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Title: Pope.
Post by: The_Angle on September 12, 2011, 09:00:22 pm
Elect a single pope you Catholics, instead of having one for each clan! It'd be funny to see, a pope telling everybody todo stuff. Just throwing the idea out there, its probably been thought of a million times already.

Discuss, debate, troll below.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Slantedfloors on September 12, 2011, 10:42:29 pm
I've already declared myself Double-Pope, in an effort to head off an attempt by any other factions to elect their own pontiff. Any Crusader clans that do not acknowledge my ecclesiastical authority are subject to Double-Excommunication, which is twice as bad as regular excommunication.

Also, Double-Pope's get twice the prize money when they get chosen.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Spleen on September 12, 2011, 10:43:54 pm
I'm a chadzionist. Fuck the Pope.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: hamiler on September 12, 2011, 10:50:16 pm
Elect a single pope you Catholics, instead of having one for each clan! It'd be funny to see, a pope telling everybody todo stuff. Just throwing the idea out there, its probably been thought of a million times already.

Discuss, debate, troll below.
if only the pope can call crusades in strategus
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Matey on September 12, 2011, 11:03:19 pm
wouldnt that make Ecko or Ujin the pope? which one of them is most responsible for the crusade agaisnt afgoonistan?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Slantedfloors on September 12, 2011, 11:05:27 pm
wouldnt that make Ecko or Ujin the pope? which one of them is most responsible for the crusade agaisnt afgoonistan?
Antipopes, the both of them. That's why they failed.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Keshian on September 12, 2011, 11:07:58 pm
wouldnt that make Ecko or Ujin the pope? which one of them is most responsible for the crusade agaisnt afgoonistan?

I nominate Goretooth.  Next strategus the Goons can call a holy jihad on the European knights clans with the blessing of the pope and the pope can order the knights to kill each other off (wont that stir up a hornet's nest).

Other alternative: chadz - follow VRN around the whole map attacking only their enemies.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Malaclypse on September 13, 2011, 02:32:09 am
I'm going to go out on a bunless frank here and declare myself High-Priest & Polyfather under the principles of the Paratheo-Anametamystikhood of Eris Esoteric.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Kingtrisp on September 13, 2011, 09:32:21 am
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Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Ganner on September 13, 2011, 10:21:16 am
Well yeah?

I am THE GANNER

A god and legend among Yuuzhan Vong

You shall BOW before me.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Chagan_Arslan on September 13, 2011, 01:20:34 pm
I nominate Templar_Casimir for the Pope, his stoic character should be an example for us all.

God wills it!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Kafein on September 13, 2011, 01:57:44 pm
I've already declared myself Double-Pope, in an effort to head off an attempt by any other factions to elect their own pontiff. Any Crusader clans that do not acknowledge my ecclesiastical authority are subject to Double-Excommunication, which is twice as bad as regular excommunication.

Also, Double-Pope's get twice the prize money when they get chosen.

The Goonlami Republic of Afgoonistan must elect an Ayatollah, not a Pope  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Lizard_man on September 13, 2011, 02:18:57 pm
Fuck the pope...
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: neupreis on September 13, 2011, 02:46:55 pm
Its an intressting idea, especially for roleplayer-factions. Why not. 
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 13, 2011, 07:09:01 pm
I nominate Templar_Casimir for the Pope, his stoic character should be an example for us all.

God wills it!


A FAKE POPE?

POPE_BREDEUS_THE_FIRST IS THE RIGHTFULL POPE, SPEAKING LIKE THAT COULD GET YOU BURNED... AT THE STAKE!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 13, 2011, 07:11:06 pm
Lol, Templars taking about burning people at the stake.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Teeth on September 13, 2011, 07:12:25 pm
I will only accept a Pope called Pope Hilarius (Yes, there actually was one) Which is pretty easy, cause all popes do a full rename of themselves when chosen, so the first to name himself Paus Hilarius has my unconditional support.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 13, 2011, 07:21:40 pm
Lol, Templars taking about burning people at the stake.


