Weapon Proficiency Costs

[Gafferjack]

As of late 2013, with the new WPF system put into place, the information contained within this thread is outdated. As if anybody actually looked at it past 2012.

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A poorly put-together post detailing the WPP costs for each point of WPF.

WPP = Weapon Proficiency Points
WPF = Weapon Proficiency

You start with 30 WPP at character level 1.
Each character level after that gives 4 + (new character level/5) WPP, rounded up.
Each level of Weapon Master gives (10*new WM level) + 20 WPP.

2-50 = 1 WPP/point
51-71 = 2 WPP/point
72-87 = 3 WPP/point
88-100 = 4 WPP/point
101-112 = 5 WPP/point
113-123 = 6 WPP/point
124-133 = 7 WPP/point
134-142 = 8 WPP/point
143-150 = 9 WPP/point
151-159 = 10 WPP/point
160-166 = 11 WPP/point
167-174 = 12 WPP/point
175-181 = 13 WPP/point
182-188 = 14 WPP/point
189-194 = 15 WPP/point
195-200 = 16 WPP/point
201-207 = 17 WPP/point
208-213 = 18 WPP/point
214-??? = 19 WPP/point

It can be assumed that the number of WPF in each section is reduced by one for every higher tier of WPP, so you can easily plan out higher WPFs numbers if needed.

Below is a chart detailing the total cumulative WPP cost for each tier. Credit to Mouse for his awesome idea.

WPF 50 / 49 WPP
WPF 71 / 91 WPP
WPF 87 / 139 WPP
WPF 100 / 191 WPP
WPF 112 / 251 WPP
WPF 123 / 317 WPP
WPF 133 / 387 WPP
WPF 142 / 459 WPP
WPF 150 / 531 WPP
WPF 159 / 621 WPP
WPF 166 / 698 WPP
WPF 174 / 794 WPP
WPF 181 / 885 WPP
WPF 188 / 983 WPP
WPF 194 / 1073 WPP
WPF 200 / 1169 WPP
WPF 207 / 1288 WPP
WPF 213 / 1396 WPP

[Mouse]

Thank you, this is very useful for planning. *edit snip*

[Gafferjack]

Edit: Updated the original post with the new information and fixed chart. Also fixed a typo.

[Knute]

Thank you, very useful.

[MayPeX]

Wait are you saying that we shouldn't put points onto weapon master until were like level 30 to gain the highest WPP for our characters?

[Freland]

Thank you - helped me a lot!

[Ishar]

Wait are you saying that we shouldn't put points onto weapon master until were like level 30 to gain the highest WPP for our characters?

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[kura]

Each level of Weapon Master gives (10*level) + 20 WPP.
Each character level gives 5 + (level/5) WPP, rounded down.

lvl of char or WM?

[Nick_Larking]

Now could you also find out how usefull wfp is for accurecy or damage
I got 150archery wpf and getting higher doesnt seem to make a difference (both on horse or on foot)

[Gafferjack]

I clarified the original post so that people wouldn't get confused over the WPP gained from WM and leveling.

Now could you also find out how usefull wfp is for accurecy or damage

You can probably substitute Melee Weapon Damage for ranged weapons in Vargas' webtool:
http://infinitum.dyndns.org/crpg/calc.htm

It might not be 100% accurate for ranged weapons, but it's a good estimation.
You can test accuracy yourself in Single Player; just make sure you have the exact PD that the bow requires so you don't get false accuracy readings.

[Moscher]

Its updated in Crpg Guide, big thx:-)

[Corwin]

OK, it seems like I just can't decide. I need your guys advice. I wanted to start specialization in polearm after lvl31 where I would get another WPP bonus. In that case, I would have to invest all skill points to riding, to get at least a destrier or courser. I just wanted to ride a horse a little bit. Is it worth it, or should I still invest all in two handed weapons, and wait after the retirement for new specialization? I understand that two handed weapons don't work well when used on horse?




Age   44 [29]
Experience   3886100
Level up at   4420577
Kills   497
Death   1014
Gold   21015
Generation   1
Attribute Points   0
Skill Points   2
Weapon Proficiency Points   147
Convert 2 Skill Points into 1 Attribute point.    


Strength   15   
Agility   22   


One Handed   1   [1 WPF cost] 
Two Handed   148   [9 WPF cost] 
Polearm   1   [1 WPF cost] 
Archery   1   [1 WPF cost] 
Crossbow   1   [1 WPF cost] 
Throwing   1   [1 WPF cost] 

Ironflesh   3   
Power Strike   5   
Shield   3   
Athletics   4   
Riding   0   
Horse Archery   0   
Power Draw   0   
Power Throw   0   
Weapon master *   7   

[Gafferjack]

I'd put the points in Polearms and try out riding horses if you're just going to retire anyway. This way you can see if you like it or not and plan for the next generation.

I understand that two handed weapons don't work well when used on horse?

This isn't neccesarily true. Two-handed weapons are more suited to bumpslashing than Polearms are, unless you use an extremely short Polearm. They also don't need as much space to get a clean hit when your horse is stopped.

[Ujin]

What's been botherin me for a while now is the big question - is it worth putting all WPF points in one weapon specialization (polearms for my cav guy in my case), considering the ultra high price for 150 +. Getting weapon master 7 gives the opportunity to either max out your main weapon spec., or take a secondary one. Really can't decide. -)

[Blondin]

MayPeX, no, the formula for weapon master is :
Each level of Weapon Master gives (10*new Weapon Master level) + 20 WPP
Your char level doesn't matter and doesn't change the amount of weapon proficiency point you gain.

Beside thabt you gain some weapon proficiency point at each level.