2H spammer or polearm spammer?

[Xelaris]

Some polearms are comparable with 2H swords damage and attack rating wise, so in theory a polearm spammer should keep up with a 2H one, but i have a gut feeling im wrong.
Please advise.

[DANK]

I would say Polearms are definity better spam weapons, because on average polearms weapon speed, and length is usually higher than the 2h equivalent.  2h damage is mostly consistently higher, which allows for kills in less hits.

As a new player I would say 2h's are easier to use and be good at than polearms, but if you know how to block well and learn your weapons; You can do very well with polearms as well.

[DarkFox]

Explain please what does word "spammer" means.

[Tears of Destiny]

Explain please what does word "spammer" means.

Someone who attacks often and is against an opponent who loses his/her cool and is unable to block correctly against the hits.

EDIT: Can also refer to a user who has a significantly faster weapon and wpf then you, which lowers the "window of opportunity" by a significant amount.

Last but not least, it can also refer to someone who never block. NBOH

[Xelaris]

Thank you for the fast replies

[Joseph]

Don't even think of a 2h to spam.

polearm has some major advantages
- reach
- damage (equivalent)
- AND STUN (very hard for your opponent to counter attack)

The 2h is a duelist weapon and the polearm a battle one. (My opinion)

TIP: don't forget your athletics if you want to spam, get in and get out of reach.

[karasu]

A polearm spammer might be more effective, due to the longer duration of the Stun effect after hit, comparing to 2 handers. Thats why you might see a lot of players ingame using Hafted Blade, or Long Hafted Blade, Glaive, or fast Staves, in order to "Stunlock" an opponent, which disregard being extremely lame, it's really effective.

Cheers.

[Xelaris]

I presume i can use the ninja build from the wiki and adapt it for polearms?
Level 30
Strength: 12
Agility: 27
Hit points: 47
Converted: 8
Power Strike: 4
Athletics: 9
Weapon Master: 9
Polearms: 181

[Beans]

With that low of STR you won't be using many polearms and with such low PS you are gonna need to stick to pierce/blunt which limits you more. Basically gonna be spears only, hope you are good at 180 stabbin.

181 polearm is completely unrequired for spears, you would be better off with just 5 weapons master.

[Xelaris]

How does this build sound?
15/24
5IF
5PS

8ATH
5WM
148 polearms

Talking about that, how much WM do i need for polearms in order to swing at max speed, I presume you cannot go past the weapon swing rate speed?

[Cyclopsided]

you have high agility but aren't maxing your skills. that is a terrible build. The only reason to have 24 agility is to have 8 ath and 8 WM in this case.


I want to note that spamming is just as easy if not more effective on a balanced build than an agility build. I can spam with 3 agility and double swing everybody. Agility stacking =/= better at spamming. Spamming is about stepping and swinging in the correct directions so your attacks hit faster than normal.

[Xelaris]

Modified, how about now

[Cyclopsided]

That works as a pretty decent agility stacking build. I kind of like it, agility build wise.

[Xelaris]

How much polearm do i need?
Does it have any effect if i go past a certain value?

[Cyclopsided]

you've got enough WPF, I actually added 15/24 to my Solid builds thread.
I'd max WM since the point is to be fast in an agility build, but 5 IF variant is good too.

Now, the thing about WPF you need to understand is that at 100 effective WPF you are using the weapon as its stats are listed in game. As you go up past 100 it is not a linear % increase, like 200 WPF being twice the stats. It is actually a rather small increase in speed and damage for every point past 100. There are diminishing returns in both how much WPF you get from WM with the WPF scale, and from each point in game. Don't get it wrong, more WPF is a good thing but it doesn't do that much. With 5 WM you have 148 WPF which is good enough, 8 WM will give you 173 which is barely a speed or damage increase at all. Armor weight decreases WPF and all weight carried added up decreases your running movement speed. A guy in plate with 150 WPF swings slower than a light armor guy with 110 WPF with the same weapon.