Hey that experience... increased our fire resistance!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Slantedfloors on September 13, 2011, 07:58:33 pm
The Goonlami Republic of Afgoonistan must elect an Ayatollah, not a Pope  :rolleyes:
The trick is getting everyone to acknowledge me as Pope, then converting to Islam.

ALLEN'HU SNACKBAR
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Jarlek on September 14, 2011, 07:57:41 pm
Fuck the Pope. I'm gonna follow DA POOP!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on September 14, 2011, 08:31:21 pm
Templar Brede is the pope.

He is the head of chadzianity.

Armagan (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2) is the creator, our god as such.

chadz (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=1) is the messiah.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: The_Angle on September 14, 2011, 10:18:34 pm
I think there should be a Legitimacy war between factions to decide whom gets to be the real pope!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: gazda on September 14, 2011, 10:24:14 pm
Highly doubt that such a big mass of players would be able to roleplay something so large scaled
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: bredeus on September 14, 2011, 10:34:36 pm
Want to be a Pope?
Gather Papal Guards and Cardinals first.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Silicium on September 15, 2011, 02:07:38 am
Assassinate the current pope or wait until the good man dies of old age. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on September 15, 2011, 03:09:52 am
The first Calradian curch was formed long ago during Growls time as grandmaster.

St. Asdimanus was the first pope, he passed earlier this year along with many a crusader.
Title: Re: Pope.
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Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: The_Angle on September 15, 2011, 10:16:51 pm
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Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Mtemtko on September 15, 2011, 10:29:39 pm
So... who is going to lead the jihad then?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: neupreis on September 17, 2011, 05:40:02 pm
Want to be a Pope?
Gather Papal Guards and Cardinals first.

Thats a good idea. Maybe we should chose some fiefs on strategus and say, if one faction is controlling one of this chosen fiefs, they will get a Cardinal there. This Cardinals can vote the pope. Of course only the factions, who are agreeing with the pope-system.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Tomas on September 17, 2011, 10:50:55 pm
Why not have 2 seperate NA and EU server figureheads (Popes) as elected by the NA and EU clans.

Any Figurehead that ever managed to get eleceted would then have the power to call a righteous war (crusade) against a clan on the opposite server.  Once declared the server for all of that clans villages/fiefs would get switched for one week allowing them to be attacked without the server disadvantage.  After one week the server switches back (including the server of captured villages/fiefs) allowing the clan attacked to counter again with their server advantage reinstated.  Any fief still under enemy control after 2 weeks then gets its server premanently switched.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on September 17, 2011, 10:51:30 pm
I could be The Pope.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 17, 2011, 11:30:02 pm
No...

Brede is the pope!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Braeden on September 17, 2011, 11:51:26 pm
I would put in my own candidacy for Pope, but Bredeus is the one and only true pope, as chosen by the hand of Growl and anointed by the cardinals.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on September 18, 2011, 12:03:33 am
I could be The Pope.

wait aren't fallen meant to be evil heretics...
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Dehitay on September 18, 2011, 12:15:03 am
wait aren't fallen meant to be evil heretics...
We were under the impression that Christianity was similar. Don't y'all drink the blood and eat the flesh of some guy like once a week or something?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on September 18, 2011, 12:23:44 am
What the hell is Christianity? This calradia my boy, and chadzianity is the one true religion!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 18, 2011, 12:26:40 am
Yeh!

Wheres the little children!?!?!?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Rebelyell on September 18, 2011, 12:33:02 am
i have idea....



BURN THEM ALL
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 18, 2011, 01:00:42 am
Don't burn my children!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: HarunYahya on September 18, 2011, 02:04:29 am
So... who is going to lead the jihad then?
U kidding me ?
آل المنتصرة
الله هو دائما أحد منتصرا
اَ تَدْخُلُونَ الْجَنَّةَ حَتَّى تُؤْمِنُوا وَلاَ تُؤْمِنُوا حَتَّى تَحَابُّ
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on September 18, 2011, 11:09:04 am
Fuckin moonspeak!

How am I translating that?

