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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2015, 12:23:57 pm »
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I've participated in competitive native for a while and I can tell you that it's not like cRPG at all. So if you are a 2hand hero or a tincan cav prepare to get rekt. Native is all about 1hand + shield and ranged. There is no yolo charging and winning by surprise, you just move up strategically forming a shieldwall and hide behind every rock you can find trying to dodge the ranged spam. The actual battles are always fought around the flags.

Nontheless sometimes you do get 1v1 or 2v1 battles and here you can shine, just prepare for a lot of feinting.

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2015, 04:34:13 pm »
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I would gladly help put together a team and run over basics with the team before the tournament, I have been in the Native competitive community since 2011 so if you all want help I am happy to. Anyway infantry in Native isn't so much fodder anymore, cav is more of a support role nowadays, the top 3 killers in our last tournament all played inf a majority of the time. Over 7 matches Cru(an inf) had 150 kills, Kel(inf again) had 131 and Tito(inf/archer) had 124, now I was 4th and I play mostly cav, but you get my point that Infantry actually can get a lot of kills nowadays

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 05:43:45 pm »
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native will make your eyes hurt from all that 360 wololofeinting

No one does that when fighting tournaments. Also you can spam the bastards who like do that.

Anyway, since there is money involved I'm 99% percent sure that completely anonymous Asian (Korean) team will pop out of nowhere and kick everybody's asses.

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 02:44:52 am »
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No one does that when fighting tournaments. Also you can spam the bastards who like do that.

Anyway, since there is money involved I'm 99% percent sure that completely anonymous Asian (Korean) team will pop out of nowhere and kick everybody's asses.

Good luck with 300 ping lol

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2015, 03:52:56 am »
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cRPG skills do not carry over at all to Native. Being good at feinting or blocking two opponents are completely useless skills. Competitive Native is all about map control and ranged angles, infantry is just fodder that pushes positions and provides opportunities for kills for the frag classes, cav and ranged. Being the best player at cRPG makes you a below average Native competitive player, because the meta is highly specific, way more specific than cRPG. A cRPG team would absolutely suck unless they get trained by someone who is very experienced at Native and puts them through some extensive training on all the maps, flag positions, buying orders, drops, bump and stun coördination, and native 1h shield fighting. So, better get started quick.

Agreed, map control is king in Native. The (actually good) Native players usually fill a certain role in large group play, much like competitive sports.
cRPG doesn't have (m)any group-based fights and our maps change too often, so our ADD 2h Hero culture wouldn't translate well to Native group tourneys.
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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 04:38:07 am »
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Agreed, map control is king in Native. The (actually good) Native players usually fill a certain role in large group play, much like competitive sports.
cRPG doesn't have (m)any group-based fights and our maps change too often, so our ADD 2h Hero culture wouldn't translate well to Native group tourneys.

Not to mention having to block a completely different 2h stab. Shit gets me pretty bad since I'm only used to the cRPG one.

Also - Native players are used to Fastest, cRPG players are used to Medium. Do the math :shrug:
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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2015, 07:30:15 am »
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Not to mention having to block a completely different 2h stab. Shit gets me pretty bad since I'm only used to the cRPG one.

Also - Native players are used to Fastest, cRPG players are used to Medium. Do the math :shrug:

This tournament will be in medium speed actually, also there's hardly any 2h in a competitive match.

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2015, 09:02:40 am »
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I didn't even realize competitive warband was a thing until yesterday or so when I watched a little bit of a youtube video of a tournament match. The individual player's skill honestly seemed surprisingly low, but dat teamwork was spot on. Although I guess in a 2v1 situation, if the 2 guys got flawless teamwork, the 1 guy will get shit on regardless of his skill, so there's that.
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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2015, 05:11:12 pm »
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I didn't even realize competitive warband was a thing until yesterday or so when I watched a little bit of a youtube video of a tournament match. The individual player's skill honestly seemed surprisingly low, but dat teamwork was spot on. Although I guess in a 2v1 situation, if the 2 guys got flawless teamwork, the 1 guy will get shit on regardless of his skill, so there's that.

how old was the video? and who were the clans? We got bad calns too lol Here's a stream from UNAC s3, our annual NA tourney, this is the playoffs it was an intense match

http://www.twitch.tv/warbandna/c/4673188

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2015, 05:14:32 pm »
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Also this is the championship from Season 1 http://www.twitch.tv/warbandna/c/3225129

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2015, 07:23:26 pm »
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This tournament will be in medium speed actually, also there's hardly any 2h in a competitive match.

That's honestly pretty surprising to me. I thought everyone considered the Warband "MLG" to be native tunic dueling with Great Swords on Fastest.
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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2015, 07:40:09 pm »
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That's honestly pretty surprising to me. I thought everyone considered the Warband "MLG" to be native tunic dueling with Great Swords on Fastest.

It's international, so we are trying to be Euro friendly, so we switched to Euro settings, Medium speed 1k gold

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2015, 07:46:45 pm »
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That's honestly pretty surprising to me. I thought everyone considered the Warband "MLG" to be native tunic dueling with Great Swords on Fastest.
Ever tried Native ranged, one does not simply play Native seriously without a shield. You barely need to be able to manually block, you rarely have to.

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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2015, 07:50:05 pm »
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Ever tried Native ranged, one does not simply play Native seriously without a shield. You barely need to be able to manually block, you rarely have to.

Apart from the 100% accuracy, insane draw speed, missile speed, missile stun and damage it is not that bad really.
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Re: Warband Pro League
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2015, 08:30:29 pm »
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Apart from the 100% accuracy, insane draw speed, missile speed, missile stun and damage it is not that bad really.
That is why native is easy