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Title: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 06:14:10 am
500 words, Topic: "the inevitable rise of greed and grind in online games"
Take your time.

Disclaimer: English is not my native language. Also, this sacred scripture is probably more than 500 words. Frankly, I could care less for requirements, as my tested typing speed is over 200 words a minute.

First, I’ll start off with an explanation for why I have decided to write this awe-inspiring tome of knowledge. I realized that chadz has made a request to hear my heavenly subjective opinion, and in return is willing to make changes to the game, as informed by a Godly being such as myself. Everyone reading this should envy me, for they do not possess a means to manipulate this grand opportunity.

Now, on to the main topic: why c-rpg is so fucked up, how it has been ruined, and why it is too late (minus a sliver of hope that continues to faintly glow in a pit of unending despair) to undo the erroneous judgments which have occurred in the past. Also, a little disclaimer note should be added, and this point-in-time seems best. The Oracle of Delphi was considered to be able to communicate with the Gods, and thus had the ability to make divine judgment. Her place of residence was examined by French archaeologists, and they found her source of inspiration. She acquired her foresight via inhalation of fumes produced by natural chemical reactions in her lair. Basically, before she gave people advice, she would get so high that standing became difficult. I have adopted her methods for the purpose of this essay, although my drugs are not nearly as powerful. And so it begins…

chadz, you have fucked your game up. It all started on January 11th, when the retirement system was re-introduced without a set minimum time similar to what was seen in the previous system. There are currently people who are higher than gen 20, and retire every two days. They wear fully heirloomed gear, which gives them a major advantage over the other players. Of course, you implanted this system to reward time investment into your mod, because, this way, the more you play the greater advantage you gain over everyone else. These players wish to gain such an advantage for various reasons. Generally, the cause is not greed, but rather, an inferiority complex. People seek to gain unfair advantages over those who are better than them, which will in turn allow them to win. This is not what the game should be based on. Not having a life shouldn’t give people an unfair advantage over those who have superior skill. Thus, you should (although you probably won’t, as you are too lazy, lazy chadz!) remove the system which handicaps everyone who refuse to spend all their time playing the game.  I understand you are trying to mine a player base, but you really need to come up with a different method.

I also understand a different reason of why players would try to handicap (relatively) those around them. Such a reason is the only acceptable & morally just one. It is the fact that their opponents have an unfair advantage that they received on an inert basis. What could such an advantage possibly be, you might ask… Well, you see, the advantage is simple: it’s a ping difference. Clearly, a player with a lower ping has an advantage over a player with a higher ping. So, to conclude this point: Give heirlooms based on ping rather than time invested into the game. But in what manner could such a system possibly be implanted, you might ask. Well, you see, myself being a jack-of-all-trades, as well as a genius, I have already come up with the answer to your woes (now you may sleep soundly at night). The solution would be to apply heirloom bonuses on items at a tick which would occur once every x amount of seconds. X is a specified range of numbers, one of the numbers in this range will be chosen at random, and will define what the timer is for the next heirloom tick. The range of x could be anything, but the range 1-60 seems like a solid base to start with. Anyway, this bores me, I am sure you can figure out the rest without me holding your hand.

About a ladder system, your game desperately needs one. People are bored of your game and fuck around a lot. This means: Lamers, Tkers, Afkers, God-Knows-What else. An individual ladder system which is based on win ratio would greatly help reduce the number of these scum, whom are being encountered surprisingly often.

Now, amalgamate all of the ideas I have so gracefully blessed you with, chadz. Do not allow these words of wisdom to fall upon deaf ears, for it is your duty as a donkey (and a human being) to implant these magnificent suggestions into the game. If you do as I have said, fortune will fall upon you & your family, and your game shall bloom into a magnificent flower of prosperity. I have done my part. You, in return, must not disappoint the Gods.

To sum it all up: High gens with no life have a monopoly on c-rpg, the game is fucked.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: EyeBeat on February 16, 2011, 07:22:22 am
TL;DR

Did he apologise?
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Matey on February 16, 2011, 08:02:11 am
your punctuation, spelling and grammar is acceptable, however you completely missed the point.

F.
Try again.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 08:14:40 am
TL;DR

Did he apologise?

Why don't you read it for yourself and find out, you lazy fuck. It was written to aware the community of the flaws in the game design, not to suck someone's dick.

your punctuation, spelling and grammar is acceptable, however you completely missed the point.

F.
Try again.

Is acceptable?
Is?

You really shouldn't comment on someone's English capabilities when you lack any trace of them yourself.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Mouse on February 16, 2011, 08:33:41 am
Any game with a grind is a game for scrubs. You know it to be true.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 08:51:14 am
Any game with a grind is a game for scrubs. You know it to be true.

I agree, which is why we should just start with level 30 characters (and be locked at that level). The incentive to win should be based on ladder rankings, rather than being able to use items. If chadz really wants to, he can just make it so high tier gear is only available to high ranked players.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on February 16, 2011, 09:01:49 am
People with skill can still beat the higher gens with less skill, they are not invincible.

