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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2011, 02:34:38 pm »
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Are you certain that 10->11 PS works properly though?

Nope.

Was fixed, but some people reported it wasn't working anymore.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2011, 02:51:37 pm »
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9 PS is enough, imo. 2 hits most people, while you can have 5 athletics with 3 wm. Love the speed.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2011, 04:16:46 pm »
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Are you certain that 10->11 PS works properly though?

Due to a glitch, it was supposed to work up to 15 but it did not, so the devs did a quick fix that has it working again on official EU servers....


So the answer is kinda, until the next patch comes out.

Anywho, I think I shall experiemnt with this for a bit the next time I am bored of my main.

Level 30

Strength: 27
Agility: 12
Hit points: 66
Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 9
Shield: 4
Athletics: 4
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 139

Thank you all for the interesting replies!
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 12:12:31 pm »
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I've been playing with the 33/9 build proposed by marathon and it's... damn powerfull.

Wearing nordic noble man outfit, straw hat and blue hose with a Nieuweueuueueweuidao and a heater shield (the brown one) I got a 2:1 kdratio pretty consistently on both battle and siege servers.
I don't notice a speed difference when fighting others, I don't feel slower than what I'm used to.

I'm saving goldies on my "Skip the fun" character now, so I can try using the build with my standard armour:
Kettle helmet
Heraldic mail with tabard
Mail Gauntlets
Mail Chauses

I wonder how much all that weight will slow me down in both movementspeed and swingspeed.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 12:37:10 pm »
+1
Due to a glitch, it was supposed to work up to 15 but it did not, so the devs did a quick fix that has it working again on official EU servers....


So the answer is kinda, until the next patch comes out.

Anywho, I think I shall experiemnt with this for a bit the next time I am bored of my main.

Level 30

Strength: 27
Agility: 12
Hit points: 66
Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 2
Power Strike: 9
Shield: 4
Athletics: 4
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 139

Thank you all for the interesting replies!


This is my next shielder build. I think Agi 4 is enough for not be a turtle. Tier 4 shields are good shield and it's not much difference from tier 5. Heavy board shield, and norman shields. PS 9 with a MW one handed rocks.

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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 07:34:03 pm »
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I'm using this build on my shielder alt and I still find it quite Balanced:

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 15
    * Hit points: 70
    * Converted: 2
    * Ironflesh: 7
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Shield: 5
    * Athletics: 5
    * Weapon Master: 5
    * One Handed: 148

Using huscarl or knightly kite shield and a Niuweidao or Elit Spamitar with a One Handed Battle Axe for turtle combat.
Don't underestimate the need for athletics.

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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 10:10:09 pm »
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I'm using this build on my shielder alt and I still find it quite Balanced:

    * Strength: 21
    * Agility: 15
    * Hit points: 70
    * Converted: 2
    * Ironflesh: 7
    * Power Strike: 7
    * Shield: 5
    * Athletics: 5
    * Weapon Master: 5
    * One Handed: 148

Using huscarl or knightly kite shield and a Niuweidao or Elit Spamitar with a One Handed Battle Axe for turtle combat.
Don't underestimate the need for athletics.

Cheers.
That is the best 1h build In my opinion, I'm just exploring tons of different ways of doing things that are maybe just as effective or more effective for different playstyles.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 10:11:58 pm »
+1
I've been playing with the 33/9 build proposed by marathon and it's... damn powerfull.

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I think the 27/15 build is better since you can close on people faster and can't be backpeddled. the 33/9 gets back peddled fairly easily if you chase. If you play smartly with the 33/9 though, hahahahaha oh god. The scimitar/elite scimitar kills just rack up.

*Accidental double post, meant to edit my post above. I can't delete this one or merge them together so lolololol forums.
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Also, I have declared myself #1 NA hybrid thrower
Formerly known as Marathon.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 12:01:14 pm »
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I think the 27/15 build is better since you can close on people faster and can't be backpeddled. the 33/9 gets back peddled fairly easily if you chase. If you play smartly with the 33/9 though, hahahahaha oh god. The scimitar/elite scimitar kills just rack up.

*Accidental double post, meant to edit my post above. I can't delete this one or merge them together so lolololol forums.

It requires a different playstyle yes. Gonna try the build with a steel pick as soon as I have enough gold :)
I've tried loads of builds now and it doesn't really matter which build I use, my kd ratios are usually about 2:1 or slightly higher. Some rounds you kill 5-10 people and the next 3 rounds you get shot/lanced/tked without making a kill.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2011, 12:45:53 pm »
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dunno if this is the right place to post but what do you guys think about this build:
Strength    27
Agility    12   

One Handed    125

Skills

Power Strike    9
Shield    4
Athletics 4   
Weapon Master    2
Riding 4
with MW arabian cavalry sword and light armour
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2011, 02:50:21 pm »
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dunno if this is the right place to post but what do you guys think about this build:
Strength    27
Agility    12   

One Handed    125

Skills

Power Strike    9
Shield    4
Athletics 4   
Weapon Master    2
Riding 4
with MW arabian cavalry sword and light armour

You're going to kill the people you hit for sure.
My only worry is that 4 riding will make you easy pickings for every other cav around. Both lancers and HA's usually have 6 riding or even more, which will make them faster and more manouverable.

If you can stay out of trouble though, it could work just fine.

PS
Regarding the 33/9 build with a steel pick: It tears people apart. Best used in sieges though, less space for the enemy to jump around in.
It's just sad that when I did a 33/9 build with a bec de corbin I had more reach and I could 1 hit everything in less than 30 armour and would need 3 hits tops for 60-70 armour.
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Re: Traditional shielder VS non-traditional. How much wpf?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2011, 04:05:53 pm »
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Im using the 24-15 build atm,

Im level 31 and I have about 3 iron flesh,

Im just gonna keep grinding and gaining IF slowly,


I am not sure if there is a big difference between a ps of 8 and 7
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