White man's dominance has come to an end

[Leshma]

That is my only concern

Mr lazy ass whitey, thou must work and provide for mother Earth. Or we feed dogs to make them taste better.

[Gravoth_iii]

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society- Aristotle

Thats a cringy clip youve got there.

[Prpavi]

Honestly, still in the sciences there's almost no innovation from the Asian countries.

Can't believe you can sit and type this with a straight face, guess you're more of a troll than Lehma for opening this topic.

OP, we are already run over by asians, but our eurocentric views and supremacy complex won't let us realise that yet, example in quote.

tbh the modern asian countries way of life is out of my reach, I would just crash and burn, mediterranean way of life y'know 

[[ptx]]

It's actually to the point that there are too many engineers in India. I repeat. Too many engineers. The reason many of them become expats or immigrate isn't specifically to get a better pay or because they are particularly brilliant (some are), but to get a job related to what they studied at all. The social pressure to study STEM fields is so strong that it actually draws people who really shouldn't to go into that and thus drives the level down.

I believe anyone who has had to work with Indians in the IT sphere can attest to this. Some of them are actually good, but the vast majority should not be working in the field. Ugh.

[Angantyr]

Can't believe you can sit and type this with a straight face, guess you're more of a troll than Lehma for opening this topic.

It's mostly just hyperbole like the rest of this thread. There's a lot very specific fields where the Asian countries do not make it to the top ten, though, like physics: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/top-nations-in-physics/410295.article

However, there's of course a lot of innovation from the The Four Asian Tigers and Japan, mostly within the framework of western post-colonialism. With China pretty far behind, yet.

If you look at intellectual properties Asian countries are well-represented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

Of course, determining these things is by no means straightforward analysis due to a multitude of determinants. The often-cited Bloomberg Rankings uses seven different factors; R&D Intensity, Productivity, High-Tech Density, Researcher Concentration, Manufacturing Capability, Tertiary Efficiency and Patent Activity.
Article: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-22/in-global-innovation-race-taiwan-is-tops-in-patents-israel-leads-in-r-d.html
Full report: http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-innovative-countries/

Top 20 according to Bloomberg:

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South Korea
Japan
Germany
Finland
Israel
United States
Sweden
Singapore
France
United Kingdom
Denmark
Canada
Australia
Russia
Norway
Switzerland
Austria
New Zealand
Belgium
Netherlands

The World Economic Forum has also made a report (http://www.businessinsider.com/world-economic-forum-most-innovative-countries-2015-10?r=US&IR=T&IR=T), using the data differently. It looks something like this:

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Switzerland
Finland
Israel
United States
Japan
Germany
Sweden
Netherlands
Singapore
Denmark
Taiwan
United Kingdom

Another report the 'Global Innovation Index 2015' have ranked countries individually according to how well they perform on various indicators of innovation: https://www.globalinnovationindex.org/userfiles/file/reportpdf/gii-full-report-2015-v6.pdf

Whereas, the newer 'Contributors and Detractors: Ranking Countries’ Impact on Global Innovation', has assessed 56 countries which together account for about 90% of the global economy examining indicators ranging from research and development, to technology, human capital, tax policy, trade barriers and intellectual property protections. Countries are then scored for their contributions, their detractions and their overall impact on global innovation.
http://www2.itif.org/2016-contributors-and-detractors.pdf?_ga=1.199951271.840506637.1467019724

Finland, Sweden and the United Kingdom are the countries whose policies do the most on a per-capita basis to support global innovation — and the least to detract from it.

India, Indonesia and Argentina meanwhile score weakest overall, fielding an above-average number of policies that detract from global innovation (e.g., high tariffs, weak IP protections, forced localization policies).

The United States ranks 10th-highest in its overall impact on global innovation. Its policies are sixth-best at not detracting, but only 17th-best in their positive contribution.

This is due to the U.S. government’s relative underinvestment in R&D as a share of the country’s GDP, weak innovation-incenting tax policies, as well as a middling performance in human capital.

In addition, while the United States likely contributes the most to global innovation in absolute terms, it ranks lower on a per-capita basis.

South Korea, one of several countries identified as “Advanced Asian Tigers,” along with Japan and Taiwan, was unique in fielding a combination of strong innovation-supporting policies (e.g., the world’s second-highest investment in R&D as a share of GDP), but also an above-average number of harmful policies.

http://www.theglobalist.com/the-world-most-innovative-countries/

[Prpavi]

So basically modern asian countries do really well while others lag far behind, sounds allot like Europe, if you said India or except four tigers then I would have agreed, but as a whole asia still contributes allot if nothing just by mere numbers in their developed countries.

