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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2017, 01:59:53 pm »
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Xant how much did u loose?

I'm sorry I wished u good fortune, but I just wanna know.
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2017, 02:28:15 pm »
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I won 150 euros, I bet on Floyd TKO

lol this nigga always winning when he winning he winning, when he losing he joking so he winning

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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2017, 02:55:06 pm »
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lol this nigga always winning when he winning he winning, when he losing he joking so he winning
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #78 on: August 28, 2017, 09:13:17 pm »
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I won 150 euros, I bet on Floyd TKO

photo or didnt happen :)
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2017, 06:51:08 am »
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2017, 04:05:22 pm »
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McGregor would beat Floyd 19 out of 20 times they fought.

Abstract:
Floyd could only win against the stronger, younger, faster, & more skilled Conor McGregor under extraordinary and rigged circumstances (& even then only after Conor gassed!).

In this thread I will elucidate what these extraordinary circumstances were, and why they wouldn't apply most of the time. Conor wins both the rematch and the first fight in 19 out of 20 alternate universes, proven by math and Gödel's number theory &c.

Every argument I put forth is backed by rigorous logical thinking and rational analysis; opinions and bias simply have no place here.

Without further ado, I give you....

Four Reasons Why Floyd Pulled Off The Lucky Freak Win On August 26 (That Wouldn't Apply In Most Fights)

Reason 1: The Snake

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figure 1.

The Reptile, Paulina, the Snake, The One Who Speaks, Paulie Malignaggi -- whatever you want to call him, his role in this fight's outcome cannot be denied by any rationally thinking human being. Paulie Malignaggi (hailing out of Bronx, NY) was sent as a spy and triple agent into the Irishman's camp to learn his secrets and to sabotage his progress. Credit where credit is due, Paulie was tremendously successful in his job. I'm not here to cast moral judgement one way or the other, but whether his actions were ethical are up to each reader and each reader alone. Needless to say, however, that most elite-level moral philosophers that I hang out with are extremely disappointed in Malignaggi's behavior. He's fortunate that Nietzsche killed God in the 18th century, because there were limits to even His mercy (see e.g., Old Testament).

Thanks to Malignaggi's deep-running and inevitable betrayal, Floyd Mayweather (pictured on the left with Paulie Malignaggi, figure 1), McGregor's opponent, was able to tailor his tactics to Conor's approach. This is akin to a chessmaster knowing exactly which stratagems his opponent would go for, and victory would be all but guaranteed.

What was Floyd's counter-tactic to McGregor and just what (among other things) did Paulie reveal to him? This and more I'll explain in Reason 4.

Reason 2: Conor's Gloves Weren't Laced Properly

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They tied up the laces and brought them back to the wrist, to support the wrist. What it actually does is make the glove tighter, so when [a punch] lands, it has more bite.

You loop [the laces] at the wrist and tie it around the wrist. That's just Boxing 101. You learn that the first day in the gym.

They had the gloves tied down at the forearm, which leaves the gloves loose, and doesn't give you the support.
https://www.balls.ie/newsnow/andy-lee-conor-mcgregor-gloves-372324'

As anyone who has ever boxed can tell you, lacing of the gloves is one of the most important factors when it comes to the gloves, far more important than the size of the glove itself -- ask any Hall of Famer. Conor's gloves being laced poorly is the equivalent of him wearing 26oz pillows, and made knocking out Floyd Mayweather an impossible task in practice. This is huge! Conor's principal weapons (his power and accuracy) were stolen from him thus making a (T)KO victory a path he couldn't take.

Further, this doesn't solely impact the chances of a knock out, but of course impacts his overall power negatively, thus allowing Mayweather to ignore punches that would send him reeling back were the gloves laced properly.

Suspiciously, Mayweather seems to have had foreknowledge of the lacing issue, for the tactic he and Malignaggi cooked up before the fight appears to have taken this into account. Also, as further evidence, he knew if he referee did not get a chance to stop the fight in his favor, it would go to a decision, despite McGregor's prowess and reputation as a deadly knock-out artist. Why, you ask? Because the judges were bought with big money, and this is clear evidence of Floyd's almost magical knowledge of what would come to be.

So -- who was responsible for lacing up Conor's gloves? A good question. No one seems to know. It's as if "The Lacer" simply vanished after the fact. Rather makes you think, no?

Reason 3: Mayweather Was Knocked Out By Zab Judah Prior To The Fight
http://mmaimports.com/2017/08/breaking-floyd-mayweather-knocked-out-by-zab-judah-in-sparring/

It was leaked to the press, and the fans, that Mayweather employed Zab Judah in preparation for the Irish Knock Out Machine.

This isn't the first time Floyd's taken advantage of Zab's considerable skillset to prepare for a fight, but as Fortune would have it, Zab's style bears a striking, serendipitous resemblance to Conor's style, albeit with less technical brilliance but just as much blazing speed. However, it is the first time Floyd has been caught by Zab badly enough to be knocked out!

Because of TMT's tight-knight, family-unit nature, the gym and Mayweather were able to keep this "public secret" as merely a rumor, officially, and medical professionals (I don't blame them, they did their best) weren't able to confirm the knock out. Zab's management was hastily instructed to lay a smoke screen and to claim Zab was never present in the gym.

