But I understand as an admin you should be held to higher standards. The issue I have with this though is one ANYONE ON EARTH WOULD OF ACCEPTED THAT TRADE. How is it his fault that the other party didn't do thier research.
Happened a lot of times, but guess what? The items got eventually returned after some messaging or stuff. Even if both sides were hot tempered, there were some examples of nice attitude and giving back. Some people were even camping market during the password breach wave so they could save other peoples stuff.
So no, i do not support poop in any way other than when he will be my teammate on battle. (mind you when that happened i was not in Wolves, and you know, some people might borrow some MWs to new players...)
Thier risk. It wasn't during that time and wasn't a PW breach. It was awhile ago why didn't they bring up asking for the item back THEN. Why was his admin rights removed because a MARKETPLACE not INGAME transaction. Idk I just don't see how this is fair for him it's kinda fishy kinda bull...
General rule: do not be a douche :mrgreen:
The guy who he bought the Nodachi off thought the 10k he got for it was a good deal, it's not like he put it up by accident for that amount then asked for it back. If I put Lordly Mail gauntlets up for 600k (On purpose) and someone buys them, then later on I realise I got shafted by that deal, it is entirely my fault and not the person who bought it's fault.
This thread does nothing but cause drama.
Obviously most of you are douchebags and would stab your own mother in the throat for an extra slice of pie,
Well when you put it that way :P I posted a link to the other half the story in my topic.That was not the half I was talking about, but alright.
So you basically want the public to discuss something that so far is only half the story, and draw conclusions despite not knowing the rest of the story and why things ended the way that they did?
Haha you just get more and more stuck up by the day.
Oh how DARE the Public discuss something, who do THEY think they ARE.
Cannot wait until you get admin removed (for the second time and hopefully permanently this time)
That was not the half I was talking about, but alright.
Anywho, it is late, so I shall go. I expect to read rather interesting or amusing replies when I get back. Best of luck with your discussion.
Obviouslymost ofyou are douchebags
Look I have recently done some poking around into the topic of PoopHammers removal of admin rights. I have heard two sides of this story and will start by getting you caught up :mrgreen:.
General rule: do not be a douche :mrgreen:
General rule 2: Panos is a douche.
I also love how poophammer barely posts in these threads at all. Not that he needs to, going by how many people are moving to have his admin re-instated. It's pretty cool.
What it pretty much comes down to is this: The rationale behind removing the admin rights was not that poop violated rules or scammed the guy, he definitely didn't. The point behind having him lose it was that as a admin and veteran market seller, he should have cut this newguy a bit of a break (what the the fuck a new guy was doing with a MW item is beyond me) and lead by example of being a fair, virtuous member of the community. That's fine,the standards of admin conduct in game are entirely up to the dev team that instates admin in the first place. What irks me is the fact that this entire issue was brought up , discussed and complained about under a day with action being finalized before poop could even log on and give his two cents. Still, it doesn't change the fact that the standard for how an admin carries them self is entirely up to the dev team and whether we agree with it or not, it is eventually up to them. I didn't agree with the move to have has admin removed, but I could at least understand and respect the rationale behind doing it. Hopefully they give poop another shot in the future.
An admin should be someone that helps people out. Not take advantage of thier mistakes. Nuf said.
This is my opinion and this is not targeting poophammer. Tears on the other hand is total opposite of poop and he/she(can't tell, too many girl avatars) is still an admin.
seeing a deal on the market and clicking ACCEPT is not taking advantages of mistakes. the only big mistake is crying to have that player punished to compensate for the item loss. because first of all he's a player and i bet all players would have done the same without thinking about it two times.
if you don't know market prices, you don't start selling stuff at random prices. if you do, it's your fault. you don't like it? make a poll to have fixed market prices for everyone.
Let me just chime in here.
Brief Synopsis:
Poophammer bought an item off of the market place for a hell of a good deal, then went to sleep. A thread was made of it, and a PM sent to him. It spiraled out of control and he lost admin, all before he woke up.
