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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #210 on: November 27, 2015, 11:53:38 pm »
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Hmm... If this is not photoshopped, what's the deal with these helmets?.. Some sort of headphone-reserved space? There must be some functionality behind it, since it looks absolutely ridiculous. They both look like that disgusting creature from the harry potter movies.

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #211 on: November 27, 2015, 11:58:11 pm »
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Hmm... If this is not photoshopped, what's the deal with these helmets?.. Some sort of headphone-reserved space? There must be some functionality behind it, since it looks absolutely ridiculous. They both look like that disgusting creature from the harry potter movies.

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #212 on: November 28, 2015, 12:23:31 am »
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I have an impression that someone else desperately want Russia to go with war with someone so they can step in and win that war after sides that were fighting exhaust each other.

Only thing Russia wants is to have some influence over eastern Europe and to do business with western Europe. Someone else doesn't want any of that to happen.

Putin is his own worst enemy. He let's his emotions get the best of him. If he played Call of Duty his alias would be LoNEWOLFxXx420xxRUS. Every single international disagreement he has could have been avoided, including Turkey, simply by using diplomacy or cooperating with others. Instead he decides to boycott Turkish tomatoes and act like a fool escalating the situation. I think the story on RT has changed several more times now.

 https://www.rt.com/business/iraq-russia-oil-plan-186/   Russia is not excluded from any economic ventures, they just pretend the system is rigged against them so they can politicize everything for publicity and propaganda, because like you said they want to economically "influence" others. The truth is Russia would be a very boring country without some kind of ideological enemy, they know as well as we do it would be mutual suicide and pointless to start a war. Whenever there is any kind of disagreement the media brings up Cold War stigmas on both sides for publicity, it's as simple as that.

 Comparing the US going full vigilante on countries who don't play by the rules does not compare to the hypocrisy of Russia taking land from the Ukraine forcibly, with no negotiations, and then directly stepping in to the do the dirty work and protect the sovereignty of a dictator who has been proven to have committed warcrimes against his own. Every single example you gave on your list only tells one side of the story or is blatantly made up bullshit propaganda from Chumpsky.
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #213 on: November 28, 2015, 12:32:51 am »
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There must be some functionality behind it

ear venting?


haha, they really presented these helmets in Bavaria as new euqipment fit for responding terrorism after the attacks in Paris...

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dat look of the poor policeman  :D
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #214 on: November 28, 2015, 12:50:28 am »
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Leshma, did you forget to get your prescription filled?

For chronic cough?

Makes more sense than "Russia wants war, cause stronk". Russia can't afford going into major war against moderately strong country like Turkey. Not to mention that means opposing NATO, strongest military force on Earth. Believe me, if Russians were strong enough to take on NATO, they would do it long time ago.

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #215 on: November 28, 2015, 01:02:22 am »
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Putin is his own worst enemy. He let's his emotions get the best of him.

Only people on this forum and common sheep believe that country leaders are being driven by emotions. You feel rage against muslims because of terrorist attacks in France/USA and demand a crusade. Elite sees that as an opportunity to make more money by showing off their new military tech, later to sell it to same people they bombed.

Putin is not stupid and he certainly isn't driven by emotions. I doubt he has any left. Dude's a former KGB spy, his actions are calculated as they get.

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https://www.rt.com/business/iraq-russia-oil-plan-186/   Russia is not excluded from any economic ventures, they just pretend the system is rigged against them so they can politicize everything for publicity and propaganda, because like you said they want to economically "influence" others. The truth is Russia would be a very boring country without some kind of ideological enemy, they know as well as we do it would be mutual suicide and pointless to start a war. Whenever there is any kind of disagreement the media brings up Cold War stigmas on both sides for publicity, it's as simple as that.

 Comparing the US going full vigilante on countries who don't play by the rules does not compare to the hypocrisy of Russia taking land from the Ukraine forcibly, with no negotiations, and then directly stepping in to the do the dirty work and protect the sovereignty of a dictator who has been proven to have committed warcrimes against his own. Every single example you gave on your list only tells one side of the story or is blatantly made up bullshit propaganda from Chumpsky.

Fully agree that he is populist leader who created boogieman he's supposed to fight again and save his people. But isn't the same situation in USA? Isn't socialism your boogieman? You openly criticize Scandinavian countries because they implemented some socialist measures, even thought they are doing mighty fine. They picked the best from capitalism and socialism. But if you're American you can't even think about socialist measures, because that is a dirty word.

Now you have that clown Trump who is of same political mold as Putin, a populist scumbag. He's telling you it's about time to make America great again. Please enlighten me, when did America stopped being great? Maybe it has something with others catching up a bit, you know? Like in sport. Even Africans can play football these days. That doesn't mean Germany aren't the best at the game. But difference is smaller than ever.
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #216 on: November 28, 2015, 01:02:33 am »
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For chronic cough?