Higher gens with high skill, well... thats another story. But i think the system overall is ok, maybe it would be a good idea that after the 10th generation you get 1 heirloom per 2 generations and the xp bonus is lowered to 5%
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Babelfish on February 16, 2011, 09:10:57 am
Good length, but lacks structure and meaning. The disorganized nature of your essay also makes it hard to read and understand, maybe you had some good points in there, but they wont reach the reader.

The introduction bit makes you come off as a fifth-grader, remove that and replace it with some proper text.
 You only mentioned greed once(!) in the entire text


F
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Z_E_N on February 16, 2011, 09:18:30 am

Disclaimer: Frankly, I could care less for requirements, as my tested typing speed is over 200 words a minute.


You should shoot for the world record, considering that

The fastest typing speed ever, 216 words per minute, was achieved by Stella Pajunas-Garnand from Chicago in 1946 in one minute on an IBM electric.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 09:20:09 am
People with skill can still beat the higher gens with less skill, they are not invincible.

Higher gens with high skill, well... thats another story. But i think the system overall is ok, maybe it would be a good idea that after the 10th generation you get 1 heirloom per 2 generations and the xp bonus is lowered to 5%

The consensus is clear: the current system is faulty, and changes need to made.

Good length, but lacks structure and meaning. The disorganized nature of your essay also makes it hard to read and understand, maybe you had some good points in there, but they wont reach the reader.

The introduction bit makes you come off as a fifth-grader, remove that and replace it with some proper text.
 You only mentioned greed once(!) in the entire text, and the grind part  of your subject is ignored throughout the text.


F


That's okay, my writing was never meant to be understood by those possessing below-average intelligence. Go stuff shapes into a box, toddler.

You should shoot for the world record, considering that

The fastest typing speed ever, 216 words per minute, was achieved by Stella Pajunas-Garnand from Chicago in 1946 in one minute on an IBM electric.

I am sure I could break various world records in a wide assortment of subjects, but I do not wish to participate in competitions that do not spark my interests.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Babelfish on February 16, 2011, 09:23:10 am
Write a proper text before you claim other people have below average intelligence.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Matey on February 16, 2011, 09:24:57 am
bwahaha i had a grammar derp. thats ok though. i only put in effort on writing when its for university.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Casimir on February 16, 2011, 09:28:25 am
All in all you failed to answer the question given. You have no supporting evidence and lack any sign of balance in your argument. You should have focused on whether or not grinde and greed are inevitible rather than writting an extended disvussion on the issue surrounding retirementd.

Bearing that in mind what you have written offers some interesting opinions and ideas.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on February 16, 2011, 09:55:29 am
Hmm.

1) You deliberately avoided the set topic - your essay doesn't address it at all.

2) Suggestions belong in the suggestion section.

3) In places the deliberate arrogance (though it has been funny before) wears thin, and as a result the essay is overly self concious, and in some places feels forced.

4) Considering the disclaimer, I think it was very well written.

5) The references to Delphic oracles are not referenced at all. In addition, your link between supposed Divine Inspiration and this essay is rather undermined by your claim that the Oracle was merely high on drugs, not divinely inspired - what does this say about your essay?!

6) No bibliography (there is plenty of secondary reading you could have done for this topic, as listed in your cRPG Course Introduction for Peasants booklet).

To conclude, I would say that you show some promise as a student. Just remember, young Balton, that while your attitude may impress your friends in the playground, this is a serious subject and we would appreciate it if you took it more seriously.
Academic hoops may be tiresome at times, but they are there for a reason - we can't assess you if you refuse to write to a proper standard. You've done good work before, don't throw it all away now!

Final score: 2. It was going to be a 1, but the board decided to be lenient, considering that previous posts of yours have sometimes made me laugh.

Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on February 16, 2011, 10:41:56 am
I have to agree with the retirement topic. I simply have to. I got the impression that chadz wanted to reduce heirlooms and make them more rare and an accomplishment...
But there are indeed some of the high-tier players that have such a high generation number that they are able to retire every 4-6 days, if not more often...
This effectively results in some players having a distinct advantage over others. They are able to stack up on heirlooms. Which is going against the intentions in the first place.

Using Vargas's toolkit: http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm
a Generation 15-Player with a given multiplyer of 2.5 (average) needs 30 hours to retire. 74 hours for a Generation 1-Player...  That, of course, is just a rough approximation.
So in the same time the high-tier-player gets 2.5 times the heirlooms of a lowest-tier-player. Not to speak of the additional Generation-Bonus, which lets him retire even faster.

So in a course of say 300 hours, relatively against each others, the curve of xp of high-tier to low-tier is exponential. The gap between the two gets even bigger and bigger.


BUT nevertheless this is a broken/unbalaced game-mechanic (we are in a beta arent we?). It happens because of the unfinished/not finally balanced product. And it happens to everyone.
Your multiboxing only happened to you. Out of your own "malicious" intent.
So your point is right but should have been in the suggestions-corner.

