Its a mixed bag. Lords of the fallen i heard only bad things about, but surge some have said is decent. Theyre definitely trying to get on the soulslike path, but it seems like theyre still off. Flaws ive heard is very vast maps which are easy to get lost in, and that came from someone who played even the pre souls games (kings field) which have very confusing areas with repeating textures and he still had less problems there supposedly.
I also heard while lords of the fallen was trying to be similar to dark souls, The Surge was trying out a more Bloodborne playstyle, and that was a good choice over the previous game.