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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2015, 05:58:18 pm »
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My common sense is tickling...

Why would they even do that crap? They literally only have shit to lose.
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2015, 06:30:22 pm »
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Because they want to be better than Google at it and earn shitload of money Google is currently earning by spying customers and selling their data. Only way to be better in this game is to be more intrusive.


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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2015, 07:16:36 pm »
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Microsoft doing something stupid that alienates users and will hardly even make that much of a profit? Unthinkable!

That said, the Czech article looks like a sensational jump-to-conclusions party, with some paranoia for flavor.

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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2015, 08:48:21 pm »
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That is tl;dr version. This article is source: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Faeronet.cz%2Fnews%2Fanalyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-jde-o-pouhy-terminal-na-sber-informaci-o-uzivateli-jeho-prstech-ocich-a-hlasu%2F

Another article: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

Second article looks genuine, and it pretty much describes what everybody (Google, Apple, Microsoft...) does nowadays.
First article is 100% tinfoil hatter bullshit. If it was true you would be reading it on every news site by now, there are a lot of skilled hackers/reverse engineers who find stuff like that immediately.

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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #140 on: August 15, 2015, 10:40:14 am »
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Yea, if it was true, it would have been all over IT news in an instant.
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #142 on: September 18, 2015, 03:24:08 pm »
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Ok so i go out for 40 minutes, come back, try to launch a game again, see that its missing executable. Wut. Go to My Computer, have a crapton of space free, check windows.old folder, completely empty. So everything was completely cleaned out, without me even being at the computer. No viruses as i scan regularly, and im pretty sure my automatic updates are disabled. What the fuck. I have to reinstall so much shit...
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #143 on: September 18, 2015, 03:48:18 pm »
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If Steam supported Linux even more with all games I'd switch so hard.
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #144 on: September 18, 2015, 04:14:41 pm »
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Wine is shit for games anyway, too much hassle and performance is not the best. There is wrapper called eon, developed by some company who is porting windows games. At first it was utter garbage. They ported Witcher 2 using it and game was completely unplayable, four times lower fps (10-20 on any PC) and bunch of crashes, many couldn't even start the game.

Linux users tend to be pretentious assholes and hate proprietary software, especially wrappers. Backslash was brutal, most companies would pack the bags and show middle finger to tiny Linux community. However these guys apologized and went to work. Many patches after, Witcher 2 works fine with 10% lower fps than Windows version.

Many games were ported afterwards using eon, there were input related problems and occasional freezes in some games. Their latest port was especially hard task to deal with, infamous unoptimized game called ARMA 3. Linux users were prepared for failure, considering how demanding game on Windows is. Result is something else, same average fps as on Windows (max fps is often lesser on linux but min fps tend to be much higher). Some of eon games have even better fps than Windows games. That is exceptional result because they are using wrapper. If Valve means serious with SteamOS, they'll give even more benefits to developers so they pay eon to port rest of games in Steam library.

New games can use Vulkan, but we'll see how developers will react to it. Currently they only talk about DX12. EA, Ubisoft and Activision don't seem to be interested in Linux at all but that will change if they see Valve making money with it.

Valve's Dota 2 on Source 2 engine works considerably faster on OpenGL than either DX API. At end of the year they'll develop Vulkan API which should give even better fps. It isn't matter can gaming experience be good or better on Linux than it is on Windows, It is just about money taking Microsoft does every time they feel threatened,

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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #145 on: September 18, 2015, 04:18:06 pm »
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Ok so i go out for 40 minutes, come back, try to launch a game again, see that its missing executable. Wut. Go to My Computer, have a crapton of space free, check windows.old folder, completely empty. So everything was completely cleaned out, without me even being at the computer. No viruses as i scan regularly, and im pretty sure my automatic updates are disabled. What the fuck. I have to reinstall so much shit...
Windows.old will be deleted after 30 days or something of Windows 10 usage.
Commonly known, really.

Not having a prompt is bad tho...
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #146 on: September 18, 2015, 04:22:37 pm »
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Software that tend to do things on its own without asking for user's permission is called malware.

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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #147 on: September 18, 2015, 04:24:52 pm »
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Windows.old will be deleted after 30 days or something of Windows 10 usage.
Commonly known, really.

Not having a prompt is bad tho...

Really? I had no idea of this. Well, shit is gone now.
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #148 on: September 18, 2015, 04:27:37 pm »
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I'm actually surprised that it just deletes itself without saying anything.
My guess is that it was deleted during boot up. Any chance you overlooked some prompt when shutting down the time before this happens?

I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't ask for access permission.
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Re: Windows 10 rollout started...
« Reply #149 on: September 18, 2015, 04:55:26 pm »
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I'm actually surprised that it just deletes itself without saying anything.
My guess is that it was deleted during boot up. Any chance you overlooked some prompt when shutting down the time before this happens?

I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't ask for access permission.

I didnt shut down when it happened, i was playing a game, quit and left the computer on when i went out, came back and couldnt launch the same game because everything was gone..
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