ill get str8 to the pointI read this as, "I'll get strength eight to the point"
all the shit about cav being OP is crap theres valid counterarguments to every arguement for that statementNo, I did not know that about you! But I guess I should have known you like fire, with you being a dragon and all.
explain how cav are op
im not talking about plated chargers
i mean light cav
First off, there was no room to deny the overpoweredness of heavy cavalry before. There was no room to dispute that a terrible player with heavy cavalry could suddenly rack up more kills than the best of players could on foot. How do we know this? Because it happened.
You have no skill, live with it, its only a fucking videogame, nothing important, but stop crying about a class you can take out of the game with simply blocking down and some footwork. Lamer.No, because I am a Walmart Ninja.
Its actually commen sense to talk only about things you have some experience with.
lawl noob I have plenty of screens where my footman wears no armor (only Leather Jacket and Woolen Hose), using pike and long voulge and I have a k d of 10 and most of these screens I was low level (17, 19 perhaps).
Same with my alt who is also low level I use only a sword (Nodachi, longsword, katana, miadao etc.), no armor.
Same for Kesh, start to play a class that needs some skill before you waste our time with your ignorant posts.
Its actually commen sense to talk only about things you have some experience with.
Ah, I think its fine.
We cav are simply the better players, the handicapped footmen need all help the devs can offer to have some sort of a chance against us.
The Palfrey or what is name is is not that bad. I am doing (almost) same as with Courser or Sarranid.
My beloved elephant is gone, forever, but meh, I have just bought Mameluke horse well I have to test it later the day otherwise I am okay with Palfrey.
lawl noob I have plenty of screens where my footman wears no armor (only Leather Jacket and Woolen Hose), using pike and long voulge and I have a k d of 10 and most of these screens I was low level (17, 19 perhaps).
Same with my alt who is also low level I use only a sword (Nodachi, longsword, katana, miadao etc.), no armor.
I pwn you sucker with the wooden stick if I must to make you clueless idiots finally shut up.
Seriously, what can you do wrong with blocking down??????????????????????????
The only chance cavalry has to kill my footmen is when
its the end of the round and I get gangbanged but then I die anyway.
When you are too dumb to be aware, look around, get isolated from your team, then you deserve to die, because you are shit. Thats the truth.
You have no skill, live with it, its only a fucking videogame, nothing important, but stop crying about a class you can take out of the game with simply blocking down and some footwork. Lamer.
Same for Kesh, start to play a class that needs some skill before you waste our time with your ignorant posts.
Its actually commen sense to talk only about things you have some experience with.
Light cavalry should be viable every round with light armour. I have yet to roll a cavalry character post-patch and test it, but if it's not, well, it should be.
Edit: Why do sumpters now cost more than Palfrey's? Sumpters still suck horribly, but cost 8000
lawl noob I have plenty of screens where my footman wears no armor (only Leather Jacket and Woolen Hose), using pike and long voulge and I have a k d of 10 and most of these screens I was low level (17, 19 perhaps).
Same with my alt who is also low level I use only a sword (Nodachi, longsword, katana, miadao etc.), no armor.
Cav is fine as it is, it's normal to be a lot more expensive to play cav than infantry, after all cavalry are supposed to be elite troops, not everyone should have a horse. The change brought by the upkeep system is that noob cav can't own anymore because they don't afford to upkeep their heavy horses. Cav is still very strong, just look at players like DimaUrban or Oberyn, they always get crazy 10:1 k/d and they use light horses and medium armor.
We need more monies n' shit.earn it
Light cavalry should be viable every round with light armour. I have yet to roll a cavalry character post-patch and test it, but if it's not, well, it should be.
Kalam! It should be... but right now, wearing only a white tunic with mail, mail chausses, no helmet, no gloves, heavy lance, Steel Pick backup, and heirloomed Norman shield - I cannot make money on a Sarranid. I can play about 5 rounds before I'm down several thousand gold and have to go Pilgrim Robe peasant again...
Huey, I'm glad you made a thread, man. I've been feeling the same way.
- Horse Charge was OP and needed a nerf.
- Armored Cav was OP (because of Horse Charge + armor) and needed a nerf.
- Light Cav was never a problem. Look at one angrily and it will drop dead. Working as intended.
- The cost of Light Cav needs to be lowered.
Kalam! It should be... but right now, wearing only a white tunic with mail, mail chausses, no helmet, no gloves, heavy lance, Steel Pick backup, and heirloomed Norman shield - I cannot make money on a Sarranid.
I don't. I played a lot this weekend, and don't think I ever saw more than 5 other cav on my team.
Kalam! It should be... but right now, wearing only a white tunic with mail, mail chausses, no helmet, no gloves, heavy lance, Steel Pick backup, and heirloomed Norman shield - I cannot make money on a Sarranid. I can play about 5 rounds before I'm down several thousand gold and have to go Pilgrim Robe peasant again...
Huey, I'm glad you made a thread, man. I've been feeling the same way.
- Horse Charge was OP and needed a nerf.
- Armored Cav was OP (because of Horse Charge + armor) and needed a nerf.
- Light Cav was never a problem. Look at one angrily and it will drop dead. Working as intended.
- The cost of Light Cav needs to be lowered.
