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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2015, 10:58:28 pm »
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If the traitor flag represents treason and sedition, then so does the US flag.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2015, 11:37:43 pm »
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If the traitor flag represents treason and sedition, then so does the US flag.

To the Brits maybe.  The United States didn't declare war on itself, the Confederacy did.  Does being that disingenuous hurt?   I was always curious.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2015, 11:39:52 pm »
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If the traitor flag represents treason and sedition, then so does the US flag.

And so does "Insert Modern day Item here."

Almost everything has some negative call back to it. The CSA only represents that because, as everyone knows, the winners write history.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2015, 11:47:02 pm »
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the winners write history.

Damn thats profound.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2015, 02:21:14 am »
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If the south had won you'd get to celebrate two Independence days instead of one. That'd be pretty sweet.

The day some politicians/intellectuals decided some truths were self-evident, overrode all common law and attempted to leave a government that did not hold their best interests at heart or reflect the views of their people. Very similar scenarios in some ways. I always thought of revolution against a government as being a little more grass-roots than all that, neither of the US revolutions were really like that.

Is the South had won, they probably would have eventually turned america into two warring countries honestly.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2015, 03:31:19 am »
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Is the South had won, they probably would have eventually turned america into two warring countries honestly.

Actually, had the South won, a lot of problems with the current US government would have been solved. Because of the Civil War, a lot of Power coalesced into the hands of the federal government, and that was the worst thing.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2015, 05:11:51 am »
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And so does "Insert Modern day Item here."

Almost everything has some negative call back to it. The CSA only represents that because, as everyone knows, the winners write history.

Baloney.  Southerners have been rewriting history for 150 years.  They've been flying the flag of a defeated enemy flag over state capitals for that long. 

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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2015, 05:14:10 am »
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Is the South had won, they probably would have eventually turned america into two warring countries honestly.

That's right.  Two weak little countries that would have been prey to European powers.  The best thing Lincoln did was to preserve the Union.

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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2015, 08:23:17 am »
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If the south had won you'd get to celebrate two Independence days instead of one. That'd be pretty sweet.

That would be great, we could always use more holidays. Whens the British Independence day for when they freed themselves from the french?
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2015, 01:15:57 pm »
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Arguing symbolism is near impossible cuz it comes down to individual "feelz".
Few Americans, mainly white and somewhat educated, see the historical banner.
Some Americans, mainly white, see it as the flag of the ongoing struggle to supremacy and bringing back "the good 'ol times".
A lot of Americans, mainly black, see it as a symbol of slavery and racism.

What to do? What to do?

The freedom of one person ends where the freedom of another begins." Tear down this flag, Mr. President.

And for clarification: the display of the "Hakenkreuz"-flag is allowed in historical and educational context. Movies with historical context are allowed to show it. You're allowed to own the flag privately (educational). Hell, there is even a market for so called "Militaria" - military antiquities. I made a thread once, showing off that dagger I found and which I sold for quite a lot of money.
It is not allowed by law to use those symbols in the context of racism, anti-semitism, propaganda and/or entertainment. Well, basically out of the boundaries of educational purpose really if you consider historical movies educational to some degree.

As annoying it may be to lack those flags in a Wolfenstein game, I can live with that, no problem. Every German knows the flag, every German knows about its history, some more, some less. But you won't see it misused on the street by racists which is a good thing in my book. You'd still see it in history books...
Overall, sounds like a good compromise to me. Something which can work for the traitor flag in question too.
Don't use it for anything official any more which is silly in the first place. Use it for education. Ban private, public usage. Profit.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2015, 04:14:18 pm »
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aaaaand now they want all the statues and monuments pulled down as well  :rolleyes:


-pull down the flag
-deem anyone purchasing or supplying them racists and white supremacist supporters
-pull all traitor material from major retailer store shelves
-no longer sold at history museums or historic souvenir shops
-lobby for the removal of traitor general and soldier memorial statues

-rename country Germany
-paint all buildings gray
-whitewash history, what civil war, just a rowdy crowd
-enforce political correctness
-shine and polish white armor
-let the gays, gay overload you to death
-write black lives matter on everything because we didnt know
-purge police force, install black only law enforcement officials nationwide to make sure white on black crimes dont occur
-hire Jamal over Jordan
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2015, 12:30:34 am »
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lol
You're a douche.:lol:

...and Obamacare is the work of stalinistic socialist communists send from hell to kill ya freedom!

Oh, why do I even bother... I'm out, getting popcorn.
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2015, 12:55:28 am »
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Re: Heritage not Hate
« Reply #74 on: July 04, 2015, 03:09:59 pm »
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just for christo!

the man who owns the ORIGINAL  General Lee car from the tv shows priced at auction for 120k dollars will be removing the flag, due to criticism.  Poor General Lee, id had preferred he sold it and kept it in its original glory then destroy it.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/04/golfer-bubba-watson-criticised-for-vow-to-take-traitor-flag-off-general-lee-car