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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2017, 01:01:15 pm »
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Long story short all I know about this issue is this thread; so grain of salt me.
Agreements rectify issues. We experience an issue, a disturbance in our happy little community and we try to find a solution. Some of these solutions work. Some do not.
Overall having a game have real life consequences seems like a folly a failing and evil but on the surface it can seem a solid solution.
Personally I believe that any ban in game or from a community should be temporary; length up for debate but TEMPORARY.

What is the cost of a chance? TO change? For real? Seriously? Like srs now gais. That probably tells you i'm for unbanning zottlmarsc;
if only to see additional fireworks as we slowly reach a very frightening conclusion.
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2017, 01:15:53 pm »
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I enforced a rule and honestly I was too harsh.

Uther will post to clear things up sooner or later. Personally I no longer believe zottl should be permabanned. That was something I did in the heat of the moment and I've come to the conclusion it was excessive.

Appreciate you all reaching out on this matter.

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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2017, 01:58:58 pm »
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I enforced a rule and honestly I was too harsh.

Uther will post to clear things up sooner or later. Personally I no longer believe zottl should be permabanned. That was something I did in the heat of the moment and I've come to the conclusion it was excessive.

Appreciate you all reaching out on this matter.
Takes a good Admin to realise when he's made a mistake, thanks for your honesty James. Hopefully we all can learn from this situation and use it carrying on into the future of C-RPG. Speshul thanks to Bronto for helping us sort this all out. Now I can go back to being an autistic retard again.

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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2017, 03:43:58 pm »
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Hello, clearing up things here;

1. Yes, zottl is getting unbanned - as the mushroom cloud of this autistic explosion clears we've come to realise that this was not the wisest of moves. I take part of the blame here as well, as I advised James to go forward with this and later engaged in half-assed attempts to justify what was simply a wrong decision.

2. As of this moment, I'm going to add a tiny new rule to the general rules stating that "An offense that has happened 6 or more months ago is no longer punishable, unless it is a very serious offense (e.g. account theft)"
3. I can personally promise to not remove anyone's posts anymore "for the lulz"

Thanks for being the autistic community we all have grown to cherish and hatelove.  :D
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #94 on: November 21, 2017, 04:30:24 pm »
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holy crap,  you guys just did something beautiful here.

nice communication and handling of things : )
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #95 on: November 21, 2017, 04:46:23 pm »
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Glad to see this come to a reasonable conclusion.

Now, what about justice for my mans jona and havelle?
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #96 on: November 21, 2017, 05:43:30 pm »
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Why do you keep saying justice for Jona when he isn't banned?
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #97 on: November 21, 2017, 05:59:31 pm »
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2017, 06:08:00 pm »
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Havelle recieved his justice, he was banned like 20 times in one day for ban avoiding months ago and we simply forgot to extend his permban to forums.

Jona is free to relay his ideas to professor on discord in real-time chat, and that's all I have to say about this.
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #99 on: November 21, 2017, 06:15:10 pm »
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Why do you keep saying justice for Jona when he isn't banned?

He is the devs just didn't give him the public shaming or w.e. it is they typically do.

Havelle recieved his justice, he was banned like 20 times in one day for ban avoiding months ago and we simply forgot to extend his permban to forums.

Jona is free to relay his ideas to professor on discord in real-time chat, and that's all I have to say about this.

when in the past have ingame bans extended to the forums? basically never. Im sure jona wouldnt even bother discussing the game with anyone on the dev team realtime or not. trying to have an intelligent debate with inept devs would prove as frustrating in any medium. you realize there is plenty more the this forum other than one topic, right? permabanned from the whole forums for saying the devs made a bad design choice, fucked up commie eurotrash decisions as always.

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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #100 on: November 21, 2017, 06:27:45 pm »
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #101 on: November 21, 2017, 06:28:01 pm »
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Wait... so Jona is invisible banned for crying in his own thread about how the new devs mangled changed the mod, a thread that is in the section specifically made for crying?! For crying out loud do they not know how to just not click on his thread if they don't like what he has to say or how he says it?. If this is true it is worse than the zotti ban.
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #102 on: November 21, 2017, 06:33:29 pm »
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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #103 on: November 21, 2017, 06:35:51 pm »
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Being silenced is even worse than being permabanned. Didn't know it was a thing on this forum as well.

Users usually get silenced when admins are afraid of public outrage forcing them to revert their decision which is exactly what happens every time someone not completely retarded (ODINVALHALA) is banned from these forums. Being silenced is like staged car crash by the government when they want to silently get rid of someone.

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Re: free zottlmarsch
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2017, 06:37:12 pm »
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Im sure jona wouldnt even bother discussing the game with anyone on the dev team realtime or not. trying to have an intelligent debate with inept devs would prove as frustrating in any medium.
Just like how it was frustrating trying to have a conversation with Jona without him being snarky or snide. (perhaps not the exact right adjectives, but something along those lines)
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