As for their education model it is different and far more competitive, but such competition does enchourage innovation and talented individuals contribute allot while other just become suit men.

[Gurgumul]

As for their education model it is different and far more competitive, but such competition does enchourage innovation and talented individuals contribute allot while other just become suit men.

And a lot of them become NEETs living off their parents. Combine this rat race with easy entertainment in the form of chinese cartoons, computer games, and other stuff that you can lose yourself in, and you get hikikomori. There's a strong pressure on "working for the society's good", but if society doesn't give a fuck about you, then why should you? Why bother with dreams and responsible jobs when all it takes to make you happy is internet and enough food to survive. The difference between the current and previous generations not just in Asia, but in most of developed countries is that back then there were plenty of "middle ground" jobs. All of these were satisfying enough and done at a steady pace, you could be taught carpentry by your parent for example, and everyone would be perfectly fine with it. Nowadays everyone wants you to become the next Superman. You work your ass off in school and then undergo the masochism of university, then you might have a chance to get a decent job (provided you have connections of course). If not - you get some shitty filler job like call center or other sit at computer bullshit. A job that doesn't really serve any purpose, it's there to keep people busy buying and selling useless shit so that our overlords and slave masters can bathe in gold.

[Prpavi]

Carpentry is awesome

[Gurgumul]

Carpentry is awesome

nobody needs carpenters anymore when you can buy Ikea stuff much cheaper

[Prpavi]

nobody needs carpenters anymore when you can buy Ikea stuff much cheaper

Only poor people buy beds, tables and kitchens in Ikea, so no.

[Angantyr]

Thats a cringy clip youve got there.

It's from some American neo-chocolate chip cookie. I thought it accomodated well Leshma's intention with this thread.

[Kafein]

Neo-chocolate is one of my favorite snacks.

Also Angantyr, innovation is a very tough thing to measure. Number of patents filed is almost entirely bogus, the economic value of each patent is difficult to evaluate (usually done by looking at litigation efforts), R&D intensity includes things that are in no way innovation and is also wrongly reported. Besides, innovation in fundamental research is only the first step, technological penetration (giggity) is another thing entirely, often resisted. The sharing economy is a great example of how a better way to generate value is met with extremely violent resistance from those who stand to lose from it. To evaluate whether a society is innovative, you have to also look at how it embraces new technology.

[Leshma]

It's from some American neo-chocolate chip cookie. I thought it accomodated well Leshma's intention with this thread.

My intentions are never that clear and have multiple tentacles going in different directions, just like my thought process. Don't try to understand what doesn't make sense.

[Pycalka]

hahaha guys white people really sucked and self-destruct. Not played crpg couple of years, and today went on EU_1 under the name "White_Power"  and a couple of minutes I kicked by the administrator with the requirement to change the nickname, I said that this is a normal nickname, but he repeatedly kicked me ) lol)) This shitty political correctness sucks, annoys me everything which is associated with the Communists and Stalin because they fucked my country, but that is no reason to kick nicknames "Communist", "Stalin", etc. However if I picked up the nickname "albert einstein", "chocolate chip cookie" or "WhitePower", then I would have immediately kicked or even banned.But I play COD4 under the name "white_power" for a year and I was never banned even on euro and asian servers.White people have forbidden themselves to be nationalists, but others are not, so if you do not start to take pride in your nation white race simply will die , other races are proud of themselves and tend to multiply, the white is not.
 And the situation with refugees has only two ways, either white expel them, or dissolve and assimilate among Muslims and blacks, completely lose their culture.I do not know what you guys think, I have traveled in North and South America and Europe , but only Europeans are afraid of non-white, I saw this animal fear in his eyes and I was very surprised, Russia is full of Muslims, but we do not have a problem with them because we live together for centuries, and we dont fear them, only dislike or neutral.All problems between Muslims and the Russians created by our government makes unrussian migration policy in order to distract us from the major issues, such as corruption, embezzlement of budget and natural resources, but we have no fear in contrast to Western Europeans to migrants.Mentally we Won, and Europeans fear having already lost, with fear you do not even join the battle, even if the battle of brains, not machines.Sorry for translated english I was too lazy to whrite this on english

hahha even on this forum, name of fuhrer and white nationalists auto changed

[Xant]

A riveting tale, old chap.