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cRPG => General Discussion => Topic started by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 08:49:59 pm

Title: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 08:49:59 pm
Hi.  You may have seen me in game (Penitent_Turtler).  Shielder is the most underrated play style in this game I think.  Some people say "oh, shield is for newbs."  Or "No, you have to be really skilled to use shield well."

I think both those statements are true, meaning that shields are good for everyone! 

Negate archers.  Hold the line.  Enlist in the local shield corps today.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 08:52:03 pm
Keep on rocking!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Oberyn on September 27, 2011, 08:56:41 pm
Comments on 1H shield style I've seen are usually along the lines of easy to start with, hard to master.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Bowl_of_Cereal on September 27, 2011, 08:59:36 pm
Some dude told me one time that everyone should have a shield.

I'm a two hander and I don't know how many times that bit of wood has saved me.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 09:03:17 pm
Some dude told me one time that everyone should have a shield.

I second this!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 09:03:45 pm
I noticed that most of the top two handers and polearm users in my neck of the woods have a few points in shield. Very worthwhile, especially since I am not the only archer who head hunts priority targets.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: MrShine on September 27, 2011, 09:05:45 pm
You don't need to be a turtle as a shielder.

But yes I love me mah shield <3
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on September 27, 2011, 09:26:58 pm
Comments on 1H shield style I've seen are usually along the lines of easy to start with, hard to master.

yeah, takes about 30 minutes.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 09:29:59 pm
yeah, takes about 30 minutes.

So go grab a shield then and get scores like Fallen_Cyber or Balbaroth. Should only take you fourty minutes.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on September 27, 2011, 09:35:56 pm
So go grab a shield then and get scores like Fallen_Cyber or Balbaroth. Should only take you fourty minutes.

whut kind of scores do they get
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 09:38:29 pm
whut kind of scores do they get

Easy shit. Balb gets stuff like 27-2 regularly for example and with a requirement 3 shield to boot. Any nub can do that.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 09:39:25 pm
yeah, takes about 30 minutes.

Took me about 2 gens, but I feel confident now.  Not saying I'm a master, but I feel fit to take on and have a good chance of coming out on top of a 2v1 scenario.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Laufknoten on September 27, 2011, 09:43:35 pm
You don't need to be a turtle as a shielder.
That's right. Actually a turtle (is an animal) is someone who uses atleast 2 shields.


yeah, takes about 30 minutes.
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on September 27, 2011, 09:44:14 pm
Easy shit. Balb gets stuff like 27-2 regularly for example and with a requirement 3 shield to boot. Any nub can do that.

He gets kills with his shield? Haxor.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on September 27, 2011, 09:47:04 pm
requirement 3 shield to boot.

That doesn't really say anything, though. There are some really good req 3 shields.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on September 27, 2011, 09:53:32 pm
That doesn't really say anything, though. There are some really good req 3 shields.

I think it is saying something, because the best tier 3 shields are worse than the tier 4 ones....so he's not using as good of a shield that most shielders have access to.  It implies he could perhaps do even better.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 27, 2011, 09:54:07 pm
That doesn't really say anything, though. There are some really good req 3 shields.

It was sarcastic. I should have left a /sarcasm tag at the end sorry.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: RandomDude on September 27, 2011, 09:56:09 pm
Some dude told me one time that everyone should have a shield.

I'm a two hander and I don't know how many times that bit of wood has saved me.

yeah if flamberge was sheathable id have 2 pts in shield skill and carry a board shield still
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Brrrak on September 28, 2011, 01:14:32 am
He gets kills with his shield? Haxor.

 :lol:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on September 28, 2011, 01:32:51 am
pfff balb isnt skilled... we all know his elite scimi is a sentient epic rare that kills people of its own accord independent of balbs input commands.

p.s. Turtle Power!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Leshma on September 28, 2011, 02:02:37 am
yeah if flamberge was sheathable id have 2 pts in shield skill and carry a board shield still

One shield skill is enough. Old heater shield looks better than board shield.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: balbaroth on September 28, 2011, 02:21:00 am
i love my browny mw heater shield ,  you cant go wrong with 99 speed on shield :D tho 4 hits of an axe break it :(

 
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on September 28, 2011, 02:25:15 am
Cause I'm a turtleman and I'm OK,
I sleep all night and I fight all day!

*you guys finish it*
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on September 28, 2011, 09:28:43 pm
I put on women's clothing
and hang around in baaars!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Toffey on September 29, 2011, 04:25:25 am
The lack of shields was probably the most surprising thing I noticed when I switched from Native to cRPG.

