[Poll] Feedback on 2h stab.

[Rebelyell]

Good luck appeasing both the people who say it looks bad but is still OP, and the people who say it looks good but is underpowered

peoples have just diffrent opinions, it is really hard for you to understand?

[Rebelyell]

And some peoples say that x and y are bad. You use some wierd logick there.

[Senni__Ti]

So the item balancers' votes are the ones that count, not the rest of the community's who are the ones that are testing this everyday by playing the game?

The Community poll is undecided (if it was keep or revert dominant, action would have been taken), the balancer poll is in favour of keeping it.
So it is currently being kept.

There are atm 2 votes more in favor to keeping it so the poll is basically even. How I see this, is that the change has just made 150 or so players more or less angry/frustrated whereas I believe that the ones that voted yes arent extremely reliefed or anything (except enjoying 2h tears) since no one really asked for the animation to be changed.

What I'm saying is that the excitement from the new stab doesn't really overcome the negative feelings that it has brought to half of the voters.

Believing something doesn't make it true.
We won't know why they voted, until we ask.
For now, all we have is keep/revert and I won't alter it based on why I think they voted.

For that last part; what?
Quite a few people did, I put a poll up and the majority voted yes.

[Rando]

Just out of curiosity, was there a poll requesting to change it?

[Thumper]

redo the poll, the active community now probably wants a change and most of those votes are probably inactive anyway.

[imisshotmail]

i haven't played this game in a while but the 2h stab pre whatever this change was, was really trash compared to the other stabs in the game and every good player was in unison about that. if it's been changed to be even worse like this thread says then the current balance team has done the impressive job of being worse than CMP, really should congratulate yourselves on that.

[Dupre]

i haven't played this game in a while but the 2h stab pre whatever this change was, was really trash compared to the other stabs in the game and every good player was in unison about that. if it's been changed to be even worse like this thread says then the current balance team has done the impressive job of being worse than CMP, really should congratulate yourselves on that.

Thanks

[Rebelyell]

The logic is that out of the people who say the new stab is bad you give completely contradictory reasons as to why it's bad, totally opposite and mutually exclusive reasons. Rather gives the impression that neither argument is particularly strong, and kills any hope of Senni or anyone making you all happy with *any* changes made.

lol
you just annoy me

We have spectrum of every possible argument against and for stab
you can't say that only one side is inconsistent.
Some of arguments that we have here are really weird.
For example one of famous 2h players said new stab is op and he likes it.
I asked him why he think so and he told me that it is easier for him to see where he land his hits because he play in 1st person view.


I dont like fact that that stab almost always glance if player do not wiggle shit out of it, try to use it like it was ment to it is really hard.
on the top of that animation looks just wierd bad in some istances.

And again peoples are not happy because of many reasons, old stab was probably as much controversial or more.

Senni brought that shit on himself with that stupid poll, he could just ask for feedback and peoples would whine as much as ever but that "revert it" option give peoples fake feel of power and well...

And dont drop peveryone in to one bag that is really stupid, some players dont like that new stab but they still try to provide honest feedback.

[Kenda]

I feel like the stab itself is definitely worse now than before, the amount of situations where stabing is the right move has gone down alot. Using it is also way more difficult now than Before. I'm not sure if the change of the animation was meant as a nerf or just to mix it up, because it has become a nerf for sure. Not saying the 2h stab didn't need one, it was viable in every situation which made it quite strong because of the length, the speed and the wicked animation.

Can't say whether I like it or not, I've changed my playstyle quite a bit, gone from more stab oriented swords to a Danish simply because I am unable to efficiently stab as much. It has made the stab a bigger risk factor, it still provides range but is imo almost never the right choice because of how incredibly inreliable it is. That combined with the stab stun for 2h still being the same duration (as far as i know) makes it quite gimped.

[Gravoth_iii]

The poll is now 2 more on revert so, yeah its time.

[Porthos]

The poll is now 2 more on revert so, yeah its time.

And over time, more and more people want to revert it. I clearly remember that in the beginning of this discussion the "keep it" option was waaaaaay more popular than the "revert it". To date we all had enough time to test it and decide whether we like it or not. So, yeah, it's time

[brunoII]

As yet we have to use this shit stab? :


REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
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REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
REVERT IT!
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it is not clear? REVERT IT!!!!!!!

[brunoII]

156 people: REVERT IT!
152 people: KEEP IT!
Let's hurry to restore the old attack stab ...
which it was functional using harmonic to see ...
the new stab attack is similar to the movement of a FORKLIFT ...
 Give us back what we saw on CRPG for more than four years

 Enough of this shit please 

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[StonedSteel]

it would be interesting to see polls if they weren't anonymous. someone already mentioned this...and i agree a large % of those that say keep it...are prob pole\1h users or archers or w.e. they are people that dont care about 2h cuz they dont use it, and want to see it stay so their 1h\pole stabs always have the edge...i can see pole arms out reaching 2h stabs...but 1h? really?

could u guys possibly fuck up the game anymore? str destroyed, agi is god, 1h right swing long as fuck and wraps around peoples block, 1h stab is the longest stab in the game, using the shortest weapons...i could go on and on and on...

new 2h stab is just one more thing on a long list of fuck ups made by incompetent people.