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Title: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: chadz on July 12, 2011, 08:48:20 am
Every player can now use SkipTheFun on one character, even if you have more.

It can be either a main or alt, whatever you prefer.

There are two limitations:
 - You cannot use it if you have already one STF Char,
 - You cannot use it if the last char you created was within 7 days (cooldown timer)

We will reconsider allowing STF Mains to use the marketplace, as exploiting is now harder.

We might find a way to give a little icon ingame to STF Chars.

At the same time, I want to tell that we are forbidding the use of multiple Warband serials per player. This is, for now, just an information, and not being punished. It's merely an official announcement to prepare for it. In the future, it will probably lead to the 2nd serial being banned altogether if it is just running parallel, and both being banned if it was used to exploit. Just saying  :wink:

Also, we will probably release "further website changes" in the next days, stay tuned.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Earthdforce on July 12, 2011, 08:49:17 am
Wait, we can't STF if we make a new character for a week? That sounds a little long to me...

EDIT: Ahh I get it, only one stf per cd key a week.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Vovka on July 12, 2011, 09:02:37 am
i think only 5% player use STF for play and all others for test build
so i think , u just wasting ur time on this, test 1 build in week? nah
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: BlackCorsair on July 12, 2011, 09:03:39 am
Quote
and both being banned if it was used to exploit

Please, explain what u mean as an exploit.



For example if there are two brothers, playing on one computer. (ofc they have two serials)


How can they avoid  ban, if they want just to play and get pleasure?

1) ofc they dont use both serials at one time - one computer - one key at the moment

2) what they shouldnt do to be blamed in using exploits?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Smoothrich on July 12, 2011, 09:03:58 am
i think only 5% player use STF for play and all others for test build
so i think i, u just wasting ur time on this, test 1 build in weak? nah

Its so you can't tailor Skip the Fun characters for Strategus battles, if I recall.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Vovka on July 12, 2011, 09:07:51 am
Its so you can't tailor Skip the Fun characters for Strategus battles, if I recall.
only idiots will use STF character on strategus instead of the main  :mrgreen:
and lose a lot of experience
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Vibe on July 12, 2011, 09:23:10 am
This is very nice, same thing I suggested (mostly) :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on July 12, 2011, 09:23:48 am
this is good. will try it out soon. Is it possible to undo once you skipped the fun of one alt and play normal again from 0 exp?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 12, 2011, 09:28:18 am
Well, that skip the fun thing sucks, I deleted all my characters specifically to use this because of my attention span and I can't play the same build for more than a day.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: polkafranzi on July 12, 2011, 09:58:33 am
yay i can make an archer of my old friend to see what all the fuss is about
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: gazda on July 12, 2011, 10:04:24 am
on the site it says requirements: onyl one character, so im a bit scared to skip the fun on my alt
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: bosco on July 12, 2011, 10:07:03 am
on the site it says requirements: onyl one character, so im a bit scared to skip the fun on my alt

Hehe, indeed. Rather wait for others to try it first. :lol:
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: polkafranzi on July 12, 2011, 10:09:23 am
on the site it says requirements: onyl one character, so im a bit scared to skip the fun on my alt

Tried and tested, works fine on alt
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: gazda on July 12, 2011, 10:09:27 am
Hehe, indeed. Rather wait for others to try it first. :lol:

well i didnt wait i tried it anyway and its works, i now have lvl 30 alt and my super strong tons of gold main
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Nihtgenga on July 12, 2011, 10:20:25 am
So I have to delete my first STF alt to create another one?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: BlackCorsair on July 12, 2011, 10:36:48 am
So I have to delete my first STF alt to create another one?

I asked my best friend to help you and look what he answered:

Quote
Yes.
Best regards, captain obvious
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Nihtgenga on July 12, 2011, 10:50:53 am
ever thought of becoming a comedian?
I truly think I have never laughed so much and so long in my entire life!
have you made up that joke all by yourself?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: BlackCorsair on July 12, 2011, 10:52:06 am
stupid answer for stupid question - fair enough.

At least, i answered your stupid question, while it was just ignored  by others. You should be grateful, that I helped you so selflessly.  8-)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Corwin on July 12, 2011, 10:56:47 am
Well, this shorten my grinding in order to get my alt to lvl 30. However, I feel like this whole 'skip the fun' thing isn't so good for the mod. Btw, both me and my kid play this mod on different CD keys, but from the same IP address. Don't ban either one, please.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: polkafranzi on July 12, 2011, 10:58:06 am
Well, this shorten my grinding in order to get my alt to lvl 30. However, I feel like this whole 'skip the fun' thing isn't so good for the mod.

+1
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Nihtgenga on July 12, 2011, 11:00:38 am
You should be grateful, that I helped you so selflessly.  8-)

My gratitude will creep behind you eternally.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: marco1391 on July 12, 2011, 11:50:49 am
I just read that you are forbidding the use of multiple key in game too and not reguarding only strategus
it seems to me that it is a measure that has no logical basis, I mean I used(and sometimes I use) to play a bit on my secondary key to level an alt with another key and be able to give the unnecessary gold for the equipment to my main, will this be allowed?
moreover this would simply imply that players with a secondary key would play on a different pc with a different connection, maybe staying in the same room, doesn't this sound a bit ridicolous?
If it is for strategus I could understand(becouse of the free gold grinding without playing)but for the normal game it doesn't make sense to me, could you elaborate a bit more?
also forgive my english
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: chadz on July 12, 2011, 11:53:21 am
I just read that you are forbidding the use of multiple key in game too and not reguarding only strategus
it seems to me that it is a measure that has no logical basis, I mean I used(and sometimes I use) to play a bit on my secondary key to level an alt with another key and be able to give the unnecessary gold for the equipment to my main, will this be allowed?

no.
If this were intended, it would be possible in normal cRPG.

