Remove turnrate nerf

[Butan]

Is this not still true? Provided that the person has excellent awareness.

As the spoiler and gif shows, this horrible slow-paced combat we're talking about in theory doesn't look or feel quite so slow or horrible in practice.

Maybe the issue isn't that the turn rate got nerfed. Maybe the issue is that the heroes from your memories were fighting plebs in 2011 that didn't know how to block. 7 years is a long time.

Noone said the turnrate is horrible, just hardcapped.
7 years ago the meta was different but I can guarantee you that there was already lots of players who had reached their peak and tons of hardcore fighting, it isnt at all a case of "people were bad back then".
Noone remember Phase? I can still see him kill 5-6 pretty hardcore guys in a last ditch effort solo while being ganked by double that, going from a target to another. The way it was done cannot be repeated today, no matter the skill, simple as that.

[Jona]

I can still see him kill 5-6 pretty hardcore guys in a last ditch effort solo while being ganked by double that, going from a target to another. The way it was done cannot be repeated today, no matter the skill, simple as that.

Yeah, cuz now it takes a modicum of skill to do that, whereas prior to the nerf it was free if you had high enough mouse sensitivity.

[Gravoth_iii]

Yeah, cuz now it takes a modicum of skill to do that, whereas prior to the nerf it was free if you had high enough mouse sensitivity.

I would rather have it be easier on the attackers point of view, and harder for the defenders. If defence is king then the slowmode engages. So if it is supposedly easier and no skill to do it in without turnspeed nerfs, then that would be preferable due to making it faster paced and it would allow even bad players to be able to perform better if he is fighting others who are not prepared in defensive gameplay.

easy win for me.

I do like FT7's even though the community always despised the "drama" from duel heroes. I'll fight if we get turnspeed revert so i can use my war spear as i once did.

[Davic]

When was the turn rate even nerfed? I don't know if I ever played before this nerf.

Was it nerfed when this gif was recorded?

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sidenote: I miss the other 2h stab animation

James is just looking for excuses to post this gif again.

[Asheram]

I wish the over head spear stab was like it used to be long time ago, you hold spear over head and stab down over shield etc instead of the overhead just being used as a clubbing swing.

[Tindel]

Remove it,  the game is so shitty to play now. Especially 1h is really crappy.

[The_Bloody_Nine]

Noone said the turnrate is horrible, just hardcapped.
7 years ago the meta was different but I can guarantee you that there was already lots of players who had reached their peak and tons of hardcore fighting, it isnt at all a case of "people were bad back then".
Noone remember Phase? I can still see him kill 5-6 pretty hardcore guys in a last ditch effort solo while being ganked by double that, going from a target to another. The way it was done cannot be repeated today, no matter the skill, simple as that.

also flags.

[Butan]

Yeah, cuz now it takes a modicum of skill to do that, whereas prior to the nerf it was free if you had high enough mouse sensitivity.

Your post made me remember the debates there was over this at the time    such a nice leap into memories.

[McKli_PL]

I do like FT7's even though the community always despised the "drama" from duel heroes. I'll fight if we get turnspeed revert so i can use my war spear as i once did.

since when turnrate is super important factor on warspear, this weapon and all short 4d spears are massive in duels in good hands
and i'm bit suprised that ppl who love slash stabing are not using ez tricks how to get 'pseudo' turnrate: mouse acceleration in widows settings 'on' set it to max value, dpi set to +3200(zero glancing, zero wpf penalty due to dpi) invert mouse X-axis to Y- very ez lol stabing on short distance again lower probability of glancing eg. Long Spear vs plates on strat in close combat
windows mouse settings or mouse software: double click set to left mouse button and put high value and for really good and expensive mouse turn on Angle snapping/prediction, ez tricks macro phun

[Larvae]

I knew it that there are macros

[Xant]

Pretty much goes for entire cRPG combat, since everything is slower here. People got bodied too hard in native by crazy shit, complained here under the pretense of realism or abuse or whatever and with every patch over time cRPG turned into this slugfest.

Yeah, cRPG was at its best in 2011, then gradually over the years everything's been nerfed and made easier and the game slowed down like fuck. The skill ceiling got so much lower. Native gameplay feels so much smoother, faster, and overall better.

Yeah, cuz now it takes a modicum of skill to do that, whereas prior to the nerf it was free if you had high enough mouse sensitivity.

Yeah, "free" if you played against people of Jona skill level.

Everyone else could, you know, block and it wasn't "free" in any sense of the word. If you had any game sense yourself it was also extremely easy to predict when and who the solo guy would target next.

[Gravoth_iii]

since when turnrate is super important factor on warspear, this weapon and all short 4d spears are massive in duels in good hands
and i'm bit suprised that ppl who love slash stabing are not using ez tricks how to get 'pseudo' turnrate: mouse acceleration in widows settings 'on' set it to max value, dpi set to +3200(zero glancing, zero wpf penalty due to dpi) invert mouse X-axis to Y- very ez lol stabing on short distance again lower probability of glancing eg. Long Spear vs plates on strat in close combat
windows mouse settings or mouse software: double click set to left mouse button and put high value and for really good and expensive mouse turn on Angle snapping/prediction, ez tricks macro phun

Little do you know about spears then. Of course you can still duel with them, there are tricks that many fall for that work even without turnrates, its just that they are unreliable when someone can simply sidestep faster and make it glance.
Oh and sensitivity does nothing.

[McKli_PL]

Little do you know about spears then. Of course you can still duel with them, there are tricks that many fall for that work even without turnrates, its just that they are unreliable when someone can simply sidestep faster and make it glance.
Oh and sensitivity does nothing.

sensitivity does nothing on stabs hehehe

[njames89]

James is just looking for excuses to post this gif again.

  heh uh NO...

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ok yes 

[Corsair831]

The turnrate nerf is the major reason duelling on cRPG absolutely sucks arse and just comes down to who gets bored and double attacks first. I spend my entire time in-game backstabbing people because fighting face to face against anyone half competent just takes hours.

Remove pls. Those of us playing these days are good enough to block it (if not, our cRPG ego's will block it for us)