Actually I knew you were lying since the beginning of November, but there was little we could do about it. We have spies inside and out of Hospitaller so we know exactly how many troops they have and where at all times. On November 4th, Hospitaller had about 500 troops remaining, then around November 15th they had about 2500 and equipment for all that. It had to be support from the wolves, or at least you had to be aware of it, and since you made no action towards them or notified us, it was obvious what was going on.
At least i do my dirty work myself and don't get spies involved who do my evil bidding. So when you knew all that i wonder why all were acting so surprised or didn't you inform your own guys about it?
Lying was a big mistake in my opinion, you could have just been open about it. There was nothing we could have done about what you did, either way. But since you lied so much you really ruined your credibility and started 3 or 4 blood feuds that will follow you into the next round.
In the start it was a needed evil, where no i couldn't be open about it, without getting too much pressure at a time where we were in a weak position otherwise. It isn't like you choose that moment for only the reason you loved me. So being in a strong position when your guys made the talks was chosen wisely
if you would have been unsure about what i intend to do in this strat. (Also you never attending any meating ... only having your diplomats there ... man how can anything be for real if not those who are in the leadership positions are in those meetings, you kept yourself an exit strategy.)
But i told Nocti, okiN, Ujjin from the start what and where i was going to do it and at least 2 of these 3 spread the word later.
So with that in mind, how couldn't you know and why in hell did you keep trying to seperrate me from those i gave my word to. That is the point were i started lying you know, the constant efforts which had been done to sepperate me from those i was already in close cooperation and alliagence made me angry and if you and others don't want to get that point then fuck off.
It became through the talks quite clear, that out of the perspective form Mercs/Byznatium/Fallen/HRE clans like Pecores, CotgS, Hospitallers/Occitan even Templars(as they weren't invited, i brought them with me to those talks) would be quite worthless as they use up space, better used by you ^^. So when you always point out how dirty my lying is don't forget to mention, how low you think about other clans in general.
We choose then a time to end it where it suited us. About the credibility, our alliance hopefully survives in strat and those clans within the alliance know what i did, not only for me but also for them. Still Loki when you are all worked up about credability it sounds shallow, from what i heard from so many guys all around about you, there is nothing you could say what really would pain me, no offence i know it is just hearsay, but you know that is what credability is all about, what others think of you.
Frankly, neither the brigade nor hre has done anything to the wolves, in fact we tried to work with you guys since the 75vs75 tournament way back when. But I quickly got the vibe you were a wishy-washy pansy because you could never pick a side on anything, so I just disregarded you after that. At least you're picking a side now I suppose.
Is that a fact now ... lulz. Remember strat 2.0 FCC planted to skirmish mercs, HRE coming in behind, you all silent in the backyard. Me asking for NAP without any agreements. Well i picked there a partner for strat in the beginning and i stayed with them till the end. Same happens this strat, same will happen next strat. If then someone is still hurt in his feelings and wouldn't want to cooperate, that is up to him. While i see forming up an alliance from start to take you on also as a small payback, it wasn't the main reason, the NA/EU split of the map and the consequences because of that, the resulting situation in the desert was a chance to make a mark on the map and also getting clans together with a common goal. I myself don't hate neither Fallen nor HRE, but giving you a bit of your own medicin was not completly inrelevant in the process formulating a plan for this strat.