White man's dominance has come to an end

[Leshma]

Are you under same impression like me, that burden of technological progress of our specie is carried away by Asian people? Don't you think that time will come when they will reap rewards of their effort and shun the white man, his needs and desires into bottomless pit where he rightly belongs. Arrogance of white people is showing and is amplified by their ignorance.

America is still great, but not thanks to the white man. That country is being led forwards by naturalized Chinese, Japanese and people of Indian heritage. White men serve only as spokespersons or so called CEOs, but for how long? We have already seen shift in some large corporations that have replaced white people with Indians (Microsoft, Google). Rest have Jewish people in charge, but they are very close in their dedication and hard work to Asian people.

We hear Britons asking for their former greatness back, but I don't see how they deserve any of that. Their empire has crumbled, hell newly elected major of their biggest city isn't white!

Germans are the only white people in whole Europe who can still hold a candle to Asian dominance but they can't do it alone. Not only that, they are open to mixing of cultures and actively are working on turning their Nordic neighboring countries into racial and cultural melting pot.

Who has the most supercomputers in the world? Chinese.
Who are the most intelligent and educated people in the world? Asians.
Who runs economies of greatest world countries? Asians.

Do you see any way of changing this, to make white man great again?

[Leshma]

Just to clarify something. You've seen the title, and maybe even read the last sentence. OP is known. Chances are this is 100% troll topic and should be avoided like plague. Mostly correct.

But I didn't open this solely to ruffle some feathers. Prior to opening this I've read this article and seen this picture:

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It immediately reminded me how things stand. This is AMD, an American company. Their branch ATI, graphic chip maker. They were Canadian company. Somehow I expected some people in a room somewhere in their headquarters in Canada to be frontrunner's. Nope, it's Shanghai and bunch of Chinese scientists. Team leader and director of graphic chip group inside AMD is Raja Koduri who is tweeting this. Obviously of Indian heritage. Nothing to do with Canada, USA or white people. Yes, white man is getting the most of the money being shareholders but for how long?

Another example, game developer company I value as the best in business. Naughty Dog, located in sunny California, on outskirts of Santa Monica. They push the boundaries of console and arguable real time graphics in general. I have seen their studio once, bunch of females and pretty much everyone is Asian!

Many examples. There are very few successful white people in leading industry of the world, making important hurdles and overcoming seemingly impossible. We (white people) just aren't important anymore and that will certainly shift the power to the true innovators of this era. We may still control them (non white) but they won't have it for much longer.
 

[Overdriven]

Sheesh. A lot of it is work ethic and education.

There's a lot wrong with education systems in Asia. But they really teach the core subjects, particularly the more technical ones very well.

Add to that mix is the social pressure. For example, Indian's are pressured strongly by society and their parents into studying medicine, engineering and subjects like that. Whereas it's seen as relatively unacceptable to study an artsy subject.

The way their education works is also vastly different. A lot of Asian nations are terrible at theoretical and free thinking work, because they are educated by memorizing facts, equations ect. A lot of the Asian's I knew at University had a terrible time learning how to write argument based essays and dissertations because it's completely different from their education system which tests people by how well they can remember things.

But my wife, who is pretty crap at maths by Indian standards, could complete year 3 University maths work for some of our friends at Uni here. When she saw the kind of stuff I did at GCSE level she cracked up because most of it they had covered in primary school level.

[Angantyr]

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society- Aristotle

[Leshma]

Whereas it's seen as relatively unacceptable to study an artsy subject.

That is correct. Thing is, artsy subjects are losing big time in the job market throughout Europe and America. Feel free to study but don't blame others when you find yourself in situation where landing decent paid job has become increasingly difficult. Especially compared to people who have studied engineering or medicine. Many people who have studied medicine in Serbia are leaving for Nordic countries because they are in dire need of medicine personnel and doctors. This is still whites versus whites situation, but we're talking about lesser Whites (dirty Slavs from the south) against glorious Nordic master race. Tore, while spending his youth playing cRPG and trolling on these forums have lost many job opportunities to Serbian medicine students. Now he'll work some menial, low wage job. Until capitalism decides he's not needed and that robot can do that job just as well for fraction of a cost.

[Leshma]

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society- Aristotle

From what I've read of your posting so far, you are for isolationism. Can you please explain how will that shift the situation around? You know, Yugoslavia was doing exactly that. Foreign enemies, filthy pigs, wanted to ruin our beautiful country. So we locked ourselves and was locked away by others via sanctions they imposed against us. Results of that are horrifying and to this day we're going south very fast and there is no end to this bottomless pit. Russians did the same and are still doing it. Cubans too. North Korea... Didn't work for any of them. Why do you think it will work for European white people?

[Angantyr]

Honestly, still in the sciences there's almost no innovation from the Asian countries. What you're seeing is other countries catching up a bit, but there is nothing that shows that the world order is changing to any considerable degree. Western technology dominates in almost every area on the world scene and will continue to dominate at least in our lifetime and that of our children.

