Solid Builds

[Erzengel]

good build?

horse - warhorse
heavy armor

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Level:           30

Strength:        18
Agility:         21

Attr to skill:    1
Skill to attr:   10

Ironflash:        6
Power Strike:     6
Shield:           3
Riding:           7
Weapon Master:    1

One Handed:     116
^{using cRPG NewGen calc}

Wouldn't play without Athletics tbh. There are lots of situations where you have to fight on foot. Drop the WM and some IF and get atleast 5 Athletics. Or go for a 18/18 build, which is much better if you plan to retire at level 31/32.

[MountDire]

It's my first time playing, and I want to go the sword and board footknight route for my first dude. I looked at a few pages but couldn't really find anything.

Anyone got a good build? Some tips on weapons would be appreciated too 

[Clockworkkiller]

It's my first time playing, and I want to go the sword and board footknight route for my first dude. I looked at a few pages but couldn't really find anything.

Anyone got a good build? Some tips on weapons would be appreciated too 

Try the 21/15 build in the original post, as its a fairly good build (atleast for me)
As for weapons, it's really a preference. I would suggest grabbing a warhammer or a pick when you can afford one, I generally dislike cut weapons, as I find them a little too weak, but there's plenty of players who use them. Also, go for the shorter, faster weapons, as I find them better than the longer ones.

Just my advice, of course I'm probably not the best source for it.

[Ronin]

It's my first time playing, and I want to go the sword and board footknight route for my first dude. I looked at a few pages but couldn't really find anything.

Anyone got a good build? Some tips on weapons would be appreciated too 

As suggested, 21/15 should be fine. But I'd pick a sword with that build, especially a long one.

good build?

horse - warhorse
heavy armor

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Level:           30

Strength:        18
Agility:         21

Attr to skill:    1
Skill to attr:   10

Ironflash:        6
Power Strike:     6
Shield:           3
Riding:           7
Weapon Master:    1

One Handed:     116
^{using cRPG NewGen calc}

Ride or Die!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BWR-PAWJdSk#t=28s

[Toffeegerbil]

Is it viable to do the 27/12 polearm build this way:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 30
    Agility: 12
    Hit points: 62

    Skills to attributes: 11

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 10
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 4
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 4

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you lose 1 shield (useless) and 7hp from Ironflesh ( 3 gained from additional str). For an additional point in PS.
I think extra damage at the expense of 7hp is acceptable.

Thoughts?

[Cyclopsided]

Is it viable to do the 27/12 polearm build this way:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 30
    Agility: 12
    Hit points: 62

    Skills to attributes: 11

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 10
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 4
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 4

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you lose 1 shield (useless) and 7hp from Ironflesh ( 3 gained from additional str). For an additional point in PS.
I think extra damage at the expense of 7hp is acceptable.

Thoughts?

yes, 30/12 is a common and fun build. Rhaelys took it to high level and fleshed it out and made it boss, too.

[Chris_the_Animal]

http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm

not working for me anymore
does somebody else have same problem? just not connecting to the page when im opening it 

[Patoson]

not working for me anymore
does somebody else have same problem? just not connecting to the page when im opening it 

Use this now: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/

[Chris_the_Animal]

Use this now: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/

i just found it but the other one is more familiar to me 

[Angellore]

Use this now: http://alpha-lider19.ru/MB/

Or use cRPG Character Builder application which will work all the time .
You can download it HERE.

[Cyclopsided]

i just found it but the other one is more familiar to me 

yeah it went down, so it goes.

[Shaksie]

Strength:        21
Agility:         18

Skills to attributes:    8

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:        4
Power Draw:       7
Weapon Master:    6

One Handed:      81
Archery:        142

Will this work? I want to be a pretty decent archer but I don't want to be horrid at melee. I'm assuming that 18/18 doesn't have enough power draw to do good damage, but if it does then that is most probably better because I will be able to get 2 more athletics and put 5 into ironflesh. I'm pretty decent at melee so I don't think ironflesh is THAT important when stats like power draw are at stake, but it is certainly better than nothing.

I will be using +3 Long Bow with +3 Bodkin Arrows and probably just a Broad Short Sword as they are so hard to get loomed variants of .

[Cyclopsided]

Strength:        21
Agility:         18

Skills to attributes:    8

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:        4
Power Draw:       7
Weapon Master:    6

One Handed:      81
Archery:        142

Will this work? I want to be a pretty decent archer but I don't want to be horrid at melee. I'm assuming that 18/18 doesn't have enough power draw to do good damage, but if it does then that is most probably better because I will be able to get 2 more athletics and put 5 into ironflesh. I'm pretty decent at melee so I don't think ironflesh is THAT important when stats like power draw are at stake, but it is certainly better than nothing.