Makes more sense than "Russia wants war, cause stronk". Russia can't afford going into major war against moderately strong country like Turkey. Not to mention that means opposing NATO, strongest military force on Earth. Believe me, if Russians were strong enough to take on NATO, they would do it long time ago.

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #217 on: November 28, 2015, 01:14:31 am »
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Oh gawd, what's going on? Leshma seeming to be the saner1 one in a discussion?


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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #218 on: November 28, 2015, 01:25:42 am »
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Only people on this forum and common sheep believe that country leaders are being driven by emotions. You feel rage against muslims because of terrorist attacks in France/USA and demand a crusade. Elite sees that as an opportunity to make more money by showing off their new military tech, later to sell it to same people they bombed.

Putin is not stupid and he certainly isn't driven by emotions. I doubt he has any left. Dude's a former KGB spy, his actions are calculated as they get.

Fully agree that he is populist leader who created boogieman he's supposed to fight again and save his people. But isn't the same situation in USA? Isn't socialism your boogieman? You openly criticize Scandinavian countries because they implemented some socialist measures, even thought they are doing mighty fine. They picked the best from capitalism and socialism. But if you're American you can't even think about socialist measures, because that is a dirty word.

Now you have that clown Trump who is of same political mold as Putin, a populist scumbag. He's telling you it's about time to make America great again. Please enlighten me, when did America stopped being great? Maybe it has something with others catching up a bit, you know? Like in sport. Even Africans can play football these days. That doesn't mean Germany aren't the best at the game. But difference is smaller than ever.

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Socialist policies exist in the USA just not to the extent of Europe, there are politicians looking to expand them. The majority of the US budget goes into socialist programs. If we went full socialist like Scandinavia we would go under financially, our population is too big, New York City has a bigger population than the entire country of Norway for example. Also the election is a year away, nothing really matters atm, they can say whatever they want so don't take the candidates too seriously yet.
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #219 on: November 28, 2015, 01:51:02 am »
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Hmm... If this is not photoshopped, what's the deal with these helmets?.. Some sort of headphone-reserved space? There must be some functionality behind it, since it looks absolutely ridiculous.

This is how we will protect our ears in the future!!!!

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #220 on: November 28, 2015, 06:16:05 am »
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maybe it provides some protection to their collar bones from downward thrusts with blunt objects? :3

I've heard someone say collar bones take the least amount of force to break more than any bone in the body... I think it was a self defense trainer or something, was telling people to strike open palmed at someones collar bone if you're in a fight for your life... Always wondered if it was effective, never seen anyone do it.


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Maybe they double as rain hats... and they are flared out like that to act as like a helmet-umbrella for the face!

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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #221 on: November 28, 2015, 08:07:48 am »
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I have an impression that someone else desperately want Russia to go with war with someone so they can step in and win that war after sides that were fighting exhaust each other.

Only thing Russia wants is to have some influence over eastern Europe and to do business with western Europe. Someone else doesn't want any of that to happen.

Lol some influence? They want to own eastern Europe. By "someone" you mean, basically everyone with some common sense thats not a russian skinhead? They had all the influence and possibilities in the late 90s to start fresh with Eastern-EU, a lot of ties exsisted between them and Russia,  but Russia decided to go full asshole, because it was either all or nothing for them. So Eastern Europe turned to US and the West more and completely shut Russia out. Your impression is false. Even Scandinavia, with its few dealings, knows that Russias fame as an expansive and hostile nation is quite accurate.

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Makes more sense than "Russia wants war, cause stronk". Russia can't afford going into major war against moderately strong country like Turkey. Not to mention that means opposing NATO, strongest military force on Earth. Believe me, if Russians were strong enough to take on NATO, they would do it long time ago.

Does not make more sense tbh. "Some influence" is about a wrong of a claim as it gets.
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #222 on: November 28, 2015, 11:17:58 am »
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #223 on: November 28, 2015, 11:35:14 am »
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For chronic cough?

Makes more sense than "Russia wants war, cause stronk". Russia can't afford going into major war against moderately strong country like Turkey. Not to mention that means opposing NATO, strongest military force on Earth. Believe me, if Russians were strong enough to take on NATO, they would do it long time ago.
Who is saying Russia wants to go to war? You're being stupid if you think this is going to become world war 3. You've created a false dichotomy. "Either this is an illuminati plot, or Russia wants war."
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Re: Turkey downed a Russian plane
« Reply #224 on: November 28, 2015, 12:15:55 pm »
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They had all the influence and possibilities in the late 90s to start fresh with Eastern-EU, a lot of ties exsisted between them and Russia
Is hate and resentment considered ties?
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If we went full socialist like Scandinavia we would go under financially, our population is too big, New York City has a bigger population than the entire country of Norway for example. Also the election is a year away, nothing really matters atm, they can say whatever they want so don't take the candidates too seriously yet.
USA also has the greatest BIP/per capita so with the right imposition, there would be no trouble. The same way social spending is proportional to the size of the population, state income are proportional to it too (combined with the wealth of the population, which is on average not so bad in US).
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