Rule of thumb: if you can do it with one serial, it's allowed, if you need two serials, it's forbidden.
Rules are rules for everyone, not only for those with one serial.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Roran Hawkins on July 12, 2011, 12:01:54 pm
so the punishment for 2 different serial keys running at the same time is the second one gets banned?
Hmm. I don't think I can force my brother (Stevus, check taleworlds forum, he's too lazy to make one here...) to stop, but that means we aren't allowed to play at the same time anymore.....


EDIT:
Well, this shorten my grinding in order to get my alt to lvl 30. However, I feel like this whole 'skip the fun' thing isn't so good for the mod. Btw, both me and my kid play this mod on different CD keys, but from the same IP address. Don't ban either one, please.
same problem, only me and my brother.

EDIT2: Phew, that's good to hear :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: chadz on July 12, 2011, 12:03:24 pm
No; two serials in one "household" will be allowed at request. Just means they will be monitored automatically if it's really 2 different players, and not just 1 guy pretending :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Dioxete on July 12, 2011, 12:12:21 pm
bunch of times 2 friends comes over to play warband, we are 3 guys in the same server, with the same IP xDDDDDDDD it will help if there's no problem ;)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: marco1391 on July 12, 2011, 12:21:21 pm
As soon as I heard this morning that 2 keys were not anymore allowed on the game and that there could have been future punishment about that I proceded to transfer that little gold I had on my secondary with a different key(24k) to my main
now I can't log in anymore with the primary and with the secondary, also I didn't played a single second with my secondary as requested
I suppose I was banned or something like that?what did I do wrong?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: polkafranzi on July 12, 2011, 12:22:16 pm
No; two serials in one "household" will be allowed at request. Just means they will be monitored automatically if it's really 2 different players, and not just 1 guy pretending :)

My brother and I often play simultaneously from same household, both in dif clans both doing pretty well on the same map.  Seems pretty obvious it's not 1 person playing 2 keys but would we still have to ask for some kind of allowance?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 12, 2011, 12:26:46 pm
Ss basicaly, the people that deleted their chars to use skip the fun (me :mrgreen:) got screwed hard. Epic :lol:
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Immolarian on July 12, 2011, 12:34:20 pm
My brother and I often play simultaneously from same household, both in dif clans both doing pretty well on the same map.  Seems pretty obvious it's not 1 person playing 2 keys but mwould we still have to ask for some kind of allowance?

Same here, I sometimes play crpg with my brother(in the same house). Will we get banned if we log in at the same time now?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Corwin on July 12, 2011, 12:50:34 pm
Ss basicaly, the people that deleted their chars to use skip the fun (me :mrgreen:) got screwed hard. Epic :lol:
I told you you shouldn't do it. I am ready to give you part of your money back, though. The part I spent (and Šprica) goes on tax for GTXters.

chadz, where do we send such kind of requests? I tried to PM you, but you are blocking.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Vibe on July 12, 2011, 12:51:53 pm
Which dev wouldn't block PMs on a patch week :D
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: chadz on July 12, 2011, 12:54:26 pm
I told you you shouldn't do it. I am ready to give you part of your money back, though. The part I spent (and Šprica) goes on tax for GTXters.

chadz, where do we send such kind of requests? I tried to PM you, but you are blocking.

Just send it to fasader (clicky (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=8)), he'll write it down.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: MrShine on July 12, 2011, 03:19:20 pm
Just send it to fasader (clicky (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=8)), he'll write it down.

Man, that Fasader guy just loves to help out with the communities problems doesn't he?  A true philanthropist, I should send him another PM in appreciation.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 12, 2011, 03:49:58 pm
Just send it to fasader (clicky (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=8)), he'll write it down.


It seems we are doing this a lot lately!  :lol:
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Farrok on July 12, 2011, 04:16:50 pm
Hmm with my main and my alt i can add a third char for testing purpose and still can use the other normally?

+even a stf char can respec? so i can test more than one build a week? (not on lvl 30 but a little bit build fixing :D) though you will not gain exp or is it only expgain after 30? so after respec can lvl back to 30 or not?

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 12, 2011, 05:28:56 pm
Hmm with my main and my alt i can add a third char for testing purpose and still can use the other normally?

+even a stf char can respec? so i can test more than one build a week? (not on lvl 30 but a little bit build fixing :D) though you will not gain exp or is it only expgain after 30? so after respec can lvl back to 30 or not?

STF chars cannot respec, just wasted CD on skipping my alt when i didnt noticed i got PD :( but whatever, ill just keep lvling my alts :D
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 12, 2011, 07:23:05 pm
Does the 7 day limitation apply to people that only have one char and use STF? That would suck  :?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Dravic on July 12, 2011, 07:32:24 pm
If I use only 1 character at time IN TOTAL, and it is STF character, wouldn't it be fair to me so i can change builds more frequently, like once per day?

To be sure you got what I said:

I have ONE character.
It is SKIP THE FUN character.
I CAN'T change BUILDS on my ONLY character FAST, because COOLDOWN timer is TOO LONG.

chadz, can you PLEASE give option of "old" skip the fun usage? Like it was prepatch: only 1 character in total, no alts, but can make new stf all the time without cooldown?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 12, 2011, 07:38:59 pm
Does the 7 day limitation apply to people that only have one char and use STF? That would suck  :?

It does, and now im screwed  for 6 days  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Oh well guess ill make a regular one and try to get to 32
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 12, 2011, 07:45:00 pm
I told you you shouldn't do it. I am ready to give you part of your money back, though. The part I spent (and Šprica) goes on tax for GTXters.

chadz, where do we send such kind of requests? I tried to PM you, but you are blocking.