Your essay should have been an apology about multiboxing. It should have shown that you would not exploit again. Which it did not.
The essay fails.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 10:59:00 am
Oh gosh you guys, clearly I failed to accomplish what I set out to do :rolleyes:

Also, I laugh whole-heartily at all the wanna-be authoritative figures in the community. Learn to properly aspire to things, noobs.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on February 16, 2011, 11:05:29 am
People with skill can still beat the higher gens with less skill, they are not invincible.

But i think the system overall is ok, maybe it would be a good idea that after the 10th generation you get 1 heirloom per 2 generations and the xp bonus is lowered to 5%


I agree. Something on the lines of this (maybe a bit tweaking here and there...) would be a nice solution.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: krampe on February 16, 2011, 11:09:30 am
I didn't read this new "balton aberration", as usual, but i voted 5 by mistake so -5 +1.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: La Makina on February 16, 2011, 11:41:53 am
2-some interesting ideas but way too long for a post. Unforgivable.

RPG levelling systems are usually based on a progressive scale: the more you progress, the longer it is to reach the next level. In cRPG, the 10% bonus after each retirement spoils the exponential levelling. The longer you play, the faster you increase.

So, indeed, reintroducing an exponential progress to overpower (for heirlooms or for XP) would be good.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 16, 2011, 11:46:20 am
Balton, everything you write makes everyone hate you that little bit more.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: The Silent C on February 16, 2011, 12:07:31 pm
It's like you entered a debate about the death penalty, and made a compelling speech purely about Immigration. It may be a moderately good speech and may contain some valid points, it has nothing to do with what the topic was. If the topic was retirement in crpg, 4. But its not, so 2.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Lansamur on February 16, 2011, 12:15:45 pm
Topic missed. In Germany, that would be a "6" (worst mark).

Cya.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Ujin on February 16, 2011, 01:37:32 pm
I think this kid needs to take a rest from cRPG. A long rest that is.

So , you have a feeling that players with high gens and heirlooms have an upper hand and you, instead of playing this game for teamplay,clans or just pure fun/gaining skill have decided to use an easy and cheap trick to catch up with them ? You claim that the system is broken and the game is fucked up, yet you keep playing it like a mindless grinder while constantly insulting the community you play with, acting like you have the policy on truth in this universe.

When you get caught, you don't even try acting like you're sorry, you go on bragging about your wonderful typing capabilities and telling chadz how to develop his game. Well i'm sorry kid, it's not the game that's fucked up, it's you.




P.S. that gay-ass avatar doesn't give you any bonus points neither.    "1"
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: IG_Saint on February 16, 2011, 02:07:22 pm
P.S. that gay-ass avatar doesn't give you any bonus points neither.    "1"

But he's such a stud, how can you not give him points for that! AND he can deadlift 405 lbs! Imagine how useful that will be in the real world! When he's having a job interview all he has to do is mention that and boom, he's got the job!

On an unrelated note, I think there should be a penalty involved for writing a stupid, self serving piece of garbage and calling it your unban essay. Maybe the ban could be extended a couple of weeks or so.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Tristan on February 16, 2011, 02:34:27 pm
This essay makes even more evident that I write a "how to" concerning apologia and apoligies.

You (Balton) are an eloquent and well formulated person. Your essay is, and this you will not accept, fail.
Unfortunately that I even care to answer your posts feeds your ego. However the following critique is given in mind that you actually wanted to pursuade your audience.

- You change topic and does not answer the assignment given.
- I cannot quite discern how serious you are about your divine ego, but whatever the case by being arrogant in this extreme degree you do not pursuade. It can be used sarcasticly and ironic, yet you do not achieve this. We, your audience, is left with the impression of a person who do not understand the fine line between humor and stupidity. This in a degree that your post even fails at trolling.
- Because of the above and however many "good" arguments you have, you achieved neither. You should not be unbanned and you did not persuade.
- Bane has already pinpointed the failure of warrants and argumentation.

All in all, from someone who actually seems to be rather well gifted, your post is fail.

1/5
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: [ptx] on February 16, 2011, 05:42:54 pm
Doesn't even touch the subject.

UG (Ungraded)
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Tsarevitch on February 16, 2011, 06:45:43 pm
You are so full of yourself the part that makes me really want to punch you right in the face is that you were so arrogant that you failed to apologize. Your essay rambles on and makes absolutely no sense. You try to justify your cheating because you say a game mechanic is broken. You want all of us to be lvl 30 again? That is derp because if I'm not mistaken the mod is called cRPG meaning you level up and get better equipment. If you want to be lvl 30 with everyone else go play Native. You posted on Snickers essay that you were top of the board on both servers you played in? Stop kidding yourself, you suck and you were not at the top on both. You are sad, you cannot justify your cheating.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on February 16, 2011, 07:48:24 pm
Also, I laugh whole-heartily at all the wanna-be authoritative figures in the community. Learn to properly aspire to things, noobs.

