Jan Böhmermann faces imprisonment for insulting Tardogan?

[Christo]

freedom of speech guys

I just read today about the media tax GEZ and how the german authorities attempted to jail somebody for refusing to pay it. not caring about it and not paying is fine, but saying it's unconstitutional gets you in jail.

germany is a weird place

[Molly]

What about the comical song though? Did ZDF really have to delete that video too?

No matter how you slice this, it is downright absurd. Even Merkel herself can freely be mocked, but not the useful fascist. He is fucking untouchable.

Nah, the song is okay. It's art - still online on the NDR.
Is calling someone donkey fucker and paedophile 'art' just cuz it rhymes?

That's probably the thing a court would have to decide: Is it art or simple insult?

[Christo]

That's probably the thing a court would have to decide: Is it art or simple insult?

kinda goes against the definition of art doesn't it

[Grytviken]

But groups like Pussy Riot get the Molly seal of approval, right? A crusade of "freedom of speech and expression" is all well and good when it's against Russia, but fascist, Islamist, Turkey? Bad insults, bad!

The EU is filled with Putinophobic racists

[Christo]

lmao

[Golem]

Molly get out of it, while you still can. Saying we have 'freedom of speech' then fining someone because he said something is like giving a child a ball and saying that he can only touch it with his hands and if he kicks it, he'll get a spanking. It's fucked up. Period.

[sF_Guardian]

You cant get imprisoned for some insults in Germany. Even if Erdotard wants it.

You can get sentenced to pay a few hundred Euros though.

[WarLord]

freedom of speech guys

I just read today about the media tax GEZ and how the german authorities attempted to jail somebody for refusing to pay it. not caring about it and not paying is fine, but saying it's unconstitutional gets you in jail.

germany is a weird place

No shit!

[Christo]

wtf
http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/erste-grossrazzia-gegen-internet-hetzer-in-berlin

[Falka]

Molly get out of it, while you still can. Saying we have 'freedom of speech' then fining someone because he said something

So you're fine with let's say biggest newspaper in your country saying on the front cover that this or that guy is a corrupted thief, pedophile or an archer, even if it's a lie? And there should be no consequences of such action? Freedom doesn't mean anarchy and freedom of speech doesn't mean you're not responsible for your words.

[Christo]

or an archer

calm down satan

[Casul]

tbh the "song" is a massive rotting piece of trash, its not art if you try to make your song famous by dropping harder insulting lines than God can even handle.

Couldnt care less about his future.   

Edit: I just read more stories about it, it looks like he got attacked before and that peom or whatever it is was his answer. whatever, shit drama 

[Kafein]

So you're fine with let's say biggest newspaper in your country saying on the front cover that this or that guy is a corrupted thief, pedophile or an archer, even if it's a lie? And there should be no consequences of such action? Freedom doesn't mean anarchy and freedom of speech doesn't mean you're not responsible for your words.

I see nothing wrong with that. If you don't like copious amounts of insults, don't buy that newspaper. All freedoms tie into each other, including capitalistic freedom. What does "responsible for your words" even mean?

[Falka]

What does "responsible for your words" even mean?

You say lies, you pay for it.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Really?

[Kafein]

You say lies, you pay for it.

Lies is slander i.e. an actual crime. Insults are just insults.