Damm dirty turk!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: bredeus on September 18, 2011, 12:53:55 pm
Dont you dare translate this it's ment to be burn without reading.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Osiris on September 18, 2011, 01:21:28 pm
Deus vult!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Byrdi on September 28, 2011, 07:53:38 am
Deus vult!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Vibe on September 28, 2011, 09:28:00 am
U kidding me ?
آل المنتصرة
الله هو دائما أحد منتصرا
اَ تَدْخُلُونَ الْجَنَّةَ حَتَّى تُؤْمِنُوا وَلاَ تُؤْمِنُوا حَتَّى تَحَابُّ

        Thou art a turkish imp, the damned devil's brother and friend, and a secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight art thou that cannot slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou son of a bitch wilt not ever make subjects of Brigade sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck thy mother.

        Thou art the Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, Armenian pig, Podolian villain, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, a fool before our God, a grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!

        So the Fallens declare, you lowlife. Thou wilt not even be herding Brigade pigs. Now we shall conclude, for we don't know the date and don't have a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year in the book, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!


        Vibe the handsome, with the whole Fallen Brigade.

Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 01, 2011, 07:24:00 pm
This is an interesting concept, and under certain condition I am willing to support it.

We need clear rules. Without them, the concept will not work.

For example:
a) Christian faction holding the land has the right to bet one cardinal. (loss of land = loss of cardinal)
b) Cardinal can not be a leader, diplomat, or perform any significant function.
c) It should be a person generally popular with impeccable morals.
c) The first conclave should be effected in 30 days after the start of a new Strat.
d) Conclave (all cardinals) elect the Pope (one of them).
e) The function is lifetime. Resignation (RL?) / removal (revolt?) means the next conclave.
f) The Pope has the right to their own army and the land and to collect taxes.
g) The Cardinals implement the pope policy. The Pope can appeal and invoke the Cardinals without any consultation.

It may be in an interesting way to complicate the game and create a new force. The concept would have to improve, refine, it is only makeshift, but maybe worth trying establish something like this to life.

PS We are ready to support the candidacy of Brede, only if he speaks Polish  :wink: Nieźle się ustawiłeś  :wink:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Teeth on October 01, 2011, 08:05:47 pm
This would be the most awesome thing that has ever happened roleplay wise if we got the above done.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on October 01, 2011, 08:07:34 pm
This is an interesting concept, and under certain condition I am willing to support it.

We need clear rules. Without them, the concept will not work.

For example:
a) Christian faction holding the land has the right to bet one cardinal. (loss of land = loss of cardinal)
b) Cardinal can not be a leader, diplomat, or perform any significant function.
c) It should be a person generally popular with impeccable morals.
c) The first conclave should be effected in 30 days after the start of a new Strat.
d) Conclave (all cardinals) elect the Pope (one of them).
e) The function is lifetime. Resignation (RL?) / removal (revolt?) means the next conclave.
f) The Pope has the right to their own army and the land and to collect taxes.
g) The Cardinals implement the pope policy. The Pope can appeal and invoke the Cardinals without any consultation.

It may be in an interesting way to complicate the game and create a new force. The concept would have to improve, refine, it is only makeshift, but maybe worth trying establish something like this to life.

PS We are ready to support the candidacy of Brede, only if he speaks Polish  :wink: Nieźle się ustawiłeś  :wink:

Butbutbutbtutuutututu I'm cardinal, I don't want too many of them, that would be nasty, the best thing about molesting little children is if they never have done it before, but with too many cardinals, it will be like, everybody has been raped.

But yes brede is our polish pope, we are pulling his strings... I mean advising him :3
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 01, 2011, 09:42:54 pm
Ye well cRPG_Templar is in brede's house in poland, so imagine you grey's have a decent ping there.

Anyway, God wills Brede for retaining his papacy
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: bredeus on October 01, 2011, 09:55:21 pm
Who are those Christians?
Damn heretics, we the Pope Bredeus the first are a head of chadzian Church. God wills it!
Maybe it is a time to raise an Inquisition again. Last time when we got a Inquisitor ws fon. Ah Beachump wht you have forsaken us!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: The_Angle on October 02, 2011, 02:15:14 pm
Damn ye false gods! There is only Bulldog!

