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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2016, 02:18:43 am »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2016, 01:48:58 am »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2016, 04:05:35 am »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2016, 04:50:27 am »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2016, 01:23:12 pm »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2016, 02:44:31 pm »
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I know these threads are not used a lot for anything other than complaints or small talk, but I'm interested to ask you a serious admin question because you seem like a fine gentleman and is new enough to not be fossilized about how to deal with the community.

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Dont you think there should be a ban cap per severity of offense, like in real life? My biggest issue with how bans are handled cRPG-wide is often because of the silliness of the ban times some "known individuals" get without taking into account anything else than ban history.
Of course we arent police, we dont do detective work on why does people did this or that, so ban history is a useful tool, but my opinion is that except permaban worthy stuff, all or at least some ban durations should be capped so that even when a dude got 15 bans already, if he makes one wrong move he doesnt get off for months at a time at the silliest thing.

Simply because when a ban looks retarded it sometimes is, and some "known individuals" are still beneficial to the community in terms of activity. There is also the odd case of people actually changing their ways, but since their history doesnt let up, as soon as they slip they get a huge one, and thats shit for karma.


Also I wonder how would you deal with individuals getting, for example, only "major infractions" (in your book), amouting to say 30 days ban and double for the next one; if that person does a minor infraction next, its accounted separately to all the major infractions he made?

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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2016, 03:00:59 pm »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2016, 08:38:31 am »
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I know these threads are not used a lot for anything other than complaints or small talk, but I'm interested to ask you a serious admin question because you seem like a fine gentleman and is new enough to not be fossilized about how to deal with the community.


I put on bold the significant parts.
Dont you think there should be a ban cap per severity of offense, like in real life? My biggest issue with how bans are handled cRPG-wide is often because of the silliness of the ban times some "known individuals" get without taking into account anything else than ban history.
Of course we arent police, we dont do detective work on why does people did this or that, so ban history is a useful tool, but my opinion is that except permaban worthy stuff, all or at least some ban durations should be capped so that even when a dude got 15 bans already, if he makes one wrong move he doesnt get off for months at a time at the silliest thing.

Simply because when a ban looks retarded it sometimes is, and some "known individuals" are still beneficial to the community in terms of activity. There is also the odd case of people actually changing their ways, but since their history doesnt let up, as soon as they slip they get a huge one, and thats shit for karma.


Also I wonder how would you deal with individuals getting, for example, only "major infractions" (in your book), amouting to say 30 days ban and double for the next one; if that person does a minor infraction next, its accounted separately to all the major infractions he made?

Sorry meant to reply to this sooner but got busy working this weekend.

There are a couple of stipulations that are not listed there for various reasons. The biggest one is that infractions that occurred over one calendar year ago have no bearing on the offense number a person would be on. Additionally repeated offenses only increase the severity of the ban time if the specific infraction is in fact the same as the previous one. i.e. a warning for the minor infraction of leeching becomes a 24 hour ban for the second infraction of leeching, but not if the second infraction is delaying. This of course has a limit, once 4 infractions within a category are reached the ban time doubles based on the longest ban time for an infraction in whatever category is relevant.

Even so if we do the math we see that for minor infractions we get
1st: warning
2nd: 1 day
3rd: 2 days
4th: 4 days
5th: 8 days
6th: 16 days
7th: 32 days
Which mean only extreme cases of repeated offenses would get more than a week ban time.

For major infractions it is slightly less lenient, as major infractions are the kind that directly prevent someone else from playing the game in the normal fashion. Such that: 
1st: 1 day
2nd: 2 days
3rd: 4 days
4th: 8 days
5th: 16 days
6th: 32 days
That essentially means that a person has to commit 4 of the exact same offense before even a week of ban time is handed down.

In addition to this there is the fact that, unless there is significant harm being done to the team as a whole, we generally only ban people when someone makes a specific complaint to us in a situation.


ALSO: Chat abuse, in my opinion, is when one player verbally (textually) abuses another individual in the server. In order for it to be abuse it has to be targeted and malicious. Even then there are many options with which one can avoid seeing such stuff, and so the bans for that would probably be even less severe than what is listed in the OP. That said I will be muting anyone that types the big no-no slurs in the server, and if the mute is evaded and the slurs continue a ban will be handed down. However I've honestly never seen it be an issue so long as the situation is handled properly.
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2016, 12:00:56 pm »
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let's face it sparvi u woulnd't ban me no matter how many times i called u a cheese burger eating school shooting yank ur just another shitmin get REKT
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2016, 12:54:32 pm »
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Thx for your answer, another precision:

The biggest one is that infractions that occurred over one calendar year ago have no bearing on the offense number a person would be on.

So if someone within a year does 100 minor infractions of the same category (for the sake of argument), it will keep doubling with no possible maximum?  :P  You stop at 32 days in both minor/major examples, maybe it could be that maximum duration.
Whatever is your opinion, your system seems solid, good luck in your endeavour  :mrgreen:


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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2016, 07:36:14 pm »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2016, 07:46:01 pm »
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let's face it sparvi u woulnd't ban me no matter how many times i called u a cheese burger eating school shooting yank ur just another shitmin get REKT
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2016, 08:33:15 pm »
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Re: [NA] Sparvico
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2016, 08:36:56 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2016, 08:46:13 pm »
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