Bill vs Bec

[Joker86]

It was said, this thing has no sideswing. I think this is very important fighting cavalry. 

[chief]

It was said, this thing has no sideswing. I think this is very important fighting cavalry. 

An overhead can be just as effective as a side swing when dealing with cav, stop it with a thrust and take down the horse with an overhead. Plus, I'm pretty sure they want to avoid having really long weapons that have sideswings, (for FF and balancing purposes).

[Joker86]

Yeah, of course, you are right. But sometimes a sideswing can do wonders, as it should go against the riding direction and thus getting insane speed bonus. A very important tool for anti-cav-players. Especially with long polearms.

[chief]

Yeah, of course, you are right. But sometimes a sideswing can do wonders, as it should go against the riding direction and thus getting insane speed bonus. A very important tool for anti-cav-players. Especially with long polearms.

I would personally love for it to have sideswings, balance wise,, I don't think it would happen. Beg for a long bill and a short bill.

[Vexus]

Honestly not only the Bill is underpowered even the halberd which lost bonus to shield and swingable.

If nothing changes on them one is better using long voulge then any of them plus it's swingable.

[bredeus]

agrred halber now is really hard to use

[Joxer]

Sory, I meant to say spear like weapon instead of polearm. Was tired

[Joker86]

Wasn't in the game yet: halberds can't be swung any more? 

Well, although I was shocked as I read this, during work I thought a bit about it, and it seems fine to me. Halberds are long weapons with a heavy head, and polearms are meant for fighting over distance, mainly by stabbing. Also I think we need a bigger difference between two handed weapons and some polearms. So let's have a try with it. 

[Vexus]

Yes but check it's stats and they removed bonus to shields which is the point of using an axe.

[Joker86]

Yeah, I would have let them at least this 

[UrLukur]

I approve removal of side swings, been looking for such weapon for ages. I would roll polearm, but with my extremely limited time for the game it's hard task. Since the patch i managed to level one goon to lvl 26

[Tai Feng]

I also don't understand what the niche of Bill is. Stats look horrible.

Anti-cavalry weapon? Pike beats it at all it does. Anti-cavalry weapon isn't the one that requires cavalry to bump into something and some to a full-stop - every weapon is anti-cavalry one at that moment.


I would love to have some refreshing unique weapon, a long one with good upper swing only might be fun, but Bill just doesn't cut it.

[Noble Crassius]

Wasn't in the game yet: halberds can't be swung any more? 

Well, although I was shocked as I read this, during work I thought a bit about it, and it seems fine to me. Halberds are long weapons with a heavy head, and polearms are meant for fighting over distance, mainly by stabbing. Also I think we need a bigger difference between two handed weapons and some polearms. So let's have a try with it. 

Lu bu could swing his halberd...just saying 

[chief]

Overhead damage has been raised to 31, this is reasonable, thank you crpg devs.

[Vexus]

Yea but halberd is still crap for it's price.