I've never been for isolationism. Having the same kind of border control as every other country on Earth throughout history is not isolationism. Not saying we should shut the door but that we should take more care who goes through it, I think I've been pretty clear about this. Cultural or ethnic conservatism is not isolating anything but taking care of it, adopting useful things from the outside and keeping the useless or damaging out. I love biodiversity and cultural diversity, which is why London shouldn't look like Islamabad and Berlin shouldn't look like Ankara and Rinkeby in Sweden shouldn't be called Little Mogadishu - or the other way around.

[Overdriven]

That is correct. Thing is, artsy subjects are losing big time in the job market throughout Europe and America. Feel free to study but don't blame others when you find yourself in situation where landing decent paid job has become increasingly difficult. Especially compared to people who have studied engineering or medicine. Many people who have studied medicine in Serbia are leaving for Nordic countries because they are in dire need of medicine personnel and doctors. This is still whites versus whites situation, but we're talking about lesser Whites (dirty Slavs from the south) against glorious Nordic master race. Tore, while spending his youth playing cRPG and trolling on these forums have lost many job opportunities to Serbian medicine students. Now he'll work some menial, low wage job. Until capitalism decides he's not needed and that robot can do that job just as well for fraction of a cost.

Yeah if you get a good medical degree or engineering degree in the UK you are pretty much in the money. Study Geography like me though and you're fucked. Business and Economics still go along way here as well thanks to the demand in London. A big part of it here is also the excess of degrees. They've gone from being for the most educated to pretty much being for anyone with half a brain. So to get a job out of uni on a graduate scheme you pretty much need a 1st or to have studied something inherently useful. Now you need a masters or PHD to be considered really educated.

[Leshma]

Honestly, still in sciences there's almost no innovation from the Asian countries. What you're seeing is other countries catching up a bit, but there nothing to show that the world order is changing to any considerable degree. Western technology dominates in almost every area on the world scene and will continue to dominate at least in our lifetime and that of our children.

I've never been for isolationism, btw. Having the same kind of border control as every other country on the earth is not isolationism. Not saying we should shut the door but that we should take more care who goes through it, I think I've been pretty clear about this. Cultural conservatism is not isolating anything but taking care of it, adopting useful things from the outside and keeping the useless or damaging out. I love biodiversity and cultural diversity, which is why London shouldn't look like New Delhi and Berlin shouldn't look like Ankara and Rinkeby in Sweden shouldn't be called Little Mogadishu, or the other way around.

You are looking at things a bit wrong. Asians are dominant in innovation but character of innovation has changed, from being job of one genius who'll turn world around on his own (Einstein, Tesla and rest of their ilk) to huge teams of scientists who are pushing boundaries today, often silently because media isn't giving them enough spotlight. Reason for that is, general public isn't interested in it, because of their poor education on the subject they can't possible understand what the fuss is all about. We're living in Orwellian society where most people are idiots. Because of that and media who are creating reflection of our collective work and doing it to benefit the leading class while hiding true image, it is often hard to see and acknowledge what is the current situation.

White man's countries hold most patents, but that's because how corporative business works. Those patents are result of mainly Asian workforce. It may be under Google, Apple, Samsung or whatever brand or corporation is attached to it, but people who are delivering are not those we white people want to see as true innovators.

[Angantyr]

That is not the picture I get from science journals.

But a lot of scientists and people in the IT industry especially in the US are Asian that is true, but Asian-Americans are pretty much 'white' anyway, in general Asians blend in really well in our societies. White culture dominate in the sciences and humanities and by far militarily, heck the scientific method itself is a product of the Enlightenment and secularism, which again are based on Hellenic philosophy. I like the Asian cultures and I'm only happy to see them progress, but as Overdriven touches upon most of their learning is done without the Socratic Method, it doesn't really stimulate independent thinking which we know leads to original thought.

[Butan]

America is still great, but not thanks to the white man. That country is being led forwards by naturalized Chinese, Japanese and people of Indian heritage. No
Who has the most supercomputers in the world? Chinese. Yes
Who are the most intelligent and educated people in the world? Asians. No
Who runs economies of greatest world countries? Asians. No

Do you see any way of changing this, to make white man great again? No need

[Kafein]

Add to that mix is the social pressure. For example, Indian's are pressured strongly by society and their parents into studying medicine, engineering and subjects like that. Whereas it's seen as relatively unacceptable to study an artsy subject.

It's actually to the point that there are too many engineers in India. I repeat. Too many engineers. The reason many of them become expats or immigrate isn't specifically to get a better pay or because they are particularly brilliant (some are), but to get a job related to what they studied at all. The social pressure to study STEM fields is so strong that it actually draws people who really shouldn't to go into that and thus drives the level down.

As for who drives scientific innovation, it's asians and middle-easterners in US colleges. People who don't give a shit about their tribal identity in general because they have less pathetic stuff to worry about.

[Golem]

White man will simply survive through anything, because we have what other races don't. Frenzy.

[Xant]

White man will simply survive through anything, because we have what other races don't. Frenzy.

[Gurgumul]

If Asians let me live as a NEET then I'm fine with them taking over the world.