Anyways, Go turtles!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Braeden on September 29, 2011, 04:41:17 am
yeah if flamberge was sheathable id have 2 pts in shield skill and carry a board shield still

For me, its longsword and crossbow or longsword and board shield when there are archers on the server.

Never underestimate the 1 shield skill board shield.  Thats 200 body.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: dreadnok on September 29, 2011, 05:45:42 am
i love my browny mw heater shield ,  you cant go wrong with 99 speed on shield :D tho 4 hits of an axe break it :(

i still your one of the best regardless of that balby,


                                                                                                             sincerely,
                                                                                                                            dreadnok
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Stabby_Dave on September 29, 2011, 11:24:28 am
From  my experience in NA, the best shielder in the game is Cyranule. As good with shield as phyrex is 2h. Would like to see them duel if there was a neutral server in the middle of the atlantic for them to use.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: v/onMega on September 29, 2011, 11:35:28 am
The simple fact that crushthrough weapons got limited to a max. extend is the first and strongest arguement for using a shielder...
Having a good sword + hammer is expensive....

Take a careful look on the battlefield, if u are playing long enough.....u see the difference is huge.

But....I can assure everybody....soon, there will be a time i ll be working on rising the amount of whiny shielders again.....

And the crushthroughsounds will be like angelic voices....telling me that brutality rightfully overcomes skill... :-)

Ehhhm yeah.... XD
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rustyspoon on September 29, 2011, 12:39:22 pm
The simple fact that crushthrough weapons got limited to a max. extend is the first and strongest arguement for using a shielder...
Having a good sword + hammer is expensive....

Take a careful look on the battlefield, if u are playing long enough.....u see the difference is huge.

But....I can assure everybody....soon, there will be a time i ll be working on rising the amount of whiny shielders again.....

And the crushthroughsounds will be like angelic voices....telling me that brutality rightfully overcomes skill... :-)

Ehhhm yeah.... XD

Crushthrough is still alive and well...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Mihilist on September 29, 2011, 02:10:18 pm
Crushthrough is still alive and well...

Only thing more fun than busting a shield is completely negating it.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: PikeDan on September 30, 2011, 09:52:41 am
Shielders are bro-like. Except when you're fighting that one dude with a MW shield that seems to just never. fucking. break. when you're swinging at it with a Great Long Bardiche. I hate those fuckers.

In all seriousness though. Shielder is fun to play as, tank for your team, deny movement, gain kills and assists. Only thing I like more is Polearms, and I can technically be a shielder, if I wanted to.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Vicious666 on September 30, 2011, 01:30:48 pm
yeah, takes about 30 minutes.

so why i can defeat you 100:0  1h vs 1h ?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on September 30, 2011, 01:34:46 pm
so why i can defeat you 100:0  1h vs 1h ?

Vicious, hate to break it to you bro, but you can't beat anyone.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Vicious666 on September 30, 2011, 01:46:15 pm
Vicious, hate to break it to you bro, but you can't beat anyone.

last time you duelled vs me you losed 9 time in a raw than quit server, not my fault you where only good to make lolstab lolstab lolstab , pretty much anyone that where encountering you with lower parry where going to kill you
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on September 30, 2011, 01:55:43 pm
I'm starting to think Noc's post about the reality and Vicious' own alternate reality was spot on..
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Vicious666 on September 30, 2011, 02:11:04 pm
I'm starting to think Noc's post about the reality and Vicious' own alternate reality was spot on..
too bad my realty is your nightmare
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on September 30, 2011, 02:43:43 pm
 :lol:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: ManOfWar on September 30, 2011, 06:28:26 pm
Master 1h are few and far between on the NA servers.

I do not know what the situation on EU


I mean I manage to top the boards almost constantly with my non heirloomed Nordic War Sword

Rarely see Balb these days though
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 06:30:19 pm
EU has a few as well, my obvious favorite being Fallen_Cyber.

I do miss Balb though.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Braeden on September 30, 2011, 06:35:40 pm
EU has a few as well, my obvious favorite being Fallen_Cyber.

I do miss Balb though.