What? All the people who posted here are on the cRPG Essay Board of Official Examiners (cRPG EBOE)!

Except the guy who wants to punch you in the face. I dunno who he is. But whoever he is, he's very angry at your essay!
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 16, 2011, 10:01:42 pm
As expected, the majority of the community ignores everything else and focuses on why I am so awesome. Thanks guys, I love you too <3
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: SeQuel on February 17, 2011, 03:16:09 am
As expected, the majority of the community ignores everything else and focuses on why I am so awesome. Thanks guys, I love you too <3

Obvious troll is obvious. Try getting on a new level.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: TehSoviet on February 17, 2011, 03:29:44 am
As expected, the majority of the community ignores everything else and focuses on why I am so awesome. Thanks guys, I love you too <3

Somebody get this clown out of here before -SOMEBODY- severe's his balls and feeds them to him.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Snickers on February 17, 2011, 04:00:56 am
As expected, the majority of the community ignores everything else and focuses on why I am so awesome. Thanks guys, I love you too <3

Just Get out ------->
I don't want to see your douchy ass photoshoped picture of you.
So GTFO before I deepfry your 2 inch dick with some dough.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 17, 2011, 05:34:01 am
Obvious troll is obvious. Try getting on a new level.

Umad

Somebody get this clown out of here before -SOMEBODY- severe's his balls and feeds them to him.

Umadder

Just Get out ------->
I don't want to see your douchy ass photoshoped picture of you.
So GTFO before I deepfry your 2 inch dick with some dough.

Uinsecure

And d'awww, thanks, my picture isn't photoshopped :3

Also, ironic because you multi-boxed as well, but enjoy "fitting in" on the bandwagon, God knows you need some friends.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: POOPHAMMER on February 17, 2011, 05:56:05 am
Umad

Umadder

Uinsecure

And d'awww, thanks, my picture isn't photoshopped :3

Also, ironic because you multi-boxed as well, but enjoy "fitting in" on the bandwagon, God knows you need some friends.

The proper term is insecure, and the ones who tend to be insecure are the ones who feel the need to post shirtless pics of themselves on an online game showing off their pasty steroid induced abs to try and be the bigger man on a gaming forum. Just give up. You are done.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Snickers on February 17, 2011, 07:23:29 am
And d'awww, thanks, my picture isn't photoshopped :3
Ur not Buff buddy, your just a skinny as hell.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 17, 2011, 07:43:14 am
The proper term is insecure, and the ones who tend to be insecure are the ones who feel the need to post shirtless pics of themselves on an online game showing off their pasty steroid induced abs to try and be the bigger man on a gaming forum. Just give up. You are done.
Ur not Buff buddy, your just a skinny as hell.

Well, you two seem to be contradicting yourselves, so it seems I have no need to make a legitimate reply to either.

But, on the other hand, I guess everyone deemed skinny (by Snickers at least) is able to deadlift 405lbs. Damn, the world's population must be so strong, I can't imagine what someone who is deemed as fat is able to deadlift.

And Snickers, if I am 'skinny as hell', but still stronger than you, doesn't that make you absolutely pathetic? Unless of course you are skinnier than hell  :lol:
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: SeQuel on February 17, 2011, 07:55:20 am
Well, you two seem to be contradicting yourselves, so it seems I have no need to make a legitimate reply to either.

But, on the other hand, I guess everyone deemed skinny (by Snickers at least) is able to deadlift 405lbs. Damn, the world's population must be so strong, I can't imagine what someone who is deemed as fat is able to deadlift.

And Snickers, if I am 'skinny as hell', but still stronger than you, doesn't that make you absolutely pathetic? Unless of course you are skinnier than hell  :lol:

Lol, your so full of yourself kid. Grow up your the worst troll on these forums.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: BD_Guard_Bane on February 17, 2011, 08:13:25 am
I dunno, seems like he's pretty good at making people angry :)


Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Oberyn on February 17, 2011, 08:13:50 am
Proposed renaming of thread: "Closet gay narcissist fails to admit fault, gets high and rants" . Although the narcissist and fails to admit fault part kind of go hand in hand.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Clown on February 17, 2011, 12:19:33 pm
Банан.
1
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: TehSoviet on February 17, 2011, 05:16:22 pm
Here ladies and gentlemen, lurks Balton, the shit stain on CRPG.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Matey on February 17, 2011, 09:25:05 pm
Yeah really, can we just permaban him from the servers and forums and move on?
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Stabby_Dave on February 18, 2011, 12:53:04 am
80% vote this essay a 1. Gotta be some kind of record.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: AgentQ on February 18, 2011, 12:56:51 am
voted 1. argument was poorly constructed, and tons of troll   :lol:
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: MrShovelFace on February 18, 2011, 01:47:52 am
he gets angry when he screws up

then he gets angry when people call him on it

then he gets banned

and then he spends 3 minutes thinking of the first few sentences of his essay of how to get unbanned

then he spends the next 15 minutes thinking of an essay to 'totally stick it to chadz'

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he calls the other guy weak

then he gets mad when someone else calls him egocentric

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when someone calls him egocentric

then he calls the other party mad using meme

then he logs off of the forums

then he logs on as a guest to secretly see what people are saying about him



Balton watch ~ summarizing dickheads since 1992
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Butan on February 18, 2011, 02:12:26 am
Dont worry Balton, they are jealous just because they deadlift air like its 405lbs  8-)

I find you funny and just because everyone seems to hate you, I'm saying it out loud.