No, twas a gift and will stay that way
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Dravic on July 12, 2011, 08:25:40 pm
Or i have even better idea.

chadz, if you like 7day cooldown, OK.

But let us RESPEC our STF characters WITH a 7day cooldown for respec, too!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Stabby_Dave on July 12, 2011, 11:25:31 pm
 :mad: I deleted my main last week in order to STF and test out fun builds. I lent my heirlooms to clanmates in order to get them back but now ive lost my 5 gen bonus when i needn't have. SOOOOO annoying!

Any chance my char is still on some backup database and could be restored?  :(
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 13, 2011, 12:06:34 am
Or i have even better idea.

chadz, if you like 7day cooldown, OK.

But let us RESPEC our STF characters WITH a 7day cooldown for respec, too!

Wont solve anything. Guys with one char only will be bitching again that they are stuck with it for few days anyhow.
As mentioned above, if the STF has to be on place, why not to do it combined the old and the new. The accounts with only one char should be able to delete it and make another on lets say 1day cooldown, guys with more chars keep 7 days, or even make it double, why not, something like free softcapped char should not be handed out this often.

As a new player, i would not choose to skip the fun for sure, i am a grinder by nature so i do not mind rerolling few times in order to find the style that fits me. Levelling to 20or so is fast enough and even there you can see the ups and downs on ur char (xcept some HA builds and such where you need to reach some not common stat combinations).

Sorry for all those guys who deleted chars in order to STF, i think you could have announced this planned change in order to prevent them screwing chars they worked quite long time on...shame on you.


Comment to fluffy under me: too bad they nerfed the exp bonus and forced us to roll alts/skip the fun in order to try out new builds instead of just retiring :(

I mean, respec feature is cool, but cmon, if it was not there i could have retired all my 3 chars at least once, like this i just keep tweaking and tweaking, always hovering around lvl 25-28, keep respeccing to like 24 and rinse repeat :D
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 13, 2011, 12:07:46 am
:mad: I deleted my main last week in order to STF and test out fun builds. I lent my heirlooms to clanmates in order to get them back but now ive lost my 5 gen bonus when i needn't have. SOOOOO annoying!

Any chance my char is still on some backup database and could be restored?  :(

same, mine was gen 10
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Stabby_Dave on July 13, 2011, 12:28:50 am
same, mine was gen 10

Yep, it sucks but i cant see us receiving mercy since we are more than likely in a massive minority.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: DrKronic on July 13, 2011, 01:19:53 am
Every player can now use SkipTheFun on one character, even if you have more.

It can be either a main or alt, whatever you prefer.

There are two limitations:
 - You cannot use it if you have already one STF Char,
 - You cannot use it if the last char you created was within 7 days (cooldown timer)

We will reconsider allowing STF Mains to use the marketplace, as exploiting is now harder.

We might find a way to give a little icon ingame to STF Chars.

At the same time, I want to tell that we are forbidding the use of multiple Warband serials per player. This is, for now, just an information, and not being punished. It's merely an official announcement to prepare for it. In the future, it will probably lead to the 2nd serial being banned altogether if it is just running parallel, and both being banned if it was used to exploit. Just saying  :wink:

Also, we will probably release "further website changes" in the next days, stay tuned.

awesomesauce, I want to try buildo!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Gafferjack on July 13, 2011, 01:37:33 am
Everyone should make a Shield 13 character. Just make sure you don't get banned for using this purely legitimate game mechanic.

Code: [Select]
Level 30

    Strength: 3
    Agility: 39
    Hit points: 38

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Power Strike: 1
    Shield: 13
    Athletics: 3
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Kafein on July 13, 2011, 01:42:39 am
Everyone should make a Shield 13 character. Just make sure you don't get banned for using this purely legitimate game mechanic.

Code: [Select]
Level 30

    Strength: 3
    Agility: 39
    Hit points: 38

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Power Strike: 1
    Shield: 13
    Athletics: 3

Unbreakable Arena shield ftw
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 13, 2011, 01:44:27 am
Perhaps Killer of Flowers should see this thread.  :P
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 13, 2011, 01:51:01 am
I concur, I was along with Gafferjack and Aldryk perma banned for "exploiting" "hacking" and whatever the hell else.

Because admins are fucking worthless and aren't aware of the game mechanics of a game they're adminning.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on July 13, 2011, 01:54:33 am
Skip the fun is a great mechanic, glad to see everyone has access to it now. The week period is a bit sad, but I suppose that just leaves a place for standard alts.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: hotcobbler on July 13, 2011, 01:56:26 am
So, if you want to skip the fun on your main, and try out a few builds before committing to leveling up again, can you then retire and begin to level up as normal, or are you stuck as a skip the fun character 4 lyfe?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 13, 2011, 02:01:36 am
So, if you want to skip the fun on your main, and try out a few builds before committing to leveling up again, can you then retire and begin to level up as normal, or are you stuck as a skip the fun character 4 lyfe?

STF cannot be reverted, in order to level up and retire you have to create new char and start from lvl 1

better to make alt, stf on him and then use the build you find perfect for ur main :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: hotcobbler on July 13, 2011, 02:05:17 am
Thanks for the quick reply. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Waylander918 on July 14, 2011, 07:14:01 am
So to the few of us that don't have a main and just use STF to play a bit here and there we are kinda screwed.. I like to try new builds pretty frequently and now that I deleted my previous STF char I have a lvl 1 for a week that I won't be playing.

