Add over head spear attack (with shield)

[Zanze]

Overhead stab with EVERY spear.

[Splenyi]

Overhead stab with EVERY spear.

DAMN STRAIGHT

[Ragni_Bross]

This guy has some interesting points http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klOc9C-aPr4&feature=relmfu

I think it's this video.

[dodnet]

This guy has some interesting points http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klOc9C-aPr4&feature=relmfu

Yeah, holding a spear this way makes much more sense. If you look at the spears stats now, they seem quite long. But ingame they all are hold in the middle of the shaft, which only gives them half the real length. They are outreached by most 2h which should be much shorter in reach.

Watch that video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixm6sXe1TYE&feature=relmfu there is also an example of a spear held with two hands. That guy holds his spear at the very end not in the middle, giving him full reach. All other spears are also held at the end.

[Zerran]

Overhead stab with EVERY spear.

But... then the 2H my old friends heroes wont be able to laugh as they charge a line of spears with their downblock held! It might even promote... teamwork! And we certainly can't have that!

[Rebelyell]

yep agree

[Inglorious]

But... then the 2H my old friends heroes wont be able to laugh as they charge a line of spears with their downblock held! It might even promote... teamwork! And we certainly can't have that!

+1

Relative to what was posted in the previous link - even with the overhead thrust being slightly less range, it would still have its effectiveness vs. up close spammers! So fear not! And like the man said, teamwork may insue. One high thrust, one low thrust.

[Spa_geh_tea]

Pipe dream......

Reminds me of the early crpg days when their was the first hoplite/stratia clan.

[Sarpton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e4fXlcQ0qA&feature=related&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvwbUgBtErU&feature=relmfu&hd=1    This shows it in action.


Shows a good idea for spears that have 2 attack directions that are easily distinguishable from each other.  And yes you up block to block the up attack direction.  I don't see why the addition would be a bad one. 


Also comes from an open source mod for warband already so .....

[CrazyCracka420]

This is just common sense, 5 spearman shouldn't be all blocked by one person holding down block.  You might see more teamwork similar to medieval warfare instead of the counter-strike/rambo heroes we have now.

Can't believe this was suggested over a year ago...just imagine all the 2h whine that would pour if this was ever implemented.  It makes me tingle in dark places.

[Spa_geh_tea]

This was suggested many many times. I have even tried the argument "can we at least try it, and if its too op just take it away. Like morning star crushthrough. And the chamber is the same, which players use a lot against spears anyway."

Not sure why they are so against just giving it a shot.

[oprah_winfrey]

So basically it will be the same thing as when the long spear/pike had an overhand. People would just go around in groups of two with one overhanding and one poking, trolling anyone that is without a teammate. OH, except under this suggestion, it all does pierce.

I don't see two handers comlaining that their lolstab was aimed at your face and you blocked it with a downblock.

[Spa_geh_tea]

So basically it will be the same thing as when the long spear/pike had an overhand. People would just go around in groups of two with one overhanding and one poking, trolling anyone that is without a teammate. OH, except under this suggestion, it all does pierce.

I don't see two handers comlaining that their lolstab was aimed at your face and you blocked it with a downblock.

2h has an overhead. Spear shielders have one attack.....that's why. And what's so horibble about developing new fighting styles to wreck 2h users? How high is the percent of kills do to 2h over any other melee class?

I say 2h are a buncho pussies if they can't handle a 2directional spear stab from a shielder.

Yeah I'm calling you out on this one. You are yellahr bellay.

[oprah_winfrey]

2h has an overhead. Spear shielders have one attack.....that's why. And what's so horibble about developing new fighting styles to wreck 2h users? How high is the percent of kills do to 2h over any other melee class?

I say 2h are a buncho pussies if they can't handle a 2directional spear stab from a shielder.

Yeah I'm calling you out on this one. You are yellahr bellay.

Last I checked all the hoplite weapons have 2 or more attack directions if you put your shield on your back.

[Spa_geh_tea]

Last I checked all the hoplite weapons have 2 or more attack directions if you put your shield on your back.

Then they are no longer a hoplite. So invalid arguement.

Crpg definition of hoplite: one who wields polearm and shield as weapon configuration.

Once the shields on their back they are no longer wielding it.

You are also requireing them to master two fighting styles compared to 2h one fighting style. That is an unjust request.

I'm going to guess your rebuttal to that is that some 2h can be used with a shield. But, it is weak as well. I agree we should buff that aspect of the game as well. And give half handing an overhead swing.