Unban him plz, np.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 18, 2011, 06:53:10 am
Seems like I've acquired quite the popularity in this community.

Dont worry Balton, they are jealous just because they deadlift air like its 405lbs  8-)

I find you funny and just because everyone seems to hate you, I'm saying it out loud.

Unban him plz, np.

You're right, the better someone is, the more people will hate that person. They can't stand to believe that everything they failed to accomplish, someone else was able to do with such ease. Sadly, it's a design flaw in humans, and it stems from their deep-seeded insecurities.

And I appreciate the support, it's good to know that some people in this community aren't riddled with insecurities to their neck.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: SeQuel on February 18, 2011, 07:05:01 am
he gets angry when he screws up

then he gets angry when people call him on it

then he gets banned

and then he spends 3 minutes thinking of the first few sentences of his essay of how to get unbanned

then he spends the next 15 minutes thinking of an essay to 'totally stick it to chadz'

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when people call him on it

then he calls the other guy weak

then he gets mad when someone else calls him egocentric

then he mentions his deadlifting

then he gets mad when someone calls him egocentric

then he calls the other party mad using meme

then he logs off of the forums

then he logs on as a guest to secretly see what people are saying about him



Balton watch ~ summarizing dickheads since 1992

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

+1 to you sir, so accurate.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Braeden on February 18, 2011, 08:45:25 am
I give this essay the grade of "Team Jacob."
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Duster on February 18, 2011, 08:57:14 am
I give this essay the grade of "Team Jacob."

It's like Finished and Team Jacob got together to write the most awesome essay about crpg ever, and Keshian edited it
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Casimir on February 18, 2011, 09:24:51 am
Balton if you keep saying that your popular and everyone wishes they were you with such conviction you might start to believe.

Im pretty sure being popular means your liked by the majority. Contray to the norm, in your case this case it seems to have caused your fans to vote against you being unbanned.

Maybe your fans are trolling you?
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Baldr on February 18, 2011, 09:53:44 am
Oh I know this guy! He tried to kick me for.. well no one really knows why he tried. But then got kicked himself, that was a fun day.

Oh and a big Wasup to all my morning guys, you guys rule cRpg (between 05.00 and 06.00 Cet1)
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 18, 2011, 11:08:22 am
I give this essay the grade of "Team Jacob."

You mean, "Team teenage girls slobbering all over their dicks"? I am cool with that. But I must say, I dislike Twilight.

It's like Finished and Team Jacob got together to write the most awesome essay about crpg ever, and Keshian edited it

Don't you dare compare anything I have ever created to the miserable likes of Kesh. Now, back to your corner, think about what you have done.

Balton if you keep saying that your popular and everyone wishes they were you with such conviction you might start to believe.

Im pretty sure being popular means your liked by the majority. Contray to the norm, in your case this case it seems to have caused your fans to vote against you being unbanned.

Maybe your fans are trolling you?

You are quite misguided as to what popularity is. Do you know how many people hate Lil Wayne/Megan Fox/Justin Beiber/etc, do you not consider them to be popular? After-all, I am sure the people that dislike anyone of them far out-weigh the whole population of Warband. The same can be said with any other singer/actor/etc.

Popularity brings love and hate alike, it does not judge, it has no bias.

Oh I know this guy! He tried to kick me for.. well no one really knows why he tried. But then got kicked himself, that was a fun day.

Oh and a big Wasup to all my morning guys, you guys rule cRpg (between 05.00 and 06.00 Cet1)

Yes, with the popularity of my threads, it definitely is a good place to give shout-outs, how well-noticed of you.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: chadz on February 18, 2011, 11:26:29 am
It's like Finished and Team Jacob got together to write the most awesome essay about crpg ever, and Keshian edited it

 :lol:

also, unbanned with delay, because, as ptx said:
Doesn't even touch the subject.

UG (Ungraded)

It was well written, I don't mind the passive-aggressiveness, but stick to the goddamn topic.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: krampe on February 18, 2011, 12:24:32 pm
... Lil Wayne/Megan Fox/Justin Beiber...

Can someone shop lil wayne muscles, megan fox hair and justin biebers face into balton avatar please?
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Lansamur on February 18, 2011, 05:58:47 pm
Банан.
1
+1
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Thomas Dixon on February 18, 2011, 06:07:34 pm
why cant you be one of those kids who cuts him self like the other emos and blames the web
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Baldr on February 18, 2011, 08:27:46 pm
Quote from: Balton link=topic=2182.msg37326#msg37326 date=
Yes, with the popularity of my threads, it definitely is a good place to give shout-outs, how well-noticed of you.