@Harpag
I think it could work in the way that we have GM's for MMO's you know?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 02, 2011, 04:09:35 pm
Praise be to chadz, son of the holy creator Armagan!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 03, 2011, 12:32:26 pm
If you find someone who will take seriously this idea, I'll help. I will try to convince the leaders of several major clans to participate. I will help invent the rules. If we agree to transfer a certain number of tickets and gold for the Papal States (for example 1k  tikets and 100k gold) in return for having one of the cardinal in the conclave, then you really introduce significant change to the gameplay.

This time, I unfortunately do not have time for trollololo  :(
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Jarlek on October 03, 2011, 02:42:40 pm
If you find someone who will take seriously this idea, I'll help. I will try to convince the leaders of several major clans to participate. I will help invent the rules. If we agree to transfer a certain number of tickets and gold for the Papal States (for example 1k  tikets and 100k gold) in return for having one of the cardinal in the conclave, then you really introduce significant change to the gameplay.

This time, I unfortunately do not have time for trollololo  :(
Fuck it, I'm supporting this! Make each fief = one cardinal and one cardinal = 1 vote for pope. Any faction must choose their religion (only chadzian factions gets cardinals ofc) so as not to FORCE people to recognize the Pope. The Pope can call crusades on any of the non-chadzian religions whenever he wants, but he needs an RP reason to call a crusade against a chadzian faction. Maybe if they attack another chadzian faction or something.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 03, 2011, 03:21:29 pm
Nah i see heretics who are trying to demote only one true Pope!!!
As a one of firsts Papal Guards i will defend our Pope to the end!!!

One true Pope is Bredeus
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 03, 2011, 03:42:31 pm
If you find someone who will take seriously this idea, I'll help. I will try to convince the leaders of several major clans to participate. I will help invent the rules. If we agree to transfer a certain number of tickets and gold for the Papal States (for example 1k  tikets and 100k gold) in return for having one of the cardinal in the conclave, then you really introduce significant change to the gameplay.

This time, I unfortunately do not have time for trollololo  :(

If you want to make this serious face then there needs to be a lot more work done than just saying everyone with a fief gets a vote, else its just another way of large clans dominating others.

If this idea is to go ahead in a serious manner first we would need to agree on the religious factions, the dominant and most influential members of those factions and look at outlining some for of religious code that all members of that religion must follow, lest they be expelled or excommunicated.

For many months now i have been calling for all holy warriors and religious men to come forth and embrace the light of armagan, so far few have answered the call.  The brave warrior of Schwertbruder have been among the few to recognise the pope, and the one true god Armagan
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Bjord on October 03, 2011, 04:11:35 pm
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My fucking god, I laughed.

:golfclap:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Xant on October 03, 2011, 04:22:18 pm
chadzianity doesn't have a Pope. The equivalent of Pope in chadzianity is the Chode. I think Tears_Of_Destiny would fill that role quite well.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 03, 2011, 04:42:34 pm
Casimir, I know very well that such a concept needs work and organization, but strategus now is not working, so we have a little more free time than in the middle of the war.

I think that at the beginning we should do a poll and check if people are interested in the concept.
I consider that religions should be fictional, but so little resembled a real conflict of the Holy Land.
Come up with two major religions and 2-3 sects for each.
Maybe religion EU (chadzianity and Chode) / NA (Antichadzianity and Pope) plus modifications (something like the Orthodox Church and the Reformation in the EU + something else in religion NA) is a good idea.

Who have cool idea, please let's write.

I believe that we can not allow this to true antagonism created between real Christians and Muslims from real life. It would be hopeless.

Assign one vote for one location is a bad idea because it will be favored large fractions, so I do not want to. One vote for one faction is better.

Rebelyell ... repeating the same stupidity over and over again is boring. You're a heretic, so you better watch out for words because you will burn at the stake  :twisted:
Bring an interesting element to the idea, in such a way that it was acceptable by the whole community, or just shut up.

