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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2011, 03:10:36 pm »
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It's called blocking. HRE has good anti-pikemen. Ask them.
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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2011, 06:07:06 pm »
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if you lose to a pikeman in a one on one situation, it means you're bad and the other person is good.

I am a 30-9 str build and i can 2 shot everyone with a stab and even 2 shot unarmored fools with the overhead. I can't maneuver at all and get surrounded a lot because of my low agi and ath. So what do i do? i drop my pike and get out my GLA and one hit people.

In a 1v1 situation, spin thrust is the ONLY thing you really have to worry about. I mean come on, can't you block down?

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2011, 06:23:34 pm »
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if you lose to a pikeman in a one on one situation, it means you're bad and the other person is good.

Harlequin is not a bad player, trust me on that one.

Which leads to the next question:

How the fuck did you lose, Harle? Only kickstab to the face should be able to take you down without you doing something really wrong. :|
I voted Gurnisson cause of his fucking bendy pike, I swear noone can roflcopter stab like he can.

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2011, 07:36:46 pm »
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i heard about the 22nd, didn't they ahve pikes in native? its like the exact same mechanics as in CRPG

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2011, 10:58:03 pm »
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Pff, I wonder if you can survive over 1.2 secs in native with a pike without being headshotted thrice.

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2011, 11:21:17 pm »
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Pff, I wonder if you can survive over 1.2 secs in native with a pike without being headshotted thrice.

^^^ this is why i play crpg. Why have those weapons when range spam pretty much requires you to have a shield

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2011, 12:30:05 am »
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If a pikeman (Pike: Speed 68) can hit faster than you, nothing can help, not even lessons with Chuck Norris.
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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2011, 03:03:59 am »
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I think that with "pike" he means the old one.

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2011, 11:04:06 am »
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Well, since they need pretty few strength to use it, all the rest goes up to agility, which means higher prof and higher athletics. Even if he doesn't hit faster, most of the times he can jump outside my range while spinstabbing 360000 degrees and killing me. ( I'd add that pikes some times kill horse+horseman in 1 hit, even though it's not really the main topic of the thread ).

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2011, 11:11:10 am »
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If he can do it with a pike, he can do it with any other weapon as well and way easier (and not just stab). Also, high agi pikers either bounce or do negligible damage, when spinthrusting at facehugging range.

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2011, 11:22:07 am »
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If he can do it with a pike, he can do it with any other weapon as well and way easier (and not just stab). Also, high agi pikers either bounce or do negligible damage, when spinthrusting at facehugging range.

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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2011, 07:05:10 pm »
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I think that with "pike" he means the old one.
Well the long spear is also slow with 81 spd.
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Re: fix pikes?
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2011, 01:09:27 am »
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There is some weird shit going on with the long pikes. They seem to be so long they don't even clip with the ground. You can completely dominate really close range fights by aiming down at their feet because if you miss and hit the ground it just sails right through. If you tried to poke straight forward it would rebound and your guy in stunned for a second letting them get a hit on you.

Strangely enough I've noticed it depends on the map/ground. Almost all maps let you thrust your pike right through the ground no problem but some have raised cobbled roads that actually make it bounce up.

Spin stabbing is silly but comes with all pokey weapons, aiming at the ground and going right through is the really funky shit pikes can do.