I think this was mentioned before but could you please have an option for people who only want 1 STF main to be able to do it once a day or so? I don't think I can play this game if this new rule is going to stay :(
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 14, 2011, 07:42:22 am
So to the few of us that don't have a main and just use STF to play a bit here and there we are kinda screwed.. I like to try new builds pretty frequently and now that I deleted my previous STF char I have a lvl 1 for a week that I won't be playing.

I think this was mentioned before but could you please have an option for people who only want 1 STF main to be able to do it once a day or so? I don't think I can play this game if this new rule is going to stay :(

as far as i agree with you, i just HAVE to ask this: if you want to play something else every day, why not to play native? :D but yeah, there should be two options, one with 1week cooldown for guys with more chars, the second sould be without any limit, just as before, but you have to have only one char at the account, just as before, hm? Please, please, implement this :(
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Topsnus on July 14, 2011, 08:29:54 am
as far as i agree with you, i just HAVE to ask this: if you want to play something else every day, why not to play native? :D but yeah, there should be two options, one with 1week cooldown for guys with more chars, the second sould be without any limit, just as before, but you have to have only one char at the account, just as before, hm? Please, please, implement this :(
can't do this. There would be people who would tailor their builds to whatever their clan needed for any strategus battle on any given day. This is the whole point in having a main, and having the cooldown.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: partyboy on July 14, 2011, 09:04:36 pm
Cool so I deleted months worth of characters with multiple heirlooms so I could play a different build every few days, now it turns out I didn't need to delete them and I also have to wait a week if I get bored right away or mess up the build?

chadz sometimes I really feel like every thing you do is to spite me. Bring back old ladders.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Blondin on July 14, 2011, 09:06:27 pm
I concur, I was along with Gafferjack and Aldryk perma banned for "exploiting" "hacking" and whatever the hell else.

Because admins are fucking worthless and aren't aware of the game mechanics of a game they're adminning.

It's not a game, it's a beta mod...
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 14, 2011, 09:16:45 pm
It's not a game, it's a beta mod...

Technically it is a Beta Mod of a Game, thus both.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Blondin on July 14, 2011, 09:21:12 pm
Technically it is a Beta Mod of a Game, thus both.

Ok ToD, all i want to say is that devs team is not blizzard team so he should stop arguing just like he pays a fee to play.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Waylander918 on July 15, 2011, 03:04:48 am
as far as i agree with you, i just HAVE to ask this: if you want to play something else every day, why not to play native? :D but yeah, there should be two options, one with 1week cooldown for guys with more chars, the second sould be without any limit, just as before, but you have to have only one char at the account, just as before, hm? Please, please, implement this :(

... is that even a question? Why does anyone play cRPG over native?

I retired once and it was enough for me. It isn't worth the time and effort unless you do it 6 times and get a huge stockpile of gold to get totally loomed out, which STILL only makes you slightly better than anyone else your skill level.

can't do this. There would be people who would tailor their builds to whatever their clan needed for any strategus battle on any given day. This is the whole point in having a main, and having the cooldown.


*drum roll* .... restrict players like me from joining strategus, I don't care anyways! I just play battle, siege and duel for a bit, nor do I participate in clan organization. If you got one char only who is STF, lock them out of strategus battles and let them dick around in the derp servers changing their build as they will.. you only get 10k anyways.

The system is well and good for hardcore players but is shafting the more casual gamers quite a bit
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Gorath on July 15, 2011, 07:27:40 am
shafting the more casual gamers

Ah casual gamers.  The blight of gaming quality since time immemorable.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Dravic on July 15, 2011, 01:00:18 pm
Cool so I deleted months worth of characters with multiple heirlooms so I could play a different build every few days, now it turns out I didn't need to delete them and I also have to wait a week if I get bored right away or mess up the build?

chadz sometimes I really feel like every thing you do is to spite me. Bring back old ladders.

Same.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 15, 2011, 04:07:22 pm
can't do this. There would be people who would tailor their builds to whatever their clan needed for any strategus battle on any given day. This is the whole point in having a main, and having the cooldown.

Why not just put the cooldown on the "Make character Main" instead of the actual STF killing the fun of people who doesn't give a fuck about strategus but have a small attention span such as myself?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: chadz on July 15, 2011, 08:39:49 pm
Why not just put the cooldown on the "Make character Main" instead of the actual STF killing the fun of people who doesn't give a fuck about strategus but have a small attention span such as myself?

because I don't have a timestamp for that :P

but you got a point, this sounds like a somewhat acceptable solution.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: LordBerenger on July 15, 2011, 09:34:38 pm
because I don't have a timestamp for that :P

but you got a point, this sounds like a somewhat acceptable solution.

Please do it chadz. You know it's the right thing to do  :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Rhaelys on July 16, 2011, 01:41:26 am
Why not just put the cooldown on the "Make character Main" instead of the actual STF killing the fun of people who doesn't give a fuck about strategus but have a small attention span such as myself?

This!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 16, 2011, 09:10:29 am
Why not just put the cooldown on the "Make character Main" instead of the actual STF killing the fun of people who doesn't give a fuck about strategus but have a small attention span such as myself?

this is the same for tailoring builds id say, if you have cooldown on making main, what will stop you from making new main for every battle, depending on the needs? Not like you will have enough pop. to have battles like every day or so. (correct me if i am wrong, more than happy to learn new things :))

chadz, why not put in place old STF with no restrictions what so ever other than you need only one char on account, just as it was before. And keep the STF with one week cooldown for those with more chars. Anways, if you make a new char every day, you should not be able to do anything in strat, as it takes time to recruit and stuff, right?

