Does anybody know how it worked before, in old old Strategus? Was the NA Strat server always shared with the 100 and 80 man? If so, was performance an issue? (Short of one's personal client-side issues of course.) An interesting discussion!
Soooo... read the devilize story. ???
As additional info:
Head Admin will most likely be Shik, who has a good knowledge of the NA community and will handpick a set of admins that are capable of keeping the server what it is supposed to be: a neutral and fair playing ground.
We better get NA yellow pip admins for this. Shik should pin some on hs choices! Oh and make Tydeus an admin, he is impartial and patient.Official North American ServersRead below for more information..
So chadz asked me to post here to announce something to you guys, since you brought this thread up yourself.
For the last couple weeks I've been in talks with chadz to organize a set of servers for both, Battle, Siege, and Strategus that are officially endorsed by chadz, and his entire staff of official admins. This was only being discussed due to the fact there were no "official" servers for North America, unlike the European servers, which are official.
So long story short: I'm going to be throwing up a well-specced box (I'm a little too lazy to use multiple ones, deal with it) and paying for it, off this box the official North American servers will be hosted on it. The new official North American servers will be a..
Battle Server, Siege Server, and the official Strategus Server, slots for each of these servers is still being decided.
The servers and their entirety will be run and moderated by chadz and his team of moderators, these servers are completely neutral, and I have no control over them whatsoever. Remember: they are run by chadz, not me.
Consider this my gift to the community.
The servers are estimated to go up sometime next week, we'll see if the payment goes through without complications, but I'm estimating it for sometime next week. Just stick to the fact, this is a reality, and it is coming when it comes, I'll try to be as speedy as possible.
Remember, these are official servers run by chadz and his moderation teams, not run by me.
We better get NA yellow pip admins for this. Shik should pin some on hs choices! Oh and make Tydeus an admin, he is impartial and patient.Umm..yellow pip means what?
Umm..yellow pip means what?On the forum it shows that yuo are officially an admin.
On the forum it shows that yuo are officially an admin.Derp :D. I wish Ecko's admins had it haha
We better get NA yellow pip admins for this. Shik should pin some on hs choices! Oh and make Tydeus an admin, he is impatient and partial.
uhm, i remember something about a certain someone hijacking a server and banning random people? or did i just imagine that?This will not be run by classical. There is no correlation between your point and the topic at hand.
uhm, i remember something about a certain someone hijacking a server and banning random people? or did i just imagine that?
This will not be run by classical. There is no correlation between your point and the topic at hand.uhm, no need to get defensive, but... giving the keys to the server to a guy who is known for taking a password to another server, defacing it and banning random people? that doesnt sound like the smartest move i've ever seen.
He's got the keys now and is giving them to a responsible sober driver. You've got your car analogy backwards.
uhm, no need to get defensive, but... giving the keys to the server to a guy who is known for taking a password to another server, defacing it and banning random people? that doesnt sound like the smartest move i've ever seen.It was factual not defensive. He is more paying for the keys then using them, especially since official servers have admin tied to CD keys not simple stealable passwords.
It was factual not defensive. He is more paying for the keys then using them, especially since official servers have admin tied to CD keys not simple stealable passwords.
uhm... i dont mean to offend, if you host the damn thing, you dont need the password to ban people etc. Just edit the ban list or edit the settings or do what you please.
Trust Wooki, he owns servers...
Still after being banned forever I think he learnt his lesson :/
uhm... i dont mean to offend, if you host the damn thing, you dont need the password to ban people etc. Just edit the ban list or edit the settings or do what you please.Now, why would someone go through the trouble to do something like that after all the work it is probably going to take to set it up, thus making all that work meaningless.
Trust Wooki, he owns servers...I get his points but any potential damage would be limitet to only those servers, & chadz already made his decision and I trust him too. NA needs these servers. Remember that this is zealots money not some random server.
Still after being banned forever I think he learnt his lesson :/
I get his points but any potential damage would be limitet to only those servers, & chadz already made his decision and I trust him too. NA needs these servers. Remember that this is zealots money not some random server.
Well no, it wouldnt be limited there. If it gets fucked up, chadz can maybe ignore it, which would be fucked up. Or if he does something about it, like abandon the servers there, it would kill of NA strategus until new servers were running.
NA already has servers, I still dont see what was wrong with Ecko's servers, strategus used to on those too.
Well no, it wouldnt be limited there. If it gets fucked up, chadz can maybe ignore it, which would be fucked up. Or if he does something about it, like abandon the servers there, it would kill of NA strategus until new servers were running.
NA already has servers, I still dont see what was wrong with Ecko's servers, strategus used to on those too.
Because guess what, ecko is ATS, and guess who fights in there? ATS.
Guess how many complains chadz got because of ATS Aboozing, lots.
