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Title: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 06:38:07 pm
Sigh...

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Why is the obvious arsehole being defended by the twat of an admin?



Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Bjord on August 14, 2011, 06:41:14 pm
Most importantly, why the FUCK does Armbrust_Manne have admin?  :lol:

That guy has the brain of 9-year-old and the impulse control of a chimp.

I feel for you, Murm.  :?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 07:17:43 pm
Tzar was raging because he was killed by kill creeping cav as he was in melee. Musmillus insulted him as Tzar told him not to intervent into melees anymore so i kicked him...its nice you try to make people agressive against me due to title 'dont bother to donate to these servers anymore' well its the pecores server and we pay it.

thx for the unbiased comments. who even cares.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Dezilagel on August 14, 2011, 07:28:46 pm
thx for the unbiased comments. who even cares.

you.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Overdriven on August 14, 2011, 07:30:19 pm
Schtze, you should have kicked them both if you were going to at all. Insults don't matter, he said sorry for the TK and Tzar replied with fu. Tzar shouldn't have been raging about it anyway. In a case like this, you can't kick one and not the other.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on August 14, 2011, 07:30:39 pm
edit: nevermind.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Xant on August 14, 2011, 07:32:28 pm
hey, relax its only the pecores server...

This. I didn't know anyone was still under the impression that Pecores had proper admins?  :lol:

You can do pretty much anything there and not get kicked, and you can do nothing at all and get banned. Makes it all the more fun. Living on the edge etc etc, y'know?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Bjord on August 14, 2011, 07:32:54 pm
Schtze, you should have kicked them both if you were going to at all. Insults don't matter, he said sorry for the TK and Tzar replied with fu. Tzar shouldn't have been raging about it anyway. In a case like this, you can't kick one and not the other.

See, even someone who isn't an admin understands this.

I really hope Pecores reconsiders their selection of admins, at least if they value server traffic and potential server donators.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 08:03:14 pm
Tzar was raging because he was killed by kill creeping cav as he was in melee. Musmillus insulted him as Tzar told him not to intervent into melees anymore so i kicked him...its nice you try to make people agressive against me due to title 'dont bother to donate to these servers anymore' well its the pecores server and we pay it.

thx for the unbiased comments. who even cares.

After he said FU to me, I responded with "Fine, I won't apologise in the future", he then went on to give me a paragraph about how much of a noob I am and how much he hates tks and such, to which I replied something like "lol noob, I am better than you", and then that's when you asked him if you wanted me kicked, and no I wasn't calling him a noob, I was simply lolling at him calling me one.
Title: Armbrust Manne = admin on Pecores server.
Post by: Gnjus on August 14, 2011, 08:15:26 pm
Good work lads, another great success. Keep it up !

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Title: Re: Armbrust Manne = admin on Pecores server.
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 08:20:49 pm
lol n1 jnjus
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 14, 2011, 08:27:55 pm
After he said FU to me, I responded with "Fine, I won't apologise in the future", he then went on to give me a paragraph about how much of a noob I am and how much he hates tks and such, to which I replied something like "lol noob, I am better than you", and then that's when you asked him if you wanted me kicked, and no I wasn't calling him a noob, I was simply lolling at him calling me one.

the real reason is they saw your bulbasaur avatar.

anyway i understand you. i got banned two times back in 2010 by weird admins...

he just did a show of his admin powers to impress that 22nd (kids like doing things to impress their top-clan heroes) like my brother showing me his new toy car. pity... but i assure there are good admins among pecores. ccoinn2, cadage and others just do good.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Gorath on August 14, 2011, 08:28:35 pm
While I agree that the admin action seems highly unjustified, have you noticed that so many of these "badmin" actions happen to you?  There seems to be a common denominator here...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 08:29:52 pm
lol overdriven i dont care your advise, i dont care bjords try to point out my obvious retardness and i dont care somebodies crying in 'general discussion' because he was kicked by admin :p

and btw you guys werent there..of course murmillus only screened what i and the russian guy typed and not what he self wrote in the chat ((;
Title: Re: Armbrust Manne = admin on Pecores server.
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 14, 2011, 08:30:05 pm
lol n1 jnjus

well.. seems sarcasm to me.. in case you haven't noticed.
Title: Re: Armbrust Manne = admin on Pecores server.
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 08:33:59 pm
well.. seems sarcasm to me.. in case you haven't noticed.

lol my answer was sarcasm. if you didnt notice.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 08:36:50 pm
Cadage appears to be a nice admin indeed, in-fact earlier on some Wolves couldn't join because the server was full, including 6 spectators who'd been there for a while, so I suggested they be kicked and cadage agreed, and before long the stranded Wolves members were able to play.

Coin also appears to be a decent admin and hasn't given any reason at-all to dispute this.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, don't bother donating to these servers.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 08:39:44 pm
lol overdriven i dont care your advise, i dont care bjords try to point out my obvious retardness and i dont care somebodies crying in 'general discussion' because he was kicked by admin :p

and btw you guys werent there..of course murmillus only screened what i and the russian guy typed and not what he self wrote in the chat ((;

I screened his reaction to my apology because I'm aware that sometimes players are kicked for arguing, before I responded with "Fine I won't apologise in the future", I then made a screen when you suggested to kick me on his behalf, because I was shocked, then the third screen is to show the result of the situation which I had screened from the start. The bits in-between I've already mentioned above and I have no reason to lie.

If I had screened his reply to me saying "Fine I won't apologise in the future then", it would back my position up even further, because it would do nothing more than to prove he was of irrational thought, a complete raging idiot who thought it was acceptable to insult me repeatedly including swearing at me after I had apologised, since I had not treated him with kind, for example swearing back at him, I find it hard that you have any other genuine reason for kicking me than because you're a douche.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Mendro on August 14, 2011, 08:44:52 pm
Why make this topic here?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Gorath on August 14, 2011, 08:46:43 pm
Why make this topic here?

Because shitting up the forums with drama and rage is the in-thing to do don'tcha know.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 14, 2011, 08:49:49 pm
Because shitting up the forums with drama and rage is the in-thing to do don'tcha know.

You just shit up the forums in general
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 08:51:40 pm
Because shitting up the forums with drama and rage is the in-thing to do don'tcha know.

Because admin's who make bad decisions that affect the general playing population to being driven towards being victim of negative irrational biased decision making based punishment deserve to be highlighted so that maybe something can be done, and so anyone else treated the same way can add their voice to the call for responsible administration of the mod most of us are addicted to and enjoy.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 08:59:56 pm
a long text again im to lazy too read..dont understand what u even crying about. if you have problems we have a special section for hit..and btw i kick spectators too and i warn twice so im nice admin too (;
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on August 14, 2011, 09:01:28 pm
Why make this topic here?
to have a general discussion over it?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 14, 2011, 09:07:46 pm
lol overdriven i dont care your advise, i dont care bjords try to point out my obvious retardness and i dont care somebodies crying in 'general discussion' because he was kicked by admin :p

and btw you guys werent there..of course murmillus only screened what i and the russian guy typed and not what he self wrote in the chat ((;

No I wasn't there, but there was a period of 1min between his apology and your kicking. I don't reckon that they could have had that much of a screaming match between those two points in time.