My thoughts:
Even if he decided to do the right think he had no time before his admin was removed. Instead he was punished for something that he had no control over. If the community, and specifically The Wolves, had waited a bit to contact him via PM rather than crucifying him in a thread then he might still have admin.
It was the community, and specifically the EU community (who don't even frequent the NA servers enough to worry about his admin) that got it removed. Instead of treating him like a responsible adult and giving him the time to respond they decided to demand he be removed. It was nothing but a lynching and everyone involved should be ashamed. Poophammer was a good (if lenient) admin and did right by the NA community.
Conclusion:
I think that Poophammer's admin should be restored; The Wolves, and specifically Kinngrimm should apologize to Poophammer; and in a gesture of goodwill Poophammer should return the item for a refund of his money.
P.S. Churchill stop double posting. There is a "Modify" button there for a reason.
Btw this happened like a month after the transaction watch is the worse part.....
Regardless of when it happened. The community called him out, put a noose around his neck, and destroyed him before he even had a chance to respond to the PM.
Wait now, NA Admins are now allowed to fully go into detail listing our exact concerns in public about previous decisions? I thought this was frowned upon.
An admin should be someone that helps people out. Not take advantage of thier mistakes. Nuf said.Thank you kindly, I shall take that as a compliment.
This is my opinion and this is not targeting poophammer. Tears on the other hand is total opposite of poop and he/she(can't tell, too many girl avatars) is still an admin.
You are the only NA admin that is a C-rpg meme at the moment.Multiple memes actually.
A) Run a script that buys underpriced items from the market. Chortle over your winnings.
or
B) Be an admin.
You can do either of these. No problem there.
You cannot do both. Pick one and do that.
Poophammer bought an item off of the market place for a hell of a good deal, then went to sleep. A thread was made of it, and a PM sent to him. It spiraled out of control and he lost admin, all before he woke up.
Did you actually read the opening post in kinns topic? http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,20499.0.html
Poop told kinn that he had already sold the Nodachi - I guess that counts as awake.
That topic popping out a month after the incident sure is suspicious. Sounds like personal vendetta again, just like Nuffen's case.
seeing a deal on the market and clicking ACCEPT is not taking advantages of mistakes. the only big mistake is crying to have that player punished to compensate for the item loss. because first of all he's a player and i bet all players would have done the same without thinking about it two times.
if you don't know market prices, you don't start selling stuff at random prices. if you do, it's your fault. you don't like it? make a poll to have fixed market prices for everyone.
In general admins shouldn't troll, be arrogant, blablabla, basically all the fun stuff is a no go for an admin.O shi-
Just because general douchebaggery were allowed during the beginning of this mod doesn't mean it should be the standard scenario.
Admins should be in simple turns, spokesmen for the game they're servicing.
And this is where you are wrong
If i was Poop i'll say fuck you to this community, the guy make a deal on market with a dumb player (when you sell something you chek price of other thing, it's obvious that MW worth more than 1.000.000 gold), then someone come to rescue, Poop told there could be an arrangement, they said it's ok.
Now they're crying, making drama on forum one month later, in one day admin right removed (with only one version of the story) damm where is justice in here?
Seriously i understand Poop, fuck admin rights, that's bs.
Btw the dumb one sells now 3 MW items, i have only 2, how he is a newplayer with 3 MW?
Btw the dumb one sells now 3 MW items, i have only 2, how he is a newplayer with 3 MW?
I have two dads....
I don't understand why people think this has anything to do with the image of admins. As long as they aren't acting like tards on the forums, ingame behaviour is how they set a good image. In this case I don't see why POOPHAMMER should be stripped of his rights. He and others are all known to be cuthroat merchants. Why don't you ban them as well? Why didn't you make a big thing out of this in the past?
This is bull. This is the way any good merchant makes money: buying low, selling high.
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It's only natural, because it's the only way you can make money here by simply buying and selling.