Potentially the most interested in , should do vote, and invented a religions. And that's not me.  :wink:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on October 03, 2011, 05:34:43 pm
Rebelyell ... repeating the same stupidity over and over again is boring. You're a heretic, so you better watch out for words because you will burn at the stake  :twisted:
Bring an interesting element to the idea, in such a way that it was acceptable by the whole community, or just shut up.

naahhahaha, you can't burn our polish person, hes far too amusing drunk!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Byrdi on October 03, 2011, 06:47:48 pm
Dont get it; are greys religious now? Or have they always been?

If not, why does this guy bother so much about our popes?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Jarlek on October 03, 2011, 08:54:13 pm
Dont get it; are greys religious now? Or have they always been?

If not, why does this guy bother so much about our popes?
Uhmmm. Grey Order? Monks who fight to cleans their souls?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 03, 2011, 09:10:36 pm
nah how to say that.... i think ten some persons from Grey order likes me Very much

anyway like casmir said we have that, some peps join us so ect.

Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 03, 2011, 09:31:40 pm
Of course harpag we are all here to further the reach of chadzianity, armagan blesses those devout followers who work cohesively and with holy intentions.

And ofcourse a good system for this would be interesting but i do question how many cans could manage the role-playing and how it would effect internal and external relations.

I think our first step as you said is to agree on one uniform religion, we should really look at documenting religious groups that already exist within calradia and cRPG.  This would give us a good idea of who would b interested in this idea, who would side with chadzianity and Armaganism and who would follow Kebabs and what not.

Maybe we can look at creating a template for clan leaders to submit their religious standing and so we can more easily assess whether this move would be popular.


I think however some members of the Templars see this as an intrusion into the RP which we have held so highly since our creation.

The pope and the papal guard have been core to clan for a long time and are positions within our clan which are highly regarded, this would take away a staple of the Templars which would have negative consequences.  I hope other factions do consider this if this idea does go ahead and respect the Templar dedication to Armaganism and our saviour chadz.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on October 03, 2011, 10:37:08 pm
You forgot me D:

I'm the cardinal (lol)
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 04, 2011, 11:01:25 am
I think that no one wants to intrude into your internal affairs, but you can expect that in such a simulation medieval world as strategus, it will be something more than military alliances. Now waiting for us trade / economy.
An interesting addition is a religion, but not so for one faction, but for all, as an idea. Regardless of the "confessions". You think that you have to this subject, "vocation". All right. I am curious about your proposal. Waiting for a template, a poll, vote, etc.

You will do a universal concept for the whole community, or will you do this your inner RP. The choice is yours, but this second option has no future, and the first will bring you the most benefit.
I hope that something will come out, because it will complicate relations between the factions.
Especially the crusade should be interesting. Good casus belli, is not bad  :wink:

You can convince people to such a concept, but it must be well done.
Your move.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 04, 2011, 03:38:00 pm
Im more than willing to work progressively with others who intentions are clear.

i was just hoping to explain why some Templars may be more hostile towards this suggestion.

The system we originally developed in the 1st Calradian church was mostly to bring about RP.


At the base are the Papal Guard, they are recruited from holy orders and knightly orders as it stands, this could of course change and could be a self sustaining multi clan faction that works together.  Their basic role in strategus is to escort the pope around the strategus map while on diplomatic missions and to do the same while in game normally.  The papal guard are experienced, and deadly warriors which should work cohesively as a unit and also be able to fight effectively alone and outnumbered.

The second level we developed was the cardinal, this was intended as an assistant to the pope, to support him with RP events and to help arrange these things, unfortunately we chose hardness so ye...
Cardinals were intended to from the college of cardinals, which would manage the Papal guard, and ensure their loyalty and dedication to the pope as well as managing the affairs of the papacy.

The popes main aim was to act as a figure head, to unite cardinals from different factions and to arrange events for RP etc.


