So... French cuck leftists?

[Paul]

mission accomplished

[Oberyn]

What was the context of these changes, exactly? How did they happen? I know you think the "change" (destruction) of western civilization is inevitable , because you've been brainwashed into it, but how exactly did those various changes happen in the past? What culture, exactly, has ever not fought tooth and nail, and was only "changed" (bloodily conquered) despite itself, not as a voluntary act of retarded sacrifice?
And again, the only thing we can apparently be proud of is the way we submit to our own obliteration, as if this was admirable and brave, and not pathetic and weak. People didn't suddenly place emphasis on ethnic pride, it has been a feature of every single human collective that has ever existed, and continues to exist, and will be a feature of the ones that will persist into the future. You would have to be blind not to see it EVERYWHERE, literally every single human collective that exists today. The only places where these collectives are willingly suiciding and pretending it is a noble act of great moral virtue are in the west.

If you want to compare the history of France pre-1960's with the history of France since then, I can find much, much more to be proud of in the past. What exactly has France accomplished in this period, beside the aforementioned great effort at cultural suicide and repudiation of it's entire past?

[Angantyr]

A large part of the success of the European states comes from retaining a balance of homogeneity that is a boon in regards to cooperation and compatibility in any society or group of people. And I would dare say this is a universal principle. Too many people (to be properly assimilated) with an entirely different, hostile or simply undesirable culture causes harm to this balance, it all boils down to the numbers. And of course you can steer this development in a more rational direction, people have been doing this since the dawn of time.

[Utrakil]

I know you think the "change" (destruction) of western civilization is inevitable

what makes you fear there might be a destruction of western civilisation.
if you have a look at your countries history did all the changes (brought violently from out side or by the own people from inside) ever destroy french civilization? no it did not. it simply changed it and gave it the means to evolve to the french culture you are so proude of.
And considdering the french culture survived all the annexions, changes of religions and different political/social systems how could it be destroyed by a comparable small number of immigrants.

[Oberyn]

Because it is the expressly stated goal of post-modernist ideology, the very one that colours your own perception of these changes as being "inevitable". Because it is explicitly stated over and over in a myriad of ways. Because there's only so many times I can see people in the highest and most prestigious positions of power and influence blatantly say that it is their goal before I stop pretending it's merely a completely natural progression and not top-down social engineering. Because the open loathing and contempt of the elites at the expense of their own people, particularly the ones at the lowest end of the social ladder, and for the benefit of foreigners who have no attachment or identification with the nation and culture is now the norm.

[Angantyr]

Is pride and love really something completely foreign to some of you here when you look around at your own tribe? When you look at the European woman?

[Xant]

http://www.svt.se/svts/article5384068.svt/BINARY/Sverigespegling%20p%C3%A5%20SVT%20Nyheter.pdf

-Don't use the word "immigrant"
-Don't describe the appearance of illegals who commit crimes if they're from Africa or the mideast
-Terrorists with swedish passports are to be described as "swedes".
-If anyone claims to have been the victim of discrimination or a hate crime they are to be believed at face value

"Språk är makt. Språk är också politik. Språk signalerar normer"
"Language is power. Language is also politics. Language signals norms"

SVT is the swedish public broadcaster. These are the norms they are obligated to follow. But hey, it's just a couple of retard sociologists stuck in universities and their tumblrite followers, right Kafein? They have sooo little influence out in the real world.

That shit is unbelievably fucked up. The cover up everywhere in Europe is nuts, but Sweden takes it to another level. Like photoshopping people white...

[Paul]

Is pride and love really something completely foreign to some of you here when you look around at your own tribe? When you look at the European woman?

Wait, what is my tribe? Furthermore, there are some fine European bitches. But there are fine Asians too. Even Africans. Am I beyond help? Have I failed my tribe? Can anything cure my racetraitorism?

[Angantyr]

It's unnecessary to read anything negative against other tribes (and yes I use the term loosely) into that statement, Paul, my position is purely conservative.

We should be allowed to co-exist without being absorbed by each other. Complete separation is not desirable but magnitude of interaction is a factor (and with whom you interact - some actors are simply more desirable than others).

[Kafein]

But hey, it's just a couple of retard sociologists stuck in universities and their tumblrite followers, right Kafein? They have sooo little influence out in the real world.

Perhaps my real world is simply not the same as yours. Perhaps I am part of the elite that doesn't give a shit, that has riches more valuable than their ethnicity, unlike the average FN voter. Perhaps I care about the actual job market and actual laws where none of this bullshit matters.

You ask me if it's bad that whatever media and politicians in Sweden are doing retarded whitewashing? It is bad. I'm not so sure their plan is to destroy western civilization, cartoon villain style. What I see is a lot of clueless opportunists trying to out-carebear each other. You take shortcuts in your reasoning, lump everything into the same bag

[Leshma]

From an evolutionary point of view, mixing people of different races and cultures is always a good thing.

[Angantyr]

Perhaps my real world is simply not the same as yours. Perhaps I am part of the elite that doesn't give a shit, that has riches more valuable than their ethnicity, unlike the average FN voter. Perhaps I care about the actual job market and actual laws where none of this bullshit matters.

Though there's some statistical correlation be careful when attributing social factors to nationalism or opposition to immigration rather than simply having different values.

Just one example out of many European conservative parties gaining broad popular support;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany,
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/05/germanys-farage-becomes-leader-of-eurosceptic-alternative-for-germany-party/

In September 2012, Alexander Gauland, a former federal minister, Bernd Lucke, an economist and Konrad Adam, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung from 1979 to 2000 and chief correspondent of Die Welt until 2008, founded the political group Electoral Alternative 2013 (German: Wahlalternative 2013) in Bad Nauheim, to oppose German federal policies concerning the eurozone crisis. Their manifesto was endorsed by 68 economists, journalists, and business leaders, half of whom were professors and three-quarters of whom had academic degrees.[16]

At the outset AfD presented itself as conservative and middle-class,[62] catering to a well-educated demographic as more than two-thirds of its initial supporters held doctorates,[63] giving it the nickname the "professors' party".[64] The party was described as professors and academics who dislike the compromises inflicted on their purist theories by German party politics.[65] 86% of the party's initial supporters were male.[33]

on 4 July 2015 Frauke Petry was elected as the de facto principal speaker of the party with 60% of the member votes ahead of Bernd Lucke at a party congress in Essen. Petry is a member of the right-wing faction of the AfD.[50] Her leadership was widely seen as heralding a shift of the party to the right, to focus more on issues such as migration, Islam and strengthening ties to Russia,[51] a shift which was claimed by Lucke as turning the party into a "Pegida party".[52]

A straw poll by The Economist found that nine out of ten PEGIDA protesters would back the AfD.[81]

[Leshma]

The Second Most Powerful Man On Earth, Tsar Putin The Great Endorses The Arising Most Powerful Man To Be On Earth: Sir Donald Trump The Great. Both Will Roast Turkey And The Earth Will Rejoice For Thanksgiving

[Rhekimos]

‘This Will Be The End Of Trump’s Campaign’

[Kafein]

Though there's some statistical correlation be careful when attributing social factors to nationalism or opposition to immigration rather than simply having different values.

Just one example out of many European conservative parties gaining broad popular support;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany,
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/07/05/germanys-farage-becomes-leader-of-eurosceptic-alternative-for-germany-party/

Looks like between 2012 and now that party got co-opted by exactly the people I'm talking about, or rather their cynic overlords.