Some people here net to get their moral compass straight again very badly. Really.I agree wholehearthely. They also need to be consistent in their behavior. Looking at previous cases, we have seen they are clearly not consistent in their judgement.
Admins are there to HELP the community. They are far more thn just more or less reliable guys who press kick- and ban-buttons if needed. They are meant to be authorities, and in such a small community like cRPG one important aspect of their work is to make as many players feel comfortable as possible, to help keeping the community as big as possible.
Are you fucking serious? :shock:I am. I even dare say this experience was good for the lad. We all have to go trough these experiences at least once.
You are blowing this up out of proportion. Real life has nothing to do with the crpg marketplace, layoffs are much bigger an issue than selling someones nodachi on a game for a nice profit. Any sane person would've bought the item and sold it for more profit. Not to mention that POOP showed the intention of actually helping the guy out, but they didn't ask for it. It was all fine and now a month later they start bitching about it. He is showing the admin behaviour you want him to show by still doing what everyone would do, but offering compensation afterwards. Something everyone wouldn't do.(click to show/hide)
What I admit is, that the behaviour of kinngrimm and Wolves_Wintersturm was... weird, at the best, but if they didn't lie (and Poophammer did not deny it happened that way), and if he answered their PM really with "sorry, I already sold it." instead of "sorry, I already sold it, but you are right, that was not okay from me, here are another 900.000 gold." he deserved it.An ingame admin should protect the interests of the ingame population. While showing normal behavior on the forums. POOP didn't break any of these rules of thumb. That he can't buy items at a low price is a ridiculous thing to state. When you own such an item you should know better. If the admin in question even tries to help you out but you say 'no thanks, no need' than the case is closed.
And I doubt it was the poll that initiated the admin rights removal, it was the entire discussion about that gross behaviour.
Some people here really think that being an admin is some kind of privilege, but the only way this works is when being an admint represents a burden. Everything else attracts the wrong people.
Unless you show how taking advantage of the misfortune of people who you are meant to help and protect is okay as admin, there is no need to further discuss if Poophammers fate was deserved or not. It was.
Some people here net to get their moral compass straight again very badly. Really.
Community of scummy sputum poopsockers. Absolute vile wretched excuses of human beings. So nice to see more people are figuring this out.Do you have any idea how annoying you are?
What you guys are doing is a different version of this;
If I sold all my gear for a good price now, but then find out that it sells for a higher price later. You're telling me that I should make a post asking the devs to punish the guy who took up my offer, then return my items to me so I can resell it for a higher price.
if you sold all your gear for 100k even if its worth 1000k, yes, I would tell you to do so.And the guy should not be punished, only if he is an admin, which means he should get his admin rights removed.
Oh, see?Thats exactly what happened here!
Admins have the same right as any player. Simply because he's a fast market player, doesn't mean he should be punished for it.
Admin's actually have more rights than the other players., but they have more responsibilities.
I believe that the problem is its an admin's responsibility to try and be a good person, to set an example to the community as to what is appropriate behaviour.
The administrators should be setting an example for the masses to follow, the powers they are granted in game comes with a responsibility to do this. They are meant to be active players of good trustworthy reputation and who can deal with a level of accountability for their action. Poophammer showed himself to be exploitative and unwilling to cooperate with people who have had dealings with him on hte marketplace.
If any old joe blogs had made this deal sure I'd feel bad for the guy who lost out but there is little that can be done, in this case it was different. Admin's have a responsibility, poop clearly knew that the deal was way off the standard and as a decent person he should have let the guy know.
He didn't, he set a bad example, he was punished.
TL:DR - If you want to be an admin try to be a nice person
Besides if there are no privileges to being an admin why does it matter who an admin is and why do people get so emotional about the topic?
Just a question to all the haters: is it POOPHAMMER's job to be a perfect example of a perfect human being or does his job require him to set a good example ingame and punish anyone breaking the rules?
Any sane person would've bought the item and sold it for more profit.