Your not hated, you're like Paris Hilton. Laughed at for your self-unawareness, no one with any self respect would find that stick of a girl attractive; but for some unexplained reason she apperently think that she is.

This topic is as Miss Hilton would say "It's hot" for the exact same reason.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Philosiraptor on February 18, 2011, 10:59:00 pm
Hey, he may have missed the topic but he made some damn good points and overall, i love this kid. ME and Balton; we have connected yo. All you haters gonna hate all you noobs gonna get mad but at the ens of the day, y'all fools be spoutin off like you know about him. Give it a rest and let the pros be pros yall
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: SeQuel on February 18, 2011, 11:18:50 pm
Hey, he may have missed the topic but he made some damn good points and overall, i love this kid. ME and Balton; we have connected yo. All you haters gonna hate all you noobs gonna get mad but at the ens of the day, y'all fools be spoutin off like you know about him. Give it a rest and let the pros be pros yall

trolololololol mike
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Alex_C on February 19, 2011, 01:20:35 am
Sorry, I've been extremely inactive here.

Who is Balton and how have all of you let him troll you so easily? You guys used to be cool...
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: VicTheBear on February 19, 2011, 02:19:58 am
I started to read Balton's post.
Then I did this instead
(click to show/hide)

It was nice.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 19, 2011, 08:40:05 am
:lol:

also, unbanned with delay, because, as ptx said:
It was well written, I don't mind the passive-aggressiveness, but stick to the goddamn topic.

And all the haters were stricken down, whilst weeping tears of grief, mighty enough to conjure up lakes of pure woe.

Hey, he may have missed the topic but he made some damn good points and overall, i love this kid. ME and Balton; we have connected yo. All you haters gonna hate all you noobs gonna get mad but at the ens of the day, y'all fools be spoutin off like you know about him. Give it a rest and let the pros be pros yall

Clearly my talent is well recognized.

trolololololol mike

Denial won't get you very far.

I started to read Balton's post.
Then I did this instead
(click to show/hide)

It was nice.

No, Viccy, I will not fuck your ass. Go beg someone else.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Darkkarma on February 19, 2011, 08:52:39 am
For someone who has English as a second language, this was pretty well written. Well done!
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Grey on February 19, 2011, 07:49:47 pm
For someone who has English as a second language, this was pretty well written. Well done!

Trolled, he doesnt have english as 2nd language
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Goretooth on February 19, 2011, 09:11:32 pm
Make him gen 1 and move on.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Earthdforce on February 19, 2011, 09:35:45 pm
I started to read Balton's post.
Then I did this instead
(click to show/hide)

It was nice.

I failed... a lot.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 20, 2011, 12:19:57 am
For someone who has English as a second language, this was pretty well written. Well done!

Thanks :-)

Trolled, he doesnt have english as 2nd language

Your jealousy knows no bounds.

Make him gen 1 and move on.

Coming from the highest gen in the game, continue retiring everyday you no-life nerd.

I failed... a lot.

It's what you do best.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Professor on February 20, 2011, 06:23:22 am
Since when does Justin Bieber play CRPG..?
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Rextard on February 20, 2011, 08:20:04 am
Anybody else think we should start a poll to force Balton to change his name to Balton the Malevolent?

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=malevolent

Something about
No, Viccy, I will not fuck your ass. Go beg someone else.

in response to
 
I started to read Balton's post.
Then I did this instead
(click to show/hide)

It was nice.
seems neither benevolent nor demonstrative of a willingness to adhere to the rules of grade school reading comprehension.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=benevolent
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Darkkarma on February 20, 2011, 11:10:54 am
Trolled, he doesnt have english as 2nd language

I was being 100 percent sincere though! No sarcasm intended.  :(
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Krakatit on February 20, 2011, 12:01:50 pm
I was being 100 percent sincere though! No sarcasm intended.  :(

Man, he trolled you into thinking that he have english as second language :)

Btw i gave him 1 because he missed the theme...
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Darkkarma on February 20, 2011, 10:33:39 pm
Man, he trolled you into thinking that he have english as second language :)

Btw i gave him 1 because he missed the theme...

How am I being trolled if i'm not angry/upset/ trying to tell him he's wrong?   :(
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Sauce on February 20, 2011, 10:37:55 pm
Rise from your grave.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Boss_Awesome on February 21, 2011, 12:16:30 am
My opinion of this essay is that it is stupid.  In the previous incantation of cRPG the difference between a new player and a no lifer veteran, was absolutely astronomical.  A level 47 can absolutely own someone lower level than them far more often than not.  A lot of people were considered very skilled players mainly because their levels were so high.  The newest cRPG patch equalized the game quite a bit.  The difference between a level 32 or even 33 with full heirlooms and a level 30 is not even close to the difference between a level 31 player and a level 45 player. 