I will be using +3 Long Bow with +3 Bodkin Arrows and probably just a Broad Short Sword as they are so hard to get loomed variants of .

6 PD is all you need. Get more archery wpf. 50 1h wpf is enough to be good at melee, don't put anymore as an archer than 50 1h wpf.
WPF is really important to archery. VERY IMPORTANT TO ARCHERY.
For that very reason my main character is a level 32 18/27 longbowman with 9 WM all into archery.

So yeah if you want to be an archer that melees, go 18/18 or 18/21

[Shaksie]

6 PD is all you need. Get more archery wpf. 50 1h wpf is enough to be good at melee, don't put anymore as an archer than 50 1h wpf.
WPF is really important to archery. VERY IMPORTANT TO ARCHERY.
For that very reason my main character is a level 32 18/27 longbowman with 9 WM all into archery.

So yeah if you want to be an archer that melees, go 18/18 or 18/21

I see, thanks. How important is aths?
And if I get 80 wpf in 1h, I will only have 152 archery wpf as opposed to 159 if I get 50 wpf, will 7 really make that much difference?

Strength:        18
Agility:         21

Skills to attributes:    8

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:        4
Power Draw:       6
Weapon Master:    7

One Handed:      80
Archery:        152

And how heavy is your armor?
At the moment I'm using 0.4 helmet, 8.5 body, 0.1 gloves, 0.9 boots.

[Cyclopsided]

I see, thanks. How important is aths?

Athletics is of utmost importance, but yes you cut it in 18/21 to 4 at level 30 (but if you get level 31 you pump it to 7 ath)

And if I get 80 wpf in 1h, I will only have 152 archery wpf as opposed to 159 if I get 50 wpf, will 7 really make that much difference?

Yes it will make that much of a difference with archery. I find it quite noticeable. Man, seriously, believe me about 50 1h wpf. Stop trying to have all this unneeded melee wpf. You don't need that much wpf in melee anyways. melee wpf does not do nearly as much as ranged wpf does for effectiveness.

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WPF matters so much for archery, to the point that my archer build is stupidly dedicated: 18/27 (level 32) with 6 PD, 9 WM, 2 ath (I had 0 ath until lvl 32) ==> which results in 182 WPF for archery.
What does that get me? Near pinpoint accuracy across the map. I am accurate within the size of somebody's head at 300 yards with the longbow. I am even more accurate with the weaker bows, literally the arrows follow the identical path each shot. Robin hood status.
Every little bonus to wpf adds up. Every subtraction adds up.
Proof of the value of accurate archery: Note how the kills were headshots (more than half of the 18 were headshots // with the last two in the screen being headshots) Highest score, highest kills, carrying server. THIS WAS WITH 0 ATHLETICS AND LONGBOW (which takes 5ever to re-draw). Rus bow is better for sure in performance for that reason.

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Point being: with in-game accuracy (from wpf, etc) and a bit of practice, you can make every shot you fire hit ~Somebody~ for damage. But no matter how good you are, if your bow is inaccurate you're going to miss a lot.
ALSO WPF INCREASES ARCHERY DAMAGE BY A LOT. MY 18/27 ARCHER DOES COMPARABLE DAMAGE TO A 30/15 ARCHER [though recent changes have made 30/15 do more damage nowadays, 18/27 is still more effective due to accuracy and fire rate]

Strength:        18
Agility:         21

Skills to attributes:    8

Power Strike:     6
Athletics:        4
Power Draw:       6
Weapon Master:    7

One Handed:      80
Archery:        152

And how heavy is your armor?
At the moment I'm using 0.4 helmet, 8.5 body, 0.1 gloves, 0.9 boots.

I personally suggest a lighter body armor, but that is a personal decision. you are receiving an accuracy penalty from it lowering your wpf with that set up, but if you find your survivability to be higher -- it may be worth it for you. But I don't.
My armor is weighted:
head: 0, Body: 1.5, Gloves: 0, Boots: 3.0
PLEASE NOTE THAT I WEAR ARMOR FOR STYLE AND TO MAKE SURE I HAVE NO PENALTIES OT MOVEMENT SPEED SPCIFICALLY. I don't suggest the same armor set up.

A more effective archer set up would be:
head: 0, body: 5 ~ 6, Gloves: 0.1, Boots: 0~1
that would result in no (or very little) wpf penalty and light-medium body armor, and thus decent survivability.