He's just an ex-con trying to go straight and get his kids back.
and eu didnt have abusers (lol me).
so you are saying, ATS has abuser admins, yet a guy who not only abused but also stole the password, thats the better alternative? Not to mention that ecko said long ago Strategus Administration and Normal Servers would be seperated.
btw, i do remember participating in strategus battles on ecko's servers. It was normal laggy for me.
That was back in december. They ahve 3 new servers running on the same box adn the alg is pretty bad right now, even without a large startegus battle running on same box at same time. I amdsuggetsing trying to go play now during NA prime time, december isn't really relevant.
He didn't steal the password. It was given to him, then in a night of drunken rage he logged on and did some stupid things.And we should be clear: He was really, really drunk. He's usually not an idiot, and since then he's actually been trying very hard to improve the reputation of LLJK and NA-CRPG as a whole. His motives for doing this aren't malicious, he genuinely wants an entirely neutral server run by chadz, free of all clan ties.
Weren't members of LLJK distancing themselves from Zealot when took the admin passwords? I could have sworn that people were saying that zealot had been banned from the LLJK server as well for other grievances...You're probably thinking of hellowrold, who was caught hacking and was pretty much disowned as a result. Zealot's actions (and the repercussions that followed) were met with a little amusement, but were not condoned in the slightest. He wasn't banned from TX_Battle, but only because he's an institution and also runs our Duel/Special Event server.
I'd like to think of myself as not one to hold grudges (this is the internet after all) but I'm also aware of propagoonda and I don't totally buy this whole 'zealot is trying to reform!' side as much as 'zealot is trying to stick it to Ecko'.Initially I thought much as you do, but from what he's said in TS and in his posts (both on SA and our private forums), it seems he's honestly just trying to make nice and improve both his image and the community. I don't blame you for your suspicions and don't expect to change your mind, but there it is.
You're probably thinking of hellowrold, who was caught hacking and was pretty much disowned as a result. Zealot's actions (and the repercussions that followed) were met with a little amusement, but were not condoned in the slightest. He wasn't banned from TX_Battle, but only because he's an institution and also runs our Duel/Special Event server.mah bad, edited my post.
Initially I thought much as you do, but from what he's said in TS and in his posts (both on SA and our private forums), he's honestly just trying to make nice and improve his image. I don't blame you for your suspicion, but there it is.
He would quite literally be the last person on the list of choices of people to manage the server. I don't care how drunk you say he was, you are still responsible for your actions.Zealot's never tried to weasel out of the consequences of what he did, or tried to pass the blame on to someone else. He's taken full responsibility for what he did. He even says he agreed with Ecko's banning of himself.
Zealot's never tried to weasel out of the consequences of what he did, or tried to pass the blame on to someone else. He's taken full responsibility for what he did. He even says he agreed with Ecko's banning of himself.
What he's trying to do right now is do something for the NA community (whether to rehabilitate his image or out of charity or whatever), and people are acting like he just made sweet salty love to their grandmother.
people are acting like he just made sweet salty love to their grandmother.
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So let me get this thought down right. If i punch you in the face, then the next day ask you for your car, you would give it to me?
This is the dumbest fucking idea i ever heared, and if it is not a huge troll then this whole idea is fail
So let me get this thought down right. If i punch you in the face, then the next day ask you for your car, you would give it to me?I'm not sure why you decided to post this in both threads. Do you actually think it is insightful or something? It's entirely disconnected from the scenario at hand.
This is the dumbest fucking idea i ever heared, and if it is not a huge troll then this whole idea is fail
So where is the new server going to be located? Texas seems to have slightly better ping for the west coast than Chicago.
Not that it's even up for debate but what's the harm in Zealot just paying for a server? People are still going to be playing on Ecko's servers 90% of the time.
I mean... "What's the worst that could happen?" - Knute 2010-2011
"I've got a bad feeling about this..."hey, but everyone loves jar jar in star wars
-All of Star Wars
So let me get this thought down right. If i punch you in the face, then the next day ask you for your car, you would give it to me?
This is the dumbest fucking idea i ever heared, and if it is not a huge troll then this whole idea is fail
It will be paid by Classical not run by him.If classical has access to the server box, it is run by him. That's the problem. He has access to everything if he pays for it.
If classical has access to the server box, it is run by him. That's the problem. He has access to everything if he pays for it.+1
If classical has access to the server box, it is run by him. That's the problem. He has access to everything if he pays for it.
Not.. if... he ... uses... paypal... to... GIVE MONEY TO chadz....
fucking hell...
I am such a god damned genius for thinking shit through.
So let me get this thought down right. If i punch you in the face, then the next day ask you for your car, you would give it to me?