And if what you think I said is wrong, then you shouldn't be an admin. You simply cannot favour one person and not the other when they are both being tards. And as much as Murmillus has made these threads in the past, I'd be inclined to act more against Tzar than him on this issue because he did actually apologise at the start, but of course we don't have a screen of that 1min of convo in the middle. Regardless, you either leave them alone, warn them or kick them both. If you had done your job, this thread wouldn't be here.

Now I know this thread is a bit of a kicking and screaming pointlessly issue. But I do hate to see bad admins myself.

a long text again im to lazy too read..dont understand what u even crying about. if you have problems we have a special section for hit..and btw i kick spectators too and i warn twice so im nice admin too (;

If you can't read that much text, then how can you possibly keep track of the conversations in the middle of a game amognst the casualty reports?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Babelfish on August 14, 2011, 09:10:31 pm
 Did (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4288.msg77098.html#msg77098)   this  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4180.msg75497.html#msg75497)  guy  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3091.msg54875.html#msg54875)  become admin? lulz
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 14, 2011, 09:16:33 pm
Murmillus prime never do anything wrong, when he gets kicked its obiously the admins fault, always. Really dude, take a chill pill.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on August 14, 2011, 09:16:51 pm
Did (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4288.msg77098.html#msg77098)   this  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4180.msg75497.html#msg75497)  guy  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3091.msg54875.html#msg54875)  become admin? lulz

well the pecores server follow EU rules but is not a official EU. it's like SoA server, Shogunate, Legio, Valhalla. public servers ran with private money... so not a big issue. was a far more concerning fact if that guy was an admin of EU_1 or EU_2...

Murmillus prime never do anything wrong, when he gets kicked its obiously the admins fault, always. Really dude, take a chill pill.

sure but admins should give a good behaviour example. Besides of who did a mistake, the admins should enforce clear rules in a clear and unbiased order. Warn, Kick, Warn Kick, Warn Ban. usually.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Karmazyn on August 14, 2011, 09:19:47 pm
Did (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4288.msg77098.html#msg77098)   this  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4180.msg75497.html#msg75497)  guy  (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3091.msg54875.html#msg54875)  become admin? lulz

Why not, Poophammer got admin on NA, Fasader is total biased towards 2h/crossbow like a croatian soccer fan towards croatian national team and he is item balancer, this is a good tradition. :)
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Babelfish on August 14, 2011, 09:21:32 pm
well the pecores server follow EU rules but is not a official EU. it's like SoA server, Shogunate, Legio, Valhalla. public servers ran with private money... so not a big issue. was a far more concerning fact if that guy was an admin of EU_1 or EU_2...

yeah, but its hilarious that one of the most famous teamkiller is now monitoring a server.

Why not, Poophammer got admin on NA, Fasader is total biased towards 2h/crossbow like a croatian soccer fan towards croatian national team and he is item balancer, this is a good tradition. :)

Bit offtopic, but yeah changes should be made, and Fasaderp (:P) should totally be kicked off the balance team :)
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 14, 2011, 09:25:11 pm
yeah, but its hilarious that one of the most famous teamkiller is now monitoring a server.

Bit offtopic, but yeah changes should be made, and Fasaderp (:P) should totally be kicked off the balance team :)

Maybe he learns something! :D
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on August 14, 2011, 09:27:50 pm
a long text again im to lazy too read


First mistake, being admin is listining to you're peers instead of going ''bla bla bla I don't care''
Its all about learning whats right and wrong, also I'm not a admin and even I know NEVER EVER to ask the victim if they want to ban/kick, because they are hot blooded and are fustrated making there judgment blurred...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 14, 2011, 09:30:47 pm
I think everyone here needs to make love, not war, hug and make up.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: POOPHAMMER on August 14, 2011, 09:31:15 pm
Maybe he learns something! :D

I used to find myself in the ban boat quite a few times back in my day. People do change.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 09:45:33 pm
ask the pecores im not doing bullshit. and if a guy asks me to help (even if he speaks horrible english) i do.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 10:09:25 pm
ask the pecores im not doing bullshit. and if a guy asks me to help (even if he speaks horrible english) i do.

So why did I make this thread then? I don't hate you, I don't even know you, yet you treat me like this? I had not behaved in such ways deemed kick-able and if saying "I am better than you" is a reason to kick someone then maybe you shouldn't be an admin, considering if that was your position then your double standards couldn't be any clearer to the public, which when regarding decisions of using admin powers should be deemed damaging enough to have said powers removed.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 14, 2011, 10:17:45 pm
long text again -,-'

u made it because u couldnt take it that i kicked u and u thought it was unfair. i didnt and still dont think it was unfair. stop making a big thing out of it...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Dahobo on August 14, 2011, 10:22:24 pm
long text again -,-'

Do you ever read books?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Gnjus on August 14, 2011, 10:24:24 pm
Do you ever read books?

He is way too retarded to be reading anything, let alone books. I thought Pecores were a serious, mature clan but i was wrong. They recruit idiots and make them admins.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Phalanx300 on August 14, 2011, 10:26:56 pm
long text again -,-'

u made it because u couldnt take it that i kicked u and u thought it was unfair. i didnt and still dont think it was unfair. stop making a big thing out of it...

This guy is a admin?  :?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 14, 2011, 10:28:12 pm
long text again -,-'

u made it because u couldnt take it that i kicked u and u thought it was unfair. i didnt and still dont think it was unfair. stop making a big thing out of it...

So on one hand, you've got someone who's raging, insulting, swearing, on the other you've got someone who's defending themselves but without raging, without swearing and without pointless insulting, you'd kick the latter?

How on earth did anyone see admin potential in this person?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Gnjus on August 14, 2011, 10:35:06 pm
How on earth did anyone see admin potential in this person?

The French...........they'd probably see admin potential in Berenger, Balton & Cid as well.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 14, 2011, 10:42:23 pm
The French...........they'd probably see admin potential in Berenger, Balton & Cid as well.

FU.

I would be a good decent admin who would be unbiased (unlike several other few people who think being a admin is e-peen contest).


Too bad i just forum stalk and don't play this ''mod''.

Amirite? Also Balton would be perfect for admin as he would help the community to get into shape and turn their bodies into a living masterpiece.


And Cid...well cid..English teacher?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Mtemtko on August 14, 2011, 10:56:44 pm
Armbrust_Manne an admin, this is simply just retarded. if i remember correctly he got banned a while ago for tking and insulting some shogunates and for racism.
Yippi-ka-yay motherfuckers ill learn french join pecores and be an admin!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 14, 2011, 11:02:37 pm
Armburst an admin? Jesus fucking christ WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 14, 2011, 11:08:05 pm
FU.

