Dont get me wrong i'm under no illusions that 'Friendzone' means 'I dont find you attractive'. Back in school maybe i didnt realize that (or want to realise that) but in later life when you catch yourself using the exact same words to a nice girl that is in no way attractive you cant fail to realise what those words mean.
If i meet a cool girl and she's single then ofc i'll want to stick it in her. And i wont settle for 2nd best, if the words 'dont want to risk our friendship..' even begin to form on those lips i'm already gone. We'll both agree how good it is to be special friends, and then that's the last time she'll ever see me. Life's too short to be friendzoned and spend time playing at mr platonic good friend under some insane illusion that somehow this will get you puss in the long-term.
But if i met the same girl in a social setting and i know her bf/husband then the gloves are off, no special treatment, i'd treat her the exact same way i would if they were a guy. And we might become friends, not just simple acquaintances or 'coffee once a month' friends but proper mates. For me that only really happens with girls who are good at being 'one of the lads' since otherwise we'd bore each other to death.
Well, this was the question:
serious question though: do you guys believe in friendships between men and women?
As something purely theoretical, yes, i presume it's possible. As to what my long life suggests - nope, and not worth it.
And i pretty much agree with all you wrote Heskey. But that last part is, in my opinion, a bit off. I know that "one-of-the-lads" type well enough, and half of the lads at the table are always ready to fuck them
Or if the girl is ugly, it's just sad, cause she wants to get laid, but everyone at the table thinks - "damn, she is so cool, such a shame she looks like an ass".
Now why in the world, would i go out out on a friday night, drinking, dancing, talking dirty, making cynical offensive jokes etc., with an ugly landwhale by my side?.. That's just loco
Scares everyone off.
On the other hand, if we were hanging out at my place, playing PS, smoking joints and eating pizza - i'd probably bang her even if she's fat and ugly
Cause why not?