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: BlackMilk on July 16, 2011, 09:11:53 am
Why not just put the cooldown on the "Make character Main" instead of the actual STF killing the fun of people who doesn't give a fuck about strategus but have a small attention span such as myself?
Suggested that already in another thread, I really like the idea.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Xant on July 16, 2011, 09:21:50 am
this is the same for tailoring builds id say, if you have cooldown on making main, what will stop you from making new main for every battle, depending on the needs?

Man, I don't know -- maybe the fact that there'd be a cooldown on making characters your main?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 16, 2011, 09:48:32 am
Man, I don't know -- maybe the fact that there'd be a cooldown on making characters your main?

the thing is, it is the same argument as for the CD on STF, so you cannot tailor chars for strat, so, what is the difference here?

You could make a STF, make it main, go to strat. Now you have to wait a week for new STF available, what would change if you would have to wait week for setting new main? I say nothing.

Just moving the cooldown from one feature to the other is not solution.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Razor1 on July 16, 2011, 10:01:46 am
I like it being able to have a main character and a skip the fun character.
Maybe make it so that you can not turn your STF character into the main one?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 16, 2011, 10:16:09 am
I like it being able to have a main character and a skip the fun character.
Maybe make it so that you can not turn your STF character into the main one?

not that bad idea, i guess people who care about strat will be lvling some char one day or the other after all...
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on July 16, 2011, 11:49:22 am
Why not make it that you can only STF an Alt, and not a main and once you STF you can't select to make it a main for Strat. I like not having to delete my char, why not go one step further. I have a build I'm itching to try but I have to wait 6 days, and that makes a sad face of us all.

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: MeevarTheMighty on July 16, 2011, 12:45:31 pm
At the same time, I want to tell that we are forbidding the use of multiple Warband serials per player. This is, for now, just an information, and not being punished. It's merely an official announcement to prepare for it. In the future, it will probably lead to the 2nd serial being banned altogether if it is just running parallel, and both being banned if it was used to exploit. Just saying  :wink:

Also, we will probably release "further website changes" in the next days, stay tuned.

 :|

So I should tell my brother to buy a new computer? I know a bunch of people who have two players living in the same house, so I don't know how you're going to manage this without cutting people out.

I'm sure you know that it's pretty easy to get multiple IPs at once if you do have multiple computers (the easiest way being to simply alternate your ISP - it's economic for me to have 2 ISPs even with only 1 PC, I'm sure that in the USA where there aren't any data caps, wifi theft is more viable), so anyone who actually wants to buy another cd-key to grind (why wouldn't you just un-equip items?) isn't going to be phased by this news if they have a pair of Warband capable PCs. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would care anyway, it's not as though insider trading between friends is going to be regulated.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: BlackMilk on July 16, 2011, 12:55:02 pm
If you STF your Main -> 7 days cooldown time
If you STF you alt -> no cooldown time

what about this? It couldnt be exploited in strat I guess
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 16, 2011, 02:30:16 pm
If you STF your Main -> 7 days cooldown time
If you STF you alt -> no cooldown time

what about this? It couldnt be exploited in strat I guess

Well this can be exploited, i create 2 chars assign one as a main use STF on the other one, delete the main and make the STF one the main and play strat, no?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 16, 2011, 04:45:15 pm
You can't make a new main one if the character was already existing while you had a Main one. So if I create 2 characters, make 1 main, the other one will never be able to be Main.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 16, 2011, 06:49:51 pm
the thing is, it is the same argument as for the CD on STF, so you cannot tailor chars for strat, so, what is the difference here?

You could make a STF, make it main, go to strat. Now you have to wait a week for new STF available, what would change if you would have to wait week for setting new main? I say nothing.

Just moving the cooldown from one feature to the other is not solution.

If you bothered reading what I wrote.

I said that so that people who doesn't care about strategus (Oh god forbid) such as me can play whatever build I want in battle because of my limited attention span to a single build.

So while it may not make a difference to you it will make a huge difference to anyone who doesn't want to play strategus or just doesn't care.


I don't need to set my character main if I want to play Battle.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 16, 2011, 09:37:52 pm
If you bothered reading what I wrote.

I said that so that people who doesn't care about strategus (Oh god forbid) such as me can play whatever build I want in battle because of my limited attention span to a single build.

So while it may not make a difference to you it will make a huge difference to anyone who doesn't want to play strategus or just doesn't care.


I don't need to set my character main if I want to play Battle.

if you wanna play diff. spec every day, why not to play native then? same goes for you, why you should have advantage over a guy who wants to participate in both parts of the game? i have quite limited span of attention as well, so i roll alts :P
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Spitfire on July 17, 2011, 12:42:11 am
i have a question about stf on an alt.. if you respec a stf char with you lvl back to lvl 30 then be stuck there agian or be stuck on the level that respec brought you to???
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 17, 2011, 02:14:09 am
if you wanna play diff. spec every day, why not to play native then? same goes for you, why you should have advantage over a guy who wants to participate in both parts of the game? i have quite limited span of attention as well, so i roll alts :P

It's not about having an advantage, how is it having an advantage? I get no heirlooms, I get no retirement, I can't get past level 30.

Also I don't play native because it's not the same.

In Native your stats stays the same, let's say I want a 36/3 2hander and the next day a 9/30 2 hander, I can't do this in Native.

Why are you so buttdevastated about my suggestion or something.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 17, 2011, 09:58:47 am
I play Crpg for customizable characters. To change stats/items and play with their pros and cons and, god forbid roleplay in a rolepaying game for fun.. Suggesting such to play native because we don't want to grind is insulting and takes away from what crpg is. I could go run around roleplaying as a thug with a knife in a back alley on battle and have 5 times as much fun as some guy trying his hardest to obtain exp and not fun.
Don't lose sight of what a game is.