I would be a good decent admin who would be unbiased (unlike several other few people who think being a admin is e-peen contest).


Too bad i just forum stalk and don't play this ''mod''.

Amirite? Also Balton would be perfect for admin as he would help the community to get into shape and turn their bodies into a living masterpiece.


And Cid...well cid..English teacher?
Once a count, always a count.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: [ptx] on August 14, 2011, 11:09:19 pm
Hey, at least he is trying to behave now, that he is an admin. If he weren't he would probably be back to his old ways and would that really be that much better? :d
...

Okay, i am shocked too  :lol:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on August 14, 2011, 11:10:40 pm
calm down all. I remember Armbrust beind a dick as well on a siege server many months ago. But maybe he's really trying to change his behaviour, so give him a chance.

However, on this incident it would of course have been more admin-like to give them both a warning to stop raging and then start kicking if they not listen. Your personal opinion of horses going into melee or whatever the exact matter was shouldn't count as admin. Try staying neutral as admin and calm down things instead of taking sides.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 14, 2011, 11:15:11 pm
Once a count, always a count.

Thx can i join Bandits now?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Guzzy on August 14, 2011, 11:22:49 pm
I remember some CS:S servers where you could be an admin if you paid about 10 bucks.


Which resulted in 11 year olds kicking and banning people they didn't like and didn't manage to kill,
but they were perfect sunshines when the server owner was on. If i'd be a server owner i'd put as admin someone i trust, who is experienced and old enough.

A bit offtopic but still..
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 14, 2011, 11:28:16 pm
Thx can i join Bandits now?

No, we already have Panos
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 14, 2011, 11:34:55 pm
No, we already have Panos

But...but..BUT PLEASE. I promise to shine yer shoes sire!!! And uhm uhm i'm no Greek! I won't throw gyros at u or dress naked talking about philosophy.

And ehm ehm i won't scream and TK u for buying sheep polearms.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 15, 2011, 12:56:32 am
Can you sing Beiber, or im a barby girl?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: DrTaco on August 15, 2011, 01:32:40 am
I love this forum.  :D
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tzar on August 15, 2011, 03:16:34 am
I love this forum.  :D

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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: DrTaco on August 15, 2011, 03:41:40 am
...No.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on August 15, 2011, 06:19:44 am
I take it English is his second language? If it is, I congradulate him on taking the time to learn another language, despite his disdain of reading.

If English is his primary language, he must be 12.

Regardless, I must declare that he rather handled the tking thing badly, and proves unable to effectively deal with the results of his actions. He lacks responsibility. I suggest strategus development be delayed until this issue* is resolved.

*Noone really cares, though.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 15, 2011, 06:37:22 am
Can you sing Beiber, or im a barby girl?

I can sing Barbieeee girl! Yes and also i can sing ehm...Pokerface!!!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on August 15, 2011, 10:30:22 am
If you want in you will have to beat Panos in a singing duel
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 15, 2011, 12:24:52 pm
If you want in you will have to beat Panos in a singing duel

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! I can beat that greek wannabe Bieber!

Also i can sing any croatian, bosnian, czech, serbian, gypsy song you want.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 12:27:06 pm
Anyway, this is the wrong section to post about it. We have the ban unban section for that. You are just trying to get pecores a bad reputation. And you know what , we don't care , server is full  18h/24h .
The fact is that you are not trying to get justice because if you wanted to , you would just have contacted an another admin to get the problem solved.
So here is a good place to put your topic visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 15, 2011, 01:03:21 pm
Anyway, this is the wrong section to post about it. We have the ban unban section for that. You are just trying to get pecores a bad reputation. And you know what , we don't care , server is full  18h/24h .
The fact is that you are not trying to get justice because if you wanted to , you would just have contacted an another admin to get the problem solved.

The only reason it's full is because the official ones lag atm  :lol:

If it's that full all the time then you need good admins, not ones who obviously can't make sensible decisions.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Siiem on August 15, 2011, 01:07:48 pm
a long text again im to lazy too read..

Maybe you shouldn't read TOO much into it then :lol:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 01:52:48 pm
Anyway, this is the wrong section to post about it. We have the ban unban section for that. You are just trying to get pecores a bad reputation. And you know what , we don't care , server is full  18h/24h .
The fact is that you are not trying to get justice because if you wanted to , you would just have contacted an another admin to get the problem solved.
So here is a good place to put your topic visitors can't see pics , please register or login


I don't have a problem with the Pecores clan, clearly the image of garbage you've posted is representative of trash being spoken by people like yourself? If so well done, at least you're partially honest.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 02:24:13 pm
I don't have a problem with the Pecores clan, clearly the image of garbage you've posted is representative of trash being spoken by people like yourself? If so well done, at least you're partially honest.

No, it was clearly directed towards you.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 02:51:39 pm
No, it was clearly directed towards you.

Nuffen, your repetitive trolling only reinforces my previous position, in the thread I created about your abuse of admin powers, accusing you of banning me because you hold a grudge against me, accusations you blankly deny yet contradict with your behaviour in this thread.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Braeden on August 15, 2011, 02:58:11 pm
I think nuffen was simply clarifying because you seemed confused.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 02:59:33 pm
Murmillus prime never do anything wrong, when he gets kicked its obiously the admins fault, always. Really dude, take a chill pill.

Clarification?

No, obvious trolling.

A general discussion about server administration, the abuses of such and then calls for responsible behaviour is not a topic which belongs with the trash, only those who perpetrate irresponsible behaviour in positions of significant responsibility belong in the trash.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Polobow on August 15, 2011, 03:10:41 pm
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I am not sure about his intentions of this post, but reading this thread makes me think the admin is bad for your server ( no offence ).
I thought you wanted to keep your server nicely organised? I am thinking this guy ruins that a little*.


*I assume this, only by reading this thread.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 03:47:32 pm
i didnt do anything wrong. he teamkilled and bumped and insulted Tzar as i recognized and i kicked him. he shall stop crying and watch his bumps and words next time.

and 'Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne' doesnt really sound like an unbiased threat about admin aboose.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 15, 2011, 03:53:08 pm
i didnt do anything wrong. he teamkilled and bumped and insulted Tzar as i recognized and i kicked him. he shall stop crying and watch his bumps and words next time.

and 'Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne' doesnt really sound like an unbiased threat about admin aboose.

You should have kicked Tzar if you were going to kick. Again, you can't favour one and not the other. Especially when the one that you kicked said sorry, and the other said fu.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 03:55:32 pm
Nuffen, your repetitive trolling only reinforces my previous position, in the thread I created about your abuse of admin powers, accusing you of banning me because you hold a grudge against me, accusations you blankly deny yet contradict with your behaviour in this thread.

You mean where I banned you after warning you _three times_ to stop teamwounding? Obiously, it cant have anything to do with all the bs you pulled back there, right? Its never about you, its always about everyone else, you are the victim, always, right?

i didnt do anything wrong. he teamkilled and bumped and insulted Tzar as i recognized and i kicked him. he shall stop crying and watch his bumps and words next time.

and 'Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne' doesnt really sound like an unbiased threat about admin aboose.