Floyd himself certainly didn't volunteer to confess this to the doctors overseeing the bout. He would've been given a medical suspension and the fight would've been off.

And not for nothing: the reason why knock outs result in suspensions, much like getting caught for steroids, is that the fighter builds a resistance to getting knocked out again until the brain heals and the "sensors" responsible for shutting off the brain recover their normal function (that is, to tell the brain to shut down after a certain amount of trauma). This gives the fighter that has been recently knocked out an extremely unfair advantage. It becomes essentially impossible to knock them out again until some months have passed. As Prince Naseem Hamed famously said, it only takes 3 pounds of force to knock someone out, properly applied. With the trick Floyd used (getting knocked out just prior to the real fight), those 3 pounds are multiplied by a factor of ^3.

Reason 4: The Judges And Referee Were Bought

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Figure 2.

In the picture above (figure 2) we see the judge payments. Notice anything strange? You should, because I circled the discrepancies in red and added exclamation points. This can't be stated strongly enough: TWO JUDGES IN THE MAYWEATHER-MCGREGOR FIGHT WERE PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH!!!

Inquiring minds want to know: why? Well, why would you ever pay 100 million and 30 million to two judges for 30 minutes of work? And does anyone find it coincidental that two judges were paid, and two judges only gave Conor 1 round? I certainly do, and like V from V For Vendetta, I don't believe in coincidences.

And then of course we have the referee. Ah, yes, the referee. Thirty years from now, we will see a picture of Robert Byrd as the definition for "early stoppage", and for good reason. He was clearly looking for an opportunity to stop the fight, because he knew that the longer it goes, the more dangerous for Floyd it gets. And so he jumped in after a couple glancing arm punches, causing an uproar in the MMA and boxing community, with thousands if not millions crying "it was stopped early!" Mike Tyson among others...

This is a genius strategy by Floyd, one he's notorious (no pun intended) for using in all his matches: pay two judges and you're guaranteed at least a majority decision! You save 1/3 of your money this way also, showing that Floyd is not just a great boxer, he's also a shrewd businessman. Look at the majority decisions in his career; we can take the Canelo one as an example. Without this system of his, he would likely have lost to the young lion of Mexico.

Speaking of Mexico....

Reason 5: Floyd Became a Mexican

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Figure 3.

I promised to talk about the tactic Floyd came up with Malignaggi and in this chapter I will.

Floyd's analysis of the information that Paulie provided him told him one important thing: the only way to beat McGregor is to become a Mexican. Paulie was beaten & defeated soundly, but that much he was able to relay back to his paymaster. Floyd wasted no time, and he hired Nate Diaz, among others, to teach him the secrets of Mexico. This is why the two seem like old chums: they are.

Pictured above (figure 3.) we have Floyd "getting into role" in a mock-up sparring session.

As Conor says, he "turned Floyd into a Mexican", in more than one sense. The elusive master counter-puncher was turned into a walk-forward zombie, but McGregor gives the man too much credit: it was NOT an adaptation Floyd made in the ring, but rather a home cooked meal (vs. microwave meal, "in the ring fast adaptation"), prepared with care and well in advance of the guests* arriving. Without the proper time to adjust and prepare for the fresh new challenge a young stallion in McGregor presented him, as told to him by Paulie Malignaggi, Floyd would have been dead in the water against the canny old shark that is Conor.

If the fight played out a hundred times, then 99 times out of a 100 Floyd would not have such detailed information and wouldn't be able to prepare accordingly. As to why Conor wins the rematch... he wins because he's as adaptable as they come, as evident by the Diaz 2 fight, and he would give Floyd many Different Looks if he knew he was, potentially, facing a Mexican.

* = symbolism: Conor is the guest.

Math explained

Long story short, when you put all the above together and calculate it with Bayes' Theorem, you get a probability of victory for each fighter (let Conor be A and let Floyd be B), and when you further insert into the theorem the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and Schrödinger's Feline, you get the probability of not just a victory in one fight, but of as many fights in as many alternate universes as you like!

In my example, I used 20 alternate universes, and A>B 19/20 times. As you remember, A=Conor. You could run the simulation of the formula with as many alternate universes you like, but if you know your calculus then it won't be difficult to calculate the percentage in your head (i.e., 19/20 translates to 98/100 with 100 alternate universes.)

Much of the math and the more intellectual explanations may go above most of the readers' heads here, but I believe the basic premise can be understood by almost anyone.
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2017, 08:32:16 am »
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So do I get my life savings back?

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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2017, 08:54:19 am »
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No, but on the bright side, 19 out of 20 Pauls in alternate quantum universes are now very rich. You should be happy for them.
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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2017, 11:48:57 am »
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Tbh I didn't bet shit because I know that we live in a "critical miss" universe and all of Xant's infinite wisdom is wasted here on this gay earth. That's why I believe that man-made climate change is most likely real.

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Re: Conor McGregor vs Lloyd Maypeter
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2017, 02:22:46 pm »
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Tbh I didn't bet shit because I know that we live in a "critical miss" universe and all of Xant's infinite wisdom is wasted here on this gay earth. That's why I believe that man-made climate change is most likely real.
19 out of 20 Pauls in alternate quantum universes are very disappointed in you.
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