I'm glad they introduced the STF option, it was the best thing that happened to crpg. The new tweak however punishes STF users who use STF as their only character now, and there should definitely be an option for non-strategus/market characters to not have a cool down.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: LordBerenger on July 17, 2011, 11:24:49 am
I play Crpg for customizable characters. To change stats/items and play with their pros and cons and, god forbid roleplay in a rolepaying game for fun.. Suggesting such to play native because we don't want to grind is insulting and takes away from what crpg is. I could go run around roleplaying as a thug with a knife in a back alley on battle and have 5 times as much fun as some guy trying his hardest to obtain exp and not fun.
Don't lose sight of what a game is.

I'm glad they introduced the STF option, it was the best thing that happened to crpg. The new tweak however punishes STF users who use STF as their only character now, and there should definitely be an option for non-strategus/market characters to not have a cool down.

Well said, couldn't have said it better  :)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 17, 2011, 12:19:39 pm
I agree with the couple of posts above me, says this post.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 17, 2011, 12:55:32 pm
who says i dont have fun? lets put it this way: it gives u advantage to counter anything u like at any time, too many archers on map? go shielder, too much cav? go cav aswell

i see the point of roleplay, i just dont see why u have to have max. lvl to have fun? I am the one who dont mind RPing low lvl chars with friends and getting pwned, i dont need lvl 30 for that, who is the one forgotting what is this game about?



you basically want free softcapped character every time u get bored to pwn all those who care about leveling and learning among the way...pathetic
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Mithus on July 17, 2011, 01:34:31 pm
Reduce cooldown to every 24 HOURS!!!!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 17, 2011, 01:51:42 pm
Pff, to play properly as archer you have to be atleast 20-25. What if I get bored of archery and want to play a bit of cav, and then just go back to my main class? Oh wait, I can't anymore without grinding alot for the second ( Justforfun ) character...
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 17, 2011, 02:12:28 pm
Pff, to play properly as archer you have to be atleast 20-25. What if I get bored of archery and want to play a bit of cav, and then just go back to my main class? Oh wait, I can't anymore without grinding alot for the second ( Justforfun ) character...

there is respec, reaching lvl 20 is a matter of one afternoon, few hours on x2 - x3, so not that big deal, play what u like, make stf if ur too bored, then get back to ur alt, respec him losing just few lvls and voila, profit
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cyclopsided on July 17, 2011, 03:36:01 pm
who says i dont have fun? lets put it this way: it gives u advantage to counter anything u like at any time, too many archers on map? go shielder, too much cav? go cav aswell

i see the point of roleplay, i just dont see why u have to have max. lvl to have fun? I am the one who dont mind RPing low lvl chars with friends and getting pwned, i dont need lvl 30 for that, who is the one forgotting what is this game about?



you basically want free softcapped character every time u get bored to pwn all those who care about leveling and learning among the way...pathetic
STF characters are level 30, no heirlooms. They are automatically disadvantaged to all normal characters that have heirlooms and can be higher level. Normal characters can put time in to have a dedicated character be BETTER than anything a STF could want to be. Grinders who want to grind get their reward.
I feel sorry for you not getting to play RP characters at decent level. You say you had fun doing low level ones and getting raped -- why not have a level 30 character and be able to fully utilize some funny gimmick? If you want to grind, go ahead man but don't take away from other players who just want to play.

It is not like STF characters are level 32 and get 3 heirlooms every time they do it. You are aware of how big a difference each level and each heirloom makes, right?
level 30 v level 32. Same build, but level 32 can ride a plated charger and level 30 can't even ride a sumpter. He could have lordly gauntlets, giving +17 Body armor to everything he wears, for example.
And you know what? Grinders should get that advantage. And they do.

The last note to touch on, is this notion that you could change your build because the map has too many of X players -- and you want to counter it.
1) If somebody were to play that way, they would get 10k total gear cost. They can't do much with that anyways.
2) If they did, so what? What would be wrong with a player gimping themselves in gear/level and reacting with the current metagame to be somewhat effective?

Also, everybody learns as they play. Some new guy who starts today and makes an STF so he can compete with a build on par with other players, does not mean he would be not learning as well. To top it off, it would make this person more likely to stay and contribute to the community if they aren't forced to grind before they can play!

Fuck man, you got me off topic.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Keshian on July 17, 2011, 04:05:18 pm
you basically want free softcapped character every time u get bored to pwn all those who care about leveling and learning among the way...pathetic

Wow, are you some kind of mind-reader that you know why everyone uses the skip the fun feature??  You must be a genius.  Of course........ the border-line between being a genius and a simpleton is rather narrow though.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 17, 2011, 04:08:38 pm
Wow, are you some kind of mind-reader that you know why everyone uses the skip the fun feature??  You must be a genius.  Of course........ the border-line between being a genius and a simpleton is rather narrow though.

I am just sick tired of people wanting stuff without effort, it doesnt work like that, period.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 17, 2011, 04:17:55 pm
I am just sick tired of people wanting stuff without effort, it doesnt work like that, period.

Relax, it is just a life...
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 17, 2011, 04:25:45 pm
Relax, it is just a life...

this is about game, different story bro :P
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 17, 2011, 04:32:31 pm
Ah, so in a game I MUST play for what? 20 hours or similar, ( Surely more due to the unluck of falling always in the losing team, also due to clanstacking ), for a character.

Uhm...

Instead I can go lvl 30, but with no gold at all, no possibility of being stronger, no possibility of heirlooms... I have yet to see where this STF is so OP.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Bulzur on July 17, 2011, 10:24:16 pm
Ah, so in a game I MUST play for what? 20 hours or similar, ( Surely more due to the unluck of falling always in the losing team, also due to clanstacking ), for a character.