Ignore this guy, he is not able to take responsibility for his own action, and need someone else to blame when his action leads to him getting adminned.

You should have kicked Tzar if you were going to kick. Again, you can't favour one and not the other. Especially when the one that you kicked said sorry, and the other said fu.

Are you sure he saw Tzar doing anything wrong? He cant start kicking people on their word either, I mean that would be to favour someone!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 04:03:24 pm
the thing that murmillus sayd was much harder than simply 'fu' and of course murmillus knew i was going to kick him and took screenshots so it looks im the bad man, to cry in the forums with the idea to compensate the expirience that he was kicked on having properly x5.

now stop crying im doing serious work there...and yes i can favor one guy if i see exactly what the other does.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 15, 2011, 04:05:09 pm
Are you sure he saw Tzar doing anything wrong? He cant start kicking people on their word either, I mean that would be to favour someone!

Well taking in what we've heard from both sides, it sounds as though Murmillus tked Tzar, said sorry, Tzar said FU and went on a rage about cav. Murmillus replied with some insults himself and got kicked for it. Even though Tzar was just as in the wrong in my opinion. Tzar should have just accepted the apology and been done with it. And the fact the admin said 'dont worry Tzar ill kick him' kind of works against the admins favour. Sounds like he was pandering to Tzar.

Schtze...fu may not be as hard, but saying something like that in reply to an apology is just asking for trouble. You should have kicked them both for being idiots.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 04:08:02 pm
Sigh... I've already given my version of events, I can't make people believe me, but the server was full, maybe someone else saw what happened, as I never swore once and the only insulting thing I said to him was "I am better than you", is that idiotic behaviour? I'd call it douche-like behaviour but as it was in response to a rude insulting raging paragraph, I think the douche-like comment I made was well deserved.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 04:10:55 pm
You mean where I banned you after warning you _three times_ to stop teamwounding? Obiously, it cant have anything to do with all the bs you pulled back there, right? Its never about you, its always about everyone else, you are the victim, always, right?

Ignore this guy, he is not able to take responsibility for his own action, and need someone else to blame when his action leads to him getting adminned.

Are you sure he saw Tzar doing anything wrong? He cant start kicking people on their word either, I mean that would be to favour someone!

How many times do you have to claim you warned me three times, none of which were a kick, to which I did not take notice of because I was not aware of its existence, how can I ignore what I am not aware exists? To ignore something is to acknowledge it first then choose not to respond.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: SixThumbs on August 15, 2011, 04:31:48 pm
I barely read the first page but if you think the admins here are bad because god forbid you get kicked for a whole day be thankful it's not jedi academy.

I tried playing multiplayer and within 10 minutes I was surrounded by admins, who were standing off to the side in a free-for-all match with invincibility. Apparently they can lay you down and paralyze you, and then they're drilling me about if I know what 'laming' is because a guy in the main free-for-alling area started typing as I was swinging down on him.

I basically said it was a game and I'm not going to subscribe to their draconian meta-gaming rules and they could enjoy their now even smaller server. Is this the kind of thing we want to happen to warband!?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Spleen on August 15, 2011, 04:58:53 pm
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So...nuffen was a jedi academy admin?


I knew it! That much abooze isn't possible without going over to the dark side!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 05:50:58 pm
So...nuffen was a jedi academy admin?


I knew it! That much abooze isn't possible without going over to the dark side!

o.O
wtf is jedi academy?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Xant on August 15, 2011, 05:57:20 pm
o.O
wtf is jedi academy?

NICE TRY NUFFEN BUT THERE'S NO HIDING YOUR PAST!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 06:08:50 pm
yeah didnt warn...your insulting was enough to kick you immidiatly. stop whining now godness  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 06:12:34 pm
Three things.

1. Keeping Nuffen as admin is and will always be a mistake.  :lol:
 Unfortunately for us, he is the most active admin and while at least 1/3 of his decisions are all bad calls and badmining, the rest of his calls are by the book.

2. Excluding Nuffen, there are some really good admins on EU who rarely lose their cool and always make neutral and rational decisions. For this, be thankful. The devs together with the head admins all take their time to review each candidate, just so that you - the player - can enjoy your game.

3. Manne is an absolute dumbass.
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 06:14:01 pm
NICE TRY NUFFEN BUT THERE'S NO HIDING YOUR PAST!

Shhh, at least my past in the ATS is a secret!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 15, 2011, 07:21:54 pm
Since you are all children, predictable ones, I knew you would give me -1 votes. Simple reverse psychology... Tsk tsk, children, tsk tsk...[/spoiler]

Herpa derpa, derpa herp.


Also wtf ^.

ATS reject! This is shocking  :shock:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 07:40:16 pm
Anyone else waiting for Berengtard to get muted again?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 15, 2011, 07:42:55 pm
Been waiting for it for a while...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 15, 2011, 07:54:58 pm
You all just mad cuz i'm superior to y'all mad brahs!

On-topic: Does this mean i will also get admin on some server considering Schutze got 1?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 08:04:50 pm
Clarification?

No, obvious trolling.

A general discussion about server administration, the abuses of such and then calls for responsible behaviour is not a topic which belongs with the trash, only those who perpetrate irresponsible behaviour in positions of significant responsibility belong in the trash.
Pecores are watching their admin . We already punished by the past one of our admin because of abusing. But we do that only when the aim of the victim is to get justice and reparation for what he suffered. This is not the aim of this topic. The only purpose of this toppic is to try to make people shit on armbrust. And this is not the way we work. So no matter what did armbrust , i don't care because this is not the correct way to deal with the subject.
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I am not sure about his intentions of this post, but reading this thread makes me think the admin is bad for your server ( no offence ).
I thought you wanted to keep your server nicely organised? I am thinking this guy ruins that a little*.


*I assume this, only by reading this thread.
This post is not about admin power abusing. It is about a personal vendetta against armbrust. We can't tolerate that. So i say it again , this is the wrong way to do it , so we will not take the accusation in consideration.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 08:13:03 pm
Pecores are watching their admin . We already punished by the past one of our admin because of abusing. But we do that only when the aim of the victim is to get justice and reparation for what he suffered. This is not the aim of this topic. The only purpose of this toppic is to try to make people shit on armbrust. And this is not the way we work. So no matter what did armbrust , i don't care because this is not the correct way to deal with the subject.This post is not about admin power abusing. It is about a personal vendetta against armbrust. We can't tolerate that. So i say it again , this is the wrong way to do it , so we will not take the accusation in consideration.