These basic ranks fill most of the required aspects of a papacy in as far as i can tell. It doesn't allow the pope dictatorial powers but also ensures that he is protected from aggressive influence.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 04, 2011, 05:24:16 pm
I'm not sure that I understood everything well, but generally we begin to agree. You know, everything what is implemented directly in the game is quite simple. This is what requires effort, it has just RP.
The community is already mature. We all learned how to operate alliances based on human relationships, how to sign truces and guard conditions. It does not matter whether you talk to an ally or enemy. It is important that when you declare something, you are doing  this later. This is the trust on which we can build various conventions, therefore, I believe that the time to attempt to create something together.

I like your scenario. I especially like this part:
The popes main aim was to act as a figure head, to unite cardinals from different factions and to arrange events for RP etc.

And that's what I mean, the pope should be common, democratically elected, and should impose its influence on political relations between all factions.

Papal Guard should be faithful to the Pope, regardless of whom chose the conclave. What do you think?

We look forward to any concrete religious movements in Calradia  :wink:
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 04, 2011, 07:24:36 pm
Indeed that was the intent of the papal guard, they obviously fight for their faction, but their loyalty is to the pope, maybe some form of vows etc.

Should really try and gauge the number of factions that would be interested in joining the calradian church
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Jarlek on October 04, 2011, 08:12:54 pm
Indeed that was the intent of the papal guard, they obviously fight for their faction, but their loyalty is to the pope, maybe some form of vows etc.

Should really try and gauge the number of factions that would be interested in joining the calradian church
With the Papal Guard, maybe make it so they can't fight against people who the Pope don't want them to (obviously have to be told in advance), and if they merc too many times they are removed from the Papal Guard and their faction recieves -1 in Papal Relations?

I really want a Papal Relations, btw. Kinda cool xD
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 04, 2011, 09:50:57 pm
Someone should make a clan serving real Christianity and Catholicism and then vote for a Pope.

Not chadzianity (Wtf). Gogo realism?
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Braeden on October 04, 2011, 11:03:08 pm
Someone should make a clan serving real Christianity and Catholicism and then vote for a Pope.

Not chadzianity (Wtf). Gogo realism?

Bringing real religion into video games is about 100% a terrible idea.  Maybe 110%.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 04, 2011, 11:04:04 pm
yep lets keep our RP( a o taki żarcik dla polaków :P)
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 04, 2011, 11:23:17 pm
Bringing real religion into video games is about 100% a terrible idea.  Maybe 110%.

Nah it's good. As long as you got moderators doing their job it won't be a bad idea :D
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 04, 2011, 11:32:46 pm
No, real religion leads to too much hostility, i myself am not religious and wouldn't be involved in some kind of Christian movement, this is calradia, not the real world.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on October 04, 2011, 11:35:34 pm
This is not something that can just be roleplayed if you want it to mean anything. Not that I see it to be much more than doing this:

1) Make a religion, with associated goals, rules and suchlike. These could be various, like not being allowed to annihilate fellow member states, offering the assistance and protection of member states forces in wars against "heretics" and so on. Or even providing more general help in any matter of things.

2) Declare yourself the "pope".

3) Find willing supporters, give them a say in the running of things.

4) Crusade fools and force them to convert then give them a say in the running of things too, or take over the land and install a faction there who does want to support the papacy.

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The only hard bit is making it so people actually want to join, so there needs to be benefits to being a member of this group. However if done right and if the papacy has sufficient sway within powerful member states then it could be very beneficial to join. The hardest thing is getting to that point as until such a group has power and influence there is very little reason to join it.

Really it is just a large semi-alliance with full autonomy within member states likely to help one another but not forced to, whom must follow certain rules regarding how you act amongst and against one another to further the causes of the papacy.

It could be interesting, if done right, not that I plan on joining :)
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 04, 2011, 11:40:17 pm
Plazekstanian scum, you will burn for your heretical ways!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 05, 2011, 01:24:28 am
No, real religion leads to too much hostility, i myself am not religious and wouldn't be involved in some kind of Christian movement, this is calradia, not the real world.