This is the dumbest fucking idea i ever heared, and if it is not a huge troll then this whole idea is fail
Nono, I punch you in your face. Next day I give you my car as compensation. Still dont want it? o.O
Not.. if... he ... uses... paypal... to... GIVE MONEY TO chadz....IF he simply gives money to chadz and IF the dev team, and dev team alone, runs the server box, that's not too bad. I still don't see why the current NA server is going down. But Destiny, that's not what I understand Classical to be doing. He's going to control the box: maps, server files, ban lists, everything. Do you want more goon banning sprees? Do you want more gay bundle of stickss ruining strategus battles? Why, when we already have a well admined server? Its just because of some butthurt goons who got banned for being what they are: trolling, spamming, greifing goons.
fucking hell...
I am such a god damned genius for thinking shit through.
IF he simply gives money to chadz and IF the dev team, and dev team alone, runs the server box, that's not too bad. I still don't see why the current NA server is going down. But Destiny, that's not what I understand Classical to be doing. He's going to control the box: maps, server files, ban lists, everything. Do you want more goon banning sprees? Do you want more gay bundle of stickss ruining strategus battles? Why, when we already have a well admined server? Its just because of some butthurt goons who got banned for being what they are: trolling, spamming, greifing goons.
And yet somehow... every time chadz or Classical talks about it... they say that chadz and crew will be running it, and only Shik and his elected deputies will have control, and that Classical will not have control and will not "run" the servers and only pay for it...
I feel especially retarded right now as I think I am reading English explanations yet there is a lot of stuff I am apparently missing here.
IF he simply gives money to chadz and IF the dev team, and dev team alone, runs the server box, that's not too bad. I still don't see why the current NA server is going down. But Destiny, that's not what I understand Classical to be doing. He's going to control the box: maps, server files, ban lists, everything.
Do you want more goon banning sprees? Do you want more gay bundle of stickss ruining strategus battles? Why, when we already have a well admined server? Its just because of some butthurt goons who got banned for being what they are: trolling, spamming, greifing goons.
Seriously, what is the deal with ATS and calling everyone that disagrees with them bundle of stickss? Are you guys seriously that hard up on homophobia? You have a no racisim rule on your servers but will immediately call Goons bundle of stickss or in Gorath's case, newmy old friends.
Mate, I know how servers are run. The guy who pays almost always gets access to the server box. Unless Classical goes out of his way to NOT have access, he will control everything. Thus, my point stands.
Please go back and read where it says chadz and the dev team picked the admins of the server. The ones who have nothing to do with LLJK, you know. All the decisions would go through them and Cahdz, not Classical. You can't really be that bad at understanding he won't be managing this in any sense other than the payment?
Seriously, what is the deal with ATS and calling everyone that disagrees with them bundle of stickss? Are you guys seriously that hard up on homophobia? You have a no racisim rule on your servers but will immediately call Goons bundle of stickss or in Gorath's case, newmy old friends.It was'a part of ma milit'ry trainin' I cana help it.
Mate, I know how servers are run. The guy who pays almost always gets access to the server box. Unless Classical goes out of his way to NOT have access, he will control everything. Thus, my point stands.
It was'a part of ma milit'ry trainin' I cana help it.(click to show/hide)
As additional info:
Head Admin will most likely be Shik, who has a good knowledge of the NA community and will handpick a set of admins that are capable of keeping the server what it is supposed to be: a neutral and fair playing ground.
Not.. if... he ... uses... paypal... to... GIVE MONEY TO chadz....
fucking hell...
I am such a god damned genius for thinking shit through.
Yuri unnie, no need to get so worked up over this! We need to stay sharp for our fans!
SNSD Hwaiting! <3
chadz directly saying it will be his hand picked staff, not Classical running things. How much clearer do you want it to be? If Classical did anything even remotely sketchy, the plug would be pulled instantly and fixed by chadz and his crew. Can you really not see this, or are you too busy blindly listening to Ecko?
IF he simply gives money to chadz and IF the dev team, and dev team alone, runs the server box, that's not too bad. I still don't see why the current NA server is going down. But Destiny, that's not what I understand Classical to be doing. He's going to control the box: maps, server files, ban lists, everything. Do you want more goon banning sprees? Do you want more gay bundle of stickss ruining strategus battles? Why, when we already have a well admined server? Its just because of some butthurt goons who got banned for being what they are: trolling, spamming, greifing goons.
Nah he's just gonna take all your money again :twisted:
Wasn't that Devilize?O.O dude i thought you stoped playing lol
Oh right, denial that it ever happened...forgot...carry on!
O.O dude i thought you stoped playing lol
It is funny that one of the only people that have a problem with this is one of ecko's most abusive and downright stupid admins: CtrlaltDel1337.
I got banned by this guy after getting unbanned by Ecko/Gorath after pointing out their tendency to over look some of the ATS player names that included "rape" among other bad slurs. Yet my name was always unacceptable and I got banned for it even though my behavior was fine and I never did anything wrong.