Also, the ladder system would be fun.  But what we really need is strategus back!  That is the place for people to go when they really want more out of this game than simple cRPG matches. 
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 21, 2011, 12:22:45 am
Since when does Justin Bieber play CRPG..?

My popularity based on the amount of people that know about my presence and the amount of people that talk about me can be compared on a linear scale with Bieber, and it does match a striking resemblance, it can actually be said that my popularity overwhelms his. Good eyes, thanks for the pointing that out, my fan.

Anybody else think we should start a poll to force Balton to change his name to Balton the Malevolent?

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=malevolent

Something about 
in response to
  seems neither benevolent nor demonstrative of a willingness to adhere to the rules of grade school reading comprehension.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=benevolent

Internet knight to the rescue. Surely the damsel in distress that you have rescued will now reward you with e-sex.

Man, he trolled you into thinking that he have english as second language :)

Btw i gave him 1 because he missed the theme...

The incredible number of people that keep claiming English is my first language can only be taken as a compliment, for you spawns have noticed my superiority across the board, and cannot help but bask in my glory. I love you too, my dear fans.

How am I being trolled if i'm not angry/upset/ trying to tell him he's wrong?   :(

Based on your smiley, it seems like they are the ones that are trolling you.

Rise from your grave.

A fan that does work for me, oh gosh, my tokens of power are increasing at an incomprehensible level.

My opinion of this essay is that it is stupid.  In the previous incantation of cRPG the difference between a new player and a no lifer veteran, was absolutely astronomical.  A level 47 can absolutely own someone lower level than them far more often than not.  A lot of people were considered very skilled players mainly because their levels were so high.  The newest cRPG patch equalized the game quite a bit.  The difference between a level 32 or even 33 with full heirlooms and a level 30 is not even close to the difference between a level 31 player and a level 45 player. 

Also, the ladder system would be fun.  But what we really need is strategus back!  That is the place for people to go when they really want more out of this game than simple cRPG matches. 

Just because improvements were applied to an old system that was deemed as 'astronomically' fucked up, doesn't mean the new system still isn't largely fucked up.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Delro on February 23, 2011, 11:30:06 pm
How come nobody has brought up the absolutely incomprehensible idea he put forth regarding something about linking ping to heirlooms?

Quote
Clearly, a player with a lower ping has an advantage over a player with a higher ping. So, to conclude this point: Give heirlooms based on ping rather than time invested into the game. But in what manner could such a system possibly be implanted, you might ask. Well, you see, myself being a jack-of-all-trades, as well as a genius, I have already come up with the answer to your woes (now you may sleep soundly at night). The solution would be to apply heirloom bonuses on items at a tick which would occur once every x amount of seconds. X is a specified range of numbers, one of the numbers in this range will be chosen at random, and will define what the timer is for the next heirloom tick. The range of x could be anything, but the range 1-60 seems like a solid base to start with. Anyway, this bores me, I am sure you can figure out the rest without me holding your hand.

I'd ask if he was high or something but we already know that by that point he must've been peaking. What the fuck does this even mean, dude? During a round your items would randomly gain bonuses or something? Based on ping? I guess for higher ping players the chances would be greater? How does that fix their inability to hit anybody in the first place due to lag? You are far from divinely inspired, man. At this point I'm convinced you suffer from a mild retardation.

In all seriousness, though, how hard is it to just write a few words on how you're sorry that you're a cheating douchebag, you realize you are a douchebag, and you will exhibit 100% less douchebaggery in the future? Look, I just wrote the essay for you.

chadz, server mods, please just permaban this kid's IP from the game and the forums and shut this shit down. If he's really sorry he'll move out of his parent's house just to play again. If not, no big loss. In fact, no loss at all.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: [ptx] on February 23, 2011, 11:48:05 pm
I do agree with the above post.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 24, 2011, 02:45:11 am
How come nobody has brought up the absolutely incomprehensible idea he put forth regarding something about linking ping to heirlooms?

I'd ask if he was high or something but we already know that by that point he must've been peaking. What the fuck does this even mean, dude? During a round your items would randomly gain bonuses or something? Based on ping? I guess for higher ping players the chances would be greater? How does that fix their inability to hit anybody in the first place due to lag? You are far from divinely inspired, man. At this point I'm convinced you suffer from a mild retardation.

In all seriousness, though, how hard is it to just write a few words on how you're sorry that you're a cheating douchebag, you realize you are a douchebag, and you will exhibit 100% less douchebaggery in the future? Look, I just wrote the essay for you.

chadz, server mods, please just permaban this kid's IP from the game and the forums and shut this shit down. If he's really sorry he'll move out of his parent's house just to play again. If not, no big loss. In fact, no loss at all.

What inability to hit people? Earlier today (~12 hours or so) I was topping the scoreboards on EU1 when it was nearly fully populated (100+ players). My ping there is ~240. Clearly if I can top the scoreboards with a ping of 240, then hitting their opponents is not a problem for high-ping players (skill permitting).

And yes, you understood my idea correctly, except the point was that the low ping players wouldn't receive heirlooms at all.