He haunts the less populated NA servers with some regularity, or at least he has this week.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on September 30, 2011, 09:25:34 pm
He haunts the less populated NA servers with some regularity, or at least he has this week.

im avoiding high pop servers with banner balance like a plague , i play on low pop servers where i have more of a impact in the game and banner balance is less of a nuisance , if you want to see me ToD come to Haven server or siege or low pop EU servers  :D

 All thoses High populations servers can kiss my arse!  :mrgreen:

as a side note , in EU people whine about Elite Spammy way more than in NA  lol ( just an observation ) 
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 09:28:25 pm
I may stop by with one of my melees then on the haven server.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on September 30, 2011, 09:40:32 pm
I may stop by with one of my melees then on the haven server.

sound good , hope to see you there !  haven server is probably one of the best server ive played in , people says its full of trolls , i would think otherwise , its a good bunch of jolly people playing original warband maps (kickass) 
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rustyspoon on September 30, 2011, 10:01:59 pm
sound good , hope to see you there !  haven server is probably one of the best server ive played in , people says its full of trolls , i would think otherwise , its a good bunch of jolly people playing original warband maps (kickass)

Haven server is a lot of fun. That's where I usually play nowadays. Their dueling system also makes it super-keen awesome.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on September 30, 2011, 10:03:11 pm
Haven server is a lot of fun. That's where I usually play nowadays. Their dueling system also makes it super-keen awesome.

tho people abooze of it not engaging in melee or feintin to go into battle , then when they are alone they shout duel   LAME!

help you gdamn team you muthafuckers ! 
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 10:06:09 pm
Eh... Dueling system? Now I am suspicious.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on September 30, 2011, 10:07:49 pm
Eh... Dueling system? Now I am suspicious.
basicaly if there is 5 or less remaining on the other side and your alone  you can shout : DUEL !   and people are forced to duel you
(before it was duel unless someone refused) 

 i shout Duals or truels  :D
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 30, 2011, 10:08:41 pm
Ohhhhhhh! That I am ok with! Thank you for the clarification.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 30, 2011, 10:22:42 pm
Everyone should have a shield indeed, 3 points to spare isnt alot. This would make the archer / xbow whine vanish :))
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Player_01 on September 30, 2011, 10:24:51 pm
So YOU'RE Penitent_Turtler! I've been seeing you a lot on NA_2, whenever I see you on it makes me hop off my main and play my turtle. (Roseash)
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Rhygar666 on September 30, 2011, 10:26:37 pm
acutally playing a shielder is pretty easy if you dont rush at the start of the round like me er i mean like an idiot
(ok you should actually play a bit, get to the timing right and an eye for your weapon reach :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 01, 2011, 12:09:19 am
From  my experience in NA, the best shielder in the game is Cyranule. As good with shield as phyrex is 2h. Would like to see them duel if there was a neutral server in the middle of the atlantic for them to use.

pfff. cyranule is definetly one of the best players in NA (and prolly cRPG as a whole) whether he is 2h or 1h without a shield... but he is better without a shield, so i object to him being called one of the best shielders!  :)
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rustyspoon on October 01, 2011, 12:25:09 am
pfff. cyranule is definetly one of the best players in NA (and prolly cRPG as a whole) whether he is 2h or 1h without a shield... but he is better without a shield, so i object to him being called one of the best shielders!  :)

^ This. He's really good but definitely not the best shielder. Man O War or Balb come to my mind.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 12:28:17 am
I agree with that. Everytime I have beaten cyranule in melee he was using board and sword due to him making a few rare mistakes in a row (only have killed him three times) I have never managed to get him to make more then one mistake when just using his two hander. Cyranule would certainly be in the top five shielders though.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on October 01, 2011, 12:40:30 am
So YOU'RE Penitent_Turtler! I've been seeing you a lot on NA_2, whenever I see you on it makes me hop off my main and play my turtle. (Roseash)


[Q,F,W] SHIELD WALL!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Panoply on October 01, 2011, 02:07:07 am
I carry a shield on my 2h main just to catch arrows, and it's very useful. I have 2 shield skill because 2 shields are much better looking than 1 shields. It's also great to have for strategus, and for participating in shieldwalls.

I've been noticing an increase in the number of shielders on the NA 1. I think it's because the map rotation favours open maps, so there's not as much cover and having a shield is very helpful.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Erathsmus on October 01, 2011, 02:23:33 am
Hmmmm....

Shields, when I used to run w/clan members we would all get huscarls and if there were 3+ of us, it would be an easy win for our team.

Shield are VERY effective in all matches, due to how strategically important they are to preventing archer fire, and blocking points.

As for them being hard to master, I completely disagree. I've played basically every class for around 100 hours, except I mostly use polearm/2hander (the exception is xbow...I hate them so much). With a shield the game literally feels like easy mode. The upper and upper left swing is difficult for enemies to see because of your shield  and shoulder movement, archers are allergic to shields, and the only thing that can hurt you is a horse (unless you are a support polearm/shielder) or if Zues could use throwing weapons. Personally I believe we should bring back the iron mace and the studded warclub back into the category of crushthrough, due to how many players are using the shield in NA_Siege.