Do not listen to anything CtrlAltDe1337 says. He is too blinded by goon hatred to formulate anything intelligent and unfortunately does not understand that he might be part of the reason this is happening.
I would be lying if I say I do not enjoy reading all these bitch posts. CtrlAltDe1337 you made my day :).
AND Thanks chadz.
CtrlAltDe1337 is a great admin, I think you're not giving the whole story. A lot of ATS are good admins, which is why I don't mind them controlling the server. Sure there may have been a few bad apples but that's no reason to generalize ATS as a whole. Ecko does his best to keep NA servers running to the best to his ability. Move along troll.
There is perception and then the truth, sadly most people do not distinguish between the two.
If the plan for both dedicated servers goes up, only both, then it will be located in Texas - I think.
If the plan for both dedicated servers goes up, only both, then it will be located in Texas - I think.
What about us in Canada?
Chicago is better, for midwest and east coast
If the plan for both dedicated servers goes up, only both, then it will be located in Texas - I think.
Tears of Destiny for Shik's admin pick?
I would be willing.
I never ab00zed before, nor did I have any complaints.
I think only So Nyuh Shi Dae members should be admins on that server as they are the most neutral faction out there. How can you not trust singing asian girls?
chadz directly saying it will be his hand picked staff, not Classical running things. How much clearer do you want it to be? If Classical did anything even remotely sketchy, the plug would be pulled instantly and fixed by chadz and his crew. Can you really not see this, or are you too busy blindly listening to Ecko?
If he is the one directly paying for the server, not just giving chadz the money, but paying the server company directly then he has full access and control. Doesn't matter what chadz and crew do, or put as admins, the guy that actually pays the fucking company directly has full access and control of the server at all times.
Why is THIS PART so hard for you and Tears to understand. Nowhere in the post did he say that "Hey guys, I'm just going to be sending chadz money. IE: Donating." Which wouldn't even require a post btw. He said "Hey guys, I'm buying a server but I'm going to give chadz and crew access and admin and say that they're the ones 'running' it." There's a huge difference.
If he is the one directly paying for the server, not just giving chadz the money, but paying the server company directly then he has full access and control. Doesn't matter what chadz and crew do, or put as admins, the guy that actually pays the fucking company directly has full access and control of the server at all times.
Why is THIS PART so hard for you and Tears to understand. Nowhere in the post did he say that "Hey guys, I'm just going to be sending chadz money. IE: Donating." Which wouldn't even require a post btw. He said "Hey guys, I'm buying a server but I'm going to give chadz and crew access and admin and say that they're the ones 'running' it." There's a huge difference.
You know, if he fucks with chadz he can just disconnect him from DB, then he can pay dollars for a server noone will play on, if he wants.
Shit, 22nd abused server shit and were blacklisted for ages. Yet the goons are getting access to the "official" server box after all the shit they've pulled both here and every other game they've ever touched? It's just a silly decision.
Again, Zealot won't run these servers.
Sure. He'll just own them, which gives him full access to them to do anything he pleases. Complete security..... :rolleyes:This is exactly what I was saying earlier today. Wake up people. chadz is going to give the only NA strat server into the hands of a goon (with a poor record of behavior at that) to do whatever he wants.
to do whatever he wants.
How do you know he will allow that?
Everyone, I respectfully ask to keep this on topic with questions about the server and not anything to do with the current "flaming" or tense situation going on with me personally and the ATS community and surroundings.You put together some tentative specs for the box yet? I want to drool at the beastly box you're buying then turning control over to chadz.
Please direct all your other queries concerning any form of criticisms about me that are off topic to this (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,10611.0.html) thread.
Thanks.
Hey Gorath, why don't you just give chadz thousands of dollars to pay for another server. This way, AMERICA will have 2 servers, just in case Zealot pulls the plug on his.
I mean, a literal shit load of cash is no big deal right to any of you right? You wouldn't be rage polling Zealots donation if money meant anything to you.
Absolutely. Just have him do what I've fucking suggested and make a "donate to NA server" button and it's not a problem.I'm poor. :( i can haz handout?
BTW if you think I believe that zealot is paying THOUSANDS of dollars a month for a server you're an idiot. lol
Paying for a server box is nothing really. About a days wages. /shrug I'm fairly certain most of us in the NA community have decent jobs. Except guts, he's poor as shit.
I'm poor. :( i can haz handout?
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Dallas, Texas
Hello, my name is I-live-on-the-West-Coast. It is a pleasure to meet you!
I too live in Ontario, want to hook up later?
Texas has some of the best data centre's in the entire continent, location really doesn't matter when you're data centre takes a massive dump on Chicago's infrastructure.
Only like 4 provinces over. No biggie.
I better not get over 100 ping.
Only like 4 provinces over. No biggie.
I better not get over 100 ping.