Uhm...

Instead I can go lvl 30, but with no gold at all, no possibility of being stronger, no possibility of heirlooms... I have yet to see where this STF is so OP.

It's good as it is, but it would be really boring if you could STF as often as you want. You want to switch your playstyle ? Use an alt. I don't see why there's people complaining NOW about the STF available NOW for ALL, even with a time limit.

Or would you prefer if this feature just didn't exist ? Then do as if it didn't exist, don't use it. What did you think the community did before ? Ah, i get bored of this class, i'll quit cRPG. OR : Ah, i get bored of this class, i'll play with my alt. PEASANT POWA !

The purpose is to still have a decent amount of peasants. If you allow a STF unlimited, you'll destroy that. Since veterans are starting to not retire anymore. And newcomers find STF an excellent feature to see how the game is at a high level.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 17, 2011, 10:44:00 pm
Mah, 7 weeks is far too long, even taken into consideration the possible exploits for strategus and Crpg, I'd say that 3 days should be pretty fair.

Playing normally and grinding is a better choice already since you can get stronger ( far stronger, with higher level achiavable and heirlooms ) for those who have enough patience/time.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 17, 2011, 11:35:34 pm
My warning level is probably so high that if I flame anyone else I'll probably get muted but I'm out of fucks to give.

Cepeshi, are you fucking retarded or what, you're autistic as fuck, I can't even fathom the amount of stupidity you can produce in a single of your posts.

Why do you have to be so fucking braindead, you can't even understand the concept that we're not all YOU and we don't all have the same definition of fun, why are you so against STF, it's not like we're killing your fun ingame by using STF, you probably don't even know who's using it and who's not.

Archers are killing my fun greatly, yet I'm not on the forum like HURF DURF ARCHERY ISNT FUN TO ME SO IT MUST BE BORING TO EVERYONE ELSE LOL NERF NO EFFORT PEW PEW FROM DISTANCE REQUIRES NO EFFORT I'M BRAINDEAD AS FUCK.

Jesus christ, this forum alone is giving me brain cancer, why is everyone so god damned retarded, you being the first, I know that you have no fucking braincells left but that's not a reason to kill other people's braincells as an attempt to not be the only retarded fuck on the forum, there's already plenty of you guys, go make friends with the other stupid fucks and trolls populating the forum.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Gorath on July 17, 2011, 11:38:18 pm
Jesus christ, this forum alone is giving me brain cancer, why is everyone so god damned retarded

Because pretty much everyone is a self-centered fuckwad who gets enjoyment out of insulting other people and pissing people off.  It's not just this forum though, it's pretty much how the internet gaming community has evolved and it's fucking sad.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 17, 2011, 11:47:05 pm
Maybe but atleast in other communities there's boards that are more or less better where you can just hide and ignore the rest of the shitbags.

In here they're fucking everywhere and prominent as fuck.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: RandomDude on July 17, 2011, 11:56:05 pm
i really cant see anything wrong with the stf function

its a good way for players to test builds without grind and for new players to work out how they want to play bto play before/if they want to try the rpg side
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: 22nd_Hawk_Cmdr_Harlequin on July 18, 2011, 12:15:15 am
"The rage of the justs is the worst one", or something similar, isn't it  :wink:
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Carilus on July 18, 2011, 12:42:33 am
hey
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on July 18, 2011, 08:01:11 am
@Cepeshi

I've got a lvl 28 Archer, a lvl 28 1h Shielder a lvl 24 Staff/Yari jerk, lvl 26 Axe douche and lvl 20 thrower.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STF AT WILL. FUN, remember fun? Before the system changed I deleted 3 different lvl 28 chars and then played on a series of STF chars that I deleted every time I played. The new system is a massive improvement but the 7 day cool off period is pointless.

Don't you try and bullshit a mute point that those that stf don't grind, and are some how lesser people because of it.

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Magikarp on July 18, 2011, 12:00:04 pm
This feature is awesome, I got to level my HA to 30 without having to go trough the boring 24-30 circuit.

Greatest addition to c-rpg in a while.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 18, 2011, 01:03:40 pm
@Cepeshi

I've got a lvl 28 Archer, a lvl 28 1h Shielder a lvl 24 Staff/Yari jerk, lvl 26 Axe douche and lvl 20 thrower.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STF AT WILL. FUN, remember fun? Before the system changed I deleted 3 different lvl 28 chars and then played on a series of STF chars that I deleted every time I played. The new system is a massive improvement but the 7 day cool off period is pointless.

Don't you try and bullshit a mute point that those that stf don't grind, and are some how lesser people because of it.

Where did i say they are lesser? Do not put words in my posts man...obviously, all of you have different opinion then i do, and i doubt we will find any agreement as all you can do is try to point out shit i didnt even wrote. So, i am just quitting this discussion.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Duerkos on July 18, 2011, 04:07:20 pm
How can I see how many days I've got left to do STF again without deleting the STF character?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on July 18, 2011, 06:00:54 pm
How can I see how many days I've got left to do STF again without deleting the STF character?

have not found the option anywhere
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Hevi on July 18, 2011, 07:08:41 pm
great! Vodka, Matreshka and Medved's!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: mulas on July 19, 2011, 01:31:27 am
Noob questions:

When I use STF on my lvl 29 alt, do I get to reassign my skills/attributes points? Or does it simply add a level?
If I want to try a different build on the same char, can I use STF again on it or do I need to delete it, make a new char then use STF?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 19, 2011, 01:47:02 am
You'll need to delete your current STF char and wait 7 days from when you STF'd your old char and remake a new one.