But still, kudos to shielders for helping the team win.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 02:32:10 am
So go grab a shield then and get scores like Fallen_Cyber or Balbaroth. Should only take you fourty minutes.

- did devs caught cyber cheating?
- is balbaroth that guy with LAN-like ping?

oh... autoblock and LAN ping really take AGES to master.


talking about shielders, there really some i'm everytime afraid to engage. LoR of the greys, Dalhi, Rhaegar, many STR shielders, just to name some... they have a really thousand hours on 1h/shield plus really aggressive gameplay. i really back off and think 3 times before heading to them.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 01, 2011, 02:46:51 am
- did devs caught cyber cheating?
- is balbaroth that guy with LAN-like ping?

oh... autoblock and LAN ping really take AGES to master.


talking about shielders, there really some i'm everytime afraid to engage. LoR of the greys, Dalhi, Rhaegar, many STR shielders, just to name some... they have a really thousand hours on 1h/shield plus really aggressive gameplay. i really back off and think 3 times before heading to them.
You are thinking about CAMELS_Cyber not FALLEN_Cyber. Two different persons.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 02:56:09 am
You are thinking about CAMELS_Cyber not FALLEN_Cyber. Two different persons.

In addition, Balb still kicks ass even with normal ping.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 01, 2011, 03:09:59 am
In addition, Balb still kicks ass even with normal ping.
The hell you quoting ME for? Go quote the right person! Rawr! Imma gonna eat ya!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 03:12:52 am
The hell you quoting ME for? Go quote the right person! Rawr! Imma gonna eat ya!

It is quicker to quote you then type "I agree with this guy" or type everything you typed.

You are just that awesome.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 01, 2011, 03:47:35 am
It is quicker to quote you then type "I agree with this guy" or type everything you typed.

You are just that awesome.
but. You were talking to the guy I quoted and my quotes wont show up in your quotes because the quotception is a lie in the matrix!

I'm tired. Gonna eat some cake and go to bed. OMG EAT IS TEA BACKWARDS! rawr, I'm a viking.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Erathsmus on October 01, 2011, 03:51:26 am
HEY! You guys steamrolled my post D:>
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Malaclypse on October 01, 2011, 05:10:00 am
Steamrollllllll. Retired out of the ranged game at level 32 to go full on shield/1hand. I was getting incredibly sick of shooting at people/getting shot at, and there were already so many people playing that way. I'd hate to see cRPG get as bad as Native it terms of the sheer amount of people playing a ranged class, and the transition in a high range environment to something which can partially negate ranged attacks feels natural enough. I feel keeping what classes we play as a collective in some kind of relative balance is a good idea.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 08:41:15 am
You are thinking about CAMELS_Cyber not FALLEN_Cyber. Two different persons.

i'm pretty sure i saw someone arguing about fallen_cyber in a autoblock related thread. plus is a lot of time i don't see him playing so... would be good if he could just say i'm wrong.

In addition, Balb still kicks ass even with normal ping.

yeah whatever... i saw him in a eu server with normal ping (80-100 if i'm not wrong...). nothing special... average to good shielder... but far from the pro shielders i listed.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 08:42:44 am
Balb gets 80 to 100 ping in EU!?

What kind of witchcraft is this, that rotten lowlife how does he do it?!

Ugh...

He must live on a boat...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Cyber on October 01, 2011, 11:13:20 am
i'm pretty sure i saw someone arguing about fallen_cyber in a autoblock related thread. plus is a lot of time i don't see him playing so... would be good if he could just say i'm wrong.

You are wrong, i think some more ppl were initially confused aswell since most ppl probably know me by Cyber so my name popped up a few times. Also haven't played that much for a while either. Didn't play at all for a month, got a little bored of cRPG but i still occasionally show up.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 11:29:04 am
You are wrong, i think some more ppl were initially confused aswell since most ppl probably know me by Cyber so my name popped up a few times. Also haven't played that much for a while either. Didn't play at all for a month, got a little bored of cRPG but i still occasionally show up.

oh i'm glad you're good and you blocking skill is real... damn 1h cleaver 2hitter  :P
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 01, 2011, 11:31:51 am
using autoblock as a shielder would be kind of pointless no?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: SchokoSchaf on October 01, 2011, 11:35:12 am
using autoblock as a shielder would be kind of pointless no?
nah, makes you hit & block at the same time
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 12:42:26 pm
using autoblock as a shielder would be kind of pointless no?

no because you can use a weaker shield (knightly heather) and block all the shit when it breaks.
also cyber of fallens is one of the best manual blockers out there... should be pointless only because he's a shielder?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 01, 2011, 12:44:54 pm
Yes, it pretty much is pointless. And I know Cyber.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 01:06:22 pm
Yes, it pretty much is pointless. And I know Cyber.

wow how wise... all the best crossbowmen out there also have awesome fighting skills... but following your mentality, melee skill (footwork, blocking, attacking) on a xbowman is pointless.

oh well weird thing is that all the pro shielders knows how to manual block...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 01, 2011, 01:14:41 pm
... Oooookay?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 01, 2011, 05:48:34 pm
I'm confused...