Not to mention that POOP showed the intention of actually helping the guy out, but they didn't ask for it. It was all fine and now a month later they start bitching about it. He is showing the admin behaviour you want him to show by still doing what everyone would do, but offering compensation afterwards. Something everyone wouldn't do.
An ingame admin should protect the interests of the ingame population. While showing normal behavior on the forums. POOP didn't break any of these rules of thumb.
That he can't buy items at a low price is a ridiculous thing to state. When you own such an item you should know better. If the admin in question even tries to help you out but you say 'no thanks, no need' than the case is closed.
On the matter of losing credibility, go ask the NA server population if they believe POOPHAMMER is a bad admin because of this. I'm willing to state most of them will say that they don't care at all.
Poop did nothing wrong, just because he watches the marketplace like a hawk, doesn't mean that you should all come crying to the admins that you got screwed.
Admins have the same right as any player. Simply because he's a fast market player, doesn't mean he should be punished for it.
Just a question to all the haters: is it POOPHAMMER's job to be a perfect example of a perfect human being or does his job require him to set a good example ingame and punish anyone breaking the rules?
Blah blah blah, and blah blah blah,
blah blah blah again....
Are you still playing this mod?
Only absolutely good guys, so to say "living saints" should be allowed to be admins. Whoever doesn't fit this description is to be removed from that position. Period.
and why do people get so emotional about the topic?
Cause and effect.
Theymad about not being able to troll and act like douche-bags towards the community anymore.
OH NOES things have consequences online! The horror!
It is easy to see what is going on in this thread, just look at those who's supporting these actions, clear pattern, especially if you on top of that base it upon those peoples prior personal conduct, both in-game and on the forum. Best would be to just note them all down, close the thread, and throw away the "key".
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Let's cleanse this mod already. For god damn Talos.
No admins do, or ever will fit that description. Perhaps we should remove them all and let the rule breakers run the servers.
Btw the dumb one sells now 3 MW items, i have only 2, how he is a newplayer with 3 MW?We have a player Wintersturm(germany), now Winter_Market_Peasent, this it the player in question, he has atm a 1 times loomed weapon as far as i know.
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Moreover, Kinngrim should, as a betatester, be able to comment objectively, not biased. He clearly has shown he only has interest for his clan, his credibility as a tester is damaged by this fact. What's to stop him from being biased towards future implementations?
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...Ask Fallen_Thorben, Herkutati_of_Acre, Prpavi(without clan) and others were i invested time not for my own clan members so that those get items back or give them back to those who made mistakes when they put them up.
In fact, I think Kinngrim is the one going over the line with his biased poll and way of acting when it's a clanmate. I didn't see him protecting others that got 'shafted'.
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Brief Synopsis:as stated before the deal was roughly one month back, but myself got to know about it just before i made first post.
Poophammer bought an item off of the market place for a hell of a good deal, then went to sleep. A thread was made of it, and a PM sent to him. It spiraled out of control and he lost admin, all before he woke up.
My thoughts:
Even if he decided to do the right think he had no time before his admin was removed. Instead he was punished for something that he had no control over. If the community, and specifically The Wolves, had waited a bit to contact him via PM rather than crucifying him in a thread then he might still have admin.
It was the community, and specifically the EU community (who don't even frequent the NA servers enough to worry about his admin) that got it removed. Instead of treating him like a responsible adult and giving him the time to respond they decided to demand he be removed. It was nothing but a lynching and everyone involved should be ashamed. Poophammer was a good (if lenient) admin and did right by the NA community.Myself was often on NA servers when i started playing and lately i am more often on NA servers again, through strategus, i dont play at all anymore that much crpg though. The EU community didnt remove his admin, Shik did and for the reasons why Shik decided that way you need to speak to Shik.
I think that Poophammer's admin should be restored; The Wolves, and specifically Kinngrimm should apologize to Poophammer; and in a gesture of goodwill Poophammer should return the item for a refund of his money.If Poophammer retrieves a suitable portion of that item, i think it would be seen kindly by most of us, but i will not apologize for something i still believe i was acting correctly.
