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Offline Ghazan

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 04:37:44 pm »
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I think archers needed this buff a bit.  They were hardly noticable before, and even now much less than in native. 

There has to be a balance between the 3 classes and not just have everything stacked in favor of melee.

I think with the cav nerf it will affect them the most as they make the easiest targets for archers.

BTW its easy to approach an archer.  Just run at him, when he draws and is about to shoot, raise your shield and do a side step (which will often make him miss) then drop your shield and run at him again.  The annimation is still much slower than native.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2011, 04:43:23 pm »
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yes.. yess.....

+4 damage on that bodkin. the world... it has ended. 50% HP, gone. before it was only 25%. that 4 damage... no, chadz. what have you done. all i wanted to do was ride a marmulk horse... may the paladins rise again...


You have no clue how damage work in this game. +4 damage means about +7 to +14 damage ( or something like this, including positive speed bonus) total for PD 5, so it lead to drastic increase in damage output. How high is hp of casual player ? From 50 to 75.

It's now stacked against melee.
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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2011, 04:47:22 pm »
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Lovely, now maps are full of archers and I can't move an inch without having to dance or hide behind a tree again.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2011, 04:51:11 pm »
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 :idea:
get a shield

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2011, 04:55:08 pm »
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Doesn't work when those soulless minions of hell are all over the place.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2011, 05:00:06 pm »
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Get shielders all over the place.
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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2011, 05:04:41 pm »
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:idea:
get a shield

So as a 2H/Polearm user I'm supposed to screw my build with useless shield points just for archer repellent?

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2011, 05:09:21 pm »
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So as a 2H/Polearm user I'm supposed to screw my build with useless shield points just for archer repellent?

Wear armor, learn to dodge, use terrain to your advantage, complain less.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2011, 05:09:57 pm »
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So as a 2H/Polearm user I'm supposed to screw my build with useless shield points just for archer repellent?

The fact you dont carry a shield and are susceptible to arrows mean the game is working as intended.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2011, 05:11:09 pm »
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The fact you dont carry a shield and are susceptible to arrows mean the game is working as intended.

Nah, working like intended would be if armor would protect against arrows, not forcefield.
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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2011, 05:17:11 pm »
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The fact you dont carry a shield and are susceptible to arrows mean the game is working as intended.

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2011, 05:18:32 pm »
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we want justice we want justice we want justice.......keep that balance between the classes!!!

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2011, 05:26:16 pm »
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Yep, arhcers are supposed to keep 2 handers in check.  You can still take a low or no req shield as a 2 hander, but you shouldnt be able to run around so freely without a shield.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2011, 05:28:01 pm by Ghazan »

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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2011, 05:28:58 pm »
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Carry a shield doesn't change anything, with 2 shots in the legs i'm dead...
What is funny is that archers give the same answer that they give before patch (when it was clearly unbalanced) you tell us to grab a shield... Priceless.

What is strange (or clear) is that with this new release a lot of ppl use there archer character, and server are full of them, again a medieval counterstrike, not funny and boring.

Item balancers show us that this mod could be balanced before .210 release, they show us that melee can have fun. Now we have tasted it, they carry it away, that's pretty frustrating and it leaves a bitter taste. But thx i enjoyed this game for few days.
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Re: Archers buffed too much
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2011, 05:30:22 pm »
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An archer isn't supposed to top scoreboards because they are a support class

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