And umad I wrote an excellent piece of literature in which I did not apologize, but still got my char restored? Rage harder, kiddo, you wish you were as smooth-tongued as my divine-self.

I do agree with the above post.

You would like it if I was perma-banned, just so you could stop getting raped by me every-time we encounter each-other on the battlefield. S'all good brah, just keep sharpening your skills, maybe one day you will actually stand a chance against me.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Alex_C on February 24, 2011, 02:54:25 am
You would like it if I was perma-banned, just so you could stop getting raped by me every-time we encounter each-other on the battlefield. S'all good brah, just keep sharpening your skills, maybe one day you will actually stand a chance against me.

Look just below the '[pTx]' to the right of his post. You see the two words written there, 'Global Moderator'? What those mean is that if he wanted you perma-banned, you'd be perma-banned already.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 24, 2011, 03:02:06 am
Look just below the '[pTx]' to the right of his post. You see the two words written there, 'Global Moderator'? What those mean is that if he wanted you perma-banned, you'd be perma-banned already.

Only a child like you would ban people due to differences in personal opinions/skills. Have fun growing up, kid  8-)
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Alex_C on February 24, 2011, 03:09:48 am
Only a child like you would ban people due to differences in personal opinions.

Could you give me an example of a ban which is not the result of a difference in opinions?

Take into account that one's motivations will be based entirely on a set of opinions which you yourself hold to be the case.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: [ptx] on February 24, 2011, 09:51:16 am
The only time i have seen you ingame was in the first fallen tournament, where your spamming ass was the first i put down in one qualifying round.
And, no, only chadz can hand out DB bans. This isn't about opinions, this is about attitude. You are detrimental to this community, i bet a lot of people would want to see you gone, the rest not really caring.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Matey on February 24, 2011, 10:40:07 am
pretty sure i suggested perma banning him and being done with it earlier in this thread. as he is... he is of no value to the community except for the occasional laugh at his expense.

my advice to you balton... is stop posting on the forums. apply for a name change, and try to build up a new reputation under a new name. but since you are who you are, i fully expect you to keep doing what you're doing until you offend chadz enough that he removes you.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Balton on February 24, 2011, 11:45:31 am
Could you give me an example of a ban which is not the result of a difference in opinions?

Take into account that one's motivations will be based entirely on a set of opinions which you yourself hold to be the case.
The only time i have seen you ingame was in the first fallen tournament, where your spamming ass was the first i put down in one qualifying round.
And, no, only chadz can hand out DB bans. This isn't about opinions, this is about attitude. You are detrimental to this community, i bet a lot of people would want to see you gone, the rest not really caring.
pretty sure i suggested perma banning him and being done with it earlier in this thread. as he is... he is of no value to the community except for the occasional laugh at his expense.

my advice to you balton... is stop posting on the forums. apply for a name change, and try to build up a new reputation under a new name. but since you are who you are, i fully expect you to keep doing what you're doing until you offend chadz enough that he removes you.

You girls are so cute xD

Welcome to my fan club, all of you.

And ptx, your low intelligence is detrimental to my mental health, but you don't see me complaining.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Alex_C on February 24, 2011, 01:32:38 pm
You girls are so cute xD

Welcome to my fan club, all of you.

I can see that you're avoiding my question because you're intimidated by my superior intellect, it's fine I don't blame you, it's only natural for lesser beings to fear those superior to them.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Lansamur on February 25, 2011, 12:33:54 am
Could we close this? He unfortunately was unbanned, don't feed the troll even more.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Artyem on February 26, 2011, 12:49:29 am
Could we close this? He unfortunately was unbanned, don't feed the troll even more.

Feeding a "troll" like Balton is for entertainment, believe me, I get great joy from reading this thread.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Wiegraf_BRD on March 01, 2011, 09:24:42 pm
I see plagerism.  Fail.
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Delro on March 02, 2011, 03:48:03 pm
What inability to hit people? Earlier today (~12 hours or so) I was topping the scoreboards on EU1 when it was nearly fully populated (100+ players). My ping there is ~240. Clearly if I can top the scoreboards with a ping of 240, then hitting their opponents is not a problem for high-ping players (skill permitting).

And yes, you understood my idea correctly, except the point was that the low ping players wouldn't receive heirlooms at all.

And umad I wrote an excellent piece of literature in which I did not apologize, but still got my char restored? Rage harder, kiddo, you wish you were as smooth-tongued as my divine-self.

You would like it if I was perma-banned, just so you could stop getting raped by me every-time we encounter each-other on the battlefield. S'all good brah, just keep sharpening your skills, maybe one day you will actually stand a chance against me.

HA! The boy's so "smooth-tongued" he got himself perma-banned from the forums. Nice one!
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: djavo on February 27, 2012, 07:10:55 pm
nice essay
Title: Re: The Inevitable Rise of Greed and Grind in Online Games
Post by: Darkkarma on February 27, 2012, 07:13:47 pm
Almost a year later.. how'd you find this.