Part of the reason why some shielders are the best is because even if their shields breaks they can still fight properly.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on October 01, 2011, 06:03:40 pm
Hmm the greatest thing about shields? Moving in front of one of your teams horseman when they get sprawled, or your reloading xbowman when they are exposed and having a bolt or arrow thunk into your shield half a second later.

Those moments are always priceless.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 06:07:27 pm
I'm confused...

Part of the reason why some shielders are the best is because even if their shields breaks they can still fight properly.

that's what i'm trying to explain to xant... but we need some captions for that.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 01, 2011, 06:25:26 pm
^ This. He's really good but definitely not the best shielder. Man O War or Balb come to my mind.

but mano is exactly the same kind of shielder than cy... actually i think cy is scarier with a shield than mano is with a shield... but both are scarier without shields.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on October 01, 2011, 07:10:56 pm
yeah whatever... i saw him in a eu server with normal ping (80-100 if i'm not wrong...). nothing special... average to good shielder... but far from the pro shielders i listed.

actually when i played in EU vs you i had 100-120 ping , and you could only kill me with your friends around and you mauling me :p

Some people are so cocky :D


 
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 07:25:45 pm
actually when i played in EU vs you i had 100-120 ping , and you could only kill me with your friends around and you mauling me :p

Some people are so cocky :D

uhm its ages i don't maul... i'm using morningstar 24/7. you're wrong. all because i said you're average toward good but not BEST? wtf overwhelming ego...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rustyspoon on October 01, 2011, 07:31:49 pm
It's okay everybody! You see, if anyone from EU actually admitted that people in NA have skills Europe would sink beneath the ocean. So you see, they have to deny it.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 01, 2011, 08:24:05 pm
It's okay everybody! You see, if anyone from EU actually admitted that people in NA have skills Europe would sink beneath the ocean. So you see, they have to deny it.

so "average to good" skill level is an offense? wtf?!? i consider myself an average 2hander... you yankees should really stop pumping the children's ego with bullshit... now i said balbaroth is average to good and he took it as an offense trying to show off some e-peen babbling some "blah blah you can only gank me with a maul..."

you're all but humble men...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 01, 2011, 08:26:11 pm
I'm confused...

Part of the reason why some shielders are the best is because even if their shields breaks they can still fight properly.

Liar, no shielder can manual block, it's a proven factual statement from the cRPG guide you get when you first download the mod.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 01, 2011, 08:39:27 pm
Liar, no shielder can manual block, it's a proven factual statement from the cRPG guide you get when you first download the mod.

Siiem, what does the chicken say?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Player_01 on October 01, 2011, 08:46:02 pm

[Q,F,W] SHIELD WALL!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!

Edit: [Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag!
[Q,D,F] Defend the [F]lag! x5
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Gristle on October 01, 2011, 11:35:05 pm
Steamrollllllll. Retired out of the ranged game at level 32 to go full on shield/1hand. I was getting incredibly sick of shooting at people/getting shot at, and there were already so many people playing that way. I'd hate to see cRPG get as bad as Native it terms of the sheer amount of people playing a ranged class, and the transition in a high range environment to something which can partially negate ranged attacks feels natural enough. I feel keeping what classes we play as a collective in some kind of relative balance is a good idea.

I tried to do this, but I just couldn't drop the crossbow. Too many horses and archers that I wished I could shoot down. I'll be lucky to get over 110wpf though.


so "average to good" skill level is an offense? wtf?!? i consider myself an average 2hander... you yankees should really stop pumping the children's ego with bullshit... now i said balbaroth is average to good and he took it as an offense trying to show off some e-peen babbling some "blah blah you can only gank me with a maul..."

you're all but humble men...

Maybe if you didn't add "yeah whatever, nothing special," you wouldn't seem so insulting?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 02, 2011, 12:15:44 am
Maybe if you didn't add "yeah whatever, nothing special," you wouldn't seem so insulting?

nothing special means nothing special... doesn't seems an offense to me. if someone impress me with his skill i say it. if someone doesn't why i have to say the opposite?

oh ffs let's give all the "best player medal" and settle this... seems people care more what other people thinks about em than just enjoy the game.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 02:17:24 am
nothing special means nothing special... doesn't seems an offense to me. if someone impress me with his skill i say it. if someone doesn't why i have to say the opposite?

oh ffs let's give all the "best player medal" and settle this... seems people care more what other people thinks about em than just enjoy the game.
OMG he doesn't think I'm the bestestest of the bestest and the GOD of this game! He is insulting me and my honour! Waah, waaah, waah!