Therefore: Cavalry, if built right, and played right will always be effective.
Should think about making the sumpter really cheap, then you could use that as a way to make money while still using the skills you invested in or a new player could use it to learn how to handle cav.
If chadz is worried about game balance then he should change the horses stats even lower, but to try to get there by making them prohibitively expensive is the wrong way to get balance. Light cavalry should be 5-10% of the people on a server at any given time, but right now completely absent on most servers for hours at atime. At the very least make a reasonably priced alternative like reducing rouncey's stats slightly and making it only 5000 gold, dont understand why all the light cav horses were increased in price with last patch, just need to reduce horse stats or make riding skill 1 every 5 or 6 agility. I miss having cav to shoot.
Come on man, you know you're overreaching by suggesting we all ride Light Cav essentially naked.
I think the sumpter would give you bad habits, it is a really bad horse.
I see...lots of Cav, as many as before, and I see the occasional Panzer Tank horse even. So...wut?
Agreed, there are at least 7-8 cav on each side every map, more if there is a cav-friendly map (and these days most maps are). How come these people can afford playing cav and don't come to cry on forum?
people who own fiefs in strat dont have to pay as much upkeep as those who dont
It was an appropriate response to your long straw man argument.
Who said they wanted their Grade A gear AND the horses each round? I didn't. Huey didn't. Hell, I even said that with only a white tunic over mail and a melee weapon in case of dishorsing, I'm losing money fast.
We understand the concept of low-upkeep gear.
We're saying the cost of unarmored horse upkeep is too high. Simple enough?
You're wrong plain and simple and yet all you do is put your fingers in your ears and sing "lalalalalalalal im not listening"Their numbers don't match what I'm seeing ingame. I'm calling it like it is for me, not trying to tell other players they're wrong.
Their numbers don't match what I'm seeing ingame. I'm calling it like it is for me, not trying to tell other players they're wrong.
We're saying the cost of unarmored horse upkeep is too high. Simple enough?
I told you to take Courser, naked (not even shield), with Heavy Lance and a fork. You could've at least tried and said it's not working.
Yes, 43k worth of gear is mid-high without a doubt.
Yes, 43k worth of gear is mid-high without a doubt.
This is your solution? Play naked?
Wow.
currently the advantage they give to the player is nowhere near the worth of the item.
Right now, we have 1 or 2 horses everywhere
I'm a HA and I can barely upkeep my nomad set (828g) Steppe Horse (12k) Short Bow (1.7k) No melee weapon, no gloves. If they increases the bow cost, what am I going to use to shoot arrows? My fists?
How about 18,381, after the horse is removed? That's what you're calling high-end gear? Again... wow.
Ok, done here. Thanks for the input!
i think people should be able to afford to play as light cav
light cav to me is pretty much the cheapest few horses some light armour a shield a lance and maybe a cheap back up weapon
forgive me but i think most of the bows should increase in cost significantly too - if their killing potential stays the same as it is now
Light cav being sustainable would be nice, sure. But heavy cav should stay dead except for the once in a blue moon "fuck it" scenarios. And Kesh, you should know by now to ignore everything that terribad Finished/Michael says. Possibly one of the worst players, trolls and posters to ever taint the mod.
I mean, I´d like to be able to use my Destrier every Round, but I can´t, even when I go naked, and this seems to be what chadz intended.Play as cheap-ass Soldier for a shitload of rounds and then play as Heavy Cavalry or whatever you like for a few.
This in my opinion sums up the problems with the current installment of the mod. chadz solved people grinding to high gear by.... forcing EVERYONE to grind just to be able to use mid-gear.I don't think you are really forced to do that. The good part of the system is that all players are on even ground, so you can do very good with mid-level-gear (which is affordable). On melee I have much fun with great sword, barbutte, mail mittens and studded leather over mail and earn good money with it. More than enough to use heavy armour here and there and buying new items.
God forbid if you start a new character, save up your money for that one item you want more than anything else, spend every last penny, and have it break the first round you use it.
This in my opinion sums up the problems with the current installment of the mod. chadz solved people grinding to high gear by.... forcing EVERYONE to grind just to be able to use mid-gear.
Remember when I said terrible players topping the scoreboard because of their OP horses? Meet terrible player!
Finn, I'd just like to let you know, the epic proportions of your awfulness is not bound by the atlantic ocean and tales of how terrible a player you really are well known even in America. That has GOT to tell you something :lol:
Wow, I knew this guy was a complete idiot, but i never realized before just how undeservedly arrogant he is too. If you must know I have played cav quite a bit with my alt, and yes it is way too expensive. Do you really expect people to think youa re a good player simply because you brag about how many people you kill. All I have seen you ever do is maybe trample people a bit with an elephant but then die really quickly once dehorsed. Huey is actually a great cavalry fighter and uses light cav to get his kills and his argument is extremely reasonable, just because you know how to trample doesnt make youa cavalry expert Michael, Finn, whatever..
Light cavalry should be viable every round with light armour. I have yet to roll a cavalry character post-patch and test it, but if it's not, well, it should be.
As for Finn/Michael...EU has to put up with him but we've got Thulsa Doom. Speaking of which, I haven't really seen that douche around...
My heavy plated charger agrees with this notion.
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yo what movie is this from?