That topic popping out a month after the incident sure is suspicious. Sounds like personal vendetta again, just like Nuffen's case.nope, no vendeta just got to know about it a lot later.
...my bad, that i did hear about that only one month afterwards and that it did get me upset enough to bring it to everyonce attention.
My bad, I did not expect something about a month ago to come up like that when I was out for the day (was not asleep)
Franky messaged me on steam saying hey, you bought his nodachi for 100k. Yeah he was dumb and should have asked us first, and he seemed happy he sold it for 100k fast, but he did not know it was underpriced.Well Franky for once has no idear that you two are that close. If he knew you were friends he would perhaps have expected you to either give the item back immediatly or a compensation. I myself would expect admins to give warnings about heavily underprized items so that anyone would be able to correct that, even tell them for how much they could actually sell those items. After all it could have been either a honest mistake or just a player who didn't know, who made his first attempt in the market.
That is when I told him I had already sold it, and he told me no worries, it was his mistake
Now if he had asked me to do something to repay him, I would have. I have been friends with Franky for a while. I respect him, and if he wanted me to do something like that for a friend then god damn it, I would have.
...I don't think he actually gave you that impression, if so there must have been a large communicational gab on steam between you too(which can happen because of the language barrier).
If Franky would have not given me some false sense of "yeah, its okay it was his mistake no hard feelings", then yeah I would have done right.
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No admins do, or ever will fit that description. Perhaps we should remove them all and let the rule breakers run the servers.
Myself was often on NA servers when i started playing and lately i am more often on NA servers again, through strategus, i dont play at all anymore that much crpg though. The EU community didnt remove his admin, Shik did and for the reasons why Shik decided that way you need to speak to Shik.
Actually being an admins means saying "Goodbye!" to your personal toon development. Expect being killed "afk" while administrating the server, spending a lot of time in spectator mode to observe troublemakers, abandon any slightest form of "glitching" (haystacks, unaccessable roofs, etc.) and, as we learned these days, letting opportunities for good but unfair deals pass by.
According to Shik who literally runs the show, both. It is that simple.
For the record, I do agree with that.
Only absolutely good guys, so to say "living saints" should be allowed to be admins. Whoever doesn't fit this description is to be removed from that position. Period.The ignorance on you two is astonishing! How can you be so foolish? To expect a person to be a living saint? A perfect human being? Those people only live in books, you should know better. Especially you Tears.
POOP wasn't even warned. He had no fair 'trial'. In fact, the 'crime' he committed wasn't even reported in a sensible time period. This is all a load of unjustified crap if you ask me personally.
That is essentially saying that admins cannot be players AT ALL. I hate to inform you, but people apply for admin to help the servers run smoothly. In-game they do get a lot of crap and do miss out on a lot of opportunities other players have. But buying an under-priced item has nothing to do with it. If Poophammer didn't do so, someone else would.
The ignorance on you two is astonishing! How can you be so foolish? To expect a person to be a living saint? A perfect human being? Those people only live in books, you should know better. Especially you Tears.
POOP wasn't even warned. He had no fair 'trial'. In fact, the 'crime' he committed wasn't even reported in a sensible time period. This is all a load of unjustified crap if you ask me personally.
If an admin robs a player this way, all the other players get the impression it's totally okay to destroy hours of playing of other players by buying their things under price, just because they don't know better. And doing so totally forgetting that it's the other players who make you have someone to play with when you connect to the servers!
Taking advantage of someones ignorance is the American way dammit!
Then the American way is crap. :evil:
Nevertheless POOP is American!
Give the man back his admin.
So Kinngrim, basically what you're saying is: I can never be 100% objective. I agree. But you can at least try.
The ignorance on you two is astonishing! How can you be so foolish? To expect a person to be a living saint? A perfect human being? Those people only live in books, you should know better. Especially you Tears.
