fix pikes?

[Yaron]

Colliding with surfaces(ground) is planned with WSE and it will create epic lulz and rage. I'm looking forward to it.

Well, I think there will be just used other ways to glitch the aniamtion ... be it by spinning around or by piking into the air instead of the ground... i am pretty sure it won't help that much.
I am guessing we are talking about the Long Spear. It's mainly a support and anti-cav weapon. In 1vs1 situation you mostly will fail with a Long Spear, if your enemy isnt a complete retard or noob. So there is no reason to gimp it even further for this situations ...

Let me guess. You don't play the game very much.

More then you appearently, you are invited to show me how you will defeat me with a pike/Long Spear in Duell.

[ManOfWar]

What about pikes going through teamates and hitting the enemy?


Has that been addressed?

[Yaron]

What about pikes going through teamates and hitting the enemy?


Has that been addressed?

Well, thats right. Overhead spamming through teammates = lulz

[Penitent]

what is WSE?

[Seawied]

Colliding with surfaces(ground) is planned with WSE and it will create epic lulz and rage. I'm looking forward to it.

Nice. Stab abusers of the glitch annoy me to no end.

[Siboire]

I'm a decent melee fighter and with a long spear I just lulz at it's speed. For it's lenght and trust damage + capacity to overhead, it is indeed too fast. Often if I manage to stab a guy in the back or while he's fighting a teamate, with the stunlock of polearm, I'm able to spam him with 1-2 more stabs and kill him before he can even block me.

[Joxer]

Pike & Long spear are the worst dueling weapons in the game. If you lose against them and then come here to ask for nerfs then you need to go die in a lava lake. 

[zagibu]

There are many worse dueling weapons than the long spear. At least you can block with it.

Looking forward to surface-colliding. 1h will be the new rage on siege.

[Malaclypse]

Long Spear is a great dueling weapon imo, Pike not as much.

[Linx]

More then you appearently, you are invited to show me how you will defeat me with a pike/Long Spear in Duell.

Sorry, I don't use the lolpike and lolspear. You're free to fight (can't remember his name) ATS member who uses the lolspear and rapes at it because of the ability to hit someone point blank with it and then tell me how awesome you are when you lose.

It is true, if you lose as inf against a guy with a weapon that can not block, you are not doing it right.

You don't play much either for the simple fact that you can block with long spear and pike.


Edit: I just bought a pike. Confirmed can block with it. Your post was probably the most idiotic I have seen to date. I'm also 7/2 and I'm naked with the pike.

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Thank you very much. Try again.

[Pellegrino]

Btw long spear is too fast to be a support weapon. Before i said pike but i mean long spear.
Siboire tell the truth, long spear is too fast and after the stun u can spam 1-2 more hits and your enemy can do nothing...

[MouthnHoof]

81 is too fast for the long spear with only 2 attacks, one of which does 15b (between the peasant cudgel and club...)?

I actually find the longer animation of long thrusting weapons "useful" - this is what allows one to make a thrusting "area attack" because in the half a second it takes to complete the swing anything that will cross the line of the pike will register as a hit, even if you rotate it about. This is the same as the effect of slower swinging weapons being easier to be used from horseback due to the timing of the swing being less critical. I find it incredibly annoying when I get hit by the pike because it is slow, thrusted in a random direction and rotated into me.

[Vibe]

Pike is way too bugged. Glitches through teammates and walls with ease. Not long spear, but pike.

[Bulzur]

I'm a decent melee fighter and with a long spear I just lulz at it's speed. For it's lenght and trust damage + capacity to overhead, it is indeed too fast. Often if I manage to stab a guy in the back or while he's fighting a teamate, with the stunlock of polearm, I'm able to spam him with 1-2 more stabs and kill him before he can even block me.

Huh ? 
Are you telling me you manage to stunlock someone with a longspear ?
Excuse me, but i thought the stunlock is what happens when you use a heavy polearm (poleaxe for example) against a light weapon (1h sword), and when the 1hsword blocks, it gets stunned a bit. No such thing as a polearm stunlock when you "hit" someone. That's the "normal" stun when succesfully hitting someone, and not bouncing off him.


If you loose to a pike in 1v1, you were doing it very wrong.
If you loose to a longspear in 1v1, you were doing it wrong.
If you loose to a spear/awlpike in 1v1, means your opponent was just better than you, like in other duels.

If you loose vs 2 of thoses aboves, it's normal. Teamworking with long pointy sticks means a big win.

Thoses polearms are support weapon. Anticav, small poking and overhead assist. That's all.

[PhantomZero]

Long spears are adequate dueling weapons in the hands of a skilled polearmsman.

But the real problem is that Long Spears and Pikes are only 2 slots.

I thought it was fine when they were only 3 slots.

Now 2H just pick up a Pike to ward off cavalry and then drop it when they get into a fight with someone else. Why should 2H players be so effective against both cavalry and other infantry?

Leave Long Spears and Pikes to the dedicated polearms who can use them in close quarters as well as ward off cav, not just a conveniance weapon like throwing axes used to be or crossbows are now.