Also this is the most lulzy discussion ever since nobody has mentioned Daergar. That man is a fucking boss battle!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 02, 2011, 03:09:02 am
OMG he doesn't think I'm the bestestest of the bestest and the GOD of this game! He is insulting me and my honour! Waah, waaah, waah!

Also this is the most lulzy discussion ever since nobody has mentioned Daergar. That man is a fucking boss battle!

yeah i forgot him.. but his 15/24 build is too much squishy for a final boss :D
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: MrShine on October 02, 2011, 04:13:35 am
nothing special means nothing special... doesn't seems an offense to me. if someone impress me with his skill i say it. if someone doesn't why i have to say the opposite?

oh ffs let's give all the "best player medal" and settle this... seems people care more what other people thinks about em than just enjoy the game.

You can feel whatever you feel, but just letting you know calling Balb "nothing special" just makes you look foolish to the NA community.   I can't change your snap impression, but it tells me that you didn't spend enough time watching him.

He is probably in top 5 NA shielders (I would put him at #3) and I'm sure he would be right up there with the best EU shielders without ping differences.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 02, 2011, 04:15:58 am
im bestest shielder kthnx.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Socrates on October 02, 2011, 04:22:25 am
call me weird but i love playing as a shielder just more satisfying chopping an archer and holding a 1h and shield than using a 2hander or polearm. i can manual block fine so it's not like i'm biased and i myself do enjoy 2h.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2011, 09:11:12 am
im bestest shielder kthnx.

You would be if you only had a MW KAS.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 02, 2011, 12:01:02 pm
You can feel whatever you feel, but just letting you know calling Balb "nothing special" just makes you look foolish to the NA community.   I can't change your snap impression, but it tells me that you didn't spend enough time watching him.

He is probably in top 5 NA shielders (I would put him at #3) and I'm sure he would be right up there with the best EU shielders without ping differences.

oh my apologies... i think you need to replace the liberty statue with a balbaroth statue then... would be surely deserved.

about NA community... i thought there was a cRPG community... if you say NA and EU have different communities, we just need to split the forums. as we EU noobs have nothing to do with you NA elite.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 12:59:06 pm
yeah i forgot him.. but his 15/24 build is too much squishy for a final boss :D
Actually he is 21/15. He was only 15/24 for like 3 hours or something. Although he still manage to seem that fast. And when he takes on his loomed armour and MW Arabian. He's just invincible. Although, even when he goes with non-loomed armour he's still a fucking boss battle. But the worst part is not just fighting him alone. It's fighting him when he has a teammate with him. I don't care if there are any shielders that are slightly better than him (but I doubt it) but he is by FAR the best teamplayer in cRPG. And THAT is the most important title I would say.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 02, 2011, 01:44:06 pm
Actually he is 21/15. He was only 15/24 for like 3 hours or something. Although he still manage to seem that fast. And when he takes on his loomed armour and MW Arabian. He's just invincible. Although, even when he goes with non-loomed armour he's still a fucking boss battle. But the worst part is not just fighting him alone. It's fighting him when he has a teammate with him. I don't care if there are any shielders that are slightly better than him (but I doubt it) but he is by FAR the best teamplayer in cRPG. And THAT is the most important title I would say.