Your loss.  :lol:

It's not like people are going to lose sleep over the fact that you're ignoring hard evidence of the incompetence of Armbrust_Manne. In the end, you decide what's best for your servers. If it's truly to let him keep his powers then I guess have it your way, you deserve whatever is going to be the outcome.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Overdriven on August 15, 2011, 08:15:22 pm
Considering the EU servers are now back and working again as well...so no more dealing with him any way lol
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 08:22:58 pm
Your loss.  :lol:

It's not like people are going to lose sleep over the fact that you're ignoring hard evidence of the incompetence of Armbrust_Manne. In the end, you decide what's best for your servers. If it's truly to let him keep his powers then I guess have it your way, you deserve whatever is going to be the outcome.

I didn't want to play this game but let's go : I don't see what you call hard evidence.
Screenshot 1 : He is apologizing for something. No proof of what he is apologizing for
Screenshot 2 : Armbrust is telling to someone that he will kick another one (obiously murmilus because he finally got kicked)
Screenshot 3: he got kicked.
So the screenshot don't say if he deserved it , it just make us understand that murmulis seemend to hae some problem with the tzar guy. Armbrust decided that murmilus was wrong, and we have nothing that can show that murmilus is not guilty.

I just wonder why this post didn't get in section pecores? Maybe because he was afraid that the lack of evidence would have got his demand refused?
As i said before this ragepost only belongs to TRASH
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 08:28:50 pm
Pecores are watching their admin . We already punished by the past one of our admin because of abusing. But we do that only when the aim of the victim is to get justice and reparation for what he suffered. This is not the aim of this topic. The only purpose of this toppic is to try to make people shit on armbrust. And this is not the way we work. So no matter what did armbrust , i don't care because this is not the correct way to deal with the subject.This post is not about admin power abusing. It is about a personal vendetta against armbrust. We can't tolerate that. So i say it again , this is the wrong way to do it , so we will not take the accusation in consideration.

Yeah sure, because my posts in this thread are full of Pecores hate right?... In-fact I enjoyed playing on Pecores after being unjustly banned on the EU servers, I thought it was nice to have another decent server to play on after being unfairly banned on another, but I guess there's so many admin's now, although most being decent admin's, some better than others, you're bound to find a few who shouldn't be admin's any more, it's just a shame that peoples friendships with these people who use their admin powers irresponsibly, allow themselves to judge others clouded by their friendship even when evidence is present of that irresponsibility or abuse.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordSnow on August 15, 2011, 08:31:45 pm
LOL OVERDRIVEN, YOU'RE FUNNY!

Tsss stop being a dumbass dude. Dont forget that this serv is our serv. And it's a privat serv, we respect cRPG rules but you have to respect OUR rules and our way to administrate it. We dont ask anyone to play with us. But dont forget that we pay it and we OFFER  a great serv to the cRPG community, powerfull and you'll always have a great ping on it if you're on EU. Stop crying about our admin now, go play elsewhere if you're unhappy.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 08:32:39 pm
Yeah sure, because my posts in this thread are full of Pecores hate right?... In-fact I enjoyed playing on Pecores after being unjustly banned on the EU servers, I thought it was nice to have another decent server to play on after being unfairly banned on another, but I guess there's so many admin's now, although most being decent admin's, some better than others, you're bound to find a few who shouldn't be admin's any more, it's just a shame that peoples friendships with these people who use their admin powers irresponsibly cloud their judgement even when evidence is present of that irresponsibility or abuse.
You are just not answering so let me ask again :
WHY THIS TOPIC HERE BUDDY
YOU TRIIN TO GET PEOPLE STONE TO DEATH ARMBRUST
*kikoolol mode off*
and about the evidence i gave an interpretation.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 08:33:10 pm
LOL OVERDRIVEN, YOU'RE FUNNY!

Tsss stop being a dumbass dude. Dont forget that this serv is our serv. And it's a privat serv, we respect cRPG rules but you have to respect OUR rules and our way to administrate it. We dont ask anyone to play with us. But dont forget that we pay it and we OFFER  a great serv to the cRPG community, powerfull and you'll always have a great ping on it if you're on EU. Stop crying about our admin now, go play elsewhere if you're unhappy.

I didn't break any rules. Only Armburst is trying to say I did to back-up his irresponsible actions instead of taking responsibility for his mistakes.

It's such a shame Armbursts behaviour is condoned, surely if I had acted as he said, then I wouldn't find myself making this thread.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 08:34:04 pm
I didn't want to play this game but let's go : I don't see what you call hard evidence.
Screenshot 1 : He is apologizing for something. No proof of what he is apologizing for
Screenshot 2 : Armbrust is telling to someone that he will kick another one (obiously murmilus because he finally got kicked)
Screenshot 3: he got kicked.
So the screenshot don't say if he deserved it , it just make us understand that murmulis seemend to hae some problem with the tzar guy. Armbrust decided that murmilus was wrong, and we have nothing that can show that murmilus is not guilty.

I just wonder why this post didn't get in section pecores? Maybe because he was afraid that the lack of evidence would have got his demand refused?
As i said before this ragepost only belongs to TRASH

I was not talking about the screenshots per se. You seem to have forgotten, there are 2, maybe 3 ban request threads on this moron. A person who has been banned this many times should not even be considered as a possible candidate for administrator.

Also, we're not "playing" a game; you are leaving out way too many points and arguments for that. I am and I was simply letting you know, that nobody cares nor will they try and argument against your decision to keep Armbrust_Manne as an admin on the Pecores servers. Any reaction you will get is most likely going to be decreasing server traffic, partly because of this (controversial) decision, and partly because Manne will keep repeating stuff like this.

And I doubt Murmillus posted here because he "knew" this belonged in the trash bin. I think he posted here because he knew Pecores would not do anything to investigate and/or re-consider Manne for admin. You pretty much proved him right with your reply, too.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 08:36:19 pm
some one else saw me massivly teamkilling, griefing, trolling or abusing admin rights? then pls tell us..

PS: forum admins, when is this shit moved or closed ? lol

and your kick wasnt a mistake murmillus, i kicked you because you harshly insulted the guy you teambumped and teamkilled before after he told you to watch your damn bumping. for me that is a kick.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 08:37:35 pm
PS: forum admins, when is this shit moved or closed ? lol

If I was in your shoes, I would want it closed too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 08:39:27 pm
its 7 pages people complaining about nothing in general discussions under the title "Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne" and this guy keeps and keeps crying...

and of course bjort needs to oil the fire.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 08:44:31 pm
some one else saw me massivly teamkilling, griefing, trolling or abusing admin rights? then pls tell us..

PS: forum admins, when is this shit moved or closed ? lol

and your kick wasnt a mistake murmillus, i kicked you because you harshly insulted the guy you teambumped and teamkilled before after he told you to watch your damn bumping. for me that is a kick.

If I had intentionally bumped him and team-killed him (by the way it happened at the same time as I was hoping to bump and lance an enemy but as people strafe the wrong person got hit), if I had not apologised, and then went on to insult him harshly as you claim, (please elaborate on what I said exactly because I don't remember swearing or raging atall), then I would have been deserving a kick.