Some would! For ze RP reasons.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 05, 2011, 11:36:11 am
Implementation of true religion in our game is definitely ruled out. I do not want to risk a row and offend someone's religious feelings. You can be inspired by the true religions, but all names must be fictitious. Geographically Calradia does not resemble any real continent, and that's good. Culturally, it only resembles the real world, mixing historical  with the fiction concepts (Sarranid, Khergit vs. Milanese, Byzantion Helmet). That should be with the religion, because we do not want stupid misunderstandings. In my view, this is the end of the topic. You have to keep the convention.

Write your suggestions for your faction, and we'll see where this leads and what it implies.
For example: Swadian's confesion of West Calradian Church, with the episcopate in Praven, subordinate directly under the Pope, the head of the First Calradian Church - for Grey Order.
(This is just an example, then we will match the overall concept. Later I'll ask someone who knows English very well, so write this nicely.)
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 05, 2011, 11:38:38 am
Implementation of true religion in our game is definitely ruled out. I do not want to risk a row and offend someone's religious feelings. You can be inspired by the true religions, but all names must be fictitious. Geographically Calradia does not resemble any real continent, and that's good. Culturally, it only resembles the real world, mixing historical  with the fiction concepts (Sarranid, Khergit vs. Milanese, Byzantion Helmet). That should be with the religion, because we do not want stupid misunderstandings. In my view, this is the end of the topic. You have to keep the convention.

Write your suggestions for your faction, and we'll see where this leads and what it implies.
For example: Swadian's confesion of West Calradian Church, with the episcopate in Praven, subordinate directly under the Pope, the head of the First Calradian Church - for Grey Order.
(This is just an example, then we will match the overall concept. Later I'll ask someone who knows English very well, so write this nicely.)

Atleast the bolded part sounds better than Armagan and chadz lol.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Vovka on October 05, 2011, 12:26:42 pm
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Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 05, 2011, 01:01:08 pm
Slavic paganism hmm... This concept sounds cool for me. I have to think about what I want  :?  Waiting for developments. I just have a problem with the fact that paganism had no orders  :(

Look at this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetovid
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Rebelyell on October 05, 2011, 01:05:36 pm
nah your clan is balance between light side and dark so you can make something between paganism and Christianity something what brings balance to your soul and world......
but that sound like new age :P

Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Kafein on October 05, 2011, 02:43:12 pm
If some people elect a Pope, we need a Richard Dawkins char.

Ho noes, I need to create a new alt now.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Casimir on October 05, 2011, 03:15:47 pm
Atleast the bolded part sounds better than Armagan and chadz lol.

Funny because its been around longer than you have.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 05, 2011, 03:52:56 pm
Funny because its been around longer than you have.

WHY U BUTTHURT CASIMIIIIR! U NO GO DEUS VULT U GO ALLAHU AKBAR.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Oberyn on October 06, 2011, 07:55:08 am
It's Deus Magnus Est, noob.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Siiem on October 06, 2011, 01:53:08 pm
NO POPE!
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Xant on October 06, 2011, 02:40:22 pm
Bringing real religion into video games is about 100% a terrible idea.  Maybe 110%.

I don't think there actually are more than a few percent of religious people on these boards.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Siiem on October 06, 2011, 02:58:22 pm
I don't think there actually are more than a few percent of religious people on these boards.

Says the heretic...
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: LordBerenger on October 06, 2011, 03:03:23 pm
I don't think there actually are more than a few percent of religious people on these boards.

If you read the poll it's like 70 something i belive percent of these boards that are Atheists/Agnostics.

And about 400(?) or so voted.
Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: neupreis on October 06, 2011, 09:44:51 pm
Everbody who want discuss the details of the pope system is invited to come on the Grey-Server: 217.209.32.140:7101

Time: 09.10.2011 Sunday, 10pm GMT+2 (Berlin, 22.00)

Title: Re: Pope.
Post by: Harpag on October 09, 2011, 06:44:59 pm
Everbody who want discuss the details of the pope system is invited to come on the Grey-Server: 217.209.32.140:7101

Time: 09.10.2011 Sunday, 10pm GMT+2 (Berlin, 22.00)

Sorry. Outdated. Introduction Stratagus forced a change of plans.