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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #90 on: November 29, 2011, 06:08:13 pm »
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Why are Americans in control of a primarily EU clan?  If you are a primarily EU clan why not play on the EU side...

Fallens are international.
Lots of Eu players but a bunchload of NA aswell...
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #91 on: November 29, 2011, 06:42:03 pm »
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That is what I call gaining tactical advantage by using available resources, and I do approve it. Well done.

This.

Stop crying because they are smarter than you, you didn't show any usefull or brillant tactic and strategy since 3 versions of strategus and every time someone crush you, you come to this forum to make drama.
Anyway even if you would like to cheat, you couldn't, it requires some thought.

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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #92 on: November 29, 2011, 06:51:21 pm »
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If you had a legitimate reason to use an exploit (such as wanting to transfer ownership of the fief) you'd have a leg to stand on.  If you use an exploit just because it can be abused to your advantage then you don't have a leg to stand on.  Sploiters are just as bad as cheaters.  I blame the dev's for not fixing this issue a month ago when it was brought up, but I'd also blame the people using a known exploit for no other reason than to delay an attack on a village.

Same type of people who would use wall hacks in a first person shooter if they were able to do it through an exploit (like console commands) as opposed to downloading a 3rd party program.  Cheating is cheating regardless of how it's done.  Ridiculous to watch people try and defend it.
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #93 on: November 29, 2011, 07:34:41 pm »
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Interesting.

Now, correct me if I am wrong - the exploit is a game feature that is used in the manner not intended by developers, correct? Still, it is a game feature. The game mechanics allow you to something. There is no game rule that you are not allowed to such thing. I dare to ask - why such use of the game feature should be penalized.

Sometimes the "exploit" turns into widely used method, sometimes it is regarded "bad" and disallowed either by setting the rule, or by change in game mechanics. But sometimes such feature is adopted as it is regarded useful or interesting from the tactical point of view; possibly with some tweaks. Need examples? See chains of transfers in Strat 2.0, and withdrawals from the battle in Strat 2.0. Technically both could be regarded as "exploits",  one was replaced by sophisticated speed/cargo/transport requirements, the other still remains as viable option.

New "exploits" come up all the time. Nothing can be done about it, as Strat is still under construction. In fact community learns about them quite quickly, it is a small world after all. Now it is devs job to decide - should such feature be removed, changed into a new system or left either in original or altered form. There are known exploits - such as tweaking with night time - that can be used by anyone. The devs have ability to do something about it, if they find it necessary.

Night time is a tool originally intended to be used as protection against having fights in the time that is inconvenient for defender. I cannot imagine less inconvenient situation than just before the attack. Moreover - there is a simple remedy to it: if change of the night time is effective, say, 8 h after it is set, and there is a cool - down period after such change, any sudden change would require foreseeing abilities of Delphic Sibyl and could be painful for defender if used wrongly. However, until such change is made by devs (that apparently are reluctant to change the rules on that commonly known "exploit" for whatever reason they may have), it still is a game feature.

The greatest issue are the exploits that are known to the community. The longer certain feature stays in Strat, the more commonly it is used. In the result such feature ceases to be an "exploit", it simply becomes a regular feature. Considering that devs do not share their plans as to the future game mechanics' changes too often (although that changed a bit recently), it is really hard to say if certain action is "ok" or "not ok", until the rule is set by the almighty devs, or such feature is altered, removed or replaced with something new. Need example? See enormous loots in Strat 2.0. Was it bug? Or was it intended action of devs to speed up the game and see/test  more battles in shorter time?  I have no idea but I suspect the latter. All in all - it resulted in surprising tactical and strategical decisions of players. 

EDIT: There is a difference between the "cheat" and the "exploit" - the first is clearly not allowed, the second, well, you cannot know for sure.
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #94 on: November 29, 2011, 08:41:16 pm »
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Cool textwall man.

Let me also make it clear that fallen are a global clan, cause by the looks of what people are saying, it would seem nobody has brought this to attention yet /sarcasm
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #95 on: November 29, 2011, 09:32:11 pm »
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Cool textwall man.


Hey now, it kept the mongols out of Poland. 
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #96 on: November 29, 2011, 09:33:50 pm »
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You must be REALLY pissed off, Kesh...
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #97 on: November 29, 2011, 09:36:13 pm »
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Indeed, staying angry is what we Americans do best!
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #98 on: November 29, 2011, 09:38:32 pm »
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You must be REALLY pissed off, Kesh...

No.  Just poking a little bit of fun.  Didnt even bother reading it, just too many words for a silly subject.
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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #100 on: November 29, 2011, 10:14:03 pm »
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This thread amuses me greatly, making me to stop doing my studying stuff.

GOOD JOB!

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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #101 on: November 29, 2011, 10:18:25 pm »
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Well shit.  :lol:

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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #102 on: November 29, 2011, 10:19:11 pm »
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HAHAHAH, this ought to be fun :D

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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #103 on: November 29, 2011, 10:37:23 pm »
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*grml*

middle of the night!


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Re: Loki mate, need some help with that?
« Reply #104 on: November 29, 2011, 10:43:30 pm »
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Will you bundle of sticks mother fuckers stop delaying strat before I go get Breaden to kick you???

This is 2 times u attack ur own village! 2 days in a row! Bitch asses....
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