Patch notes/just give us a general idea?

[Novamere]

I have asked myself the same question over and over, but then again I realize there are people like you out there, and it makes me feel better 

Thats pathetic bro, admitting your suicidal on the internet.

[Panos_]

Thats pathetic bro, admitting your suicidal on the internet.

You`re*

[Dupre]

Oh, poor baby got hurt because we wrote our opinions?

Naw I just don't feel like wasting my time on turds like you.

[BlackxBird]

ban him and make the patch.

[Panos_]

ban him and make the patch.

Yeah, ban me for posting my opinion.

[pepejul]

PEPE totally supports Panos in this thread.




What did he say ?

[POOPHAMMER]

Naw I just don't feel like wasting my time on turds like you.

So the rest of us have to suffer?

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

I mean whats new? Forum shitposters QQ about shit and ruin the game for everyone else like every single other patch thats been released lol

[Panos_]

I don`t really get why I have to be the one to blame, I just expressed my concerns regarding the new patch.
I fail to see how my posts motivated dupree to delete the patch, go back a couple of pages and see for yourselves, all I did was to point out something that I believe, and some others, that are wrong.

But, if that makes you happy Dupre, here you go,

I`m sorry if I said anything insulting towards you.

There, now give us the patch with the half dead horses please, and we can all gather on eu1 for a major hug.

[Panos_]

I don`t really get why I have to be the one to blame, I just expressed my concerns regarding the new patch.
I fail to see how my posts motivated dupree to delete the patch, go back a couple of pages and see for yourselves, all I did was to point out something that I believe, and some others, that are wrong.

But, if that makes you happy Dupre, here you go,

I`m sorry if I said anything insulting towards you.

There, now give us the patch with the half dead horses please, and we can all gather on eu1 for a major hug.

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Once again, the glorious 2hander master race wins.

The new, non abusable stab lasted for how long? 7-8 months? And now you want to bring the lolstab back, why? Because the epeen of all the fail players who were only good by S keying and abusing the insta stab can feel good about their epeen again???

I play the mod for 5 years, and every year is the same shit, 2h gets a minor nerf, and all the abusing little twats change to the most OP class at the time , couple of patches later 2h class gets a huge buff and every teenager who feeds his violence insticts by being a 2h sperglord is happy again. At least have the decency to  salvare le apparenze, and treat the other melee classes like with the 2h class.

Haven`t you ever wondered why all the so called "good duelists" are all 2handers? They master blocking, they playsafe (no kicks, no chambering, no risks) and the only thing they try to do is hug and right spam you in order to abuse the retarded hit boxes, hug you and abuse the insta stab which deals a ton of damage, or just outspam you, since once again the 2h class has the fastest animations ( yeah, even faster from the polearm over head)

In the past the 4d polearm class has suffered a lot of huge nerfs :

- Polestun
- Small stun after each succesful hit
- Speed reduction
- Damage reduction

Are some of the prime examples of the nerfs the polearm class suffered, have you seen any polearmer whine about the nerfs? No, thats because we adopt, we don`t whine and threaten to change our class as soon as it gets nerfed, like the baby GTX did with tears in his eyes when the new GOOD stab was implemented, but it`s ok, as long as the 2hander master teenager race is happy, then the mod will be ok aswell, hell, I bet we will see an increase to the players again!


Nice move nerfing the HP of the heavy horses a bit, I bet the "dev" who thought of it said to himself "Hey, lancing is not shit enough with the angle restriction and the fact that you need  2 and sometimes 3 stabs with a lance to kill an archer with very light year, better fucke their horses up aswell, AND BUFF RANGED SO THEY CAN KILL HORSES WITH THEIR 180 TURN FROM A DISTANCE", really really genius indeed!


And for fuck sake, do something about the fucking throwing lances, can`t you see that they are very overpowered?

Infinite ammo
Hideous melee speed
Hideous melee damage

BUT HEY, WE ARE NERFING STONES, HOO FUCKING RAY!!!


REJOICE C-RPGERS, THE STONES ARE GETTING NERFED!


I though I have seen it all with Tydouche, I guess I was wrong.

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What I will never understand is why every dev team feels the need to force the hands of the players, to min max their characters, instead of promoting theme following.

I struggle really hard not to be another generic lancer with a generic build, wearing a heavy kuyak, but for fucks sake, how are we supposed to enjoy the game when you are trying to make us all look the same and play the same. Every patch is another step to failure.


How am I supposed to enjoy a mod where ARMOURED horses die with 2 arrows? How am I supposed to enjoy a mod that 1 arrow to the back of my horse takes 1/3 of its HP?

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There is still time to fix some things, every player can agree that throwing lances are very overpowered, both in melee and as throwing, yet you heavily nerf a throwing weapon that only people who troll use, stones 

What the hell is on your mind, really?