POOP wasn't even warned. He had no fair 'trial'. In fact, the 'crime' he committed wasn't even reported in a sensible time period. This is all a load of unjustified crap if you ask me personally.
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she sed "bbz will u luv me 4evr"
he said "NO..""
da gurl cryed N ran across da rode b4 da green man came on the sine.
boy was cryin and went to pic up her body.
she was ded.
he whispered 2 her corpse "I ment 2 sey i will luv u FIVE-ever..." (dat mean he luv her moar den 4evr)
xxx~*...like dis if u cry evry time...~*xxx
A gurl was walkin2 skewl wit her bf n they were crossin da rode.
she sed "bbz will u luv me 4evr"
he said "NO..""
da gurl cryed N ran across da rode b4 da green man came on the sine.
boy was cryin and went to pic up her body.
she was ded.
he whispered 2 her corpse "I ment 2 sey i will luv u FIVE-ever..." (dat mean he luv her moar den 4evr)
xxx~*...like dis if u cry evry time...~*xxx
The ignorance on you two is astonishing! How can you be so foolish? To expect a person to be a living saint? A perfect human being? Those people only live in books, you should know better. Especially you Tears..
I was expecting the "living saint" to be a deliberate exageration. Shik does expect admins to not just admin the servers in game fairly, but also be good examples out of game. Emphasis on "good." This is what I agree with, that it should not be just 100% how you act in game, but also how you represent the community.
Admins have the same right as any player. Simply because he's a fast market player, doesn't mean he should be punished for it.exactly.
Give him his admin back. Anybody who says they wouldn't accept that trade is a liar.
a) Admin
An admins job is to... damn imagine that! Administer.
So he oversees the servers checking if anyone is breaking the rules as given and as written and punishes those found guilty.
Thats what an admin is supposed to do in an online community.
All those "shinny pillars of the community" are for childrens stories.
Taking advantage of someones ignorance is the American way dammit!
I think the devs taught the wrong life lesson here.
Eh, so you didn't scold the 12 year old for scamming his own brother for his personal benefit? What's the life lesson in that? Being a manipulative douchebag pays, even if its your own family?
I didn't know being selfish would disqualify you from being an admin (Tears licking shik's ass to have a better position and more power in this community???)
No offense tear but i think you rely too much on Shik to express yourself.
I wouldnt.Get off your high horse.
If it was on for 700k, I would accept, because that is really cheap but no real ripoff like 100k is.
If i´d happen to see such a mistake, I would maybe accept it and then contact the owner about it so he can retreive the item if he wants to afer I explained to him that it is worth ten times as much as he put it up for.
Well anyway,I think, Poop might have learned something from this now, so give the man his admin back.
Get off your high horse.
Grow a backbone.Looks like cRPG is full of good samaritans!
Some people (like B3rs3rk or me) just have higher moral standards... or moral standards at all...
Looks like cRPG is full of good samaritans!
Looks like cRPG is full of good samaritans!
reading this thread I came to quite the opposite opinion. most players seem to be self obsessed arseholes, without the ability to understand that only though positive action can things improve.
Read: Templars
I will never forget the first strat battle between Templars and Mercs where Growl said something along the lines of, "We are the best clan in this game, we're not going to lose to a bunch of idiots."
Alas, we did lose. Then I left Templars, you guys were more fun before strat.
You were a Templar also?
I have been many things I'm afraid.... ;)
I have been many things I'm afraid.
Another thing I just remembered while sitting on the toilet ( :mrgreen: ). Your brother is part of your family, you don't "rob" him. Other cRPG players are part of your community, you don't rob them either.
In such big communities like WoW or anything else where you can trade items I wouldn't care so much about persons outside your clan/guild/whatever, but in cRPG with about 3000 players things look different...
Poophammer lost his admin but. Atleast he didn't lose his profits from this deal and his principles.aye it's kinda a win-win situation for poop.
Poophammer 1 vs Mob 0
Poophammer wins again!
