Leave or stay in the EU?

[Tibes]

....Looking out for 'our own' doesn't seem to be compatible with a united Europe or a united world goal, I always considered it to be the opposite.

Than mybe we shouldnt be THAT united?

[Armpit_Sweat]

Being united on a planetary level is a beautiful idea, beneficial both economically and as means of establishing a long term peace. I am all in for it! Though we would have to agree on terms of such prosperous coexistence first, right?..
Everyone in the west presumes we are talking about some western values, right? When you imagine a unified Earth, you don't picture sharia law, North Korean single party regime, or ways of Australian aboriginals, right? And that's where it hits the wall - I, personally, welcome everyone in the world to adopt values of the North European nations, and consider such a society as the only, personally for me, acceptable way of living the rest of my life. And someone who was burning people alive in Syria a week ago, wants that sort of society for everyone. And the gap is just to big for a grown up man to walk across. It's easier for me, for that matter, to start burning people, than for such a person to sit casually in our work cafeteria, and joke about newspaper articles involving Kim K or an elderly lady falling to her death in an industrial sized pig-piss tank ( true story from today's newspaper, we had many laughs )
So I have to be realistic here, and say - well, I can work, pay taxes, support state's foreign aid policies, and hope that western type/level of education, media, Internet, and all the other mighty western influence, will eventually change the ways of the rest of the World ( not in my lifetime ), while keeping an absolute military superiority. I guess I have to be ashamed of my selfishness, for not wishing to change my ways, but I don't...

It really does seem that the World will be united at some point, at least as a sort of Union of nations, or something... But it's not going to happen tomorrow, and definitely not by making a circus out of a few European countries.

[Turkhammer]

Oberyn actually is a straight-forward racist in the deepest corner of the term's meaning.
Who would have thought... 

There's nothing racist about a rational immigration policy.

[Oberyn]

There's nothing racist about a rational immigration policy.

That's just the mating call of the Pale European Cuck Warbler. I've learned to ignore it.

[Falka]

Just wanted to post it.

[Molly]

There's nothing racist about a rational immigration policy.

There is tho when someone brings the freaking genome as an argument into the discussion

[Kafein]

Yes, of course, because minorities being identified and identifying themselves by their collective ethnic, racial, and cultural characteristics is completely reasonable

Who the hell are you talking about? Nobody here and pretty much nobody everywhere believes that minorities should have a strong collective identity if the locals cannot have one.

[Butan]

Who the hell are you talking about? Nobody here and pretty much nobody everywhere believes that minorities should have a strong collective identity if the locals cannot have one.

His diatribe stems from the fact that we, the locals, dont have any culture because we are ok with being inter-mingled with others and dont want to kill 'em all in their sleep because of their inferior genomic potential.

[Angantyr]

Only Europe has roman/greek roots? I know many Scandinavian countries that were certainly never part of the empire and had limited exposure, whilst much of the Middle East and northern Africa had a lot of roman/greek influence.

Despite never conquering the North, the Roman influence on European culture lived on through the Frankish Empire and the institution of the Papacy, the Christian European kingdoms of the late Iron Age and Middle Ages and on to a revival of Greek philosophy during the Renaissance and Enlightenment. Mostly a fusion of Roman law (and the Roman Catholic Church) and Greek philosophy (including the influence of Plato's dualism on European Christianity). Also in Scandinavia from around the end of the Viking Age.

As for the old Roman provinces of the Middle East and North Africa, those parts of the world were conquered by Islamic Arab tribes, which, though some bits of the knowledge of the Hellenistic world were conserved, restructured the cultural landscape considerably. And later the Turks, culminating with the Fall of Constantinople and the exodus of Greek cultured people back to Europe from Asia Minor (helping to usher in the Renaissance as they brought ancient Greek writings with them to Italy).

[Leshma]

Just wanted to post it.

Last night I went for a quick walk and passed by many specimen of unemployed and uneducated Serbian youth who wander the nights wasted and broke. Heard one of those "gangs" talking about their filthy rich "friend" who is apparently Jewish and how they plan to steal from him or something. It was odd thing to witness, even for this shithole where anything can happen.

[Grytviken]

Last night I went for a quick walk and passed by many specimen of unemployed and uneducated Serbian youth who wander the nights wasted and broke. Heard one of those "gangs" talking about their filthy rich "friend" who is apparently Jewish and how they plan to steal from him or something. It was odd thing to witness, even for this shithole where anything can happen.

Isn't antisemitism one of the biggest problems in Europe atm? I heard there is a flight of Jewish people from France and Germany to Israel because they do not feel safe.

[Tibes]

Isn't antisemitism one of the biggest problems in Europe atm? I heard there is a flight of Jewish people from France and Germany to Israel because they do not feel safe.

Nope. They dont feel safe because of islamic immigration. Because, well poor Middle-Easterners are incredibly superstitious bunch of people. Heard that some of the jewish schools in France are under some pretty heavy armed police protection.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-semitism-warping-jewish-education-in-france

[Rico]

Who didn't see this one coming

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[Butan]

Nope. They dont feel safe because of islamic immigration. Because, well poor Middle-Easterners are incredibly superstitious bunch of people. Heard that some of the jewish schools in France are under some pretty heavy armed police protection.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/anti-semitism-warping-jewish-education-in-france

Anti-Semitic acts in France have soared in recent years, increasing by 84 percent in the period between January 2015 and May 2015 compared with a year earlier, according to official statistics.

There have also been a series of attacks on French Jews, including a shooting at a kosher supermarket in Paris in January 2015 that killed four.

The attacks have driven a rise in immigration from France to Israel with a record of nearly 8,000 moving to the Jewish state last year, according to Jewish Agency figures.

Israel has been branded as a land of opportunity for jews for decades now, its normal that under the quoted circumstances and the constant terorism threat, people want to feel safer.
The threat has been unabated for like fifteen years, but there has been a decent streak of terror action in France in the past years...

[Oberyn]

Don't these jewish people know they have more chances of dying in a car accident? There's nothing to fear just because a large and growing proportion of the population hate them and excuse their hatred with endless conspiracy theories and rage-filled justifications. Apparently all these attacks were nothing but false flags from Mossad controlled cells. I mean c'mon, it's 2016, people!
How do you even begin reconcile what you just said with your retarded Neo-Human one world culture fantasy? How do you manage to experience no cognitive dissonance at all? You dumb hypocritical bundle of sticks. All of a sudden the collective benefits of identity magically make perfect sense. Of course if french natives feel the same way for exactly the same reasons then it's just white-supremacist racism and baseless fear. Too bad we don't have a promised land. Too bad we don't have a land at all. It belongs to the whole of humanity, apparently.