well i dunno. yes is really a good shielder indeed but the huscarl shatter with 2-3 hits and he haven't enough HP/armor to stand 2 41p 9PS morningstar hits to the face  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 01:53:36 pm
well i dunno. yes is really a good shielder indeed but the huscarl shatter with 2-3 hits and he haven't enough HP/armor to stand 2 41p 9PS morningstar hits to the face  :mrgreen:
That's what you believe. But the thing with Daergar is. Even when you break the shield, you wont get through AND he can 2 hit you, 3 hit if your lucky/in plate (he 2 hit me in black plate WITHOUT hitting the head!) AND his armour and knowledge of the speed bonuses makes you not able to 2 hit him unless you are REALLY good/lucky.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Laufknoten on October 02, 2011, 02:24:09 pm
That's what you believe. But the thing with Daergar is. Even when you break the shield, you wont get through AND he can 2 hit you, 3 hit if your lucky/in plate (he 2 hit me in black plate WITHOUT hitting the head!) AND his armour and knowledge of the speed bonuses makes you not able to 2 hit him unless you are REALLY good/lucky.
Wasn't Daergar the guy playing tank on EU1 with plated charger, gothic plate and arabian cav sword some months ago? He was just bumping and slashing through the whole enemy army and took like 100 hits and arrows every round.  :lol: If he was that guy, please tell him he should do that again.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 02:56:39 pm
Wasn't Daergar the guy playing tank on EU1 with plated charger, gothic plate and arabian cav sword some months ago? He was just bumping and slashing through the whole enemy army and took like 100 hits and arrows every round.  :lol: If he was that guy, please tell him he should do that again.  :mrgreen:
He was. He that was also a loomed gothic which he traded for himself btw. He sold it now (he earned 1.5 mill on the trade AND got another 3x armour). He really knows how to play as a shielder. He's the only player I've seen that have charged 15 enemies alone and come out of it, not just alive, but with full health. He's just sick. He's also a very good trader, making loads of money from the marketplace.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 02, 2011, 04:04:42 pm
He was. He that was also a loomed gothic which he traded for himself btw. He sold it now (he earned 1.5 mill on the trade AND got another 3x armour). He really knows how to play as a shielder. He's the only player I've seen that have charged 15 enemies alone and come out of it, not just alive, but with full health. He's just sick. He's also a very good trader, making loads of money from the marketplace.

You need some of this bro.
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Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: MrShine on October 02, 2011, 04:37:45 pm
Sounds to me if anyone needs to make a statue of anyone, it's you guys making one of this Daergar fellow  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Mihilist on October 02, 2011, 06:08:35 pm
Grok is better than Balb from my play experience -- they've both been on NA siege together recently as well.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2011, 06:19:36 pm
Dude, not only is Daergar an awesome shielder, bumpslasher and a trader, he's also the best at diving, skiing, driving, fighting, maths, you name it.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 02, 2011, 07:00:23 pm
Dude, not only is Daergar an awesome shielder, bumpslasher and a trader, he's also the best at diving, skiing, driving, fighting, maths, you name it.

Stamp collecting?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 02, 2011, 07:04:59 pm
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Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 02, 2011, 07:43:23 pm
I have it from a reliable source that Daergar is banging Angelina Jolie and he is being considered for the Nobel Prize.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 02, 2011, 07:49:10 pm
In what? Economic science? For his efforts in cRPG trading?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 02, 2011, 07:50:54 pm
You need some of this bro.
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Thanks sis. You made a bro happy.

Dude, not only is Daergar an awesome shielder, bumpslasher and a trader, he's also the best at diving, skiing, driving, fighting, maths, you name it.
Yes, you are right. He's the best at anything. The only bad thing about him is that there's not enough of him. How I would love to get some more Daergar in my life :(

And now you two can take your reindeers and get back to Vidda. Sami gtfo of mah forumz!

PS: The Nobel Prize is for Peace, Math, Chemistry, Chicks, Videogames, Religion and just-better-then-the-rest-of-humanity.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 02, 2011, 07:52:28 pm
PS: The Nobel Prize is for Peace, Math, Chemistry, Chicks, Videogames, Religion and just-better-then-the-rest-of-humanity.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/

As you can see the 2011 economic science have not been awarded yet, so it's pretty obvious who'll get it.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: dreadnok on October 05, 2011, 08:19:38 am
shielder is weird since patch so glitchy with the hit boxes
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on October 05, 2011, 09:01:16 pm
Instead of joust tourneys and archery contests...someone should put together a TURTLE ARENA CONTEST OF CHAMPIONS where can duke it out and find the best shielders in the land.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Siiem on October 05, 2011, 09:07:22 pm
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Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 05, 2011, 10:53:11 pm
Instead of joust tourneys and archery contests...someone should put together a TURTLE ARENA CONTEST OF CHAMPIONS where can duke it out and find the best shielders in the land.

oh please.. a match between 2 shielders? would just go on the whole day...  :lol:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 05, 2011, 11:22:47 pm
oh please.. a match between 2 shielders? would just go on the whole day...  :lol:
You have NEVER fought Daergar in a shielder vs shielder. THAT MAN'S SCARY!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rustyspoon on October 05, 2011, 11:53:25 pm
oh please.. a match between 2 shielders? would just go on the whole day...  :lol:

Yeah, I main a shielder and watching something like this would make me want to blow my brains out.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 05, 2011, 11:54:08 pm
i use an axe just for situations like that.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 05, 2011, 11:55:56 pm
i use an axe just for situations like that.
Oooh, I love fighting with a sword and shield against a guy with axe and shield. He will win the blow exchange so I have to try to use the range advantage. It really is great fun, especially when the shield brakes and I can kick properly :D