You want to buff mounted ranged again, yet you keep lancing still at the bottom of the pit, and for what? Because people who have the perception of a dead monkey can`t use footwork to avoid incoming lances?

If the horses are really weak, that actually die from 2 arrows, who the fuck is the nemesis of ranged, other ranged?

There are veteran players who play the mod since day 1, and you want to bring the most abusive mechanism back, why? Did spamwhore suggested this? And who the fuck puts a brainless teenager, who`s name even suggests that his gamestyle is based on abuse as an item advisor?



IMO, and I want to believe that out there are people who agree with me, the next patch should be something like this

- Remove the damage cap for mounted ranged, add the angle restriction
- Add angle restriction to 1h cavalry aswell
- Or, remove entirely the angle restriction
- Buff the damage of the lances, having to hit an archer 3 times is really lame, BUT REMOVE THE COUCHING ABILITY OF NORMAL LANCES
- Increase the switching time from ranged to melee of the throwing lances, decrease their melee damage and speed
- KEEP THE NEW 2H STAB
- Decrease the speed of heavy horses, add them more armour or HP
- Increase the glance chance of 1h stabs from hug distance
- Increase the glance chance of 2d polearm stab from hug distance


just my 2 cents.

I feel like a scapegoat.

[Dupre]

I don`t really get why I have to be the one to blame, I just expressed my concerns regarding the new patch.
I fail to see how my posts motivated dupree to delete the patch, go back a couple of pages and see for yourselves, all I did was to point out something that I believe, and some others, that are wrong.

But, if that makes you happy Dupre, here you go,

I`m sorry if I said anything insulting towards you.

There, now give us the patch with the half dead horses please, and we can all gather on eu1 for a major hug.

Naw. Nothing you said was insulting. I'm annoyed by how ungrateful and how almost none you appreciate the time matt2507 and I have been putting into this mod with only us 2 doing 90% of the work. Community can't even help with figuring out the map rotation... instead you sit here do nothing and write really long pointless opinion posts.

Also, patch notes is very minumal. Most of you have no idea on the other adjustments and additions that were being added to the patch.

[Tristan_of_Erzoth]

Naw. Nothing you said was insulting. I'm annoyed by how ungrateful and how almost none you appreciate the time matt2507 and I have been putting into this mod with only us 2 doing 90% of the work. Community can't even help with figuring out the map rotation... instead you sit here do nothing and write really long pointless opinion posts.

Also, patch notes is very minumal. Most of you have no idea on the other adjustments and additions that were being added to the patch.

You mean this thread that got tons of community feedback and people offering to help? http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/quick-pre-patch-map-rotation-adjustment-(community-feedback-required)/

And people have offered to help, if I wasn't a mental retard I'd help you guys out but I dont know how to do modeling or coding and tbh cant be fucked to learn while already working and going to school full time. And again, no one is being ungrateful I think most people are just still pissed off at you for tugging our dicks and saying you were going to delete our looms. If there's one thing you should know since you might not have figured it out by now is that most cRPG players would probably kill someone IRL just for a +3

[Algarn]

I stayed in touch with the item threads in the suggestion corner, and I think it'd suck to not add them. I'd damn myself for viking/byzantine themed weapons/armors. This being said tho, Panos raised 2/3 points that were fucked up if you look at it correctly, nerfing stones while leaving lances' melee damages, and throwing daggers/shurikens damage could deserve more reflection upon. Plus reverting back to the old stab instead of putting Senni's new animation (if he did hand it over to you) could be reflected upon too. Don't take it personally, I think there are obvious whiners, me included, but everyone enjoys a stable, full server with a lot of new and good looking items. Patch the server without the "balance changes", keep them for later, and everyone will stop whining.

[mcdeath]

Naw. Nothing you said was insulting. I'm annoyed by how ungrateful and how almost none you appreciate the time matt2507 and I have been putting into this mod with only us 2 doing 90% of the work. Community can't even help with figuring out the map rotation... instead you sit here do nothing and write really long pointless opinion posts.

Also, patch notes is very minumal. Most of you have no idea on the other adjustments and additions that were being added to the patch.

I offered to help you. Also I'm not ungrateful, I just think that some of the things you listed in the patch notes are unnecessary and really didn't need to be touched opposed to some of the other issues in this game.

[Asheram]

Naw. Nothing you said was insulting. I'm annoyed by how ungrateful and how almost none you appreciate the time matt2507 and I have been putting into this mod with only us 2 doing 90% of the work. Community can't even help with figuring out the map rotation... instead you sit here do nothing and write really long pointless opinion posts.

Also, patch notes is very minumal. Most of you have no idea on the other adjustments and additions that were being added to the patch.

Well as long as you are not deleting my looms, gold and gens I couldn't care less if you patch the game. Hell even stop whatever work on it that all of us are so ungrateful for IDC the game works well enough as it is for me to have fun in it.

EDIT: also I guess Panos is the only one allowed to express his opinion ty for the -1