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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #120 on: April 30, 2019, 05:05:46 pm »
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Logical deaths that didn't happen:

Drogon dying to wights, Daenerys dying with Jorah to them later on.
Rhaegal dying to Viserion mid-flight.
Night King .in 1v1 (or at least killing him by sacrificing Khaleesi like in prophecy)
Sam dying to wights right after the scene when Jon left him hanging.
Mormont girl dying like a girl without killing anyone.
Jorah Mormont dying with dotrakis like a fool.
Grey Worm dying with the rest of unsullied outside of the walls defending retreating men.
Brienne of Tarth dying in the fight against wights or alternatively a giant so that Tormund tries to save her.
Sansa and Tyrion committing suicide with the given dagger.
Tormund dying like Lyanna Mormont (killing a giant seconds before dying to traumas caused by it)
Sir Davos dying saving a girl with a scar from fire.
Arya dying saving Sandor Clegane from fire.
Mellisandre dying exploding herself with a huge fire and taking some white walkers.
Bran dying from being useless.
Arya dying while trying to kill white walkers with white walker face.

etc

I expected at least 10 characters to die and the whole outcome of the battle makes the 2nd episode even more meaningless (not to say 7 previous seasons lol).

When I first heard about feminist lobby in GoT series I was like "haha, really?", but now I'm at the point where it is so obvious that it's annoying. All the male characters were super useless, stupid and miserable:

Jorah Mormont charged with dotrakis like retard and wasted them all for nothing.
Grey Worm just fed whitewalkers with more unsullied and was about to betray them by leaving them to death.
Bran was literally useless, what a joke.
Sandor Clegane was scared and afraid to fight.
Jon Snow not doing shit the whole episode as well, randomly flying and being a casual random fighter.
etc

Now look at female characters:
Daenerys being a brave girl that helped a lot with her dragon and dismounted Night King.
Mellisandre firing things here and there
Lyanna Mormont even being a useless girl - still killed a giant like a strong independent woman.
Arya - killed the fucking Night King like a boss.


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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #121 on: April 30, 2019, 06:01:14 pm »
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then berric's death scene was dumb, he was holding off the undead but then got through the door anyways?? nope.  this show is going to have a disney ending
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #122 on: April 30, 2019, 10:43:12 pm »
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #123 on: April 30, 2019, 11:03:18 pm »
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then berric's death scene was dumb, he was holding off the undead but then got through the door anyways?? nope.  this show is going to have a disney ending
Of course, it's not even a question anymore. As if it wasn't obvious enough before, watching the "inside the episode" for this episode really drove the point home. They gave the Mormont girl (literally the least likely character in the show to survive more than 1 second in the battle) and Jorah heroic Disney deaths. Literally teleporting Jorah out of the castle against all logic so that they could give him "the death that he would've chosen." And letting the Mormont girl kill his the giant because "she was a little character" so they "wanted her to kill one of the strongest big characters."

Contrast with (for example) Ned Stark's death, and how shitty it was for him and his family. Nothing heroic about it. Just came out of nowhere... except not really, it was foreshadowed and actually predictable, if you didn't expect the show to be, well, what it is right now. Because everyone was used to these heroic disney shows, it WAS a surprise, and that's what drew a lot of people in. It felt like something that really could happen in a setting like that. The grittiness, the realism, the "grimdark" stuff. All of that is gone now.

When they do kill characters now, the impact is always softened by this Disney bullshit where every death is a good death, and even in death those characters achieve something amazing. And of course only largely pointless side characters die.
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #124 on: May 01, 2019, 12:45:50 am »
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Interview with mormongirl's actress:

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In the scene with the giant, the way that you stab him is really similar to the way that Arya kills the Night King. Did you feel like the episode was like a triumph for the female characters?

Yeah, definitely. It proves that young people are just as capable as experienced people, and women are just as capable as men. The fact that little pint-sized females took out the most dominating forces in the White Army was pretty inspiring, actually.

Lmao. I've seen this sentiment so many times now. And it never gets less retarded.

Because a fantasy show on the telly scripts a 100 cm little girl to kill a giant, it PROVES that children can do anything, and that women are just as capable as men. So inspiring that little "pint-sized females" took out the most dominating forces in the White Army!

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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #125 on: May 01, 2019, 12:55:07 am »
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face it, women spend more money than you do, they are significantly more important to get onboard with anything that is profit driven.
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #128 on: May 01, 2019, 03:46:10 am »
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #129 on: May 01, 2019, 04:29:11 am »
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Inb4 the entire prophecy, the lord of the light and there demonstrably being one God in the setting with very real power is completely ignored by D&D

Also that theory is really stupid, how did it get two platinums and six golds? Massive leaps of logic and by the logic he's using Melisandre would be the lord of light, she's the one resurrecting people by touching and possessing the "opposite power" of the Night King, etc. Won't even get into how retarded the time travel crap is, and how many insane plot holes it would open up, just like every instance of unchecked time travel in any setting. The entire theory boils down to "lol bran did literally everything himself with his magic time travel powers instantly and caused literally every event ever to happen." Not only is it completely unfounded but he somehow managed to come up with a theory that would be even less satisfying than what we got if it was real.

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In the episode followup commentary, they implied they randomly picked Arya to kill the NK at some point; and wove the episode to heighten the surprise. Its hard to believe that decision was really random
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #130 on: May 01, 2019, 04:46:03 am »
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Game of Thrones resembles me of Turkey a lot. Started as something nice with the wisdom of it's founder, when that got depleted it all went downhill into deep shit but most people in it think it's still cool cus they are blind  :|

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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #131 on: May 01, 2019, 05:07:03 am »
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The amazing awfulness of this show is almost endlessly amusing

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No no, she's a trained assassin. That was her training. Her training. She's trained. She's trained and it was training from all that training when she was training. To be an assassin.

She's a trained assassin. When did she train? Who knows? She's a trained assassin.

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She washed some bodies, did some mild sparring with another student, went blind, then became batman. Except when the waif attacked her, then she went back to being a dumb little girl. Then she became batman again and killed the waif. Then she went to her boss, who's whole thing is dissolving identity, selflessness, and obedience and told him she wasn't going to dissolve her identity, was going to be selfish and not be obedient. Oh and she killed his other potential student who was obeying him. He said 'at last you are no one' for some reason. Then she came back and knew how to change faces for some reason. Now's she permanently batman. Except for that one pirates of the caribbean scene in the last episode where she was a dumb little girl again. But now she's batman again.
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #132 on: May 01, 2019, 06:12:15 am »
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Re: Game of Thrones - Season 8 - 4/14/2019
« Reply #134 on: May 02, 2019, 09:27:08 am »
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