Mini announcement - retirement info, more grind for people who like grind

[Ishar]

Oh, question: does higher generation still give you exp AND gold bonus, or is it just exp now? Bonus gold would mean being able to maintain better gear constantly - and that would be a HUGE thing, I think bigger than any pre-patch benefits.

[WaltF4]

It did not give a gold bonus pre-patch.

[Gorath]

Grinders should get penalties for grinding.  Sort of as a reinforcement to the RL negatives of being a grinder.  Less troops for strategus (no social skills), less gold from towns (poor worker), less strength (pale pasty and physically nasty grind-nerd).

To compensate they get +1 e-grind e-peen level to add to 1 wpf per grind level.

[Banok]

yeah let grinders aspire to having 10 hierlooms. dont make non grinders not able to have hierlooms

[Armpit_Sweat]

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Even though i work 8-9 hours every day, i will take my chances!

[Keshian]

This heavily favors people who have retired before and not new players.  At this point I would only consider ( may or may not) retiring my main character not my gen 4 alts as 11 retirements (+110% xp) makes it a slightly bearable grind rather then just a freakish annoyance.  I couldnt imagine being a new player with gen 1 trying to get to level 31 under the new xp system, would be like 3-4 weeks and would you really want to do it all over again for just a minor improvement to 1 weapon?

[Rhaelys]

This heavily favors people who have retired before and not new players.  At this point I would only consider ( may or may not) retiring my main character not my gen 4 alts as 11 retirements (+110% xp) makes it a slightly bearable grind rather then just a freakish annoyance.  I couldnt imagine being a new player with gen 1 trying to get to level 31 under the new xp system, would be like 3-4 weeks and would you really want to do it all over again for just a minor improvement to 1 weapon?

Those people also paid lots of gold to do so. This patch already caters so much to new players, anyway.

[Grey]

A lot of peeps have not understood how retiring is gonna work....I agree 31 is a loong way from 30, but, its your chars ENTIRE proffesional live as a PRO killer. Dont take our poor char's little RP lives away, they want to live long before having to retire

[Keshian]

Okay... THE SOFT LEVEL CAP, I REPEAT LEVEL CAP is 30, it makes no sense whatsoever that to retire you must reach a level HIGHER then the LEVEL CAP.  Is anyone else wondering what chadz was thinking?  Isnt the whole point of a level cap that people dont go past it (SOFT = vast majority dont go past it)?  Yet you are rewarded with a heirloom if you try to break the level cap.  Why didnt he keep it at level 30 like he mentioned before when discussing the patch in early dec./late nov.?

[bruce]

Why didnt he keep it at level 30 like he mentioned before when discussing the patch in early dec./late nov.?

To make retiring a nontrivial affair. Else a typical grinder could retire every week.

[Helrekkr]

I'm cool with this but please buff heirlooms a bit since it is clear the intention is to make them more rare.

[bruce]

I'm cool with this but please buff heirlooms a bit since it is clear the intention is to make them more rare.

Heirlooms - particularly weapons - are very strong generally speaking. Heirloom a weapon a few times and it's the equivalent of a extra level of powerstrike (consider you've got a level cap practically speaking now, this is big), and they're a bit faster on top.

[Helrekkr]

Heirlooms - particularly weapons - are very strong generally speaking. Heirloom a weapon a few times and it's the equivalent of a extra level of powerstrike (consider you've got a level cap practically speaking now, this is big), and they're a bit faster on top.

True but it's going to take ages to actually get a weapon to +3 after the change and everyone will lose 2/3rds of their heirloom levels.

[Olwen]

i want my hero skill :x, btw lvl 31 you're a damn lamer chadz, hate you

[Kafein]

In chadz We Trust.


I'm allready looking forward to this.