First they kill the mod, and then they stole your money ....

[Leesin]

Fuck CRPG, I just want my 50 euro back.

[Dupre]

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[Grytviken]

You should go to jail for fraud . Yes you and all the doneky team taking money from little kids .

25 dollars to buy their game regardless of what people might think about it is a paltry sum considering how many hours of fun you've probably spent on crpg for free, you must be a real cheap ass to still hold a grudge about this.

[Sparvico]

I do still have that legal paperwork entitling me to a return on any profits. Wonder what court I would have to take that too. Probably small claims court.


Edit: To the topic, ras is actually completely right.

The initial backing of the project was done via a profit participation model, essentially making every backer an investor of sorts who could later on collect a share of the profits. This has obviously never come to fruition and likely went out the window entirely when they decided to go with a publisher for continued funding. However that means that Donkey Crew did actually violate the contract they entered into with their initial backers.

Except maybe they didn't, because maybe that contract wasn't sufficiently binding/only covered investors from Austria for some weird legal reason/any other number of shoddy things that could have happened. However, weather they legally broke contract or not, they certainly broke the spirit of their initial promise to us earliest backers.

Now weather you care about that or not is entirely subjective. I frankly don't. Lots of shit happens in life and I never felt like chadz actually wanted to rip any of us off.

Also I do actually agree with ras frenzy that Melee:Battleground/OKAM/project asinus killed crpg, but only for the simple and very obvious reason that all the talented developers that made crpg stopped working on it to work on Melee:EPICbattlegrounds (and honestly the idea of project asinus effectively stopped development of cRPG well before it was actually announced for that initial backing).

[Asheram]

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[Sparvico]

Or maybe somebody did try and sue chadz and that is why he moved to China.

[Kadeth]

I do still have that legal paperwork entitling me to a a return on any profits. Wonder what court I would have to take that too. Probably small claims court.


Edit: To the topic, ras is actually completely right.

The initial backing of the project was done via a profit participation model, essentially making every backer an investor of sorts who could later on collect a share of the profits. This has obviously never come to fruition and likely went out the window entirely when they decided to go with a publisher for continued funding. However that means that Donkey Crew did actually violate the contract they entered into with their initial backers.

Except maybe they didn't, because maybe that contract wasn't sufficiently binding/only covered investors from Austria for some weird legal reason/any other number of shoddy things that could have happened. However, weather they legally broke contract or not, they certainly broke the spirit of their initial promise to us earliest backers.

Now weather you care about that or not is entirely subjective. I frankly don't. Lots of shit happens in life and I never felt like chadz actually wanted to rip any of us off.

Also I do actually agree with ras frenzy that Melee:Battleground/OKAM/project asinus killed crpg, but only for the simple and very obvious reason that all the talented developers that made crpg stopped working on it to work on Melee:EPICbattlegrounds (and honestly the idea of project asinus effectively stopped development of cRPG well before it was actually announced for that initial backing).

Wasn't there something in the disclaimer that was basically like "if this shit falls apart and gets taken over by an even shittier company which it definitely will you can all get fucked and you're all entitled to nothing" anyway?

[Asheram]

Did he move to China or was he sold ito China as an indentured servant/slave by GMG?

[BlackxBird]

Tbh I don't understand u guys here. These guys had a dream. Everyone supporting them wasn't doing it for profit, neither did those guys do it for the money. They wanted to create something huge. But well they fucked up. If the game had been successfull and the donkey crew actually would have managed to build up a really good game, I'm 100% sure they would have (in some way) awarded those guys who helped them. So now being angry at them for spending their best years on something that didn't work out for them is ridiculously mean and again I can not understand why you would be. Their life fucked up. And u spend some money on them OMG Im so sorry for you.

[Jona]

I do still have that legal paperwork entitling me to a return on any profits. Wonder what court I would have to take that too. Probably small claims court.


Edit: To the topic, ras is actually completely right.

The initial backing of the project was done via a profit participation model, essentially making every backer an investor of sorts who could later on collect a share of the profits. This has obviously never come to fruition and likely went out the window entirely when they decided to go with a publisher for continued funding. However that means that Donkey Crew did actually violate the contract they entered into with their initial backers.

Except maybe they didn't, because maybe that contract wasn't sufficiently binding/only covered investors from Austria for some weird legal reason/any other number of shoddy things that could have happened. However, weather they legally broke contract or not, they certainly broke the spirit of their initial promise to us earliest backers.

Now weather you care about that or not is entirely subjective. I frankly don't. Lots of shit happens in life and I never felt like chadz actually wanted to rip any of us off.

Also I do actually agree with ras frenzy that Melee:Battleground/OKAM/project asinus killed crpg, but only for the simple and very obvious reason that all the talented developers that made crpg stopped working on it to work on Melee:EPICbattlegrounds (and honestly the idea of project asinus effectively stopped development of cRPG well before it was actually announced for that initial backing).

REEEEEE

[Grytviken]

Edit: To the topic, ras is actually completely right.

The initial backing of the project was done via a profit participation model, essentially making every backer an investor of sorts who could later on collect a share of the profits. This has obviously never come to fruition and likely went out the window entirely when they decided to go with a publisher for continued funding. However that means that Donkey Crew did actually violate the contract they entered into with their initial backers.

Ras is wrong, you are still entitled to the profit

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which just happens to be nothing 

[Grytviken]

Wasn't there something in the disclaimer that was basically like "if this shit falls apart and gets taken over by an even shittier company which it definitely will you can all get fucked and you're all entitled to nothing" anyway?

Imagine if you could invest in stocks and then had this fairy tale safety net incase things didn't go your way and you could get all your money back  we'd all be rich eventually !

[Grytviken]

Tbh I don't understand u guys here. These guys had a dream. Everyone supporting them wasn't doing it for profit, neither did those guys do it for the money. They wanted to create something huge. But well they fucked up. If the game had been successfull and the donkey crew actually would have managed to build up a really good game, I'm 100% sure they would have (in some way) awarded those guys who helped them. So now being angry at them for spending their best years on something that didn't work out for them is ridiculously mean and again I can not understand why you would be. Their life fucked up. And u spend some money on them OMG Im so sorry for you.

I mean I agree with you people are salty cunts, but I think you're being a little too dreary here. For their first game it was still a hell of alot better than the thousands of shitty indie games I see peddled on steam every day. I'm sure the experience and stuff they learned will be invaluable for them in the future and was worth it.

[Grytviken]

Did he move to China or was he sold ito China as an indentured servant/slave by GMG?

I think gay man gaming is a ponzi scheme to fuck devs over. It's like a complete cheap ripoff of steam, and i've never seen any game they published succeed.

[Asheram]

I think gay man gaming is a ponzi scheme to fuck devs over. It's like a complete cheap ripoff of steam, and i've never seen any game they published succeed.

Well I dont know how successful that other game they published "The Black Death" is but it is still up on steam and being played. It just had a patch on feb 16th and people posting in the patch thread dont seem too unhappy.