You should get over to EU so we can have some nice sparring Matey.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 05, 2011, 11:56:50 pm
EU ping and nice sparring?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 06, 2011, 12:00:26 am
EU ping and nice sparring?
That's why I wanted him to go to EU...
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 06, 2011, 12:02:57 am
ha! im pretty hopeless on EU, 160 ping and 73 reach make for an awful combo... all ive got going for me is my speed and timing... and both are severely restricted with high ping. id still be willing to come swing away at you on duel sometime though... i was getting kinda used to EU ping during strat... so  i found a way to be slightly viable in high ping.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 06, 2011, 12:17:23 am
ha! im pretty hopeless on EU, 160 ping and 73 reach make for an awful combo... all ive got going for me is my speed and timing... and both are severely restricted with high ping. id still be willing to come swing away at you on duel sometime though... i was getting kinda used to EU ping during strat... so  i found a way to be slightly viable in high ping.
Goddammit, why wont you guys listen!
¨
I want you to come over here so we can fight on equal ping. Rawr.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Kansuke on October 06, 2011, 12:17:33 am
oh please.. a match between 2 shielders? would just go on the whole day...  :lol:

Not if both of them have axe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtY0LzaXjFE) :wink:
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Leshma on October 06, 2011, 12:42:42 am
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Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Earthdforce on October 06, 2011, 12:45:14 am
Is unbreakable shiled (13 shield skill) a feature or a bug?

I would like serious long term admin or developer to answer me :)
I've never seen anyone banned for having 13 shield skill, at least none that weren't immediately lifted, so I'd say a feature.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 06, 2011, 02:16:46 am
Goddammit, why wont you guys listen!
¨
I want you to come over here so we can fight on equal ping. Rawr.

equal ping? you have 160 ping on EU3?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on October 06, 2011, 02:19:44 am
EU ping and nice sparring?

we can force jarlek to open porn torrents while dueling to balance that.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Xant on October 06, 2011, 02:31:50 am
equal ping? you have 160 ping on EU3?

he wants you to physically go to eu
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 06, 2011, 03:23:54 am
is he paying?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 06, 2011, 07:02:00 pm
he wants you to physically go to eu
FINNALY someone who can read!

is he paying?
You got any moral quirks about where the money is coming from?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Penitent on October 06, 2011, 08:48:20 pm
Not if both of them have axe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtY0LzaXjFE) :wink:

Yeah, not bringing an axe to a shield fight is like not bringing an axe to a shield fight.  Or not bringing bear-mace to Yosemite.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 07, 2011, 02:20:48 am
You got any moral quirks about where the money is coming from?

no.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: rufio on October 07, 2011, 09:04:40 am
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Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Laufknoten on October 07, 2011, 12:41:35 pm
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muriccaa
We definitely need those armors!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 07, 2011, 04:32:46 pm
no.
And travel arrangements? You like, for example, animals and tight spaces? No problem there?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Matey on October 08, 2011, 12:03:26 am
I demand 1st class. unless you can get me a ride with some pirates... on a pirate ship... with sails and no motors... and we get to do some pirating on the way... id be ok with that too.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 08, 2011, 12:14:01 am
I demand 1st class. unless you can get me a ride with some pirates... on a pirate ship... with sails and no motors... and we get to do some pirating on the way... id be ok with that too.
EXCELLENT! I got some Somalis that owes me a favour. Gonna have to convince them to chance boat, though, but I doubt it will be that hard.
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: ManOfWar on October 08, 2011, 12:17:05 am
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17466.15.html


Can this get looked at?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: hippy_with_a_scimi on October 08, 2011, 12:46:27 am
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,17466.15.html


Can this get looked at?

Aint gonna happen Mano  , we as 1handers are the worst kind of people and we are entitled to nothing
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Gurnisson on October 09, 2011, 03:48:45 am
Zapper, what's with your undying love for Deargar. I've seen him, and I wasn't impressed. :P

DimaUrban, Dalhi and LoR, now that's great shielders!
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Jarlek on October 09, 2011, 04:49:08 am
Zapper, what's with your undying love for Deargar. I've seen him, and I wasn't impressed. :P

DimaUrban, Dalhi and LoR, now that's great shielders!
He just retired. Still went 15:3. Waddya say?
Title: Re: I love being a TUURRTTLE!!!!
Post by: Gurnisson on October 09, 2011, 04:59:50 am
I just commented on when I've seen him. He may be good, but from what I've seen, I'm not impressed. Reading your posts I conclude that he'll prove me wrong in the future. :)