As for your level 29 you'll just get bumped to level 30 get 10,000 gold and get all your skills back so you can distribute them again, keep in mind this'll make your guy stuck at level 30 forever with no means of retirement or marketplace or strategus or anything like that.

Honestly you're better off just leveling to 30 by yourself.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: mulas on July 19, 2011, 02:29:16 am
You'll need to delete your current STF char and wait 7 days from when you STF'd your old char and remake a new one.

As for your level 29 you'll just get bumped to level 30 get 10,000 gold and get all your skills back so you can distribute them again, keep in mind this'll make your guy stuck at level 30 forever with no means of retirement or marketplace or strategus or anything like that.

Honestly you're better off just leveling to 30 by yourself.

Thanks, but it's an alt, Alts can't access marketplace, nor play strategus (I think)

update: No I didn't get to redistribute my points, it just add another level. I should respec first then STF.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Anti on July 19, 2011, 04:49:27 am
I say we just let STF characters Not be mains, but allow them to respec with no xp penalty. Also, disallow them from being mains.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: TO_Ice_and_Fire on July 24, 2011, 03:06:48 am
I say we just let STF characters Not be mains, but allow them to respec with no xp penalty. Also, disallow them from being mains.

allow the mains being STF is totally wrong

someone make the mains STF by mistake,and he will lose everthing ,and have no fun to play the main ID anymore!it hurts players.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Patricia on July 24, 2011, 11:50:06 am
allow the mains being STF is totally wrong

someone make the mains STF by mistake,and he will lose everthing ,and have no fun to play the main ID anymore!it hurts players.

How can you do that by mistake, I'd understand if it was a button you accidently click but it's not.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Turkhammer on July 31, 2011, 02:46:30 am
WTF is STF?

NVM, Got it.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: ThePoopy on July 31, 2011, 01:00:02 pm
Put the one week limit to how often you can set new main instead
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Kharn on July 31, 2011, 04:03:28 pm
@chadz

Up until now you have said 1 player can not have 2 strategus characters but 2 CD keys is fine.

You claim otherwise now, Did you mis-speak?
You seem to correct yourself:

"Rule of thumb: if you can do it with one serial, it's allowed, if you need two serials, it's forbidden. "

I just want to make sure that the restriction you have is still only against having 2 main characters like it has always been.

Please don't go back and forth as real money is at play here.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Corwin on July 31, 2011, 11:31:46 pm
Guys, where one can see when his cool-down period is expiring?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Cepeshi on August 01, 2011, 12:51:35 am
You have to remember corwin :) No display, last time i was spamming STF for like 3 hours, cause i thought i made it at 6pm, but it was round 8pm :S
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Iymore on August 09, 2011, 12:18:56 am
Can you delete cooldown timer?

I cant test my builds...

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Iymore on August 11, 2011, 12:21:32 am
Bump? Cmon!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Baggy on August 11, 2011, 04:21:29 pm
Bump? Cmon!
Like ur avatar +1
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Iymore on August 11, 2011, 06:26:25 pm
stf is for testing builds right? How can i test my builds? I NEED WAIT 7 DAYS IT'S TOO LONG!!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Iymore on August 19, 2011, 11:01:04 pm
stf is for testing builds right? How can i test my builds? I NEED WAIT 7 DAYS IT'S TOO LONG!!
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Phineas on September 02, 2011, 08:53:22 pm
I agree, seven days is way too long.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: hamiler on September 19, 2011, 03:35:05 pm
yes im trying to try different buileds before strat and well.......
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: t1337Dude on September 20, 2011, 09:26:13 am
How are you disallowing multiple serials per player? I play with my brother from the same network (though we use different accounts and characters), does this mean we can't play together anymore?
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Vibe on September 20, 2011, 09:32:24 am
How are you disallowing multiple serials per player? I play with my brother from the same network (though we use different accounts and characters), does this mean we can't play together anymore?

They have ways to see whether it is one guy using two accounts or two guys using two.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Reyiz on September 21, 2011, 11:09:52 pm
I agree, seven days is way too long.
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Corrado_Decimo on September 22, 2011, 12:54:21 am
I agree, seven days is way too long.

i was tempted to open a thread about it. can't wait to test my last crazy build...

should be 7 days if someone use STF as the main character and 1hour cooldown for who use em as alt chars.
(STF as alt chars, do no harm to the market nor to strategus...so why cooldown?)
Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: kinngrimm on September 25, 2011, 05:19:09 am
It tells me i need to delete the stf char.
If i always need to delete and recreate completly stf char, that combined with 7 days waiting period and the other restrictions, then this is not really an inovation.

The high exp and fast gen switch we had some patches ago, was fun because i could fully test every 4-7 days on my main with a new build.

Again, my suggestions would be either to have only main char and no alt, but the possibility to freely respec, so we can load character builds as we need them
or to have an xp pool for all characters, so when i make a new character that one starts with the same xp and loom points as all others have and all contribute to the same xp pool.

Either way of the 2 suggestions would guarantee high flexibility and playability.

Title: Re: Website update: Skip the fun
Post by: Teeth on September 25, 2011, 10:10:41 am
It tells me i need to delete the stf char.
If i always need to delete and recreate completly stf char, that combined with 7 days waiting period and the other restrictions, then this is not really an inovation.

The high exp and fast gen switch we had some patches ago, was fun because i could fully test every 4-7 days on my main with a new build.

Again, my suggestions would be either to have only main char and no alt, but the possibility to freely respec, so we can load character builds as we need them
or to have an xp pool for all characters, so when i make a new character that one starts with the same xp and loom points as all others have and all contribute to the same xp pool.

Either way of the 2 suggestions would guarantee high flexibility and playability.
This would really increase my cRPG fun, so I can just try different things without it costing me majorly.