What would you do if you heared that the babysitter you allowed to take your boy to the mall to spend the money you gave him talked the child into buying her some make-up or condoms or high heels or whatever bitches need?
Here's a story for all of you.
My 9 year old and 12 year old boys went to a department store with their mother. The 12 year old talked his younger brother into spending his allowance on a toy that the older brother wanted but that the younger boy was not that interested in. When they got home, the 9 year old got buyer's remorse. He began to wail, "I want my bucks (dollars to you EU types) back, I want my bucks back". I decided not to return the toy for a refund. I thought it was a good teaching opportunity. Eventually he stopped crying and went on with his life, sadder BUT a little wiser.
I did not scold the 12 year old for talking his brother into the purchase. I did explain to the 9 year old that some deals are final. I told him that he must always think for himself and never blame others for bad decisions that he made.
I think the devs taught the wrong life lesson here.
You are horrible.That Child was 9 Years old, not 14.don't know about that.
a 9 Year Old cant decide whats good for him, and he is very easy to talk into something.What do you think why Pedos mostly get Children around the age of 10?They are weak, and they easy fall to suggestions.
You didnt teach him a worthy lesson, you just taught him that it is ok to talk others into shit.
Congratulations!Your Child will be working in a Bank in the future!Or he might slang rocks.Depends.
And that right there is why you are a pretentious little samaritan.
I at least admit I am a cynical bastard that believes in equal opportunities while not holding someones hands.
But its fun to see the sexist in you ruin your credibility as the "nice guy that gets it unlike the rest of these animals that dont see right from wrong..."
They might be smart for their age, but still they are 9.They are easy to trick, and they will still be easy to trick.At that age, they are really easy led, especially by olders(in that case even his Brother).The next time, he will still buy the Thing his Brother wanted if his Brother is smart enough to outtalk him(Which shouldnt be that hard regarding he is 3 years older).I agree. Could be.. could be.
And that right there is why you are a pretentious little samaritan.
I at least admit I am a cynical bastard that believes in equal opportunities while not holding someones hands.
But its fun to see the sexist in you ruin your credibility as the "nice guy that gets it unlike the rest of these animals that dont see right from wrong..."
That's where you guys are wrong. The brother did not rob anyone. He talked him into something. That happens between brothers.
Stop being so prissy and holier than thou. It's time you learned that there is no daddy and mommy to watch over you. You must take that responsibility yourself.
But in this case we DO have some kind of mommy and daddy watching over us. It's the staff of the game. A nice feeling to know that someone is caring of you.Wrong, admins aren't here to babysit the population. They are people who monitor the players and teach them the rules by punishing them if they break them. A phenomenon called coercive power, the power to distribute punishments.
Wrong, admins aren't here to babysit the population. They are people who monitor the players and teach them the rules by punishing them if they break them. A phenomenon called coercive power, the power to distribute punishments.
If you look at this case, POOP actually helped the person in question by punishing him for his foolishness, and afterwards offering a repayment, but they didn't find it necessary. Now suddenly they do.
Man, someone make this guy a badmin^, he clearly has the "balls, backbone, and morals" needed for the prestigious position of badmin.
Not to mention he can write everybody to the ground trying to denounce him.
Joker is fat and ugly
I am not fat :cry:but ugly?
but ugly?
I don't think so, but my girlfriend insits on me wearing a paper bag while having sex... so I don't know...
maybe she just has a thing for paperbags, dont get down :mrgreen:
Not to mention he can write everybody to the ground trying to denounce him.If posting a single-minded view in a wall of text is writing 'everybody to the ground'. Than yes, that is a quality.
If posting a single-minded view in a wall of text is writing 'everybody to the ground'. Than yes, that is a quality.
In theory, there is no 'best' or 'perfect' admin, different situations call for different roles and positions. Also called the contingency approach, this means that even c-rpg needs people that show that foolish behaviour does not go unpunished. While it also needs people who show others the respects they deserve for playing this mod, something even the devs sometimes forget.