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Offline Xant

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #105 on: April 10, 2016, 11:24:22 pm »
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I have no idea if it's true.
Meaning lies as much
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2016, 04:42:14 am »
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How does this "as a people" concept work anyway? Do jews have a hive mind? What percentage of jewish genes do you need to log on it?

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2016, 03:42:27 pm »
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I have no idea if it's true.

Well, historians showed time and a again that this as far from the truth as it gets. Regarding the Revolution 1918: After the military fail and defeat the Third OHL (which were in parts de facto head of the country, not unlike a military dictatorship) around Hindenburg and Ludendorff persuaded the crown council to put the government on a parliamentary basis, which was what the opposition always demanded. The only purpose of this sudden change of course was to put the blame of defeat and responsibility of armistice negotiation at the hands of the opposition. In the following years mainly Hindenburg and Ludendorff further pressed ahead this perfidiousness: They exploited existing myths and rumours about a treacherous 'home-front' that in fact should be responsible for the defeat, the now famous "Dolchstoßlegende". This Legend became more and more popular during the Weimarer Republik and got further 'developed' into a full anti-Semitic myth which put the blame of defeat in the hands of the jews.

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Of course this is only a shortened summary out of the top of my head you are welcome to read more about it.

Do you claim in this matter again that the work and conclusions of hundreds historians over the course of decades of research is false?

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2016, 03:47:57 pm »
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He did the same with global warming. It feels good to think oneself far more clever than the rest, the stupid sheep. Conspiracy theories are popular for a reason.

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2016, 05:08:23 pm »
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It was presented in a manner convenient for the conservative parts of the military, but among the republicans and other people rebelling at home against the war were socialists, an ideology which were perceived to be Jewish in origins.

Marx, the father of scientific socialism, was a Jew, son of many famous rabbis, and other educated German Jews were on the Left at the time, Ferdinand Lassalle for example, the founder of the German Socialist Party, or Leon Trotsky in Russia, the Marxist revolutionary and theorist. And many Jews held prominent posts and were very visible in public life during the Weimar Republic.

These and many other factors, besides convenience, made the 'Marxists' primarily a Jewish movement in National Socialist optics.

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2016, 05:35:03 pm »
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Do you claim in this matter again that the work and conclusions of hundreds historians over the course of decades of research is false?
Of course.

He did the same with global warming. It feels good to think oneself far more clever than the rest, the stupid sheep. Conspiracy theories are popular for a reason.
It feels even better to be right about being far more clever than the rest.
Meaning lies as much
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2016, 09:03:46 pm »
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Of course.

That's it? Why so quiet, oh omniscient master of logical thinking?

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2016, 09:30:30 pm »
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Do jews have a hive mind?

Whenever I visit stormer sites I'm always surprised at how the Jews are some sort of Borg-like entity in the far right mythology.

Also that they are simultaneously communists and bankers, for some reason.

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2016, 09:43:15 pm »
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Channel 4's 'Things We Won’t Say About Race That Are True'.


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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2016, 09:46:06 pm »
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That's it? Why so quiet, oh omniscient master of logical thinking?
Because I'm not going to chase your red herring.
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #115 on: April 11, 2016, 10:14:24 pm »
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So this is how you call it when you are loosing a discussion. :D
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #116 on: April 11, 2016, 10:46:05 pm »
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So this is how you call it when you are loosing a discussion. :D

He hasn't lost yet.  :lol:

You know someone has lost the argument when they have to bring dictionary definitions into it.
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #117 on: April 11, 2016, 11:10:55 pm »
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So this is how you call it when you are loosing a discussion. :D
Nonsense. I'm tightening the discussion.

He hasn't lost yet.  :lol:

I know it might be hard for you and your 80 IQ points to understand, but that was sarcasm. Defining what you're talking about should be the starting point of every debate. Compare what you quoted with this, perhaps even you will see the light after some pondering:

When Xant uses dictionnary definition to prove he's not wrong, you know he is at his limit.
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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2016, 11:12:43 pm »
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Whenever I visit stormer sites I'm always surprised at how the Jews are some sort of Borg-like entity in the far right mythology.

That's just a way for far right to acknowledge Jewish superiority. chocolate chip cookie did all kinds of monstrosities to Jews, out of fear mostly. It was their attempt to subjugate their former masters and show they are made of flesh and blood like everybody else. Same thing reds did to well standing intellectuals. Because it is just projection of one man's beliefs and he was terrified of Jews.

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Re: Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?
« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2016, 11:48:16 pm »
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Böhmermann wanted to provoke and he was successful. He overdid it entirely and didn´t criticise the politics of Erdogan, but himself as a person and that in a really wrong way. That´s why Böhmermann deserves to go to the court for that.

The problem is that, if Böhmermann goes to the court, it sorta will be a confirmation for Tardogan that all his other complains against Turks who were questioning his methods were okay aswell. This is bad for the turks who have the courage to criticize him and will restrict them even more.

Damn stupid thing you did there, Böhmermann. Stupid and egoistic.
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