Why not just own up? Be a man?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: LordBerenger on August 15, 2011, 08:45:01 pm
''You seem to have forgotten, there are 2, maybe 3 ban request threads on this moron''

Adding insults makes my argument look 1337. >  8-) <
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Bjord on August 15, 2011, 08:45:46 pm
Adding insults makes my argument look 1337. >  8-) <

At this point, "moron" is not an insult but a description. A very accurate one.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 08:55:02 pm
zeh dictionary says moron is an insult bjort  :wink:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: IG_Saint on August 15, 2011, 08:58:21 pm
So the screenshot don't say if he deserved it , it just make us understand that murmulis seemend to hae some problem with the tzar guy. Armbrust decided that murmilus was wrong, and we have nothing that can show that murmilus is not guilty.

Um, server logs? Those will show whether or not Murmillus did anything to deserve this.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 09:03:04 pm
I was not talking about the screenshots per se. You seem to have forgotten, there are 2, maybe 3 ban request threads on this moron. A person who has been banned this many times should not even be considered as a possible candidate for administrator.

Also, we're not "playing" a game; you are leaving out way too many points and arguments for that. I am and I was simply letting you know, that nobody cares nor will they try and argument against your decision to keep Armbrust_Manne as an admin on the Pecores servers. Any reaction you will get is most likely going to be decreasing server traffic, partly because of this (controversial) decision, and partly because Manne will keep repeating stuff like this.

And I doubt Murmillus posted here because he "knew" this belonged in the trash bin. I think he posted here because he knew Pecores would not do anything to investigate and/or re-consider Manne for admin. You pretty much proved him right with your reply, too.

It was a long way ago. He was banned 5 month. I did not grant him the admin power , i'm not and admin , i am the diplomat.

So we should totally ignore our netiquette , and our moral point of view , and only let server traffic rule instead us. This topic  is what is called in french "un vice de procedure" a translation may be : procedural error , technical irregularity.  For example if a police officer break into your house threaten you and find marijuana hidden in your cave , he can't attack you in justice because the way he got his proof is wrong.
So we're not planning to destitute Manne only because this topic.
For the future , if someone get Real Proofs that armbrust is offending the rule , and post this proof in the APPROPRIATE SECTION , we will take that in consideration. But this is not the case.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 09:07:45 pm
Um, server logs? Those will show whether or not Murmillus did anything to deserve this.
I'm not asking Connasse ( server owner) for logs until i get a decent post in the correct section (Pecores section).
You , EU admin have a game admin abooze section with STRICT rules (like the 48h one)  http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2430.msg40786.html#msg40786
So i consider the case closed and if armbrust or another pecores admin  do something wrong in the future and get a topic against him in the proper section we will reconsider is admin power.
Having mature admin is something important for us , because mature admin appeals mature player , and having mature player improve our game experience.

Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 09:31:15 pm
I'm not asking Connasse ( server owner) for logs until i get a decent post in the correct section (Pecores section).
You , EU admin have a game admin abooze section with STRICT rules (like the 48h one)  http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2430.msg40786.html#msg40786
So i consider the case closed and if armbrust or another pecores admin  do something wrong in the future and get a topic against him in the proper section we will reconsider is admin power.
Having mature admin is something important for us , because mature admin appeals mature player , and having mature player improve our game experience.

Logs will prove my innocence and prove Armburst the liar he is, unless they're doctored. Please post the logs without editing them.

Once he's proven a liar will you then re-consider your position? Or because now you've thrown your support behind Armburst, the Pecores will close ranks and do anything in their power to put me in the wrong even if it includes lying and altering evidence, because you too will be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Armbrust_Schtze on August 15, 2011, 09:33:34 pm
have phUn checking 2 days of server LOG! (=
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 09:34:45 pm
Logs will prove my innocence and prove Armburst the liar he is, unless they're doctored. Please post the logs without editing them.

Once he's proven a liar will you then re-consider your position? Or because now you've thrown your support behind Armburst, the Pecores will close ranks and do anything in their power to put me in the wrong even if it includes lying and altering evidence, because you too will be proven wrong.

I see that you refuse to post a request for the logs in the proper forum, even if you're told where that is. I guess that means your afraid of what they will show? :p
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 09:35:04 pm
have phUn checking 2 days of server LOG! (=

15th August, around mid-day give or take an hour GMT time.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: IG_Saint on August 15, 2011, 09:38:40 pm
have phUn checking 2 days of server LOG! (=

press ctrl-f, type in: i kick him tzar, hit enter. Unless you've said the phrase "i kick him tzar" multiple times (which would be rather disturbing by it self), you'll be taken right to the relevant part of the logs. There that didn't take long did it?

I do have to agree with nuffen though, Murmillus make a normal post in the pecores section if you want something done about this. This thread is just drama and name calling, nothing is going to be achieved here.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 09:52:07 pm
press ctrl-f, type in: i kick him tzar, hit enter. Unless you've said the phrase "i kick him tzar" multiple times (which would be rather disturbing by it self), you'll be taken right to the relevant part of the logs. There that didn't take long did it?

I do have to agree with nuffen though, Murmillus make a normal post in the pecores section if you want something done about this. This thread is just drama and name calling, nothing is going to be achieved here.

Recognition of a problem, incompetent players of questionable maturity being handed admin powers like it's candy, then tripping on the power they have, kicking anyone who's arguing or disagreeing with their friends, pressing the ban button when only a kick would have defused the situation, being able to troll members of the community and then being protected if they themselves are trolled and still retaining the powers of an admin. It's an issue that affects this community, not just me, not just the EU servers or the Pecores server and most likely the NA servers too.

Issues that affect the community, deserve to be discussed with the community.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 15, 2011, 09:54:45 pm
Issues that affect the community, deserve to be discussed with the community.

Ok, time to talk about how to stop trolls, lets start with you.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 15, 2011, 09:55:53 pm
It's an issue that affects this community, not just me, not just the EU servers or the Pecores server and most likely the NA servers too.

The Official NA servers are pure awesome sauce, hand picked by Shik.  :P
We are all perfect and don't mess up.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Polobow on August 15, 2011, 09:56:18 pm
If one wants to make the world perfect, one should start by himself. or something
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 10:25:29 pm
press ctrl-f, type in: i kick him tzar, hit enter. Unless you've said the phrase "i kick him tzar" multiple times (which would be rather disturbing by it self), you'll be taken right to the relevant part of the logs. There that didn't take long did it?

I do have to agree with nuffen though, Murmillus make a normal post in the pecores section if you want something done about this. This thread is just drama and name calling, nothing is going to be achieved here.
Perfect Ig Saint , you just made a summary of what i said since the begining.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 15, 2011, 10:28:22 pm
Ok, time to talk about how to stop trolls, lets start with you.

Give me a reason why I am a troll?

Since you started trolling me in this thread, I've got one reason to call you a troll.

Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 15, 2011, 10:41:36 pm
I don't rly care bout Murm's case but I want to ask admin in question one thing:

Why do you love admin chat so much? You know it's only for warning people and some occasional trolling, it's not meant to be communication tool between you and anyone you want to chat with :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 15, 2011, 10:44:12 pm
I don't rly care bout Murm's case but I want to ask admin in question one thing:

Why do you love admin chat so much? You know it's only for warning people and some occasional trolling, it's not meant to be communication tool between you and anyone you want to chat with :rolleyes:

Just to piss you off.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on August 15, 2011, 10:49:04 pm
maybe It's funny to play with the GOooooOOOd VooooIIIiccccceee
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 15, 2011, 11:07:16 pm
Just to piss you off.

He doesn't piss me off, he just shows how immature he is by doing that.

OFFTOPIC: Also I'm sad that brazillian thread got locked, I've had written excellent post which clarifies why brazillians aren't welcome in online games.

Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: B3RS3RK on August 16, 2011, 12:03:03 am

OFFTOPIC: Also I'm sad that brazillian thread got locked, I've had written excellent post which clarifies why brazillians aren't welcome in online games.

Gimme dat link!Wanna read some Brazilian bashing!
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 12:13:34 am
No I've been warned by an anonymous admin. I want him to show his face so I can send a message. Don't worry dear admin, I have the proper communication skills, no name calling just a clarification so that next time you warn me under asumption of racism you know where I'm standing and where are you in the whole picture (if you're german anyhow you simple have no right to tell others that they make racist remarks, especially not to someone who's coming from a country which were occupied by chocolate chip cookie Germany and fought for freedom of all mankind ;)).
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 16, 2011, 12:19:52 am
No I've been warned by an anonymous admin. I want him to show his face so I can send a message. Don't worry dear admin, I have the proper communication skills, no name calling just a clarification so that next time you warn me under asumption of racism you know where I'm standing and where are you in the whole picture (if you're german anyhow you simple have no right to tell others that they make racist remarks, especially not to someone who's coming from a country which were occupied by chocolate chip cookie Germany and fought for freedom of all mankind ;)).

So according to you if the government in power did something during the time of one's grandfather, then everyone past that must carry those sins and start losing rights? Like modern day germans for some reason not being allowed to call others racist? That is... racist.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 12:23:07 am
Guys, please this was not why the thread was created.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 16, 2011, 12:25:22 am
Guys, please this was not why the thread was created.

The thread was started for bullshitting, this is bullshitting, so ye, it is why the thread was created ;)
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 12:30:50 am
@Tears

That's not what I've said. I talking about how Austrians and Germans today like to racionalise and relativize behavior of their grandfathers. I've talked to some about that particular topic, it's really sad how they try to cover that up. They feel shame, that's ok by me. That is something people should never forget, no matter how some tried to cover it up and make it go away with the time.

I know history of most civilizations very well and I'm not afraid to talk about it and express my opinion. Some don't like to hear how things actually happened, they want to believe how they were "explorers", that racism is talking about something openly but not what their old did in the past (slavery, most now wealthy countries built their status on slavery and stealing from "weaker" countries).

Nowadays we're witnesses of crisis which won't go away. Why? Because to keep living like they are used to, citizens of wealthy countries have to go into war to steal some more. Problem is that there isn't much left to steal from the poor...

You can't call someone a racist without proper explanation, I take serious offense cause of that. My family don't have such history. Mine ancestors didn't steal, burn villages and took slaves in the past therefore if you want to call me racist better back it with some good argumentation.

Without it you're just asshole admin on some internet forum. Plenty of those on internet, just like kuyaks and pikes in c-rpg mod...

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Like modern day germans for some reason not being allowed to call others racist? That is... racist.

No that's not racism. Racism is when you treat a man like a dog just because of his skin color. When you treat him as different specie, that's racism. If racism was all about words, we wouldn't have to discuss this here cause no one would care about racism. Racism is about deeds, not just words.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 16, 2011, 12:36:12 am
@Tears

That's not what I've said.
This is what you said, word for word:
(if you're german anyhow you simple have no right to tell others that they make racist remarks, especially not to someone who's coming from a country which were occupied by chocolate chip cookie Germany and fought for freedom of all mankind ;)).
You can't call someone a racist without proper explanation, I take serious offense cause of that. My family don't have such history. Mine ancestors didn't steal, burn villages and took slaves in the past therefore if you want to call me racist better back it with some good argumentation.
Racism has nothing to do with your ancestors. Your ancestors can be a solid line of perfect saints, and it is still possible for you to be racist. Your ancestors can be a solid line of racists, and it is possible for you to be a saint.
Being racist is how you personally live, and making racist comments has nothing to do with your ancestors either. I don't think you are a racist, in all seriousness, but saying something like
(if you're german anyhow you simple have no right to tell others that they make racist remarks, especially not to someone who's coming from a country which were occupied by chocolate chip cookie Germany and fought for freedom of all mankind ;)).
is a racist comment. You are telling someone that they lose rights simply because they are german, so fuck them for being german they are not allowed to call someone a racist simply because they were born in germany. That is a racist comment.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 12:41:21 am
They lose rights? Which rights? To talk about racism and call other people racist. Sorry but they lost that right a long time ago.

By being born in Germany you have rights of german citizen, also you have responsibilities of german citizen.

I cannot easily become german citizen, so yeah, being born somewhere means a lot in this unjust world we're living in ;)

Edit:

Also germans aren't race, neither are latinos.

About brazillians and latinos I have perfect explanation, from personal eXPerience but I won't post it cause thread is locked. But I asure you has nothing to do with racism, it has something to do with bad ping, hacking and no desire to communicate in english with other people who aren't speaking spanish language.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 16, 2011, 12:44:24 am
They lose rights? Which rights? To talk about racism and call other people racist. Sorry but they lost that right a long time ago.

By being born in Germany you have rights of german citizen, also you have responsibilities of german citizen.

I cannot easily become german citizen, so yeah, being born somewhere means a lot in this unjust world we're living in ;)

So you are admitting that you are judging an entire people not on what each of them have done, but on what a couple of ancestors have done. Just because your great grandfather was an asshole does not mean you as his great grand child lose rights or should be judged because of that. If you do judge the great grandchild because of that, then you have done this in an unfair, unjust, and completely asshole of a fashion and are a total dick. This is not how the world demands things work, this is entirely You who are doing this kind of judging.

EDIT:
Edit:
About brazillians and latinos I have perfect explanation, from personal eXPerience but I won't post it cause thread is locked. But I asure you has nothing to do with racism, it has something to do with bad ping, hacking and no desire to communicate in english with other people who aren't speaking spanish language.

First off the OP of the locked thread was willing to speak in a non-spanish language. Secondly Brazilians speak Portuguese not Spanish. And are you seriously going to judge the entire brazilian online community because you met a couple of guys with "bad ping, hacking and no desire to communicate in english with other people who aren't speaking spanish language?" That is an amazing attitude...

And you still don't understand why you were hit with a 25% warning?
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 12:50:45 am
About these things I like to speak bluntly, I'm not politician.

