FORCE!!!!


i assume idk if they did it twice
It was "a dark force" which means it was just some random dark force, not THE dark force. Which also implies there's more than one. Be afraid! Be very afraid!

And Fallen's official stance is that we didn't attack out village twice. We in no way figured out how to hax flying carpets and fireballs. We did not proceed to then attack Dusturil in an attempt to throw the crpg community off our trail by using the logic of "there's no way our haxors would attack us". We totally do not have flying carpet and fireball technology. Please do not believe any claims otherwise, and continue to remain naively void of any suspicion
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Spleen on November 30, 2011, 12:15:31 pm
I am now one of the very few guys that can say they shot a man on a flying carpet with a short bow. Beat that!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on November 30, 2011, 12:18:24 pm

lol i think he thought they attacked their village again when in fact they got attacked by THE DARK FORCE!!!!


i assume idk if they did it twice

I hope is not in hospi leadership (well that will explain many thing...)
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Lordark on November 30, 2011, 12:22:22 pm
I am now one of the very few guys that can say they shot a man on a flying carpet with a short bow. Beat that!

Omg Spleen killed chadz......  YOU BASTARDS!!!


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Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Niemand on November 30, 2011, 12:37:16 pm
does it have some secret meaning?idk it looks nice though i suppose
I don't need to answer that, right? Just watch it until you understood it.

I am now one of the very few guys that can say they shot a man on a flying carpet with a short bow. Beat that!
If I would not know what youre talking about, I would ask you for the number of your dealer. :D
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on November 30, 2011, 01:58:41 pm
I am now one of the very few guys that can say they shot a man on a flying carpet with a short bow. Beat that!

shot 2 of them...beat THAT!
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Dehitay on November 30, 2011, 06:24:14 pm
shot 2 of them...beat THAT!
I'm pretty sure I shot all of them. But with a Short Bow, I managed to kill none of them
Title: Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
Post by: Everkistus on November 30, 2011, 07:24:35 pm
I shot one down, bodyshotted a few of them. I will now spoil the thread for everyone because this sillyness has continued for far too long.

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