Call me a dick but what your ancestors did in the past does matter a lot. Maybe not in the spiritual world (where our thoughts are) but in this physical world we're living in it's really important. Right now some child in Africa died not because (s)he's bad person, it's because ancestors put her on that ground where is no food and where personal health is in serious danger.

Edit: I stop here. I believe I well argument-ed my point of view. You don't have to like it, be a right winger nationalist, or live in barbie world illusion or think whatever you want just don't try to tell me I'm full of shit because I'm being honest and talking about things how they are in fact.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Different on August 16, 2011, 12:57:34 am
Nice offtopic there..

Well leshma, I agree withTears of Destiny. ( Get a shorter name )

I am german and my grandfather was in sibiria.

You cannot say that a person like ME a young 17 years old has anything to do that my grandfather maybe make a mistake at ?

It was definetly a very very big mistake, and we still pay for it.

But beside of the stuff we still pay and regret really, why am I not allowed to call someone a racist cause the NSDAP lead germany for a while and killed many ( and much more worse) ? When I say the truth probably ? I woud never assume anyone wrong about that, cause its a sensitive matter ..
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: B3RS3RK on August 16, 2011, 12:58:10 am
Sorry Leshma, but from which country are you?

No offense to you Bro, but it must be some Vanilla-paradise Wonderland.

There were People in ANY country in the World robbing, stealing and murdering.

It´s just that some did it earlier, some later, some more excessive and some not.

chocolate chip cookie-germany is the most popular and one of the later examples of this.Not to forget it´s bound to a world war.

I don´t want to relativize what my Grandfathers did(Mine did actually nothing as he was forced into the Wehrmacht and got imprisonated in Italia without ever firing a shot, but that´s not the point), and I can´t see where People from my country do that.To be true, Most people I see are still ashamed of this and are EXTREMELY careful about what they say and what they do.The german Government regularly supports Israel big time because they feel somewhat guilty(Though gifting them Submarines and Tanks isn´t the right way imo).

It just happened in the last few years that liberal and normal people begin to feel some patriotism again(Before the Football world championship in 2006 you earned strange and mad looks when having a german flag at your house or anywhere else).

Why, oh why cant we germans just have some pride for our country?It´s not like we are pride about the Holocaust or WWII.The whole world is goddamn patriotic but we aren´t allowed to because there was a horrible, horrible happening in the past?You know thats not fair!

Turks still have a lot of Pride for their country, yet they made the Armenian genocide
Serbians still have pride, yet there was the massacre of Srebrenica

List could go on for a while.

Fact is, the Holocaust and WWII were probably the most horrible genocide ever to happen in the past.Still it´s not fair to let the Son bleed for the mistakes of his father.
....

This post has gotten longer and somewhat more serious than I wanted it to.

Anyway, I think we should get over that.You just can´t hate people for what their ancestors did.

I like people from all over the world, not regarding their Race, Homeland or physical and mental abilitys.The only thing that matters is if you are a Douchebag or if you are not.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 12:59:07 am
The thread was started for bullshitting, this is bullshitting, so ye, it is why the thread was created ;)

Two reasons to call you a troll.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:05:07 am
This thread should be locked now, it's been completely derailed, however I think my point has been made.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:06:05 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 01:07:05 am
Well, I must admit I was too sharp there. It was more my rage talking from me, I don't really think that about all German people. But the thing is I'm greatly offended because someone made an assumption that I'm a racist. I was born in multicultural country, survived a civil war and I do not like when people call me racist. I saw racism with my own eyes. In my opinion it's all about deeds. You younger people from wealthier countries luckily haven't had the chance to witness it for yourself and you think that whever someone says something negative about members of certain nation, it means it's racism.

Latinos and online gaming has little to with racism but chinese people and online gaming. Most of that is about racism. But I won't go there.

@Berserk

I do not hate anyone. But I won't go silent about certain topics just because someone is offended by that particular topic. Especially when I'm provoked like I was.

Yeah you should lock the topic. People will dislike me for what I said, should be a little easier on words but my point stays. Treatment of racism in most western countries is wrong, it's put under carpet, they rarely do want to talk about it. That's not how you resolve things, it just makes them worse.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:07:57 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: nuffen on August 16, 2011, 01:13:55 am
This thread should be locked now, it's been completely derailed, however I think my point has been made.

1. Under the thread, it says lock thread. Press it to lock it.

2. Yes, we know to not take you serious when you scream wolf wolf the 3rd time either. :)
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:14:28 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 01:14:37 am
Uhm, I totally forgot about something. Is there a chance that this discussion could get this forum into jeopardy? If so maybe it's better to delete it. Didn't think of that one on time...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:16:55 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Different on August 16, 2011, 01:17:38 am
popcorngasm
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:22:23 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:24:40 am
1. Under the thread, it says lock thread. Press it to lock it.

2. Yes, we know to not take you serious when you scream wolf wolf the 3rd time either. :)

I don't cry wolf, I am a wolf.

Three reasons to call you a troll. Keep going bro.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:24:49 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:29:58 am
WHERE ARE THE LOGS?!  :evil:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Leshma on August 16, 2011, 01:30:05 am
Since this is probably teen forum.. see ya in a week or never :wink:
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 16, 2011, 01:30:33 am
You younger people from wealthier countries luckily haven't had the chance to witness it for yourself and you think that whever someone says something negative about members of certain nation, it means it's racism.

Have you been in the south of American where blacks can still be driven out of some communities, people lynched or shot etc, and some nutjob towns still proudly fly the dixie flag? I live here, and I see it. But thank you for the assumption that we have not had the chance to witness it for ourselves. And let me not even get started on how some places treat Mexicans here...

But ok, fine whatever. I shall consider myself "lucky" for the shit I have not seen.

Murmillus_Prime, bottom left of this thread there is a button called "lock" and you can click it yourself and not have to wait.
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: VVarlord on August 16, 2011, 01:31:05 am
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Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:32:33 am
I WIN
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:34:28 am
lol
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 16, 2011, 01:35:17 am
This thread should be locked now, it's been completely derailed, however I think my point has been made.
lol
So you lock your thread, then unlock it seconds later? Confusing...
Title: Re: Sigh yet more admin abuse, Pecores_Armbrust_Manne
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on August 16, 2011, 01:36:19 am
So you lock your thread, then unlock it seconds later? Confusing...

An admin who could clear this mess up by posting some logs, could have prevented this thread from turning into the abomination it has become, but has not. Confusing.........

Nuffen is an idiot and retains his admin, in this thread has proven he is one, Confusing..........

This thread wasn't about Germany, racism or any of the such and yet it's here.... Confusing......

I apparently created this thread because I hate pecores, according to some posts, yet I even praised the server and some of the admins there...... CONFUSING.......

I apparently, according to Nuffen I created this thread because I'm trying to get all admins to have their rights stripped and because I like to troll, yet I've created this thread for a legitimate reason with evidence included... CONFUSING..